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plating electronic GmbH      -      Rheinstraße 4     -     D-79350 Sexau      -     Germany 

Tel.: +49 (0)7641 / 93500-0   - Fax.: +49  (0) 7641 / 93500-999   E-Mail:  [email protected]

 

 

 

6.4 

Control unit with stand 

 

 

If unlatched, you can swing out the mounting plate of the control unit to 
use it as a stand for desk top positioning (extension control cable 
required, please order separately). 

could also be hung 
up (use holes in 
plate) 

Содержание ASC TechnoPlate Power Pack 6030A20V

Страница 1: ...nn Print date 2019 06 28 Last saving date 2019 06 28 Last modification History_SIFCO TechnoPlate_001 xlsx V1 5 Comment plating electronic GmbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de Operating Manual for SIFCO ASC TechnoPlate Power Pack with detachable control unit Read this operating manual completely before installation Not followi...

Страница 2: ...SIFCOTechnoPlate Power Pack_2019 05 06_V1 5_e doc 2 68 plating electronic GmbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de ...

Страница 3: ...Control unit with stand 15 7 Devices 15 A 20 V and 30 A 20 V 16 8 DC output connection 17 9 The RS485 BUS connection 18 9 1 Bus terminator 19 9 2 Specification of the BUS cable 19 10 Mains supply 20 10 1 single phase devices 20 10 1 1 Power cord plug single phase type 21 10 1 2 PFC technology 21 10 2 3 phase devices 22 10 2 1 Power cord plug three phase type 22 11 Back plane 24 12 Operation 25 12 ...

Страница 4: ...0 6 Pole changer 54 20 6 1 Configuration of the pole changer 54 20 7 Overload detection 56 20 7 1 Configuration of the Overload detection 57 20 8 The STEP menu 58 20 9 Set label 58 21 Technical data 59 21 1 General specifications 59 21 2 Individual specifications 60 21 2 1 Type 6015A20V 60 21 2 2 Type 6030A20V 60 21 2 3 Type 6015A50V 60 21 2 4 Type 6060A20V 61 21 2 5 Type 3750 W 1 coming year 2020...

Страница 5: ...eneric standards Immunity for industrial environments IEC 61000 6 2 2005 DIN EN 61000 6 4 2011 VDE 0839 6 4 2011 German version Electromagnetic compatibility EMC part 6 4 Generic standards Emission standard for industrial environments IEC 61000 6 4 2006 A1 2010 German version EN 61000 6 4 2007 A1 2011 DIN EN 55011 2011 VDE 0875 11 2011 German version Class A Group 1 German version Industrial scien...

Страница 6: ...ower supply has protecting grade IP00 It is dangerous to open the casing because of the possibility touching voltage carrying parts Therefore it is not permitted to use the DC power supply without bottom or cover plate or with side or front back panels removed Installation repairing and maintenance only by qualified personnel Supply sufficient cooling air for the DC power supply Customer and opera...

Страница 7: ...threat analysis and the relevant safety regulations Further all relevant technical specifications are respected Therefore this technology is state of the art and guarantees a maximum of safety and functionality The safety and functionality can only be kept if the all relevant arrangements are done The operator of the installation is responsible for the adherence of safety rules The operator has to...

Страница 8: ...pply modules While mounting the module and the DC connectors observe especially the following Don t tighten screws with a lever don t bent any rails or panels The device must be operated as desktop unit If mounting the device near the plating tanks or similar installations is necessary one has to make sure that it is protected against chemical vapor dust and dropping particles Ensure an unhindered...

Страница 9: ...ontrol components to ensure correct operation These components are subject to natural ageing processes Aluminum electrolyte capacitors containing liquid electrolyte age over time due to the electrolyte slowly drying out depending on temperature As a result these devices should not be stored for longer than six months If you keep replacement devices in storage they should be integrated into systems...

Страница 10: ...y according to your application The pole changer can be operated in MANUAL or AUTO pole changer mode The preset counter can be individually configured The preset counter can be used to switch the DC power supply off after a certain current rate The A H RESET key is used to start the preset counter manually or to enable auto start if the plating process is running Over temperature protection The de...

Страница 11: ...high efficiency optimized power factor 0 95 correlated to nominal DC values 5 3 Intended purpose Device for industrial application According to the norms DIN EN 61000 3 12 VDE 0838 12 2012 06 EN 61000 3 12 2011 this device is only to be used for industrial applications Offering and selling the device to the general public is not provided This device was designed to be used for selective electropla...

Страница 12: ...ion make sure the control unit is properly latched and the protective cover is closed Using an extension control cable the control unit could be unlocked from rectifier unit and placed nearby Use the fold out stand at the back plane of the control unit to move it in an ergonomic position for your work To unlatch the control unit push it upwards and take it out Latch the control unit to the rectifi...

Страница 13: ...mbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 6 2 Transport lock for the control unit Use the delivered screw to fix the control unit during transportation You can swing the control unit to adjust the angle of view ...

Страница 14: ...any Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 6 3 Protective cover The protective cover plate is used to protect the control unit during transportation It should be closed if the device is not in use If the cover is opened it could be used as a stand for manuals or process instructions ...

Страница 15: ...any Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 6 4 Control unit with stand If unlatched you can swing out the mounting plate of the control unit to use it as a stand for desk top positioning extension control cable required please order separately could also be hung up use holes in plate ...

Страница 16: ...pe and the 30 A 20 V type are the compact versions of the TechnoPlate Power Pack The device 15 A 20 V doesn t require a fan or ventilation grille The control panel is firmly integrated The keypad display and software functions are completely identical to the larger rectifier version The two PLUS terminals have the same potential Type 6015A20V Type 6030A20V Mains connection socket and RS485 BUS ter...

Страница 17: ...ntial The two MINUS terminals have the same potential The unit must be connected according to all applicable federal state and local electrical codes The applicable phase current can be found on the rectifier identification plate located inside the unit Attention The connection of active loads such as batteries or DC machines to the DC output connectors will cause damages to the unit Please check ...

Страница 18: ...RS485 BUS by the following scheme OUTPUT INPUT BUS output BUS input female socket male socket The INPUT socket is used to connect the incoming BUS signal coming from a BUS converter or a RS485 BUS interface The OUTPUT socket is used to connect the BUS terminator if no successive BUS device is looped into the RS485 BUS line Round 4 pin terminal RS485 signal 1 VCC only at BUS output 2 BUS A 3 BUS B ...

Страница 19: ...1 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 9 1 Bus terminator 4 pin female plug The BUS terminator is to be installed at the BUS output socket of the last participant within the RS485 BUS line 9 2 Specification of the BUS cable HELUKABEL type 2 x 2 x 0 22 mm 2 AWG23 2 pairs twisted shielded white brown green yellow ...

Страница 20: ...500 999 E Mail info plating de 10 Mains supply Supply voltage see device type and specification list Use the delivered plug to connect the device to the corresponding mains supply Respect the information on the rating plate which is located on the right side panel of the casing 10 1 single phase devices Connecting scheme Outside view on the socket N PE L ...

Страница 21: ...9350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 10 1 1 Power cord plug single phase type 10 1 2 PFC technology For single phase devices only The PFC technology Power Factor Control allows a reduced phase current by increasing the efficiency of the power part ...

Страница 22: ...22 68 plating electronic GmbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 10 2 3 phase devices Connection scheme Outside view on the socket 10 2 1 Power cord plug three phase type PE L3 L1 L2 ...

Страница 23: ...N VDE 0298 4 2013 06 Use equivalent regulations that are valid for the country the device is used in Provide for an allowable external fuse admitted to DIN VDE 0636 2 2014 09 DIN EN 60269 2 Please check Make sure that the supply cables are directly connected to your main supply Avoid the use of cable extensions and multiple power sockets Do not wire the power supply or the DC cables into a roll or...

Страница 24: ...0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 11 Back plane 1 Power socket 2 RS485 BUS input connector 3 RS485 BUS output connector 4 Cooling air outlet If the BUS connectors are not used apply protective covers to the sockets Type 6030A20V Cooling air outlets via fans in back panel The cooling air inlet grilles are located in the bottom of the device ...

Страница 25: ...bH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 12 Operation 12 1 Main switch The DC power supply must be switched on by using the main switch in the front panel The control unit gets started if the switch is set to ON ...

Страница 26: ...P menu configuration and labeling STEP buttons for switching between steps STORE Store button for storing new preset values STEP RESET delete the actual step LABEL Label setting for individual labeling of the presets Digital potentiometers for fast and fine voltage and current control 14 Manual pole changer With DC output turned on the pole changer generates an acoustic beep sound interval when it...

Страница 27: ...er For other settings of the PRESET counter please go to the SETTINGS menu and select the item Preset Counter To disable the AUTO switch off and alarm function of the PRESET counter set the value to 0 0000 The counter is counting anyway but without alarm and without switching off The LED in the A H PRESET key is always off 15 2 A H RESET function The ampere hour counter PRESET COUNTER is directly ...

Страница 28: ...t value to zero push knobs longer than 3 seconds digit selection move digit marking from right to left by pushing the knobs This applies for the voltage knob and the current knob Generally the rectifier DC output will just be enabled if the ON button on the control unit is actuated Generally After switching the main switch on the control unit always starts in OFF status DC output disabled Apart fr...

Страница 29: ...ne by two digital endless potentiometers with integrated push button function A 360 turn of each potentiometer has a resolution of 32 step positions Each rotary movement of the potentiometer will change the display mode from the act values to the set values Turning the potentiometer again within 2 seconds will start changing the set values The shown set value will be present for 2 sec after turnin...

Страница 30: ...ng de 17 1 Control function Description about the functionality of the digital potentiometers and how these can be used as follows push to select digit one digit to the left turn to adjust value Consider All the following illustrations are examples only The white digit is the one to be adjusted actually 00 00 V This functionality is applicable for the voltage and current setting ...

Страница 31: ...digit starts counting in the below example in 0 01 V steps until the maximum 99 99 V is reached The start point of the counting is always the digit that was used the last or after a restart of the control unit the rightmost digit 00 00 V 00 01 V 00 09 V 00 10 V 00 11 V 00 99 V 01 00 V 01 01 V 09 99 V 10 00 V 10 01 V 99 99 V reading direction turn knob to adjust value turn knob to adjust value turn...

Страница 32: ...digit selection mode With each push you move the digit selection from right to left The starting point is the digit position that was selected the last or after a restart of the control unit the rightmost digit The movement of the digit selection is done in a loop 00 00 V one digit to the left 00 00 V one digit to the left 00 00 V one digit to the left 00 00 V back to rightmost digit push 1 x to s...

Страница 33: ...on is moved to the left You can adjust this value now by turning the potentiometer Push the potentiometer again to jump to the next digit In this way you can adjust each digit separately The starting point is the digit position that was selected the last or after a restart of the control unit the rightmost digit 00 00 V 00 09 V one digit to the left 00 09 V 00 99 V one digit to the left 00 99 V 09...

Страница 34: ... holding the potentiometer for 2 seconds all digits located to the right side of the selected digit will be set to zero The below example shows a value of 5 47 V After pushing and holding the potentiometer for 2 seconds the new value is 5 00 V 05 47 V 05 00 V _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 25 36 V 20 00 V Push and hold the button for 2 sec Push and hold the button ...

Страница 35: ...meters will be loaded and the rectifier output will switch directly to the new setpoints No additional confirmation is needed 2 By selecting a step the new set values will be shown on the display for 2 sec After 2 sec the display switches to the actual values It is not possible to change to Normal Operation or to change from Normal Operation to STEP 1 or to the following if the ON key was pressed ...

Страница 36: ...fied in the step modus itself or in the step menu The step labeling can be done in the step menu or by actuating the LABEL key 18 1 STEP and NEXT STEP keys By pushing the STEP key the step number is counted down by 1 Step 10 Step 9 8 Normal Operation STEP Normal Operation STEP function deactivated By pushing the NEXT STEP key the step number is counted up by 1 Normal Operation Step 1 2 Step 10 The...

Страница 37: ...d to the actual step 18 3 STEP RESET key The STEP RESET key has two functions 1 When working with steps is it possible to do a fine adjustment of the set values at any time just turn corresponding potentiometer By pushing the STEP RESET button the fine adjusted values will be set back to the step set values Alternatively the fine adjusted values can be directly stored on the actually used step num...

Страница 38: ... be done directly by actuating the LABEL key The characters can be selected with the STORE and STEP RESET keys The labeling can also be done via step function menu ENTER Main menu Settings Step function The labeling will be shown in the topmost line of the display Example If step 1 of 10 is loaded the label is indicated with 01 10 Behind the step number indication the individual labeling can be do...

Страница 39: ... 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D Z Use the STEP RESET key to select characters in descending direction 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D Z If one character is selected press ENTER to move the cursor to the next position You cannot move the cursor backwards If you were wrong use the CLR key to exit and then press LABEL to start from the beginning Press the CLR key to finish and store after having confirmed t...

Страница 40: ...sage is displayed Step function activated Use the potentiometers to set the voltage and current values for STEP 1 If you need inverted polarity for the STEP just press the key The LED on the key lights up if the polarity is inverted Consider In the SETPOINT mode OFF key pressed with STEP function activated the inverted polarity is not shown on the display If you press the ON key the actual values ...

Страница 41: ...he Ah preset value on the left side of the decimal place Press ENTER to confirm and move to the digits to the right of the decimal point Press STORE key to increase and STEP RESET key to decrease the Ah preset value on the right side of the decimal point Press ENTER to confirm and store the Ah preset value Before you store the STEP preset enter a STEP name as described above see LABEL key Store th...

Страница 42: ...xamples how to adjust set values These examples show how you can adjust a set value However there are alternative possibilities to adjust set values as well 19 1 Example 1 Adjust voltage set value to 24 V 00 00 V 00 00 V Start adjustment 00 00 V 09 00 V 10 00 V 19 00 V 24 00 V push 2 x to select ones digit 2 x reading direction Turn voltage knob to adjust value in steps of 1 V up to 24 V ...

Страница 43: ...djust voltage set value to 24 53 V 00 00 V 00 03 V 00 03 V 00 53 V 00 53 V 00 00 V 09 00 V 10 00 V 19 00 V 24 00 V reading direction Turn voltage knob to adjust value in steps of 1 V up to 24 V Turn voltage knob to adjust value in steps of 10 mV up to 0 03 V push 1 x push 1 x to select next digit Turn voltage knob to adjust value in steps of 100 mV up to 0 53 V push 1 x push 1 x to select next dig...

Страница 44: ...just the Ah PRESET value too Press STORE key for 3 seconds until you hear a beep The new value is stored 19 4 Adjust preset value temporary You can adjust the STEP preset value temporary without overwriting the STEP preset Just use the potentiometers and adjust the corresponding value Of course you can change the polarity and you can adjust the Ah PRESET value too The new values will be kept until...

Страница 45: ...au Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 20 Settings in main menu 20 1 General description Open the main menu by pressing the ENTER key The display shows Select the desired menu point by pressing the corresponding key Press CLR key to come back to the main menu screen ...

Страница 46: ...ng key for Settings Eventually change display page to come to the desired item The SETTINGS menu is the menu for the most important process settings RS485 BUS settings manual auto setting Total counter Preset counter Pole changer Overload detection peRB menu STEP menu Select the desired sub item of the menu point by pressing the corresponding key Press CLR key to come back to the main menu screen ...

Страница 47: ... Settings menu press the key located beside the RS485 BUS line The display shows The following menu points are available in this menu Mode manual Auto manual DEFAULT setting Baudrate data transfer speed in auto mode Address RS485 BUS address of this device within the BUS line Spec Type Protocol type for RS485 BUS Use the STEP keys to select the line Select manually or auto mode by using the STORE ...

Страница 48: ... de Menu point Baudrate The data transfer rate can be set to several fix values 300 600 1200 2400 4800 9600 14400 19200 28800 38400 57600 manufacturer setting 115200 It is recommended to start with a low data transfer rate If the system is running error free you can increase the data transfer speed Select the value by using the STORE STEP RESET keys Confirm the setting with ENTER ...

Страница 49: ... Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 20 4 Total counter The totalizer Total Counter is not shown on the display Therefore you don t need to do any settings here This total counter is not relevant for the process ...

Страница 50: ... five items are available Direction shows the direction of counting up down Setpoint shows the desired preset value Reset now No current value will be kept Yes current value will be deleted Alarmtime shows the selected alarm time Switch off shows the switching functions of the connected DC power supply inactive Blocking OnRelay Select the desired item of the menu point preset counter by using STEP...

Страница 51: ...cremental down counter counts from preset value downwards to zero decremental Use the STORE STEP RESET keys to select UP or DOWN Direction ____up Setpoint 0 0000 Reset now No Alarmtime 5 s Switch off inactive Confirm the setting with ENTER The cursor will jump to the Setpoint line Menu point setpoint Use the keys to set the desired value on the left of the decimal point Setpoint _____6 0000 Confir...

Страница 52: ...able via key A H RESET Use the keys STORE STEP RESET to select YES or NO Confirm the setting with ENTER Menu point Alarm time The alarm sound is a continuous beep compare pole changer indication sound 1 Hz interval beep In this menu point the alarm duration of the acoustic alarm which is started if the preset counter has reached the final value can be set Possible settings 0 alarm disabled to 999 ...

Страница 53: ...er has reached the final value can be configured here The Following settings are available inactive switching off disabled Blocking switching the DC output of the DC power supply off by BLOCKING function OnRelay switching the DC power supply off by using the Extern ON function Use the STORE STEP RESET keys to select inactive BLOCKING or OnRelay Direction up Setpoint 0 0000 Reset now No Alarmtime 5...

Страница 54: ...y shows Note The DEFAULT setting manufacturer setting is Manual 20 6 1 Configuration of the pole changer In the pole changer menu four items are available Mode auto or manually Time anodic shows the selected time seconds Time cathodic shows the selected time seconds Alarmtime shows the selected alarm time for Reverse mode sound Select the desired item of the menu point pole changer by using the ST...

Страница 55: ... done according to the time settings in this menu point Time settings Time anodic for this time the polarity of the DC output is not changed Time cathodic for this time the polarity of the DC output is changed Alarm time If the polarity has changed to cathodic an acoustic alarm is given out With this menu point you can set the duration of this alarm To disable the acoustic pole changer indication ...

Страница 56: ...actual output current reaches its set point the actual output voltage goes down to a defined voltage drop threshold within a short amount of time max 50 ms The overload function integrated in the device will react in this way The DC power supply will switch to BLOCKING mode immediately DC output OFF The voltage drop threshold can be set from 1 to 99 The recommended value is 20 40 If an overload oc...

Страница 57: ...eside the Overload detection line The display shows The voltage drop threshold can be set from 1 to 99 Use the keys STORE STEP RESET to set the value The recommended value is 20 40 Confirm the setting with ENTER Function If a direct short occurs between the anode and the part The display shows OVERLOAD and a short beep is heard The DC output is shut off The LED in OFF key is flashing The LED in CL...

Страница 58: ...P function The display shows The following settings can be done Steps select max amount of steps 1 99 Manufacturer setting 10 Step Select Step to be labeled see next line Label Put in label name see below item Please note The values shown in the lower area of the display are only for information They cannot be edited here 20 9 Set label Please refer to item LABEL key further up in the text This is...

Страница 59: ...ipple Less than 1 between 2 and 100 of the output current in the frequency range of 0 300Hz Regulation inaccuracy 1 correlated to the nominal DC values within the regulation range current and voltage 2 100 and output power 2 of nominal output power Cyclic duration factor 100 Environmental temperature 5 to 40 C Humidity max 95 relative non condensing Noise suppression according to EN 55011 curve A ...

Страница 60: ...ent 1 5 A at 230 V AC 3 A at 115 V AC Display resolution 10 mV 10 mA 21 2 2 Type 6030A20V DC output voltage 0 20 V continuously variable DC output current 0 30 A continuously variable DC output power max 600 W Mains voltage 100 V 250 V 50 60 Hz single phase Neutral yes Phase current 3 5 A at 230 V AC 6 5 A at 115 V AC Display resolution 10 mV 10 mA 21 2 3 Type 6015A50V DC output voltage 0 50 V con...

Страница 61: ...0 V AC 13 A at 115 V AC Display resolution 10 mV 10 mA 21 2 5 Type 3750 W 1 coming year 2020 DC output voltage 0 25 V continuously variable DC output current 0 150 A continuously variable DC output power max 3750 W Mains voltage 198 V 242 V 50 60 Hz 3 phase Neutral no Phase current 13 5 A at 220 V AC Display resolution 10 mV 100 mA 21 2 6 Type 3750 W 2 coming year 2020 DC output voltage 0 25 V con...

Страница 62: ...wer Pack_2019 05 06_V1 5_e doc 62 68 plating electronic GmbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de 22 Dimensions Size 1 Dimensions protective cover closed ...

Страница 63: ...heinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de The control unit is located behind the protective cover Using an extension control cable the control unit could be unlocked from rectifier unit and placed nearby Protective cover ...

Страница 64: ...SIFCOTechnoPlate Power Pack_2019 05 06_V1 5_e doc 64 68 plating electronic GmbH Rheinstraße 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Tel 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 E Mail info plating de Size 2 ...

Страница 65: ...t and the basic load to the DC output contacts of the rectifier unit The rectifier unit should have the normal environmental temperature It is recommended to use the original CAM LOCK connectors 23 1 Voltage calibration Connect the basic load resistor 60 Ohm 60 W to the DC output terminals Connect the measuring lines of the digital measuring instrument to the DC output connectors of the rectifier ...

Страница 66: ...alues with the values shown on the display of the rectifier unit Consider The measured voltage at the measuring shunt is a reference voltage for the actual current You need to calculate the real current value that is related to the measured voltage Example The measuring shunt has a nominal current capability of 60 A The voltage drop at the shunt is specified with 60 mV at 60 A shunt with 1 mOhm If...

Страница 67: ... check of the casing protecting grade still kept Visual check of all accessible electrical connections within the casing Check up all connections done by the customer The maintenance intervals are to be defined by the customer and or operator The intervals are depending on the environmental conditions and operation cycles Do not clean the units with strong cleaning agents Adjustment and maintenanc...

Страница 68: ...d conditions of the manufacturer Warranty Service Locations North America Canada South America Hendor PE Inc 55 Concourse Way Greer SC 29650 Phone 1 864 879 0888 Fax 1 864 879 4237 Email Werner hendor pe com Europe plating electronic GmbH Rheinstr 4 D 79350 Sexau Germany Phone 49 0 7641 93500 0 Fax 49 0 7641 93500 999 Email martha drayer plating de Asia Solidheat Industries PTE Ltd Block 9005 Tamp...

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