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u 

Press the control to make the path mono (the 

MONO 

LED will light).

The 

BAL

 control will still affect the feeds sent into the Cue L & R as it did 

in stereo.

LEVEL

This controls the Cue output level and has a range of -∞ to 0dB.

u 

Press to enable.

•

The level for the Cue send is Pre the talkback injection point;

•

The on/off for the Cue is Post the talkback injection point.

When Talkback is applied to the Cues, the programme level is 

automatically dimmed by 20dB.

Master SEL mode on the CUE MIX Section

To Select the Aux Feeding the Cue

u 

Press and hold down 

LOCK

 on the Main Monitor Panel, then press 

RTE 

SEL 

to enter Master SEL mode.

The 

RTE SEL

 button will flash, along with all of the console 

SEL

 leds.

Most of the Cue strip controls will have their functionality blocked out, 

apart from those indicated in white, left.

Pressing the 

Aux 1-6 

knob will cycle the Auxes that feed into the Cue:

•

Aux 1 / 2 

•

Aux 3 / 4 

•

Aux 5

•

Aux 6

•

AUX 1 / 2 + 3 / 4 

•

AUX 5 + 6

•

AUX 1 / 2 + 5

•

AUX 1 / 2 + 6

u 

Press 

RTE SEL

 to exit SEL Mode and keep this assignment.

To Set the Utility Path Feeding into the Cue

u 

Press and hold down 

LOCK

 on the Main Monitor Panel, then press 

RTE 

SEL 

to enter Master SEL mode.

The 

RTE SEL

 button will flash, along with all of the console 

SEL

 leds.

Most of the Cue strip controls will have their functionality blocked out, 

apart from those indicated in white, left.

Pressing the 

UTIL

 control will cycle the feed into the Utility path between

•

MIX

 (main stereo mix)

•

CRM

 (whatever source is selected to the Control Room Monitors)

u 

Press 

RTE SEL

 to exit SEL Mode and keep this assignment.

- 71 -

Содержание GENESYS BLACK

Страница 1: ...User Manual Issue 1 2 Version 3 4 software Build 2 or later 527 405...

Страница 2: ...for your safety If the provided plug does not fit into your outlet consult an electrician for replacement of the obsolete outlet As this apparatus is constructed to Class I it shall be connected to a...

Страница 3: ...llen into the apparatus the apparatus has been exposed to rain or moisture does not operate normally or has been dropped WARNING TO REDUCE THE RISK OF FIRE OR ELECTRIC SHOCK DO NOT EXPOSE THIS APPARAT...

Страница 4: ...ity Operating 20 to 80 Non operating 5 to 90 Max wet bulb 28 C non condensing or 57 F non condensing Altitude Operating 0 to 2 000m Non operating 0 to 12 000m Cooling Each additional channel section h...

Страница 5: ...5...

Страница 6: ...H u DO NOT INSTALL NEAR HEAT SOURCES u DO NOT BLOCK VENTILATION OPENINGS u THE AMBIENT ROOM TEMPERATURE SHOULD BE NO GREATER THAN 22 C 72 F u PROTECT THE POWER CORDS u USE ONLY ACCESSORIES SPECIFIED B...

Страница 7: ...ET OR TECHNICAL EARTH TO THE CONSOLE MUST BE MAINTAINED IF ONLY A 2 PIN NO EARTH SUPPLY IS AVAILABLE THEN THE GENESYS CONSOLE MUST BE INSTALLED BY A QUALIFIED ELECTRICIAN TO ENSURE THAT THE CONSOLE ME...

Страница 8: ...Full talkback and reverse talkback capability Internal power supply units Expandable to 56 channels either in straight or wedge formation USB flash drive for Store Load Reset functionality Hands on D...

Страница 9: ...ve products Genesys Black offers sound and build quality beyond reproach Even the console stand was developed in conjunction with internationally renowned studio designer Roger D Arcy of Recording Arc...

Страница 10: ...e Power Up Procedure 31 Power Down Procedure 31 Master SEL mode Master SEL Mode on the Channel Strip 32 Master SEL Mode on the 8T Section 32 Master SEL Mode on the Monitor Panel 32 An Overview of the...

Страница 11: ...1 2 60 MASTER SEL Section 61 LOCK 61 MIC 61 LN 61 DAW 61 DLN LED 61 SWP 62 MIX 62 CH SAFE 62 MON SAFE 62 8T SAFE 62 I L 63 LATCH 63 RESET 63 LINK 63 DAW SND 63 DAW RET 63 I P 2 DMON LED 63 ROUTE SEL S...

Страница 12: ...8T 1 to 8T 8 LEDs 90 SIG 90 GR 90 DAW METERS 91 REV RETURN Meters 91 MIX L R 91 SIG 91 MASTER METER Section 92 DAW 92 SOLO 92 USB 92 Talkback Mic 92 VU 92 PPM 92 SET 92 PEAK 93 P HOLD 93 DAW 93 PSU ST...

Страница 13: ...D 133 WCLCK 75 Termination 134 Channel Slave 135 Overview 135 Connectors Switches 135 AES RX DLINE AES TX 135 AES RX DMON 136 Channel Slave Audio Link 136 Monitor Section 137 Overview 137 Connectors S...

Страница 14: ...PANS 187 PLI 188 FADS and BANKS 189 AUTO 189 CHAN 189 t and u Buttons 190 TRANSPORT 190 SOLO CUT 190 Remote Genesys Software Update Updating and Installing Genesys Software Automatically 191 Starting...

Страница 15: ...A Monitoring cassette SMN 812 410 221 FireWire 1 2 221 AES TX 8T AES RX DEXT 221 AES TX AUX 2T L R MIX L R AES SYNC In Out 222 Serial Connectors 222 2T Inputs 222 Optional Dynamics Cassette SMN 812 41...

Страница 16: ...feature or provide a second function Where relevant the On Off state or second function of the control is displayed by an adjacent LED Conventions used All button names rotary controls are shown in BO...

Страница 17: ...igital Line s SND Send DYN Dynamics SWP Swap DMON Digital Monitor TB Talkback EXT External s UTIL Utility FNC Function SRC Sample Rate Converter GR Gain Reduction RX TX Receive Transmit HI Z High Impe...

Страница 18: ...eyboard can be connected here if required The connection should be made whilst the console is powered off Mouse PS 2 connector The connector from the console trackpad is connected to this port The con...

Страница 19: ...ast thing that the computer does before shutting down it will continue to write files for a short while afterwards Do NOT put the computer into Standby and then remove the power This will cause the co...

Страница 20: ...set using the four encoders on the Monitor Panel The card itself has no external connectors all connections are made internally Installation Instructions Remove the power to the console Ensure the sw...

Страница 21: ...itch Settings on page 226 Remove the ventilation facing plate on the rear of the console and remove the Key Input blanking plate in the centre Slide the Dynamics cassette into the middle slot and push...

Страница 22: ...aceplate on the rear of the console shown above and remove the connector blanking plate If a new faceplate has been provided discard the one removed and use the new one Slide the digital converter boa...

Страница 23: ...tions are optional Installation Instructions Remove the mains power cord from the console Unscrew the faceplate from the chassis at points A and B above Remove the computer card from the rear of the c...

Страница 24: ...The touch screen will then show the DAW computer s display Note It is also possible to show the Genesys Computer display on this screen to do this connect the DVI or VGA with supplied adaptor output...

Страница 25: ...en click on Settings If the icon is not shown then from the Finder click Applications then Utilities and open the UPDD Gestures app u Click on Other Settings and make sure the settings are set as show...

Страница 26: ...hidden It is located at the bottom of the screen move the mouse pointer to the bottom of the screen and the taskbar should pop up u On the taskbar click the Start Menu select Control Panel Small or L...

Страница 27: ...Menu select Control Panel Small or Large icons View Network Sharing Centre Change adapter settings Local area Connection Properties Select Internet Protocol Version 4 TCP IPv4 from the list make sure...

Страница 28: ...set your DAW computer to these settings IP Address 192 168 99 183 Subnet Mask 255 255 255 0 Make sure the Default gateway DNS settings are blank If a direct connection is not made i e you are connecti...

Страница 29: ...the Windows Start Menu as shown above in the first two steps once opened do not close the window you may have to repeat this step on each reboot of your DAW computer Mac OS X DAW Computer u Close all...

Страница 30: ...ch at the top and bottom of the module Also check any connectors at the rear of the module are removed e g Mic Line u Screw the two module extraction tools into the top and bottom of the module These...

Страница 31: ...the rear of the module eg Mic Line Failure to make sure the module is seated correctly in the chassis can result in missing audio busses and incomplete functionality on a module Hot plugging u The po...

Страница 32: ...s Enter Otherwise if this message is not on screen then power cycle the console the system will boot up make sure you select Start Normally and press Enter Remove the keyboard make sure a monitor is c...

Страница 33: ...indicate you are in Master SEL Mode It will then be possible to set up Auxiliary Pre Post states selecting INS1 INS2 EQ or DYN in the CH or MON path and ordering the processing Also indication of tran...

Страница 34: ...then RTE SEL Mode provides purely a routing function and is used for sending Channel and or Monitor paths to either the 8T and or Main Mix busses Coming out of Master SEL Mode returns all audio leds...

Страница 35: ...llows you to have fader control of the recording and to use the monitor path fader to start a rough mix at the same time When Mixing with Genesys the Channel path becomes your first series of returns...

Страница 36: ...possible to route a collection of signals to any of the 8T faders which in turn can then be sent to Pro Tools This is useful when recording for example a drum kit consisting of 8 paths which need to...

Страница 37: ...Panel Metering options Channel meters set to CH I P 8T meters set to MON 2T meters set to MIX Cue Mix panel applies to both Cues Utility set to MIX AUX 1 6 set to 5 and On MASTER SEL panel CH SEL set...

Страница 38: ...path through the console when the Stereo Recording setup is loaded The Monitor level is set using the Monitor knob on the lower section of the Channel strip If you wish this control to be on the fade...

Страница 39: ...ed The next 4 Monitor Returns are not LCR enabled and will send pan in stereo to the LS RS 8T s The Route Present blocks will be shown half red half yellow to indicate it is an LCR route and yellow fo...

Страница 40: ...te is Post pan with Pan in the centre position the audio will be sent to 8T1 Left and 8T2 right equally with a 4dB drop in signal sent equally to 8Ts 1 and 2 If the Pan LED is not lit then the route w...

Страница 41: ...es as Centre 8T 8 behaves as Sub On any given path The contribution level to the two front speakers is set by the CH Fader The contribution level to the two rear speakers is set by the Monitor pot The...

Страница 42: ...figure and repeat until all the 8Ts are mapped u You will notice that the LS setups have been ticked in the LS matrix boxes to configure the route in the settings screen It is also possible to just ti...

Страница 43: ...Master SEL mode before setting the speaker mapping Monitoring u On the Monitor Panel press either A or B to select the Surround speaker set u Press 8T and INT This allows you to hear the Surround Send...

Страница 44: ...NT and the Surround Return from it EXT If you have the 8T Insert audio connections in place you will be able to compress the entire Surround mix for example using the Neve 8051 Surround Compressor by...

Страница 45: ...neath It is possible to select a different function for each Channel Strip 48v Supplies 48 volts of phantom power to the Mic input Operation of phantom power takes 20 seconds to apply or remove to pro...

Страница 46: ...will light yellow if it is set to work as a conventional L R pan or red if set to work as an LCR Pan as set in the Routing Screen If this control is not enabled the Pan control will have no effect on...

Страница 47: ...ip controls will have their functionality blocked out apart from those indicated in white left u Make any changes u Press the RTE SEL button to save your changes and exit Master SEL mode To Allocate P...

Страница 48: ...nnel or Monitor path it is assigned to u To the left is a button called Bypass ALL This will toggle bypass of all the elements in the current Channel or Monitor path u With the mouse left click and ho...

Страница 49: ...ON LED will still work as normal Master SEL mode on the AUXES Section To Set How the Channel and Monitor Paths Feed the Auxes Either the Channel or Monitor path can be set to feed the Aux either Pre o...

Страница 50: ...1st press Channel input Pre processing Pre fader Pre CUT PRE LED lit Channel input Post processing Pre fader Pre CUT PRE CH leds lit Channel input Post processing Post fader Post CUT CH LED lit Monito...

Страница 51: ...e LED will be Off when DMON is On CH Allows you to send the Channel input to the monitor input and is a 3 state toggle switch Press to listen to the Channel input Post fader LED lights red Press to li...

Страница 52: ...wn with a blue background 8T This button is used to show interrogate if any 8Ts are routed from the monitor path selecting 8T will display the monitor path routing on the 8T LEDs on the meter bridge S...

Страница 53: ...or Post To combat this the console will take steps to prevent this from happening When you toggle through the inputs of the Monitor path the DAW Send will not be available and the DAW SND LED will fla...

Страница 54: ...O is pressed below the WIDTH LED will flash when pressed to indicate it is not an available control in mono PAN BAL Works in conjunction with the MONO button to the left u Press to enable When the MON...

Страница 55: ...he Rev Return is routed to Cue 1 Red Cue 2 Green Both cues Yellow For each press of the TO CUE level control you will cycle round the following feeds the PRE LED will light when you are sending these...

Страница 56: ...of IMR hard Right PRE u Sets whether the Mix Insert is patched Pre or Post the Main Mix fader INS u Switches the Mix Insert In Out of circuit HEADPHONES Section Master Send Sets the level and source o...

Страница 57: ...hs A fast single press of SEL will enable the odd numbered 8T routing A fast double press of SEL will enable the even numbered 8T routing SEL and the adjacent PRE button pressed together will enable t...

Страница 58: ...hanges will be saved After exiting Master SEL Mode pressing the level control will turn the contribution to that Aux On Off Aux 5 Aux 6 For Auxes 5 and 6 the only settable control in Master SEL Mode i...

Страница 59: ...r pink noise to CH 8T 2T MIX and or LS u On the 1st press the CAL LED will light Instead of the tone level being set by the knob it is now set via the Trim Pot on the left of the CAL LED The trim pot...

Страница 60: ...off in order to calibrate each loudspeaker individually Deselecting LS will then uncut ALL Loudspeakers to return to normal monitoring OSC FRQ Sets the frequency of the TONE oscillator The stepped val...

Страница 61: ...e displayed 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 8T 8T 1 8T 2 8T 3 8T 4 8T 5 8T 6 8T 7 8T 8 EXT CRM 1 L 2 R 3 C 4 S 5 LS 6 RS AUXES 4 Mono 2 Stereo A 1 A 2 A 3 A 4 A5 L A5 R A6 L A6 R 2T MTRS Lights yellow and selects the...

Страница 62: ...ge the audio feed to the Channel path by switching all the modules to Line input and this will be displayed by a green LED on each module NB LN is automatically switched off if MIX is selected and not...

Страница 63: ...e LS monitor path if a Channel SOLO is selected It will also allow SIF and PFL in the Monitor Section to be selected It will also turn SOLO LINK off if selected If CH SAFE is not selected then the Sol...

Страница 64: ...f the Monitor or Channel Cuts within the two systems apart obviously for the Cut selected on that Channel or Monitor LINK can only be selected when CH SAFE or MON SAFE are off and will be cancelled if...

Страница 65: ...itor a second input to allow for DAW returns to be brought into the console on the channel path and monitor path separately so doubling the mix input capability of the console I P 2 DMON does exactly...

Страница 66: ...screen over to the Snapshot Recall Stores page where a file can be selected Once a selection has been made on screen then pressing the button again will load that particular Store to the console via...

Страница 67: ...Mix L and Mix R in the channel module CH and MON are interlocked t u keys When pressed they are used to scroll up down the Channels 8Ts and Revs so you are able to route them to the 8T and Mix Outputs...

Страница 68: ...rarily route Channel and DAW Monitor inputs to the Main Mix buss via the console surface u Press and hold the SEL button on the desired channel u With the SEL button held press the DAW level knob The...

Страница 69: ...the dedicated routing buttons on the Monitor Panel and console software via the RTE function as detailed in this manual 69...

Страница 70: ...2 to R When Aux 3 4 is selected this will feed 3 to L 4 to R When Aux 5 is selected this will feed to L R When Aux 6 is selected this will feed to L R When AUX 1 2 and 3 4 are selected this will feed...

Страница 71: ...console SEL leds Most of the Cue strip controls will have their functionality blocked out apart from those indicated in white left Pressing the Aux 1 6 knob will cycle the Auxes that feed into the Cu...

Страница 72: ...s 8T u Lights yellow when selected and sends the 8T mix to the loudspeakers The setup to determine which 8T goes to which loudspeaker is done by either putting the Monitor Panel into Master SEL Mode o...

Страница 73: ...press takes the 2nd set of External feeds from the Digital Inputs if these are present EXT 2 and the D EXT LED will light The D EXT LED will only light if an AD DA cassette has been detected If there...

Страница 74: ...will also light if the 8T SOLO is made safe via the Settings screen or if any of the AFL buttons on the Rev Returns are selected Indicates that the AFL is the solo source fed to the monitor loudspeake...

Страница 75: ...he front speakers for better balancing A B M1 M2 Lights yellow when pressed and selects sets of loudspeakers A and B are both Surround sets of speakers M1 and M2 are both Stereo sets of speakers The M...

Страница 76: ...nitoring level knob see below The DIM will also be forced onto the monitoring whenever the console Talkback Producers Talkback or Slate are in use or remote dim is applied The DIM LED will flash in re...

Страница 77: ...Monitor Level u Press the knob again to set the PFL level the PFL LED will light The PFL level will be shown on the alpha display and has a range of 0dB to 36dB In Safe mode whenever a PFL is pressed...

Страница 78: ...ttons display screen and audio will revert to their last selection To Tie a Set of Speakers to the Stereo DownMix It is possible to tie a set of loudspeakers to monitoring the Stereo DownMix so that s...

Страница 79: ...ng knob to set this value u Either select another loudspeaker or exit Master SEL Mode to lock these Trims in place To Lock the S and LS RS to Sets of Loudspeakers It is possible to lock both the Left...

Страница 80: ...ed via the Loudspeaker CUT buttons u When you have selected the 8T you wish to configure select the loudspeaker you wish to send this path to using the individual LS CUT buttons The speaker button wil...

Страница 81: ...e back of the console on a 15 pin D type connector These relays the 5V CTL also allow the remote operation of the Loudspeaker CUTS DIM TALKBACK to CUE 1 CUE 2 RED LIGHT RTB ON and SLATE CUE 1 CUE 2 Ea...

Страница 82: ...e yellow LED underneath will light and Talkback will be sent to TB Output This will also dim the monitoring by an amount set by TB DIM and light the DIM button If RTB is on M2 then applying TB will te...

Страница 83: ...tem Talkback Latch Located in the Settings screen Interlocked with Auto TB If ticked will turn CUE1 and CUE 2 from momentary to latching even if Play is being cycled on the DAW NB Remote operation of...

Страница 84: ...EQ on page 99 DYN Please see section on DYN on page 102 2T The screen on the left shows the page that will open when working in Group mode u It is possible to turn each 2T On and Off via this page by...

Страница 85: ...e section have the following function in 5 1 Mode Encoder Push switch function Rotary function 1 On Off contribution to C 10dB Trim 2 On Off contribution to S 10dB Trim 3 On Off contribution to LS RS...

Страница 86: ...and turns that communication On or Off The DAW LED will light under the 8T faders when control is established and a DAW control screen will open The screen that opens once you go into DAW mode all de...

Страница 87: ...lay The four character alpha display above each fader is used to display The DAW automation modes DAW track information User path names The alpha display glows brightly when the associated fader is to...

Страница 88: ...fader levels or a block of 8 DAW faders the red LED underneath the faders will light when DAW control has been enabled The main output fader always controls the Main Mix Output There is no gain boost...

Страница 89: ...trols the stereo main mix with a range of to 0dB The CUT button acts on both the L R of the Main Mix TRANSPORT Keys REWIND FAST FORWARD STOP PLAY and RECORD buttons control the DAW Each button lights...

Страница 90: ...r a letter a pressing it twice rapidly will enter b and so on 0 acts as a space in Text mode The brown coloured keys provide additional control functionality The is the Start key found on a Microsoft...

Страница 91: ...hich of the 8T busses the Channel Input is routed to u When the routing is interrogated by pressing the 8T button at the bottom of the channel strip these LEDs will indicate which of the 8T busses the...

Страница 92: ...g meter data from the DAW and this level can vary between different DAWs There is no legend on the meter because of this the meters are mainly for indication REV RETURN Meters Each of the Rev Return m...

Страница 93: ...e for optimum acoustic isolation The Metering Options buttons apply their functions globally across all metering on the console VU Sets all meter information to display in VU and uses the scale to the...

Страница 94: ...console metering PSU STATUS Indicates the state of the internal console power supplies If all power supplies to all sections of the console are healthy then all leds will be OFF The 1 2 3 4 leds refe...

Страница 95: ...ted on the console once you Exit Common to all the screens is a large timecode display in the top right This displays HUI timecode sent from the DAW via the Ethernet cable To access the various option...

Страница 96: ...ange colour from black to dark blue Once hi pass is active press and hold then turn Encoder 1 to change the hi pass frequency u To return to controlling the LO frequency hold Encoder 1 and press F2 to...

Страница 97: ...uencies on off state onto the EQ clipboard so it can be pasted to EQs on other paths F3 Paste Copies the contents of the clipboard to the currently selected EQ F4 Setup Links Puts the desk in Link Set...

Страница 98: ...n screen the currently displayed channel will also show which EQs it is linked to by displaying those channels in a drop down list to the right of the screen u Once interrogated release the F5 button...

Страница 99: ...y pushing and turning the encoders As you do this a LED will light on screen to indicate your selection From left to right these are 1st Encoder Lo Shelf OFF 35 Hz 60 Hz 110 Hz 220 Hz 2nd Encoder Mid...

Страница 100: ...or click Setup Links on screen u Press the channel SEL button on the channel that you wish to be the first EQ in the link the SEL button will flash to indicate this u Press other SEL buttons to add th...

Страница 101: ...settings to be copied from one channel to another but without creating a subsequent link between all controls This is typically used for copying EQs from the left side of a stereo path to the right u...

Страница 102: ...l SEL button LED will light solid on that channel to show that those Dynamics are being controlled by the encoders If the Dynamics are linked to any other Dynamics then the SEL buttons on those linked...

Страница 103: ...e press or Global Link two presses mode Local Link Mode In Local Link mode the compressors within an 8 fader section can linked together to form any size links in any combination so that all the link...

Страница 104: ...se buttons and functions on page 100 When linking Dynamics together in this way all controls are linked apart from the Global Local Link buttons These will still operate independently of any links and...

Страница 105: ...means the signal is being taken from an external trigger u The 3rd encoder sets the Release time and operates within a range of 0 1 second to 4 seconds u By pressing this encoder you can set the Atta...

Страница 106: ...NB With regard to linking the Dynamics it is irrelevant whether the Dynamics are operating on the channel input or DAW input sections 106...

Страница 107: ...5 7 Left 2T Mix 8T 2 4 6 8 Right 2T Mix 5 1 mode There are individual On Off controls and 10dB of Trim for each of the C S and LS RS contributions to the 2T Output plus a global On Off and level contr...

Страница 108: ...DAW Setup and control for the Digital Audio Workstation DAW Please see chapter on Digital Audio Workstation DAW Control on page 169 for full operational instructions 108...

Страница 109: ...ker and the 8T to make or break the route A P will be placed on screen at the appropriate junction on screen when a route has been created Sub To DownMix The Down mix is when a Surround Mix is collaps...

Страница 110: ...t If unticked the 8Ts are safe from the Solo system Monitor to 8T If ticked the Monitor Solos are linked to the 8T Solos so that pressing any Monitor SOLO will also cut the 8Ts and all the 8T CUT leds...

Страница 111: ...be select as an input Instead when you toggle round the options by pressing the Trim pot the DAW LED will flash once to show it cannot be selected and the input will be set to the next available selec...

Страница 112: ...2T busses Setups Set by Store This allows the settings for LS Settings 8T Solo Linking Osc and Tie Ch SEL to be reset if a store is loaded with different data from Power Up or if new stores are loaded...

Страница 113: ...here is now 1 5dB of calibration available for each path in 0 05dB steps u Use the arrows to set a value for each path u If you wish to reset any trim value to zero right click on the appropriate blue...

Страница 114: ...all settings controls and states including audio routing This option sets the interval at which that snapshot is taken selectable in 5 minute intervals from 5 minutes to 1 hour If you have the As Was...

Страница 115: ...Client heading double click a Client and a list of Projects within that Client will be displayed in the next column u Double click the Project and a list of Titles in that Project will be displayed in...

Страница 116: ...es between locations use the NETWORK and USB buttons to set the upper window to the desired location u In the lower window navigate to the desired file location u Drag and drop the relevant file betwe...

Страница 117: ...ps installed the following may apply u If you wish to route all of the Channel Inputs or DAW Returns to the Main Mix buss click the CH MIX or MON MIX button and all of those routes will be put in plac...

Страница 118: ...n the desk allowing the user to match it manually Once a control has been reset the next control in that strip will be displayed and so on until all controls have been reset The software can either di...

Страница 119: ...4 Channel fader and CUT button When applying a Recall file to the console sections 1 2 and 3 are displayed as three distinct sections see below 8T Rev Returns This is nominally split into 1 Everythin...

Страница 120: ...asked if you wish to load the selected Snapshot u Click Yes or Cancel The controls that do not need setting manually will automatically be set on the console Aux on off Aux pre post etc If the console...

Страница 121: ...ll be set to All until another selection is made u Turn each control on the desk until it matches the purple mark Once a control has been set the next control down on that particular channel strip wil...

Страница 122: ...esirable to only reset certain controls on specific channel strips and in this instance Hold mode is used This is turned on and off by pressing the HOLD button underneath the large control graphic or...

Страница 123: ...r This Session box u Click OK to close If you wish to open Recall without saving or loading a file then click the RECALL button at the bottom of the main Genesys screen The Recall screen will open wit...

Страница 124: ...ns like changing the order of processing or changing the audio routing may not be available If there has been a change in the number of panels detected when the console and the computer first boots up...

Страница 125: ...orting problems then all the channels in that block will not be updated Please be aware the update programs all 8 or none During the update if there is a failure then the software will report this bac...

Страница 126: ...any reason it may be possible for the update procedure to stall thereafter certain modules may remain in programming boot mode For example on a channel strip this will be indicated by the three leds a...

Страница 127: ...ts back which panel s are up to date or need updating It compares the current build of software loaded with that on the console computer Revision Notes Panel Display u Click to show a rolling history...

Страница 128: ...EQ and DYN parameters etc If you click No then you will be returned to the Windows Desktop and any settings that have changed since the last automatic snapshot was taken will be lost The Windows Task...

Страница 129: ...sole Debug Window For AMS Neve use only DAW Debug Window For AMS Neve use only Vista Support This should always be ticked with a Genesys Black IMPORTANT Do NOT change this option under any circumstanc...

Страница 130: ...are can be synced to either AES Sync Embedded AES Sync Wordclock or set to sync to own internal clock Sample rates supported are 44 1 48 88 2 96kHz Sample rate converters can be enabled on all AES Rec...

Страница 131: ...or FireWire 9 Set Configuration screen to match audio cabling page 152 Parts list Cables accessories included length 3x Channel Audio RJ45 Link cables per set of Master Slave cards 50cm each 1x RS485...

Страница 132: ...channels basis DLINE 1 2 3 4 etc 2 x FireWire sockets for daisy chaining purposes Sync Wordclock In and Wordclock Out both on BNC connectors AES Sync In and AES Sync Out on a 25 way D sub connector AE...

Страница 133: ...LINE 3 4 11 10 23 3 AES RX 3 DLINE 5 6 22 21 9 4 AES RX 4 DLINE 7 8 8 7 20 5 AES TX 1 Direct Output 1 2 19 18 6 6 AES TX 2 Direct Output 3 4 5 4 17 7 AES TX 3 Direct Output 5 6 16 15 3 8 AES TX 4 Dire...

Страница 134: ...gnal will also be output on the Wordclock Out BNC It is useful for when the console is running as the sync master set to work with Internal sync and other pieces of equipment need to sync to the conso...

Страница 135: ...to have its position within the console set The Monitor Section card does not require ID switches to be set Please contact AMS Neve support if you need extra information Once you have set these ID sw...

Страница 136: ...lled the Channel Slave Audio Link Connectors Switches The AD DA Slave cards only have two 25 way D type connectors and three serial ports and therefore do not have Wordclock In Out BNC connectors Fire...

Страница 137: ...2 DMON 3 4 11 10 23 3 AES RX 3 DMON 5 6 22 21 9 4 AES RX 4 DMON 7 8 8 7 20 5 6 7 8 Channel Slave Audio Link These should only ever be connected to the corresponding port of the same name on the associ...

Страница 138: ...FireWire ports for daisy chaining purposes Wordclock In Out BNC connectors If this card is set to be the sync master it can take its sync from either Wordclock In AES Sync In The DEXT L R input as emb...

Страница 139: ...4 17 7 8T 5 6 Output 16 15 3 8 8T 7 8 Output 2 1 14 AES TX AUX 2T L R MIX L R AES SYNC IN OUT This connector digitally outputs the Auxes 2T Mix and Main mix plus providing AES Sync In and Out connecti...

Страница 140: ...osition Serial Enables the communications to be daisy chained and must be set to the up position Reset For AMS Neve use only In normal operation this switch should be in the down position WCK 75 Set t...

Страница 141: ...oing this Always follow the on screen instructions u Click Auto Install in the pop up window u Another window will appear Follow the on screen instructions to Auto Install USB driver As the installati...

Страница 142: ...tains installation instructions and further information on the driver on the supplied CD or available as a download from here http www ams neve info genesys manuals Drivers_Installation_Guide_for_Wind...

Страница 143: ...in The most left hand Master or Monitor card in the console should have both sets of jumpers over pins 1 2 The most right hand Master or Monitor card in the console should have both sets of jumpers o...

Страница 144: ...half of the plate removing the two screws labelled B above u Insert the AD DA card into the lowest slot in the available space in the console with the components facing down ensuring that the card s r...

Страница 145: ...puter cassette you have removed should be returned to AMS Neve Technical Services The AD DA card should be fitted as follows u Remove the computer from the console as detailed above and remove the bla...

Страница 146: ...m the Genesys computer into the Master card under channels 1 8 Wordclock Sync The Wordclock Sync can only be accepted by the left hand most Master card or the Monitor card if this is left most using t...

Страница 147: ...ethod by on the Monitor card the AES sync is derived from the DEXT L R input signal FireWire There are a pair of FireWire ports on each Master card and Monitor card labelled A and B The DAW computer s...

Страница 148: ...ys product support page and select the appropriate driver for your DAW computer Installing the DAW FireWire driver on a PC Drag the Neve FireWire Installer file from the CD onto the Windows Desktop of...

Страница 149: ...he internet a web page may open taking you to the Dice Windows Driver Release Notes page for further information on the driver u Close the browser window u Click Continue Anyway u Click Yes Restart Th...

Страница 150: ...5 2 8028 pkg u Click Continue u Click Continue u Click Install Depending on how your Mac is configured at this point the Installer may ask you for a password before it can continue the install If so e...

Страница 151: ...ter card needs to have its dip switches set to unique settings Please turn to page 134 to see how to set the dip switch addressing In the console this Master card s associated Slave card must be in th...

Страница 152: ...A mix of AES and analogue signal to FireWire or FireWire to a mixture of AES and analogue signals FireWire to AES or AES to FireWire FireWire detected The above screen reflects a system where the Fire...

Страница 153: ...hen the sample frequency is defined by the DAW and this option will be greyed out and unavailable Sync Source This selects where Genesys takes its timing source from Internal Genesys will use its Inte...

Страница 154: ...l be automatically converted up to 48kHz The DMON channel digital monitoring input and DLINE channel digital line input input options displayed left will change depending on which 8 fader section is s...

Страница 155: ...ght to confirm this selection plus the DLN LED will light on each channel strip that has an AD DA card fitted Channels DMON Input This selects the audio to be sent on the digital monitor path u There...

Страница 156: ...e top of the screen to show the Monitor card input and output options To DAW via FireWire u Select whether you want the 8Ts Auxes AES DEXT or MIX 2T audio to be sent digitally from the console to your...

Страница 157: ...it all of the time and require no user intervention 8Ts 1 8 sent in pairs AUX 1 2 sent as a pair 3 4 sent as a pair 5 L R 6 L R 2T L R sent as a pair MIX L R sent as a pair This screen is for informat...

Страница 158: ...tal External Left Surround Digital External Right Surround Digital External Centre Surround Digital External Sub Surround Digital External Left Surround Surround Digital External Right Surround NExtIp...

Страница 159: ...Panel System and in the Device Manager find the FireWire device IEEE 1394 u Right click it and select Update Driver Software u Select Browse my computer for driver software u Select Let me pick from a...

Страница 160: ...h the Windows Compliant FireWire driver and now need to update your FireWire driver please follow these steps u With your interface disconnected find your FireWire IEEE 1394 controller in Device Manag...

Страница 161: ...essCards All FireWire path counts quoted in this document have been achieved using this chipset How do I find out which Chipset my Mac or PC has been fitted with PC In Control Panel Device Manager sel...

Страница 162: ...unit always powers up with all settings levels and states as they were at power down An optional Digital module provides a FireWire AES interface with four channels of A D and D A conversion to eithe...

Страница 163: ...unlit for LINE u Swaps the incoming phase of the Mic or Line signal u INS This selects the source for the A D in the FireWire expansion module if fitted When illuminated allows an external Insert Pre...

Страница 164: ...indow u Another window will appear Follow the on screen instructions to Auto Install USB driver As the installation process begins a progress bar will appear left If an error message appears stating t...

Страница 165: ...hannels 2 racks at one time The Gain can be set by clicking the gain control by hovering over the gain control until a hand cursor appears and clicking and holding down the left mouse button Drag upwa...

Страница 166: ...ntrol by clicking the tick box u Return to the 4081 screen On the Genesys channel strip push Channel encoder at the top red ensuring that FNC is selected LED will light green With the Channel strip yo...

Страница 167: ...parameter via software or channel strip the gain value will be displayed momentarily on the LCD display but will revert back to the assigned channel Clicking AUTO SEL i e Auto Select in 4081 software...

Страница 168: ...the DAW Control settings apply to both The first 4081 unit needs to have the USB RS485 switch on the rear of the unit set to USB plus a USB cable from the unit to the PC Mac Subsequent units in the da...

Страница 169: ...ding the one set for Midi Timecode The 8 block of faders can only be linked to a single MIDI Port and not repeated u Once set click OK Follow the on screen instructions to re launch the software to ap...

Страница 170: ...m part of the Genesys Recall or snapshot files However the underlying levels of the Genesys audio input faders will be stored recalled even though they might not have been available for control when t...

Страница 171: ...he 5 o clock position for each track u Turn the encoders to change the pan position As a Pro Tools track can also be stereo you can swap the Pan encoder into PANR mode This will give you a separate pa...

Страница 172: ...rently under control will be displayed on screen AUTO AUTO allows the Automation Modes to be changed on any of the DAW tracks by using the fader SEL buttons u Press the AUTO button u Now press the fad...

Страница 173: ...Genesys control the transport in the DAW There are four buttons REWIND FAST FORWARD STOP PLAY and RECORD Each button lights to confirm the function has been selected SOLO CUT Pressing the SOLO CUT but...

Страница 174: ...eated The DAW control is limited to controlling a maximum of 48 Logic tracks or 6 MIDI Ports this does not include the MIDI Port used for MTC u Once set click OK Follow the on screen instructions to r...

Страница 175: ...nsole If Logic has been configured incorrectly or there is no DAW communication the message Waiting for DAW Port x will be displayed on each panel when you press the DAW button where x is the number o...

Страница 176: ...encoder at the top of the Genesys channel strips acts as a Ch V Pot Channel Virtual Pot control push button control It works in exactly the same way as the DAW encoders on the Monitor Panel and its a...

Страница 177: ...ches the DAW track information text shown in yellow on the Genesys screen between parameter values and parameter names This can be used to quickly interrogate which parameters are being changed When p...

Страница 178: ...arameter u Press the Ch V Pot like you would do to a push button and the Destination will be set Confirm this by looking at Logic Pro for track 1 send slot 1 u In a similar way you can change the Dest...

Страница 179: ...You will see the top right corner display indicator change to 01 if not already to indicate you have selected track 1 The fader SEL button will also flash u F1 F2 or the fader SEL buttons are used to...

Страница 180: ...ter position will change This will be shown on the Genesys software as you change the parameter u Pressing the Ch V Pot will set the Pan Surround position to centre u Press F5 and FLIP should now be o...

Страница 181: ...line on the Genesys software Plug ins Inserts Mixer View Mixer View allows view and edit the plug ins associated with a particular Insert slot for all DAW tracks laid out across the Genesys console s...

Страница 182: ...t press the Ch V Pot after selecting a plug in to set it regardless of the FLIP mode any changes you have made will be lost when you change another parameter or plug in slot So always remember to pres...

Страница 183: ...able mode in your DAW for that track Turn off CHAN when not in use as the fader SEL buttons are used to control these functions and you may inadvertently change something t and u Buttons They are used...

Страница 184: ...MIDI Port and not repeated The DAW control is limited to controlling a maximum of 48 Nuendo Cubase tracks or 6 MIDI Ports this does not include the MIDI Port used for MTC u Once set click OK Follow t...

Страница 185: ...nel when you press the DAW button where x is the number of MIDI Port assigned to that panel Due to the limitation of the 4 character display on the faders the DAW track names will be truncated when di...

Страница 186: ...large red encoder at the top of the Genesys channel strips acts as a Ch V Pot Channel Virtual Pot control push button control It works in exactly the same way as the DAW encoders on the Monitor Panel...

Страница 187: ...are The Name Value button switches the DAW track information text shown in yellow on the Genesys screen between parameter values and parameter names This can be used to quickly interrogate which param...

Страница 188: ...ts 9 16 control send activate on off for sends 1 8 respectively on the selected track Ch V Pots 17 24 control pre post fader mode for sends 1 8 respectively on the selected track Ch V Pots 25 32 contr...

Страница 189: ...fader SEL buttons to select the DAW tracks u F3 and F4 buttons are used to select the plug ins parameter pages The number of parameter pages depends on the number of controls on a plug in and the size...

Страница 190: ...changed on any of the DAW tracks by using the fader SEL buttons u Press the AUTO button u Now press the fader SEL button on the console to change the automation mode u Pressing the fader SEL button r...

Страница 191: ...AW There are four buttons REWIND FAST FORWARD STOP PLAY and RECORD Press and hold the REWIND and FAST FORWARD buttons to control their function Each button lights to confirm the function has been sele...

Страница 192: ...evious IP address settings in order to continue using the DAW control that is if you connect via a direct cross over cable to do DAW control Please refer to the Genesys Computer Settings for DAW Contr...

Страница 193: ...of the download Once complete the window left will appear Note The Genesys software will close in order for the new update to install u Click Yes to proceed with the installation process Genesys softw...

Страница 194: ...re To ensure that the console Firmware is up to date once the new software is installed from the Genesys software screen u Click System then click Update Firmware u IMPORTANT Now follow the instructio...

Страница 195: ...files once recovery is started Important Requirements before Disk Recovery u POWER OFF the console u Ensure you have the Genesys Disk Recovery USB stick to hand this can be located in the supplied pac...

Страница 196: ...ed Chipset Features Integrated Peripherals Power Management Setup PnP PCI Configurations PC Health Status Miscellaneous Control Load optimized Defaults Load Standard Defaults Set Supervisor Password S...

Страница 197: ...Standard Defaults u In this menu you need to find the USB section highlighted above and ensure that all USB options are ENABLED u If all the USB options are ENABLED press the ESC Escape key twice to...

Страница 198: ...Saving Esc Quit Select Item F10 Save Exit Setup Time Date Hard Disk Type u Use the Arrow keys to scroll down to Advanced BIOS Features highlighted above and Press ENTER u Using the arrow keys on your...

Страница 199: ...left u Open the first of these drives by clicking the drive icon then clicking the yellow folder and a drop down list of files will become available u The file you should select is GenesysRecoveryImag...

Страница 200: ...creen will now appear It will give an estimated indication for the recovery time of the system You should allow approximately 30 60 minutes for the recovery process to complete u The Estimated Time Re...

Страница 201: ...ix There is also a jack socket for the Return Talkback mic the adjacent trim pot providing 0dB to 40dB of trim Monitor Board 3 M1 L S The 15 way D type female socket fitted to Monitor Board 3 on the e...

Страница 202: ...een 13 Spare I O 14 Current limited 100 mA 4 7v source 15 Ground digital All inputs are pulled up to 5volts via a 3k9 resistor and have clamp diodes to protect internal circuitry Spare I O Pin 13 is a...

Страница 203: ...such as parallel compression Monitor Board 1 Mix Output This board has 2 male XLRs for the Main Mix outputs It also contains 2 TRS jack sockets that carry the Left Right Outputs of the 2T mix At the...

Страница 204: ...Rev Returns 3 2 1 These three boards are the same as Rev 4 above but only contain the Left and Right input for the relevant Rev Return 204...

Страница 205: ...Hz to 22kHz filter Mix Mode DAW Return Input to Mix Output Headroom 27dBu 1kHz 0 5 THD N Frequency Response Typically 0 1dB 20Hz to 20kHz Distortion THD N Typically 0 001 1kHz measured at 20dBu 10Hz t...

Страница 206: ...Response Typically 0 15dB 20Hz to 20kHz Distortion THD N Typically 0 002 1kHz measured at 20dBu 10Hz to 80kHz filter Noise 85dBu 20Hz to 22kHz filter Crosstalk Inter channel crosstalk 100dBu 1kHz Mix...

Страница 207: ...n 1 5 3 0 Amps RMS Switch on surge 10 amps for 7ms average Connector Types Console AC Mains fused 6 3 amps IEC males Console AC Mains distribution input fused 10amps IEC male Nearfield loudspeaker Mai...

Страница 208: ...n 4 GND Black Mouse 1 Data 2 N C 3 GND 4 5v 5 Data Clock 6 N C Shell Shield Keyboard 1 Keyboard data 5v signal level 2 Keyboard reset not used 3 Ground 0v 4 5v 5 Keyboard clock 5v signal 6 N C Shell S...

Страница 209: ...link 2 13 TMDS data 3 Digital blue link 2 14 5V Power for monitor when in standby 15 Ground Return for pin 14 and analogue sync 16 Hot plug detect 17 TMDS data 0 Digital blue link 1 18 TMDS data 0 Di...

Страница 210: ...1 Input Sub 7 20 8 5 External 1 Input Left Surround 18 6 19 6 External 1 Input Right Surround 4 17 5 7 External 3 Input Left 15 3 16 8 External 3 Input Right 1 14 2 Monitor External Inputs 2 4 25 way...

Страница 211: ...Surround Output 4 17 5 7 Loudspeaker M1 Left Output 15 3 16 8 Loudspeaker M1 Right Output 1 14 2 Loudspeaker Outputs B M2 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 Loudspeaker B Left Output 24 12...

Страница 212: ...15 3 16 8 Mix Right Output 1 14 2 Mix Left and Right are wired here in addition to the XLR outputs so that the Mix can be easily presented on a customer jackfield Monitor Insert Return 25 way D type S...

Страница 213: ...ut 6 4 17 5 7 8T Output 7 15 3 16 8 8T Output 8 1 14 2 Console Outputs Auxiliaries 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 Auxiliary Output 1 24 12 25 2 Auxiliary Output 2 10 23 11 3 Auxiliary Ou...

Страница 214: ...d 18 6 19 6 8T 6 Insert Send 4 17 5 7 8T 7 Insert Send 15 3 16 8 8T 8 Insert Send 1 14 2 8T Insert Return 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 8T 1 Insert Return 24 12 25 2 8T 2 Insert Return...

Страница 215: ...nd 2 10 23 11 3 I P 2 Tape Monitor Send 3 21 9 22 4 I P 2 Tape Monitor Send 4 7 20 8 5 I P 2 Tape Monitor Send 5 18 6 19 6 I P 2 Tape Monitor Send 6 4 17 5 7 I P 2 Tape Monitor Send 7 15 3 16 8 I P 2...

Страница 216: ...d 4 7 20 8 5 DAW Send 5 18 6 19 6 DAW Send 6 4 17 5 7 DAW Send 7 15 3 16 8 DAW Send 8 1 14 2 DAW Return Return from the DAW for returning signals to the console for mixing 25 way D type Signal Name Pi...

Страница 217: ...nsert 2 Send 6 4 17 5 7 Channel Insert 2 Send 7 15 3 16 8 Channel Insert 2 Send 8 1 14 2 Channel Insert 2 Return 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 Channel Insert 2 Return 1 24 12 25 2 Chann...

Страница 218: ...nsert 1 Send 6 4 17 5 7 Channel Insert 1 Send 7 15 3 16 8 Channel Insert 1 Send 8 1 14 2 Channel Insert 1 Return 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 Channel Insert 1 Return 1 24 12 25 2 Chann...

Страница 219: ...DLINE 7 8 8 7 20 5 AES TX 1 DAW 1 2 19 18 6 6 AES TX 2 DAW 3 4 5 4 17 7 AES TX 3 DAW 5 6 16 15 3 8 AES TX 4 DAW 7 8 2 1 14 AES RX DMON AES SYNC In Out 25 way D type Connector number Signal name Pin S...

Страница 220: ...ave card using standard off the shelf CAT5 cables Serial 1 goes to Serial 1 and so on Serial IN OUT RJ45 Used for daisy chaining communications between all the AD DA cards in the console FireWire 1 2...

Страница 221: ...AES TX 2 DAW 3 4 5 4 17 7 AES TX 3 DAW 5 6 16 15 3 8 AES TX 4 DAW 7 8 2 1 14 AES RX DMON 25 way D type Connector number Signal name Pin Shield Hi Low 1 AES RX 1 DMON 1 2 25 24 12 2 AES RX 2 DMON 3 4...

Страница 222: ...VP 2 Power Ground VG 3 TPB 0 4 TPB 0 5 TPA 0 6 TPA 0 7 Shield 1 8 Shield 2 AES TX 8T AES RX DEXT 25 way D type Connector number Signal name Pin Shield Hi Low 1 5 1 External L R input 25 24 12 2 5 1 E...

Страница 223: ...9 4 Aux 6 L R Output 8 7 20 5 Main Mix L R Output 19 18 6 6 2T L R Output 5 4 17 7 AES Sync OUT 16 15 3 8 AES Sync IN 2 1 14 These are AES Sync connections only and do not transmit or receive audio Se...

Страница 224: ...412 Key Input 25 way D type Signal Name Pin Hi Lo Scrn 1 Key Input 1 24 12 25 2 Key Input 2 10 23 11 3 Key Input 3 21 9 22 4 Key Input 4 7 20 8 5 Key Input 5 18 6 19 6 Key Input 6 4 17 5 7 Key Input...

Страница 225: ...0v x 2 Distribution fuse T10A H250v DC Fuses 16V T10A 250v 5V Meters T5A 250v 5V Channels T12 5A 250v 5V Monitor T12 5A 250v 48V T2A 250v Please note that the AC Distribution block shown on the left c...

Страница 226: ...7 8 1 8 Off Off Off ON for 32 bit systems or OFF for 8 bit systems If in doubt please consult AMS Neve All Off 9 16 ON Off Off 17 24 Off ON Off 25 32 ON ON Off 33 40 Off Off ON 41 48 ON Off ON 49 56...

Страница 227: ...ES Transmitters 155 AES TX 132 135 218 220 222 AES TX 8T 138 221 AES TX AUX 138 AFL 16 53 63 73 76 110 AFL PFL 62 73 Alpha display 86 88 Arrow buttons 66 171 182 190 As Was 110 127 As Was Snapshot 113...

Страница 228: ...DAW via FireWire 154 155 DMON led 67 DMON LED 51 Down Mix To 109 DownMix 73 201 DVI 1 17 DYN 16 32 46 51 83 85 101 225 Dynamics 143 Dynamics Cassette 20 29 E Embedded AES Sync 129 END 88 EQ 20 32 46...

Страница 229: ...mode 15 32 41 42 46 48 51 54 57 67 70 74 77 78 79 Master SEL Mode 94 MASTER SEL Section 61 Meter bridge 90 Mic 34 MIC 36 45 61 Mid Band 98 MIDI 17 MIDI Port Assignments 112 Midi ports 173 Midi Timeco...

Страница 230: ...rvices 85 112 168 173 183 SET 92 Set by Store 111 Settings 36 58 81 108 127 151 168 173 183 Settings Screen 32 Setup Links 99 Setups 111 Show Links 99 Shutdown 18 Sidechain Input 104 SIF 16 62 73 76 1...

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