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2   -   INFORMATION FOR USE 

KID 80 SIV

 

 
 

2 - Pag. 56 / 66 

 

5 - ERROR: SHORT FEEDING 

Error: A BAR PUSHER SHORT FEEDING MOVEMENT HAS BEEN DETECTED IN ACCORDANCE 
WITH THE SETTINGS OF PARAMETERS 5 and 6. 

CAUSE SOLUTION 

 

 

 

5 Error: 
    short feeding 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The tolerance values of parameters 
5 and 6 are too low. 

Check the tolerance values with 
regards to the length of the piece to be 
machined.

 

The lathe collet does not open 
correctly. 

Check the correct opening of the collet 
(at least 0.5 mm).

 

Encoder operation failure. 

Check the value relative to the position 
of the bar pusher carriage on the 
display and check the effective variation 
of the value with regards to the real 
displacement of the carriage.

 

The thrust received by the bar is 
too low. 

Check the values of parameters 7 and 
34.

 

"A" - Short piece safety 

tolerance (subparameter 

Par.5), Short feeding 

safety (subparameter 

Par.6). 

"C" - Headstock stroke 

(Parameter Par.5). 

Feeding (Parameter 

Par.6). 

The bar slides out of the collet 
during the headstock stroke. 

Check the bar pusher collet state.

 

 

Summary of Contents for KID 80

Page 1: ...015455 S N COMPILER Bosi Andrea ON APPROVAL Moretti Murizio This manual is a translation of the original document AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER ATTACHMENTS LIST MANUAL FOR USE AND MAINTENANCE KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL SPARE PARTS BOOK SCHEMATICS EC CONFORMITY DECLARATION FOR MACHINE ...

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Page 3: ...za RA Italy Tel 0546 698000 Fax 0546 46224 MANUFACTURER IEMCA A BUCCI AUTOMATIONS DIVISION ADDRESS Via Granarolo 167 48018 Faenza RA ITALY Tel 0546 698000 Fax 0546 46224 TYPE OF DOCUMENT KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL PRODUCT AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER MODEL KID 80 IV Pupa ...

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Page 5: ...mon parameters 10 2 6 2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS 12 2 7 PARAMETER MODIFICATION 14 2 8 SUBPARAMETERS DISPLAY 15 2 9 SUBPARAMETER MODIFICATION 16 2 10 EXITING THE PARAMETERS 17 2 11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 17 2 12 ERRORS CAUSES SOLUTIONS 54 2 12 1 OPERATOR PANEL MESSAGE LIST 64 2 12 2 CONDITIONS THAT MAY CAUSE A GENERIC ALARM ON THE LATHE 65 2 13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA...

Page 6: ...ING AND CHECKING 2 4 2 MODIFYING THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS 3 4 3 MODIFYING THE PROTECTED SUBPARAMETERS 6 4 4 DOWNLOADING THE OP SOFTWARE IN PUPA PROFINET UNIOP OPERATOR PANEL 8 4 5 DOWNLOADING THE SOFTWARE IN THE SIEMENS S7 1200 PLC 12 5 ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV 1 5 1 ASSISTANCE REQUEST 2 A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA 3 B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR 4 D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFEREN...

Page 7: ...FORMATION KID 80 SIV EN 1 Pag 1 15 INDEX 1 1 CONTROL DESCRIPTION 3 1 2 KEYBOARD CONTROL DESCRIPTION 6 1 3 MAIN SCREENS DESCRIPTION 10 1 3 1 Working screen 10 1 3 2 Setup screen 11 1 4 PIECE COUNTER RESET MODE 15 ...

Page 8: ...eserves the right to make changes to the products described herein at any time Thus this document may not not exactly match the product The data contained herein relate to a product range and are not specific to the serial number appearing on the cover ...

Page 9: ...e bar feeder is in Automatic mode the bar feeding is possible only when the Lathe MAN AUT signal is in Automatic mode INFORMATION By pressing the Manual mode button on the handheld keyboard it is possible to prevent the bar feeder Automatic start by the lathe INFORMATION Manual control by keyboard is displayed on the screen if the control is not correct in the keyboard screen a message describing ...

Page 10: ...he electrical and handheld keyboard 1 controls 2 MAIN SWITCH turns the power supply on and off Position 0 OFF the machine is not powered Position I ON the machine is powered 3 EMERGENCY STOP PUSH BUTTON stops the bar feeder in case of emergency For restart release the push button manually ...

Page 11: ...1 BASE INFORMATION KID 80 SIV EN 1 Pag 5 15 ...

Page 12: ...BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING position WARNING CAUTION List of causes that require to carry out the 0 Axis in manual mode Carrying out the manual 0 Axis periodically is recommended If the bar pusher axis is moved by means of the crank with the bar feeder powered off no power supply If the feeding belt is tightened by means of the mechanical belt tightener see Operation and Maintenance Manual Feeding bel...

Page 13: ...g The procedure will continue until the facing position is reached 17 Selects the reset function after a new tooling Press both opposite start buttons and then the key press and hold the keys until the procedure is completed 18 Errors reset button 19 Bar feeder stop button red press this button to stop the bar feeder In Manual mode when the bar feeder is in the required position the half bushes wi...

Page 14: ...ifunction Sets the numerical value Opens the guide channels Push both start buttons and then the key release both buttons and the key only when the movement is finished 26 Multifunction Sets the numerical value Closes the guide channels Push both start buttons and then the key release both buttons and the key only when the movement is finished 27 Multifunction Sets the numerical value Recalls the ...

Page 15: ...alue Moves the bar pusher at a low speed 31 It moves the bar pusher at high speed 32 Multifunction Stops the selection function Restores the value prior to the non confirmed modification 33 Multifunction Sets the font Turns on off the oil pump Press to turn on the pump and press again to turn it off 34 Sets the numerical value 35 Confirms the entered data 36 Sets the numerical value ...

Page 16: ...of machinable pieces of the bar being machined Carriage position Position from 0 K1 is displayed when the bar feeder is at the bar end In all the other operating conditions it is not displayed 2 To continue with the screen display repeatedly press the display shows Carriage position Position from F Quantity of machined pieces for zero setting mode see section 1 4 Total pieces 3 To return to the ma...

Page 17: ...ng keys to select a function the display shows or example Selected function PGS ALM EVT PSW CFG TIM ACC SYS EXT 3 To enter the function the display shows 4 To exit the function Values related to the selected function DATE 05 02 00 The PGS ALM CFG and ACC functions are not accessible The EVT PSW TIM SYS and EXT functions described below are accessible PGS ALM EVT PSW CFG TIM ACC SYS EXT PGS ALM EVT...

Page 18: ...r the password which allows access to the protected modes This function is described in the following sections TIM TIME FUNCTION This function is used to set the date and time the display shows To set date and time 1 Set the day or confirm 2 Set the month or confirm 3 Set the year or confirm 4 Set the hour or confirm 5 Set the minutes or confirm 6 Set the seconds or confirm To set only one digit D...

Page 19: ...1 BASE INFORMATION KID 80 SIV EN 1 Pag 13 15 1 If for instance you need to set the time only move the selection cursor on the time and repeatedly press set the time or ...

Page 20: ... the connection between the keyboard and the printer PRINTER OFF Shows the keyboard battery conditions BATTERY OK 1 To exit or select EXIT confirm 2 To adjust the brightness of the display select DISPLAY or To increase or decrease the brightness or 3 To test the button LEDs select LAMP or to test the operation of the LEDs or EXT EXIT FUNCTION This function is used to exit from the Setup screen 1 T...

Page 21: ...lect the residual value the display shows 5 Eliminate the residual value confirm The selected residual value Total pieces 50 if you wish to stop the selection during the zero setting mode At this stage the value is no longer blinking If the reset has not been confirmed the previous residual value will reappear EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters Long feed safety 0 000 mm Max feed pos ad...

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Page 23: ...D DISPLAY 10 2 6 1 Access to and display of common parameters 10 2 6 2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS 12 2 7 PARAMETER MODIFICATION 14 2 8 SUBPARAMETERS DISPLAY 15 2 9 SUBPARAMETER MODIFICATION 16 2 10 EXITING THE PARAMETERS 17 2 11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 17 2 12 ERRORS CAUSES SOLUTIONS 54 2 12 1 OPERATOR PANEL MESSAGE LIST 64 2 12 2 CONDITIONS THAT MAY CAUSE A GENERIC ALARM O...

Page 24: ...ressing the start button see point 3 Starting the bar feeder For example when starting the bar feeder the Z Z axis of the lathe headstock is moved with the collet closed This manoeuvre can cause serious damages to the bar feeder and the lathe 3 Select the manual mode 4 Select the BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING of the carriage and If the top guide channels are not in a low position the carriage will not m...

Page 25: ...2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 3 66 6 Start the closing of the lathe collet and start working by selecting the automatic mode ...

Page 26: ... carrying out the manual 0 Axis periodically is recommended if the bar pusher axis is moved by means of the crank or the lathe headstock is moved with the bar feeder powered off no power supply if the feeding belt is tightened by means of the mechanical chain tightener see Operation and Maintenance Manual Feeding chain Adjustment ...

Page 27: ...ion of data among electronic components DANGER WARNING it is absolutely forbidden to move the bar pusher before the above mentioned procedure has been completed The bar pusher can be moved only after pressing the start button see point 3 Starting the bar feeder For example when starting the bar feeder the Z Z axis of the lathe headstock is moved with the collet closed This manoeuvre can cause seri...

Page 28: ...EN 2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV 2 Pag 6 66 3 press the bar feeder performs the second step and so on ...

Page 29: ... into account parameter 3 facing mode and parameter 2 facing position If the operator releases the buttons or the key the cycle goes on until it is completed INFORMATION Without the open collet signal from lathe the bar feeder carries out the above mentioned procedure but the bar stops before entering the lathe collet waiting for the open collet signal With the open collet signal from lathe the ba...

Page 30: ...nditions have been created due to the sudden stop For example if the tool was removing chips move the tool away from the work piece before restarting the lathe Stopping the bar feeder at the end of the machining cycle WARNING CAUTION When stopping the machine normally do not use the emergency buttons 1 Complete the operations of your working schedule 2 Stop the bar feeder 3 Stop the lathe 4 Turn o...

Page 31: ...eters concern the working phase while others are used for the bar change phase WARNING CAUTION The parameters are set to a default value preset value the bar feeder performs the automatic cycle according to these values Some parameters may not be appropriate for the lathe type or the type of machining requested The main operation modes are listed hereunder Accessing the parameters Parameter displa...

Page 32: ...arameters 3 the display shows in sequence Bar end adjust Facing length Facing mode Piece length Short feeding safety Long feeding safety Corr max feed pos Total pieces 4 Short menu parameters may also be displayed on the extended menu EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters Bar end adjust 120 00 mm 4 72 inches Facing length 0 000 mm Facing mode 1 Piece length 0 000 mm 0 00 inches Short feed...

Page 33: ...NFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 11 66 It is possible to change the parameter values both in the short and extended menu Long feed safety 0 000 mm Max feed pos adj 0 000 mm 0 00 inches Total pieces 1 ...

Page 34: ...ra_oriz sx 2 The display shows 3 Press to access Parameters 4 Recall the arrow to access IEMCA Parameters 5 Display the parameters all the other parameter will appear in sequence EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters PARAMETERS Par IEMCA Parameters Param Operator no 1 Bar end adjustment 120 mm 4 72 inches Ins Choose Move Enter Confirm ...

Page 35: ...arameters return to screen 4 and proceed as follows 9 Recall the selection cursor The Par 0 value starts blinking 10 Enter the parameter number for example 1 the parameter value changes from 0 to 1 and starts blinking confirm parameter 1 is now displayed EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters Bar feeder waiting MANUAL MODE Position from 0 K1 3 34 mm 0 13 inches PARAMETERS Par IEMCA Paramet...

Page 36: ...alue the display shows Selected value 115 mm 3 Enter the desired value for example 120 the value changes from 115 to 120 and starts blinking confirm no 1 Bar end adjustment 115 mm 4 52 inches Ins Choose Move Enter To confirm no 1 Bar end adjustment 115 mm 4 52 inches Ins Choose Move Enter Confirm no 1 Bar end adjustment 120 mm 4 72 inches Ins Choose Move Enter Confirm ...

Page 37: ...ng the modification mode you want to stop the selection At this stage the value is no longer blinking If the value is not confirmed when entered the last value will reappear 2 8 SUBPARAMETERS DISPLAY Some parameters have subparameters 1 To display them scroll down the parameter screen by pressing repeatedly 2 To return to the parameter screen scroll the screen upwards by repeatedly pressing no 1 B...

Page 38: ...sor the display shows Selected value 1000 mm sec 3 Move the selection cursor by pressing one of the following keys the display shows Selected value 1100 mm sec sec New speed 1000 mm sec Con acceleration 1100 mm sec sec New speed point New speed 1000 mm sec Con acceleration 1100 mm sec sec New speed point New speed 1000 mm sec Con acceleration 1100 mm sec sec New speed point ...

Page 39: ... you want to stop the selection At this stage the value is no longer blinking If the value is not confirmed when entered the last value will reappear 2 10 EXITING THE PARAMETERS 1 Exit the parameter display mode pupa_kid_barra_vert dx 2 11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION New speed 1000 mm sec Con acceleration 1200 mm sec sec New speed point New speed 1000 mm sec Con acceleration 1100 mm sec sec Ne...

Page 40: ...ar feeder lathe prevents the headstock from completing the return stroke INFORMATION Using the Bar End 1 Adjustment subparameter rules out the possibility for one of the the above mentioned functions of being used simultaneously with the other 1 the subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder lathe Defines the position where the bar feeder should send the Bar End Signal 1 to the lathe...

Page 41: ...onal bush opening synchronized with the length of the machined piece Move the lathe headstock K in its completely forwards limit stop position move the bar pusher S forwards without the bar inside the guide channel positioning the front part at about 30 mm from the additional bush L Check the value relative to the position F on the display which by definition is called PdF1 the measured value shal...

Page 42: ...s request 3 The subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder lathe prevents the headstock from completing the return stroke There is a condition in which the length of the loaded bar plus the length of the bar pusher added to the max headstock stroke is greater than the distance between the 0 axis sensor and the lathe collet If the headstock moves back with closed collet the bar and th...

Page 43: ... STOP once the bar has exceeded the value defined in parameter 2 it proceeds until bar limit stop or until it reaches the tool 1 IN POSITION the bar is positioned in the point defined in parameter 2 Subparameters B Overrun admitted after I C Facing to limit stop Vmax D Facing to limit stop Cmax 2 no 2 Facing length xxxx mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1 0 3 no 3 Facing mode xxxx...

Page 44: ...ameter 4 B Parameter 6 0 Not enabled for first piece the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for the first piece 1 Enabled for first piece the parameter is active for every feeding operation the facing phase excepted INFORMATION The short piece control cannot be performed in sliding headstock lathes bar feeding is carried out by the headstock INFORMATION Setting the subparameter ...

Page 45: ... for first piece the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for the first piece 1 Enabled for first piece the parameter is active for every feeding operation the facing phase excepted INFORMATION In the sliding headstock lathe you can use this parameter to check for any tool breakages enter a value of a few millimetres maximum 5 mm INFORMATION Setting the subparameter to 1 Enabled f...

Page 46: ... parameter 35 is set to 1 or 2 When parameter 35 is set to 0 this parameter is not active A parameter 6 B about 4 mm no 7 Open collet speed Defines the FEEDING speed value 6 no 6 Piece length xxxx mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 7 no 7 Open collet speed xxxxx mm sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 300 0 diviso 1905 ...

Page 47: ...opening is slow double cone collet no 10 Closed collet thrust delay At the closed collet signal from the lathe the bar pusher continues pushing in accordance to the set time Application example it should be used when the mechanical movement of the collet closing is slow double cone collet 9 no 9 Open collet thrust delay xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 10 no 10 Closed collet thr...

Page 48: ...collet entry slowdown start referred to C G see subparameter N of Parameter 14 C Collet outer alignment Parameter 64 I Facing Parameter 64 Parameter 2 in the example in the picture the hypothetical value entered in Parameter 2 100 mm The value can be either positive or negative for further information see Parameter 2 11 no 11 Collet entry slowdown XXXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE K...

Page 49: ...ID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 27 66 no 12 Collet entry speed Defines the value by which the speed is reduced in the slowdown section see parameter 11 A 12 no 12 Collet entry speed xxxxx mm sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 6 ...

Page 50: ... receives during its feeding in the lathe collet It is active in the slowdown section see parameter 11 PROGRAMMABLE VALUE 0 100 KID VALUE IN N 1 kg 9 81N 10 40 20 180 30 280 40 360 50 490 60 580 70 680 80 790 90 880 100 990 13 no 13 Collet entry torque xxxx 0 100 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 40 0 100 ...

Page 51: ...rameters for setting the pulse window M Pulse phase window start referred to C N Pulse phase window end referred to I the collet entry slowdown G simultaneously ends INFORMATION To prevent unnecessary machine stops it is recommended to enter a high value in the subparameter M INFORMATION If the bar meets an obstacle before entering the pulse window section the bar feeder goes into ALARM 15 Station...

Page 52: ...0 66 C Collet outer alignment Parameter 64 I Facing Parameter 64 Parameter 2 in the example in the picture the hypothetical value entered in Parameter 2 100 mm The value can be either positive or negative for further information see Parameter 2 ...

Page 53: ...moves into the slowdown section see parameter 11 the bar meets the obstacle the collet and the lathe receives the pulses to start turning the spindle for the set time the spindle slows down and then stops for the time defined in parameter 19 the bar receives the feeding pulse if the bar is fed into the collet the cycle goes on if the bar does not enter into the collet the previous phases will be r...

Page 54: ... delay When the bar is in the facing position see parameter 2 the cycle start signal of the lathe can be delayed for a preset value K15 Application example it is necessary to have the cycle start signal delay when the spindle needs a certain time to reach the operating rotation speed 19 no 19 Spindle pulses off time xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1 0 1 2 3 20 no 20 Cycle start d...

Page 55: ...jection or 2 Bar change advance Foreword To enable one of the two modes the lathe should have a subprogramming function The subprogram should control the bar stop removal at the bar end signal The bar stop removal allows the ejection of the remnant from side A of the lathe 21 no 21 Remnant handling xxxxxxxxxx DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 1 2 3 ...

Page 56: ... B The lathe receives the BAR END signal from the bar feeder finishes the machining of the last piece then goes in the subprogram bar stop removal and sends the FEEDING and the BAR CHANGE signals C The bar pusher moves up to point F maximum feeding point of the bar pusher and the bar feeder carries out the bar change D Through the feeding the new bar ejects the remnant and moves into the facing po...

Page 57: ...efore the last piece machining ends and the bar pusher attains point F The remnant is ejected only with the new bar Necessary conditions Set the interface signal 85 LOADING CYCLE in position 1 NC and set parameter 21 REMNANT HANDLING in mode 2 Use the LOADING CYCLE lathe signal applicable only to lathes which have this function Description of the phase order the lathe receives the BAR END signal w...

Page 58: ...ioned conditions the bar feeder carries out the bar pusher return loads a new bar in the guide channels carried out first feeding and bar loading in the bar feeder collet and then awaits the FEEDING and BAR CHANGE signals as soon as the last piece has been machined the lathe enters the subprogram bar stop removal and sends both the BAR FEEDING and BAR CHANGE signals the new bar begins the facing p...

Page 59: ...will activate the ALARM no 25 Bar feeding handling 0 FEEDING END WITH BAR CHANGE the bar feeder will stop feeding when the BAR CHANGE signal is received 1 FEEDING END WITH K1 in the presence of the BAR END K1 signal the bar feeder stops the feeding 23 no 23 Piece timeout xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 25 no 25 Bar feeding handling xxxxxxxxxx DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE ...

Page 60: ...the whilst FEEDING VALUE 0 Application example 1 Set value at 1000 the display shows 2 Start machining After finishing 1 000 pieces the bar feeder will command the lathe stop the display shows To restart machining the value in brackets should be reset 26 no 26 Pieces before lathe stop xxxxxx xxxxxx DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 no 26 Pieces before lathe stop 1000 0 no 26 Pieces befo...

Page 61: ... VALUE 0 When the minutes set have passed the bar feeder signals the lathe to stop FEEDING no 28 Closed collet speed Defines the CLOSED collet speed value 27 no 27 Minutes before lathe stop XXXX min DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 28 no 28 Closed collet speed xxxx Vmax DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 20 0 ...

Page 62: ...ith the bar pusher ejection see parameter 21 point b necessary when the lathe collet is replaced with one of different dimension When the adjustments of point F are performed parameter 1 is modified as shown in the figure A No adjustment B With adjustment for example 10 C With adjustment for example 10 29 no 29 Pos adjustment max feeding XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 ...

Page 63: ... the information that appear on the display 1 ITALIAN 2 ENGLISH 3 DEUTSCH 4 FRANÇAIS 5 ESPAÑOL 6 SVENSKA 7 DANSK 8 PORTUGUÊS 9 NEDERLANDS 10 SUOMI 11 CZECH 12 RUSSIAN 13 POLISH 30 no 30 Language 1I 2GB 3D 4F 5E 6S 7DK DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ...

Page 64: ...he FEEDING signal no 33 K2 inversion 0 K2 is on 1 at limit stop During the feeding signal the K2 relay remains off during the bar feeding it is activated when the bar arrives at the bar limit stop encoder stop 1 K2 is on 0 at limit stop The K2 relay is active during the bar feeding and off when the bar reaches the bar limit stop encoder stop 32 no 32 K1 immediate exit xxxxxxxxxx DEFAULT VALUE PROG...

Page 65: ...que Defines the thrust value received by the bar at each FEEDING PROGRAMMABLE VALUE 0 100 KID VALUE IN N 1 kg 9 81N 10 40 20 180 30 280 40 360 50 490 60 580 70 680 80 790 90 880 100 990 34 no 34 Feeding torque xxxx 0 100 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 40 40 ...

Page 66: ...s from the bar limit stop and then carries out another feeding up to the bar limit stop until the FEEDING signal is active Parameter A Fixed piece feeding Subparameters B Position C Speed D Acceleration E Deceleration no 36 K15 disabling 0 K15 ENABLED Enables the warning at every use of parameter 35 in position 1 1 K 15 DISABLED Disables the warning at every use of parameter 35 position 1 35 no 35...

Page 67: ...uration Defines the CYCLE START signal duration no 38 K13 duration Defines the CYCLE STOP signal duration 37 no 37 K15 duration xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1 5 1 5 38 no 38 K13 duration xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 2 2 ...

Page 68: ... When the bar change is carried out the signal stops the spindle 0 RELAY DISABLED WITH BAR CHANGE The relay is disabled with the bar change 1 RELAY ALWAYS ENABLED The relay is always enabled 39 no 39 Spindle stop xxxxxxxxxx DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 0 ...

Page 69: ...her coming into contact with the bar Parameter A Position The subparameters define the speed and acceleration deceleration during the closed collet bar pusher movement B Speed C Acceleration D Deceleration For fixed headstock or sliding rest lathes set a displacement of some millimetres 40 n 40 Closed collet bar pusher return xxxx mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID A 10 B 0 C 0 D ...

Page 70: ...EN 2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV 2 Pag 48 66 For sliding headstock lathes set the value of the headstock stroke plus some millimetres A Headstock stroke 2 3 mm B Headstock stroke ...

Page 71: ...ops as soon as it reaches the value set in the parameter no 42 Bar pusher return pause BAR PUSHER RETURN signal timing 41 no 41 First feeding value B XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1720 N 1075 L 1405 LL 1735 42 no 42 Bar pusher return pause xxxx sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 2 0 2 ...

Page 72: ...ing speed change Allows changing the FIRST FEEDING SPEED Parameter A Speed type 0 Slow 1 Fast Subparameters B Speed 1 C Speed 2 D Acceleration E Deceleration 43 no 43 First feeding speed change 0 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID A 1 B 9144 C 48000 D 100 E 10 ...

Page 73: ...ing 1 Fast Vel mm min B mm V1 V2 F G L H Speed Speed mm minute B Space covered mm V1 Speed set in slow section V2 Speed set in fast section F V1 ramp acceleration G V2 ramp acceleration H Deceleration L Facing flag Parameter Speed change in first feeding 0 Slow Vel mm min B mm V1 F H L ...

Page 74: ...NFORMATION The function of these two subparameters is applicable with parameter 24 in modes 0 and 5 It is not applicable with modes 1 2 3 and 4 Bar pusher stop with closed collet 0 the bar pusher stop is off 1 the bar pusher stop is on Axis stop engagement delay This subparameter allows setting a delay time for the axis stop engagement at every CLOSED COLLET This period of time allows you to relea...

Page 75: ... 580 70 680 80 790 90 880 100 990 INFORMATION When working with Par 24 1 sliding headstock with no synchronization device the Closed collet torque adjusts the thrust value with which the bar pusher moves the bar during the CLOSED COLLET signal Bar pusher stop with closed collet x Axis stop engagement delay sec Closed collet torque xxx ...

Page 76: ... restore the automatic cycle carry out the following procedure restore the manual cycle eliminate the cause of the error restore the automatic cycle INFORMATION All messages with Error must be reset by pressing When a warning is displayed the bar feeder does not stop and it is not necessary to reset the machine The warnings appear when attempting to perform a manoeuvre which is not allowed by the ...

Page 77: ...d if the pulse sequence is correct The feeding speed and or torque are not suitable Check the speed see parameter 12 and or the torque see parameter 13 4 ERROR GATE OPEN S1008 Off Error AT THE FIRST FEEDING STROKE START THE SHORT FEED GATE IS OPEN CAUSE SOLUTION 4 4 Error short feed gate open The short feed gate is jammed and cannot be closed Make sure that there are no foreign bodies chips remnan...

Page 78: ...ectly Check the correct opening of the collet at least 0 5 mm Encoder operation failure Check the value relative to the position of the bar pusher carriage on the display and check the effective variation of the value with regards to the real displacement of the carriage The thrust received by the bar is too low Check the values of parameters 7 and 34 A Short piece safety tolerance subparameter Pa...

Page 79: ...e variation of the value with regards to the real displacement of the carriage Possible breakage of the cutting tool Check the condition of the cutting tool B Long piece safety tolerance subparameter Par 5 or Long feeding subparameter Par 6 C Headstock stroke Parameter C Par 5 Piece feeding Parameter C Par 6 The bar slides out of the collet during the headstock stroke Check the bar pusher collet s...

Page 80: ...ollet timeout In the AUTOMATIC mode the lathe collet remained open for a longer period than the one set in parameter 22 Check the value of parameter 22 with regards to the real FEEDING time 10 BAR FEEDER EMERGENCY Warning THE GENERAL CONTROLS OF THE BAR FEEDER ARE NOT INSERTED CAUSE SOLUTION 10 10 Error bar feeder emergency An emergency button has been pressed Check the state of the emergency butt...

Page 81: ...E SOLUTION 13 13 Error piece timeout The working cycle for machining a piece has taken longer than the time set in parameter 23 Check the setting in parameter 23 with regards to the working cycle The working cycle for machining a piece has undergone an interruption or a slowdown Make sure that the actual duration of the working cycle does not face slowdowns or interruptions INFORMATION The alarm d...

Page 82: ... 80 SIV 2 Pag 60 66 The pulse window defined in parameter 14 has not been set correctly Check the value set in parameter 14 A Parameter 11 B Area with error 27 An inappropriate torque value has been set Check the set torque value ...

Page 83: ...ment device The sensor is faulty Replace the sensor Incorrect reading of the sensor Check the distance between the sensor and the relevant cam 17 MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKERS E11 7 A MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKER HAS TRIPPED CAUSE SOLUTION 17 17 Error motor thermal circuit breakers The oil pump overheating has occurred Make sure that the involved motor can run freely and check the correct therma...

Page 84: ...E SOLUTION 19 19 No bar The phase detector is not working properly Make sure that the phase detector on the mechanical cam works properly There is a mechanical obstacle 22 MACHINE OK THIS IS A MESSAGE AND DOES NOT NEED A RESET IT IS USED ONLY TO SEND AN SMS OR AN EMAIL INFORMING ON THE AUTOMATIC RESET AFTER AN ALARM CAUSE SOLUTION 22 22 Machine OK This message appears for a few seconds when the ba...

Page 85: ...e failure Check the microswitch placed on the cam box of the thread safety The bar did not move to the last COLLET OPENING Make sure that the lathe collet opens correctly and check the bar feeder thrust parameter 34 25 CARRY OUT THE 0 AXIS AFTER A POWER OFF ON THE ENCODER VALUE PRESET OPERATION WAS NOT CARRIED OUT CORRECTLY IN THE PRESET TIME CAUSE SOLUTION 25 25 Carry out 0 axis after a power off...

Page 86: ... the key on the bar feeder keyboard Message number Message description Message type 1 1 MANUAL FROM KEYBOARD SIGNAL When a warning is displayed the bar feeder does not stop and it is not necessary to reset the machine The warnings appear to indicate a machine status or when attempting to perform a manoeuvre which is not allowed by the program and provide information for the operator during the mac...

Page 87: ...ilure on the bar feeder The cause of this alarm can be one of the following conditions With the bar feeder in manual mode The guide channels loading side are open The bar loading device is up With the bar feeder in automatic mode or during the bar change phase The lathe and the bar feeder have entered the bar change phase in automatic mode but the guard giving access to the bar magazine is open WA...

Page 88: ...identification data of the Push button panel Firmware 1 Turn off the electrical supply 2 Turning the electrical supply on again the following screen will appear on the display for a few seconds identification data of the push button panel firmware UniOP XX XX To display the identification data of the Push button panel software of the PLC NC Software 1 Enter the data entering mode pupa_kid_barra_or...

Page 89: ...CCESS AND DISPLAY PARAMETERS 5 3 3 SUBPARAMETERS DISPLAY 7 3 4 HOW TO EXIT THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS 7 3 5 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 7 3 6 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES DESCRIPTION 8 3 7 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES DESCRIPTION 16 3 8 AXIS FUNCTION PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 18 3 9 INTERFACE PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 24 3 10 GENERAL PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 25 ...

Page 90: ...s possible only by using the special data entering mode To access this mode it is necessary to follow the procedure given in Section 4 2 The pages of this section are only supplied to the technician authorized by the manufacturer WARNING CAUTION The parameters are set to a default value preset value the bar feeder performs the automatic cycle according to these values The main display modes are th...

Page 91: ... different procedures 1 Enter the parameter display mode pupa_kid_barra_oriz sx and then 2 Recall the selection cursor the display shows Selected parameter number Par 0 3 Enter the parameter number for example 54 the value changes from 0 to 54 and starts blinking confirm 4 parameter 54 is displayed EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters PARAMETERS Par IEMCA Parameters Param Operator no 54 ...

Page 92: ...EN 3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV 3 Pag 4 26 5 To display the protected parameters press the display shows for example no 53 ...

Page 93: ...oriz sx 2 The display shows 3 Press to access Parameters 4 Recall the arrow to access OPERATOR Parameters 5 Display the parameters all the other parameter will appear in sequence EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters PARAMETERS Par IEMCA Parameters Param Operator no 1 Bar end adjustment 120 mm 4 72 inches Ins Choose Move Enter Confirm ...

Page 94: ...tly access the parameters return to screen 4 and proceed as follows 9 Recall the selection cursor The Par 0 value starts blinking 10 Enter the parameter number for example 1 the parameter value changes from 0 to 1 and starts blinking confirm parameter 1 is now displayed EN Help Machining Parameters Common parameters MANUAL MODE Position from 0 K1 3 34 mm PARAMETERS Par IEMCA Parameters Param Opera...

Page 95: ...return to the parameter screen scroll the screen upwards by pressing repeatedly 3 4 HOW TO EXIT THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS 1 Exit the parameter display mode pupa_kid_barra_vert dx 3 5 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION Protected parameters are divided into the following sections Parameters for the reference values 3 6 Parameters for the axis functions 3 7 Interface parameters 3 8 General parameters 3 ...

Page 96: ...ly backwards position 3 Carriage in completely forwards position 4 Short feed gate flag 5 Bar pusher in its completely forwards position 6 Spindle 7 Headstock in its completely backwards position 8 Headstock in its completely forwards position 9 Rest in its completely backwards position 10 Rest in its completely forwards position X Fixed headstock lathe Y Sliding headstock lathe Z Sliding rest lat...

Page 97: ...e front edges of the first feeding carriage in After removal movement and first feeding limit switch position point B no 61 Feeding value x This is the stroke value for the bar loading into the bar pusher collet 60 no 60 First feeding value B XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1720 2070 61 no 61 Feeding value x XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 0 2070 ...

Page 98: ...distance B1C This parameter value should be entered This is the value of point C facing point that is the distance from the short feed gate 12 of the bar feeder and the front edge of the lathe collet 62 no 62 Bush value BO DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABL E VALUE KID KID 2070 32 N 2390 L 2060 LL 1730 37 N 2930 L 2600 LL 2270 44 N 3590 L 3260 LL 2930 63 no 63 Flag to collet distance B1C XXXXX mm inches DE...

Page 99: ... point C after the bar first feeding no 65 Collet facing value C1 The value of this parameter is predefined by the program The number is given by the value of point C in addition to the value of parameter 2 64 no 64 Collet value C XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 2590 65 no 65 Collet facing value CI XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 2590 ...

Page 100: ...this value corresponds to the bar pusher stroke from its completely backwards position to point F This value changes according to the different applications and should be entered by the Installation Technician see default value on the side 66 no 66 Max feeding value F XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 3740 2590 ...

Page 101: ...channel opening max value The value of this parameter is predefined by the program Position of the feeding carriage when the guide channels open 67 no 67 Lubrication stop value L XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABL E VALUE KID KID 2590 32 N 2710 L 2380 LL 2050 37 N 3250 L 2920 LL 2590 44 N 3910 L 3580 LL 3250 68 no 68 Guide channel opening max value XXXX mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE V...

Page 102: ...r feeder sends the last piece machining end signal to the lathe the lathe enters the bar change subprogram and sends the open collet and bar change signals EJECTION ADVANCES Phase 1 Phase 2 Phase 3 Movement to position 0 at low speed and Chk zero position sensor if ok carry on Phase 4 Phase 5 Phase 6 ...

Page 103: ...es PHASE 3 consisting in a slow movement to 0 position in order to check that the 0 position coincides with the 0 Axis sensor S1235 activation Facing jog phase where the machine can carry out the pulses Facing phase END Alarm 11 Wrong facing position The bar feeder sends the cycle i l Phase 7 Phase 8 Phase 6 Bar First Feeding Return ...

Page 104: ...7 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES DESCRIPTION no 69 Maximum bar length This parameter value should be entered Set the max length of bars that are to be loaded 69 n 69 Maximum bar length xxxx mm inches DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID 1200 max 1615 ...

Page 105: ...3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV EN 3 Pag 17 26 ...

Page 106: ...it on again if you want the preset values to be self learned We recommend not to modify these parameters However if a modification is necessary contact IEMCA service department INFORMATION The FCMax subparameter is the maximum value the bar pusher can reach during feeding Therefore these values have to be considered in all the parameters where a speed value may be set 70 no 70 FCMax xxxx mm inches...

Page 107: ... which the bar pusher moves during the bar change cycle in the phases described by B C D E subparameters This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum speed Parameters A Speed reduction during bar change Subparameters B From collet entry slowdown to pulse window end C Pulse backwards D Facing to limit stop E Facing jog 71 no 71 Speed reduction in manual mode DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VAL...

Page 108: ...e by which the bar pusher moves in automatic mode This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum speed Parameters A Speed reduction in automatic mode Subparameters B Collet closed C Collet open 73 no 73 Speed reduction in automatic mode DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID A 0 100 B 20 0 100 C 30 0 100 ...

Page 109: ...ves in manual mode This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum torque Parameters A Torque reduction in manual mode Subparameters B Forwards slowly C Forwards fast D Backwards slowly E Backwards fast 77 n 77 Torque reduction in manual mode DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID A 0 100 B 40 0 100 C 70 0 100 D 70 0 100 E 70 0 100 ...

Page 110: ...ribed by B C D E subparameters This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum torque Parameter A Torque reduction during bar change Subparameters B From collet entry slowdown to pulse window end C Pulse backwards D Facing to limit stop E Facing jog 78 no 78 Torque reduction during bar change DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE KID KID A 0 100 B 40 0 100 C 100 0 100 D 35 0 100 E 50 0 100 ...

Page 111: ...the direction of the controls for the bar pusher movements The setting of this parameter should be done with regards to the position of the keyboard i e if it is on one side or on the opposite side 0 Defines the movements forwards and backwards in both directions 1 Defines the movements forwards and backwards of the opposite directions with regards to 0 79 no 79 Torque reduction in automatic mode ...

Page 112: ...feeding 0 NO 1 NC D Manual return 0 NO 1 NC E Man Aut from lathe 0 NO 1 NC F Loading cycle 0 NO 1 NC G Feeding stop 0 NO 1 NC H Door safety 0 NO 1 NC I Thread safety 0 NO 1 NC L Start from lathe 0 NO 1 NC M Safeties from lathe 0 NO 1 NC N Start up 0 NO 1 NC O Working mode 0 NO 1 NC 85 no 85 Interface signals DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMA BLE VALUE KID KID A 0 0 1 B 0 0 1 C 0 0 1 D 0 0 1 E 0 0 1 F 0 0 1 ...

Page 113: ...ements for example guide channel opening The bar feeder WORKING phase is lost and must be re established the BAR FEEDER WAITING message will be displayed 1 Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe in automatic mode At the first bar feeding signal the bar feeder goes into ALARM mode if it is in manual mode WARNING CAUTION After the MANUAL AUTOMATIC lathe signal is given this safety is not activated if t...

Page 114: ...EN 3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV 3 Pag 26 26 ...

Page 115: ...SSISTANCE REQUEST 2 A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA 3 B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR 4 D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES 8 E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS 9 F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE 11 G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST 12 ...

Page 116: ... assistance request send the list of parameters with the assigned values attachments B C D E F G to IEMCA service department In addition it is necessary to transmit the identification data of the HARDWARE installed in the bar feeder attachment A EXAMPLE OF FILLING IN ...

Page 117: ...ION DATA CPU CARD Model Serial number ENABLING CARD motor drive Model Serial number Above data can be found in the CPU and motor enabling cards which are located in electric board PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA PUSH BUTTON PANEL FIRMWARE Number PUSH BUTTON PANEL SOFTWARE Number PLC CN SOFTWARE Number PLC CN FIRMWARE Number To trace these data see section 2 12 ...

Page 118: ...mm inches 3 Facing mode 0 at limit stop 1 in position 1 Overrun admitted after I 0 mm inches Facing to the limit stop 10 Vmax Facing to the limit stop 35 Cmax 4 Short feeding safety 0 mm inches 5 Long feeding safety 0 mm inches 6 Piece length 0 mm inches 7 Open collet speed 30 Vmax 9 Open collet thrust delay 0 Sec 10 Closed collet thrust delay 0 Sec 11 Collet entry slowdown 200 mm inches 12 Collet...

Page 119: ...ulses on time 0 5 0 5 Sec 19 Spindle pulses off time 0 5 0 5 Sec 20 Cycle start delay 0 0 Sec 21 Remnant handling 0 safety 1 ejection 2 bar change advance no first feeding 3 bar change advance no facing 0 0 22 Open collet timeout 0 0 Sec 23 Piece timeout 0 0 Sec 25 Bar feeding handling 0 end of feeding with bar change 1 end of feeding with K1 1 1 26 Pieces before lathe stop 0 0 0 27 Minutes before...

Page 120: ...activated 1 with open collet K1 activated 0 33 K2 Inversion 0 K2 is on 1 at limit stop 1 K2 is on 0 at limit stop 0 34 Feeding torque 40 Cmax 35 Fixed piece feeding 0 at the limit stop 1 at fixed values 2 fixed values thr at limit stop 0 Position Speed 76200 Acceleration 100 Deceleration 100 36 K15 disabling 0 K15 included 1 K15 excluded 1 37 K15 duration 2 sec 38 K13 duration 2 sec 39 Spindle sto...

Page 121: ...n Default value Allocated value Unit of measuremen t KID IV 43 Speed change in first feeding 0 slow 1 fast 1 Speed 1 9144 Mm m Speed 2 48000 Acceleration 100 Deceleration 10 44 Axis operation Bar pusher stop with closed collet 0 the bar pusher stop is off 1 the bar pusher stop is on 0 Axis stop engagement delay 1 sec Closed collet torque 10 Cmax ...

Page 122: ...lue Allocated value Unit of measurement KID IV 60 First feeding value B 1720 mm inches 61 Feeding value x mm inches 62 Bush value BO 2270 mm inches 63 Flag collet distance B1C 1400 mm inches 64 Collet value C mm inches 65 Collet facing value CI mm inches 66 Maximum feeding value F 3740 mm inches 67 Lubrication stop value L 2590 mm inches 68 Guide channel opening max value mm inches 69 Maximum bar ...

Page 123: ...during bar change From collet entry slowdown to pulse window end 6 0 Vmax Pulse backwards 20 0 Vmax Facing to the limit stop 10 0 Vmax Facing jog 28 0 Vmax 73 Speed reduction in automatic mode Clamp closed 20 Vmax Open collet 30 Vmax 77 Torque reduction in manual mode Cmax Forwards slowly 40 Cmax Forwards fast 70 Cmax Backwards slowly 70 Cmax Backwards fast 70 Cmax 78 Torque reduction during bar c...

Page 124: ...EN 5 ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV 5 Pag 10 12 PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS Par No Parameter description Default value Allocated value Unit of measureme nt KID IV 84 Keyboard on the opposite side 0 ...

Page 125: ...ated value Unit of measureme nt KID IV 85 Interface signals Bar change 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man feeding 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man return 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man aut from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding cycle 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding stop 0 NO 1 NC 0 0 Door safety devices 0 NO 1 NC 1 Threading safety device 0 NO 1 NC 0 Start from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 0 Safety devices from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 1 Sturtup 0 NO 1 NC 0 Working mod...

Page 126: ...o Parameter description Default value Allocated value Unit of measure ment KID IV 89 Fair Demo 0 turned off 1 turned on 0 90 Wrong bar feeder phase 0 K37 active with closed guide channels in manual mode 1 Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe in automatic mode 0 98 Indicators only on touch 99 SMS service only on touch 100 E MAIL service only on touch ...

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