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Manual 

TdC 8001 

 

 

 

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4.3.2.4 

Edit Run, Memory and Intermediate Times 

In order to enter the edit menu for run, memory and intermediate times, press both <MENU> and <IN-

PUT> (of finish keypad 8). 

  Press both <MENU> and <INPUT>. 

  The following shows on the info display (7): 

 

Input times: 

       RUN TIME<

  F1 

change the run time 

 

MEMORY TIME 

F2

 

change the memory time 

 

INTERMEDIATE TIME

  F3  change intermediate time 

Continue: ENTER 

 

  Select desired time with F1, F2, F3 or 

 and 

  Execute the changes as described in the following three chapters. 

  Press both <MENU> and <INPUT> to leave the menu. 

4.3.2.4.1 

Change Run Time 

You can edit the following: 

  Overwriting the run time with finish keypad (12) 

  Copy run time to another start number 

  Disqualify a competitor 

Change run times: 

  Press both <MENU> and <INPUT> 

  Press <F1> and then <ENTER> 

  The info display show the current run time of the start number shown on finish display (6): 

 

Input:  0015  RT  00:01:35.139 

NEW No

  F1  e. g. start number 15 

 

   

 

DISQU. 

F2 

 

  The cursor blinks at the last digit of the start number. 

  For editing another start number input it directly or select with 

 and 

  When the correct start number shows, press <ENTER> (finish keypad 8). 

  If this start number already has several times, the info display (7) shows as follows:  

 

Input:  0015  LZ  00:01:35.139 

NEW No

  F1  The currently valid time can be 

 

   

 

DISQU. 

F2  overwritten. 

 

  You can overwrite the time with the number keys of keypad (8) (manual input of run time). 

  If you want to assign the marked run time also to another start number, press <F1> and input 

the new start number. 

  You can disqualify a competitor with <F2>; start, finish and run time of the disqualified competitor 

are invalidated. 

  Leave the menu by pressing both <MENU> and <INPUT> on finish keypad (8). 

Attention: A run time of 00:00:00.00 means that no finish time has been assigned to this start number 

yet. An overwritten run time is marked with c, e. g. 

c0009 LZ 00:01:35.139 

 

 

Summary of Contents for TDC8001

Page 1: ...Manual Version E220323...

Page 2: ...Manual TdC 8001 2...

Page 3: ...partment and thermal printer 12 Start keypad START manual start impulse CLEAR clear start impulse BLOCK start impulse invalid as long as the key is pressed INPUT edit start times ENTER confirm input c...

Page 4: ...Manual TdC 8001 4...

Page 5: ...cian according to IEC 60364 1 Never touch the mains plug with wet hands Never touch live parts Cleaning Please clean the outside of the device only with a smooth cloth Detergents can cause damage Neve...

Page 6: ...9 3 1 Turn on TdC 8001 19 3 1 1 First Heat 19 3 1 2 Turning on and continuation in the same heat 21 3 1 3 Second next heat 21 3 2 Keypad Functions 23 3 2 1 Start Keypad 12 23 3 2 2 Finish Keypad 8 23...

Page 7: ...ram 12 90 6 11 Cycling Program 13 94 6 11 1 Road Races Program 131 94 6 12 Dog Sports Program 14 97 6 12 1 Challenge Program 141 97 6 13 TdC Test Program 15 97 7 Description of Accessory Devices 99 7...

Page 8: ...fference time are measured From both heats the total time and total difference time is calculated DUAL TIMER Program 6 Net timing with intermediate times on both courses with one racer each on the cou...

Page 9: ...t number can have any number of stop impulses on same channel Output of times on separate channels on separate scoreboards EQUESTRIAN SPORTS Program 11 Programs for show jumping events Please ask your...

Page 10: ...1 Connect cable 005 02 to jack extern supply A Connect automotive clip at positive pole of the battery Connect automotive clip at negative pole of the battery red LED 2 at TdC 8001 must glow 2 1 3 Ope...

Page 11: ...d automatically Buffer Mode All printer data is stored but not printed This mode should be activated during paper replacement Printer in print mode press PRINT Printer in buffer mode PRINT Printer swi...

Page 12: ...ourse 2 to jack A and of course 3 to jack B cable 001 xx o Intermediate time supply from timing device The cable depends on used program For Split the connections can be as described above but cable 0...

Page 13: ...ual TdC 8001 13 Display Board GAZ For distances of more than 10 meters any two core cable with banana plugs can be used Start microphone SM8 with speech amplifier SV4 SM Photocell adapter LA5 Push but...

Page 14: ...Manual TdC 8001 14 Speaker PC...

Page 15: ...ime only difference timing Finish time only difference timing Intermediate time every one Run time Times saved in 2 heat Memory time Start time only difference timing Finish time only difference timin...

Page 16: ...ew heat All valid run times and total times are saved for further heats All other times are cleared 2 7 Precision The precision with which run intermediate and total time are shown can be selected wit...

Page 17: ...st function shows the state of the device All 10 channels are always monitored regarding their state 4 line If a channel blinks it short circuited For the channels 0 3 and 6 the voltage is always show...

Page 18: ...lso be caused by a long impulse or short circuit 2 11 Synchronized Start Synchronization with other timing devices is possible The synchronization is carried out during setting of the time of day in t...

Page 19: ...wn how many disk spaces are occupied first number and how many are vacant second number By pressing one of the F keys 1 4 the races that are to be cleared can be indicated arrow at the end of the line...

Page 20: ...roup has to Gr 2 51 100 be entered In case three groups are entered Gr 1 101 230 as shown here for the fourth group press two Save with ENTER Gr 4 231 0 times ENTER After the groups the time of day ha...

Page 21: ...Finish time time of day LZ 1 30 50 Run time MZ 1 32 38 Memory time TZ 3 02 88 Total time In the main menu menu 8 you can set if the time starts at zero or at the total time of previous heats After cr...

Page 22: ...he previous heat is saved Turn on as with 1 heat Attention do not clear the race for which the 2 heat is carried out Select correct race The info display 7 shows the following Select heat SAME 1 F1 co...

Page 23: ...ng editing the start time of the set start number on start display 1 In order to go to the input menu the keys MENU and INPUT have to be pressed at the same time You can enter Single or Interval Every...

Page 24: ...automatically up and manual and automatically down Printing the ranking Cursor key up Cursor key down For activating second function always first press ALT functions with CLEAR BLOCK MENU and PRINT A...

Page 25: ...tart order corresponds to the start numbers Start numbers count automatically up after every start Set menu 53 on upwards setting is shown on display 2 Display 1 shows 1 as start number After every fu...

Page 26: ...rately The pre set value is 15 Basis for the Bibo rule is the group ranking of the first previous heat For example three groups have been entered Invert Gr 1 15 enter number of competitors to be inver...

Page 27: ...channel 1 are invalid and indicated with b The clock does not stop and no run time is saved Printer b0043 ZZ 10 34 13 384 Display Board no output RS232 b0043 C1 10 34 13 384 CR As long as ALT and BLOC...

Page 28: ...play 1 Input 0015 C0 13 15 35 486 NEW No F1 e g start number 15 The last digit of the start number blinks change or confirm with ENTER For changing the start number enter a new number or select one wi...

Page 29: ...t number Enter interval time interval from start number to start number If interval time is 00 00 00 000 it is a mass start for all entered start numbers Attention If the start times are input before...

Page 30: ...play show the current finish time of the start number shown on finish display 6 Input 0015 C1 13 15 35 486 NEW No F1 e g start number 15 DISQU F2 The last digit of the start number blinks Change or co...

Page 31: ...the start number shown on finish display 6 Input 0015 RT 00 01 35 139 NEW No F1 e g start number 15 DISQU F2 The cursor blinks at the last digit of the start number For editing another start number in...

Page 32: ...e g c0009 MZ 00 01 35 139 4 3 2 4 3 Change Intermediate Times You can edit as follows Overwrite intermediate time with finish keypad 8 Copy intermediate time to another start number Change intermediat...

Page 33: ...in memory channel 1 2 C1 13 05 12 3892 second time in memory channel 1 3 C2 13 05 15 9848 third time in memory channel 2 4 4 C1 13 05 15 4566 fourth time in memory channel1 Figure 4 in the bottom lef...

Page 34: ...ssing MEMO Attention You can exit the MEMO menu at any time press MEMO and arrivals can be edited In order to process the MEMO memory press MEMO and enter the start numbers A wrong time can be cleared...

Page 35: ...otal time 2 2nd rank 0003 RT 0 50 69 start number 3 and run time MT 0 49 52 memory time TT 1 40 21 total time 3 3rd rank 0008 RT 0 50 72 start number 8 and run time MT 0 50 02 memory time TT 1 40 74 t...

Page 36: ...st group is input press EN TER once more Classement Gr 0 Continue ENTER Classes With the class evaluation there are numerous possibilities to issue an individual ranking Any kind of evaluation groups...

Page 37: ...assement RUN TIME FIRST TEN 1 0009 RT 1 30 45 2 0014 RT 1 30 56 etc 9 0002 RT 1 31 69 10 0020 RT 1 31 99 Not Finished All start numbers are printed that have a start time but no finish time Classement...

Page 38: ...sement START TIME F1 FINISH TIME F2 INTERMEDIATE TIME F3 Continue ENTER RUN TIME F4 With F1 all with F2 a part of the selected times can be printed Classement ALL F1 SINGLE F2 Continue ENTER In case o...

Page 39: ...calculation for an alpine skiing race looks like this 1 1st rank 0003 RT 1 49 52 start number 3 and run time RP 00000 00 race points for StNo 3 2 2nd rank 0011 RT 1 49 69 start number 11 and run time...

Page 40: ...enu 11 p 43 Run time rank ON Adjustable ON or OFF Menu 12 p 43 STNO automatic OFF Adjustable START FINISH or OFF Menu 13 p 43 Automatic time 00 00 00 00 Adjustable any odd time Menu 14 p 43 Print star...

Page 41: ...OFF Menu 60 S 49 Startnumber Info RS232 OFF Adjustable ON or OFF Menu 61 S 49 Next Syncimpulse Adjustable next full minute Menu 62 S 49 Extern Beep Adjustable Channel 0 to 9 Menu 63 S 51 RS485 User Wi...

Page 42: ...1 first time started F2 current time last stopped time in first line of info display 7 F3 last time started Finish The info display always shows the finish times This display works for all start modes...

Page 43: ...r in finish display 6 steps forward by one start number after every finish impulse Menu 12 STNO AUTOMATIC START F1 start automatic activated FINISH F2 finish automatic activated OFF F3 automatic deact...

Page 44: ...erface off disable To disable press the arrow key up and then F1 With this version it sends the display board data also through RS485 Starting with version V14 91 is the baud rate not automatically on...

Page 45: ...Heat Menu 24 The TdC 8001 can stay turned on to change the heat Menu 24 SELECT HEAT SAME 1 F1 continue in same heat NEXT 2 F2 select new heat Continue ENTER exit with ENTER Attention If the next heat...

Page 46: ...arallel slalom often a penalty time is imposed if a competitor bows out of the 1st heat Enter this penalty time here If a competitor reaches the finish the finish difference time starts running If the...

Page 47: ...NTER Unit Speed Measurement Menu 33 Default km h Input the unit for speed measurement Select from km h m s and mph Menu 33 UNIT kmh F1 kilometres per hour mps F2 meter per seconds mph F3 miles per hou...

Page 48: ...o be entered for show jumping If you do not input any parcour time no penalty points are added for time violation The parcour time 1 applies to the main course 1st phase Menu 39 PARCOUR TIME 1 000 00...

Page 49: ...you add the result by pressing the key F3 Teams Menu 48 Default OFF This point is only for team show jumping events If you select ON you can input the bibs of each team Distance Menu 49 Default 0 To...

Page 50: ...BLOCK key you can activate the start or finish When using the next bib the Block Mode again active This menu has also a second selection with PRINT BLOCKTIMES If you have this on ON it will print and...

Page 51: ...of the interface RS485 When using the WTN Wireless Timing Network it will read delayed transmitted timing impulses and report a continuous blocked WTN channel If you select the display board mode you...

Page 52: ...e B1 120 Split Sequential 3 Table B2 121 Parallel Diff 4 Table B3 122 Parallel Net 5 Table C 123 Dual Timer 6 Two Stage Jumping 124 Speed 7 American Stage F 125 Speed Skiing 8 American Stage F Time 12...

Page 53: ...m SPLIT with cursor keys ENTER Clear memory for race that is used e g F1 race 1 ENTER Select race ENTER Select precision ENTER Select timing mode ENTER Select start mode ENTER Press YES for input of g...

Page 54: ...u 3 seconds mode off Menu 4 display time 1 3 sec Menu 5 display time 2 3 sec Menu 6 display thousandth off Menu 7 info display finish Menu 8 running time heat Menu 9 running tenth off Menu 10 intermed...

Page 55: ...d GAZ5 The net time and start number rank can be displayed on every ALGE display board Always the current number shown in display 6 is shown on the display board the number is three digit the rank two...

Page 56: ...art time of day with impulse on channel 9 or START Race procedure with mass start and three laps No setting possible on keypad 12 for mass starts start display 1 shows 1 Input start number for finish...

Page 57: ...Menu 19 d board baud rate 2400 baud Menu 20 d board channel 2 running Menu 21 beep on Menu 22 handicap time 00 00 00 00 Menu 23 groups off Menu 24 change heat Menu 25 change race Menu 26 d board test...

Page 58: ...2nd heat Display board GAZ5 With one display board GAZ5 each can be shown Start numer rank run time or running time lap time sequential time channel 2 can be activater in main menu see menu 20 When wo...

Page 59: ...R Select race and ENTER Synchronized TdC 8001 possibly with other timing devices F1 to accept displayed time of day At the next full minute a start impulse is issued via channel c0 TdC 8001 is ready f...

Page 60: ...ue c1 and red c4 course are cleared if both have already a finish impulse Block times Every course can be blocked separately Press BLOCK on start keypad 12 to print out the time of the blue course c4...

Page 61: ...th the difference time r red b blue In the main menu see menu 27 can be set if the output for winner course is red r and blue b or right r and left L In the main menu see menu 20 channel 2 can be acti...

Page 62: ...th the following setting in main menu Menu 18 RS232 run time ON xNNNNxbxxxHH MM SS zht CR winner blue course selection menu 27 xNNNNxlxxxHH MM SS zht CR winner left course selection menu 27 xNNNNxrxxx...

Page 63: ...Manual TdC 8001 63 6 3 2 Parallel Slalom Net Program 5...

Page 64: ...splay 7 must show start number of blue left and red right course as well as the ap propriate run time Info display 7 shows difference time in addition to winner time The start numbers for the next com...

Page 65: ...function MENU INPUT MENU INPUT No function F1 F1 No function F2 F2 No function F3 F3 Switch between finish and start time F4 F4 No function CLASS CLASS Penalty time The penalty time is applied as fin...

Page 66: ...ermediate time Red course on channel 6 Blue course on channel 7 Photocells for 3rd intermediate time Red course on channel 8 Blue course on channel 9 Channel assignment c0 start channel c3 c1 finish c...

Page 67: ...RT 0 44 298 0 025 display after finish 2nd heat 0001 r RT 0 44 323 st no course runtime heat time heat lead 0002 b TT 1 28 458 0 071 display after finish 2nd heat 0001 r TT 1 28 529 st no course total...

Page 68: ...tion b and r or L and r can be set in menu 27 Difference Time GAZ Address 0 middle position D LINE Parameter Ad00 SEh2 Run time total time For every course a separate display board is required With th...

Page 69: ...ed from penalty time pNNNNiRTxxHH MM SS zhtqx CR Parallel slalom run time calculated from penalty time pNNNNiTTxxHH MM SS zhtqx CR Parallel slalom total time calculated from penalty time x blank NNNN...

Page 70: ...groups are to be entered otherwise NO and ENTER always input last number of group confirm every input with ENTER after the entering start number of last group press ENTER synchronize TdC 8001 possibl...

Page 71: ...rt number for red right course with keypad 8 ENTER display 6 must show start number of red right course info display 7 must show start numbers of blue left and red right course as well as corre spondi...

Page 72: ...urse identification The courses can be marked with r red and b blue or r right and l left Selection for marking in main menu menu 27 channel ID 4 Channel assignment c0 start channel red right c1 finis...

Page 73: ...urse RT 1 21 24 run time left course Display Board D LINE and GAZ Net time and start number rank can be shown on a ALGE display board Always the current number of display 6 is shown on display board t...

Page 74: ...ut with ENTER after start number of last group press ENTER synchronize TdC 8001 possibly with other ALGEtiming devices press F1 for confirming displayed time of day with next full minute start impulse...

Page 75: ...unit km h Menu 34 min speed 10 km h Menu 35 max speed 200 km h Menu 53 bib counting manual Menu 55 LED brightness 9 Menu 59 pulse from radio all channels off Menu 62 extern beep all channels off Menu...

Page 76: ...m h 144 23 first speed measurement 0002 km h 120 08 second speed measurement Menu 31 print times ON 0001 C0 13 49 41 8506 1st photocell impulse 0001 C1 13 49 42 1006 2nd photocell impulse LZ 0 00 2490...

Page 77: ...NO and ENTER when entering groups always enter last number of a group confirm every input with ENTER after start number of last group is entered press ENTER synchronize TdC 8001 possibly with other ti...

Page 78: ...n Default main menu Menu 1 delay time start 1 0 sec Menu 2 delay time finish 0 3 sec Menu 3 seconds mode off Menu 4 display time 1 3 sec Menu 6 display thousandths off Menu 7 info display finish Menu...

Page 79: ...d on display board number is 3 digit rank 2 digit In main menu menu 20 channel 2 can be activated If working with channel 2 only three stopped times are shown on display board no running time start nu...

Page 80: ...via channel c0 TdC 8001 is ready for timing press F2 is display 5 shows wrong time of day enter time with finish keypad 8 and confirm with ENTER start clock with start signal START or channel c0 Race...

Page 81: ...6 intermediate time c7 intermediate time c8 intermediate time c9 intermediate time Default main menu Menu 1 delay time start 1 0 sec Menu 2 delay time finish 0 3 sec Menu 3 seconds mode off Menu 4 dis...

Page 82: ...tch on 0 up countdown time thumb wheel switch toggle switch on 0 middle RS232c interface Output format 1 start bit 8 data bit no parity bit 1 stop bit Transfer rate 9 600 baud preferred setting 2400 4...

Page 83: ...ith other timing devices press F1 for confirming indicated time of day at next full minute a start impulse is issued via channel c0 TdC 8001 is ready for timing press F2 if display 5 shows wrong time...

Page 84: ...1 delay time start 1 0 sec Menu 2 delay time finish 0 3 sec Menu 3 seconds mode off Menu 4 display time 1 3 sec Menu 6 display thousandths off Menu 7 info display finish Menu 9 running tenth off Menu...

Page 85: ...Zeit v Startnr 1 auf channel 1 Display board D LINE and GAZ The run time running time and start number rank can be displayed each on an ALGE display board The current number indicated on display 6 is...

Page 86: ...xx on jack B display board on position 4 lane 3 channel 7 cable 001 xx on jack C display board on position 7 lane 4 channel 2 cable 003 xx on jack A display board on position 2 When charging the TdC...

Page 87: ...ish menu 7 For every lane any number of impulses can be received The time is always shown on the display and the display board for the time set in display time 2 The display time 2 start anew with eve...

Page 88: ...annel 4 lane 2 0001 ST 10 52 04 9900 start time channel 2 lane 4 C2 10 52 51 4672 finish time channel 2 lane 4 RT 0 45 47 run time channel 2 lane 4 0001 ST 10 52 04 9900 start time channel 7 lane 3 C7...

Page 89: ...rogram 118 Table AM9 program 119 Table B1 FEI article 269 program 120 Table B2 FEI article 269 program 121 Table B3 FEI article 269 program 122 Table C FEI article 239 program 123 Two Stage Jumping FE...

Page 90: ...001 does not have to be operated during the race Operating the TdC 8001 Inside lane The competitor starting on the inside lane is maintained as inside lane competitor for the whole race on TdC 8001 di...

Page 91: ...ll minute a start impulse is issued via channel c0 TdC 8001 is ready for timing press F2 is display 5 shows wrong time of day enter time with finish keypad 8 and confirm with ENTER start clock with st...

Page 92: ...c2 no function c3 no function c4 finish for outside lane c5 no function c6 no function c7 no function c8 no function c9 no function Default main menu Menu 1 delay time start 1 0 sec Menu 2 delay time...

Page 93: ...ree display boards can be connected for each lane one shows the running time one the start number or after finishing the rank a further additionally the lap time run time and running time start number...

Page 94: ...press F2 if display 5 shows wrong time of day enter time with finish keypad 8 and confirm with ENTER start clock with start signal START or channel c0 Race procedure short channel c1 and c3 press ALT...

Page 95: ...rint start time off Menu 16 paperfeed 0 Menu 17 RS232 baud rate 9600 baud Menu 18 RS232 run time off Menu 19 d board baud rate 2400 baud Menu 20 d board channel 2 running Menu 21 beep on Menu 22 handi...

Page 96: ...INE and GAZ winner time running time lag time average speed Channel 2 can be activated in main menu see menu 20 When working with channel 2 only the stopped time is shown on display board no running t...

Page 97: ...n selecting general measurements the info display shows as follows Menu 48 GENERAL MEASUREMENTS BATT F1 battery test UB 8 5V IB 0 00A TB 23 9 CLOCK F2 clock of RS485 UE 5 0V IE 0 00A TL 69 5 PRINTER F...

Page 98: ...menu 50 When selecting the keypad test the info display shows as follows Menu 50 keypad test U SCB 123 YFU TFC SCB 123 M 789 I0E NFD MAM 789 I0E D 456 PE 456 All keys can be tested Every key that is p...

Page 99: ...essory Devices 7 1 Multichannel MC18 The MC 18 is used when the TdC 8001 is applied as 10 channel timer The MC 18 has wired all 10 channels to banana jacks channel 0 to 9 10 to 17 are not activated Th...

Page 100: ...nfo display alpha numeric liquid crystal display 4 x 40 char acters figure height 4 8 mm Control elements on off switch g menu 53 start keypad 12 with 15 keys function keypad 9 with 15 keys finish key...

Page 101: ...ut channel 7 stop 3 joint ground 4 input external supply 6 15 VDC 5 output 5 VDC stabilized 6 input channel 8 intermediate time 8 1 2 Connection for Headset c 1 headset microphone 2 joint ground 3 hea...

Page 102: ...8 RS485 A 9 clock A 10 clock B 11 empty 12 joint ground 13 output 5 VDC stabilized 14 channel 1 15 channel 5 16 channel 8 17 channel 6 18 channel 4 19 empty 20 empty 21 empty 22 empty 23 output extern...

Page 103: ...k NNNN start number 4 digit 0000 start number 0 always for times in memo mode i identification of course with dual timer CC channels of timing device CCM manual impulse with START or STOP of keypad 12...

Page 104: ...ing Laps at split sequential RS232 inquiry LAPS TdC 8001 response LAPS 4 set number of laps 1 99 8 2 2 Settings of Main Menu via RS232 Interface Delay time start menu 1 RS232 inquiry DTS RS232 command...

Page 105: ...BLUE adjustable B or L blue or left Penalty time menu 28 RS232 inquiry PT RS232 command PT 1 500 adjustable sec and 1 1000 sec Start channel for dual timer menu 29 RS232 inquiry STS RS232 command STS...

Page 106: ...nfirmed with CR Termination 00 and CR CGRALRT CR run time of all groups CGRALMT CR memory time of all groups CGRALTT CR total time of all groups CGRALITC2 CR intermediate time channel C2 of all groups...

Page 107: ...f first ten competitors CFT01SQ CR Randenzeit 01 Rande 1 of first ten competitors DFTMT CR memory time of first ten competitors DFTTT CR total time of first ten competitors CFTITC2 CR intermediate tim...

Page 108: ...ALRRT CR run times red right course dual timer PALLRT CR run times left course dual timer PROTOCOL and SINGLE protocol of selected Enter start number blocks The protocol can be composed of several sta...

Page 109: ...transmit start time to TdC8001 0001 bib 09 02 31 9572 Start Time 00 Rank always 00 b Blank The program COMtoFile from ALGE TIMING which is available as freeware includes a fuction to import an Excel w...

Page 110: ...xHH MM SS zhtRR CR channel C3 2nd intermediate time NNNExxxxHH MM SS zhtRR CR channel C4 3rd intermediate time NNNFxxxxHH MM SS zhtRR CR channel C5 4th intermediate time NNNGxxxxHH MM SS zhtRR CR chan...

Page 111: ...t running The output can be set at channel 2 of interface display board e Output of running time stopped time or best time is possible A ranking is always output via the display board interface e at c...

Page 112: ...Manual TdC 8001 112 Subject to changes Copyright by ALGE TIMING GmbH Rotkreuzstr 39 6890 Lustenau Austria https www alge timing com...

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