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Cantar-X  User Manual v2.44 (r14)   2013 March 21 

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The boom and RF mics  

The boom, connected to M5, is directly routed to T8 (see 

Create T7T8 IN-GRIDS

, p.28).  The RF-mics, routed to T1–T6 

(auto-panned to the left), go to mix Xa on T7.  

Proper Mixing 

Mark Weber to Cantar Users’ Group,  May 3, 2008  

Are you all saying that we should not be mixing just because we 

are providing ISO tracks on mono files?  As a mixer it is my assump-

tion that my job is to mix so that phase anomalies are not occurring 

and mixing out unwanted open mics so that a useful production mix 

is always present and if post wants ISO mic tracks then that is what 

I deliver on top of the mix.What am I missing here? 

Phase interferences are only audible at specific relationships be-

tween pairs of microphones and at a specific balance between 

them, usually a 50/50 balance as with boom and radio mic.  If 

three mics are open, the phase interference is a result of only one 

of those mics in reference to the other two.  Assuming I am mixing 

to a mono track with one boom and one radio and at a certain 

point there is phasing, I would be rocking the mix back and forth 

favoring either the boom or radio.  If the phasing occurs when both 

mics are at unity then I never allow unity to occur.  As a wired actor 

walks into a room and comes forward approaching a boom mic, 

I would be favoring the radio until the actor steps into the sweet 

spot of the boom at which point I would crossfade, potting down 

the radio as I pot up  the boom. This does not necessarily mean 

that I completely turn off either mic at any time but only prevent the 

50/50 balance of the two from occurring, or maybe once the ac-

tor reaches the boom sweet spot and stays there for the rest of the 

take then perhaps I slowly fade out the radio mic completely, to 

prevent clothing rustle or some other physical noise.  

Same thing if mixing two actors on radios with no boom and as 

they turn to face each other there is a phasing taking place be-

tween  them,  then  I  would  be  crossfading  the  balance  between 

them back and forth favoring the mic of the actor that is speaking, 

again  never  allowing  the  50/50  balance  to  occur  but  always 

keeping  both  mics  open  unless  some  action  creates  a  problem 

like someone pounding themselves on the chest where the mic is 

placed. Always 60/40 or 75/25 or whatever works.  Maybe as 

the two actors stand very close to each other one of their mics may 

work to cover both of them.

Now if mixing to two tracks and splitting boom away from the ra-

dios then I monitor the split track mix in mono and do all the same 

things as mentioned above so that if the two tracks are summed 

together by telecine for dailies or elsewhere in post the resulting 

mono mix works perfectly.  

I  hate  to  allow  post  the  opportunity  to  screw  up  my  mixes  so  I 

always try not to give them the option.  If there is no reason to split 

tracks then I do not do it. 
Mark Weber C.A.S. / Sound Specialist Inc.   Miami, Florida 

Mixdown on track one and two  

The track renumbring during Idle Bckp backup lets you put 
the mixdown on the lower rank filetags, thee examples be-
low   

#1 

Single-mix on TR1

, select 

Input/Xb+

 in T7T8 InGrids,

 

inputs         Mic1  Mic2  Lin1  Lin2  Digi1  Mic4  Mic5   

                /    /     /     /     /     /      /   

tracks         T1   T2   T3    T4    T5    T6     T7    T8 > modulo

              /    /     /     /     /     /      /     @   

sliders       #1   #2    #3    #4    #5   #6     /(#7)* /

              \     \     \     \     \    \    /      /

auto-pan R  .  \_____\_____\_____\_____\____\___\____>Xb+  

           .    .     .     .     .     .     .      .       

renamed   .    .     .     .     .     .     .      .

filetags _2    _3    _4    _5    _6    _7    _8    _1    

Recommended settings for this example:
BACKUP 01 'mode', select 

Idle Bckp  

BACKUP 03 'Track Select', select 

T1_T8 + T8T8

  

BACKUP 04 'Treatment', select 

MonoRotate1

  

BACKUP 05 'T7T8 treatment', select 

Poly Native

 

You get Monophonics ABC123_N.wav in AAL folders for NLEs.
_1 (Xa)  _2 (.)  _3 (..)  _4 (.)  _5 (.)  _6 (.)  _7 (.)  _8 (.)  and a 
Polyphonic ABC123PX.wav in AAX folders for FOSTEX-824s. 

Q: Why this T8T8 duplication? 

 

A: the Director will not complain one of his TV monitor loudspeakers is dead. 

#2 

Mix & Boom on TR1 TR2

,

 select 

Xa+/Mic5

 in T7T8 InGrids.     

inputs        Mic1  Mic2 Lin1 Lin2 Digi1  Mic4     Mic5 (boom)  

                /    /    /    /     /   /           \

tracks        T1    T2   T3   T4   T5   T6    T7     T8 > modulos

              /    /    /    /     /   /      @      /   

sliders      #1   #2   #3   #4   #5   #6      /     /(#8)*

              \    \    \    \    \    \     /     /

auto-pan L  .  \____\____\____\____\____\__>Xa+<__/

           .    .    .    .    .    .      .     .       

renamed   .    .    .    .    .    .      .     .

filetags _3   _4   _5   _6   _7   _8     _1    _2   

#3

 

MixL & MixR on TR1 TR2

, select 

Xa/Xb

 in T7T8 InGrids.

inputs          Mic1  Mic2  Lin1  Lin2  Digi1  Mic4      

                 /     /     /     /     /     /           

tracks         T1    T2    T3    T4    T5    T6    T7    T8 > modulo

               /     /     /     /     /     /      @     @   

sliders       #1    #2    #3    #4    #5    #6      /     /

               \     \     \     \     \     \     /     /

pan L/R     .   \_____\_____\_____\_____\_____\__>Xa __>Xb 

           .     .     .     .     .     .       .     .       

renamed   .     .     .     .     .     .       .     .

filetags _3    _4    _5    _6    _7    _8     _1    _2   

Recommended settings for these examples: 
BACKUP 01 'mode', select 

Idle Bckp

  

BACKUP 03 'Track Select', select 

T1--T8 + T7T8

 

BACKUP 04 'Treatment', select 

MonoRotate2

 

BACKUP 05 'T7T8 treatment', select 

PolyNative

You get Monophonics ABC123_N.wav in AAL folders for NLEs 
_1 (Xa)  _2 (Xb or boom)  _3 (.)  _4 (.)  _5 (.)  _6 (.)  _7 (.)  _8 
(.), and a Polyphonic ABC123PX.wav two track mix in AAX 
folders for FOSTEX-824s. 

Cantarem option, see p.28 for Xa/Xa+, Xb/Xb+ selection.

TUTORIAL   

ONBOARD MIXER  [2] 

Summary of Contents for Cantar-X1

Page 1: ...r a c k 7 b o o m t o t ra c k 8 p 28 t a p e r e f g o e s t o l t c u b i t s p 3 2 w i l d a l l a n d t r i o p d f r e p o r t s p 3 8 e d i t o r f r i e n d l y r o t a t e1 2 p 39 s t e r e o...

Page 2: ...t Foldback level p 18 Check In Grids Out Maps p 18 Play Rec rehearsal p 18 PPR Pre Post Record Pre recording buffer p 19 Sc Take Track names p 19 TapeRef Post rec metadata edit p 20 File splitting p 2...

Page 3: ...stored in AAL AAM folders Track names stored as aTRK name for Avid MCs monophonic import v4 up Track names inserted in T1 T8 columns of ALE lists v2 30 Sept 2009 Line out Foldback mute in PLAY Up to...

Page 4: ...faders mixdown devoted to one spe cific task are faster to handle than multi function knobs For desert or high seas work all of the mechanical actuators are sandproof and waterproof DESCRIPTION TOP V...

Page 5: ...you can grab the caddy The CF caddy is held by spring tension only and the A screw is not used DESCRIPTION BOTTOM VIEW Rules about FireWire FW connection the cable retainer should be used at all times...

Page 6: ...ssure displays battery voltage long pressure puts battery on duty shift batt in STOP turns OFF Cantar Headphones 1 4 jack in an isolated compartment To facilitate extraction of a right angle 1 4 jack...

Page 7: ...gives instant sequential access to all of them note the routing button must be pressed to change the out maps as a protection against wild modifications in grids can t be changed in the course of a r...

Page 8: ...sible in very bright sunlight to save backlight power see TECHSET 05 Backlight p 33 Rectangular screen Operating positions p 10 In STOP top row batt L batt R voltage middle row system time bottom row...

Page 9: ...ect the In Grids PUSH the SoloMidPan slider to the battery side and press or click in click out the routing button The silver config crown gives sequential access to fifteen In Grids the last in use i...

Page 10: ...fter routing opens routing creation future in PLAY goes to Operator s record markers shift silver in REC triggers AutoSlate detection in PPR toggles take editor PREV NEXT take in TEST opens LEVEL DELA...

Page 11: ...Alert level TECHSET 14 15 p 34 This allows the simultaneous use of a NiMH battery with alert set to 10 8V and a Li Ion battery with alert set to 14 2V Upon reaching the alert level a two beep alarm is...

Page 12: ...is named for the date e g 20041206 AAD see Calender Time p 13 If the isolated ISO tracks must be interleaved before import into crippled editing machines in need of polyphonic files Cantar builds an...

Page 13: ...to TEST Sync Time At startup you will notice a blinking int c or ext c icon depending upon the master internal clock or slave external clock mode selected in AUDIO TC 15 Tc Source This blinking icon r...

Page 14: ...se the pre record buffer without creating TC overlaps For example if the preceding take ends at 01 45 00 and the pre record buf fer is set at thirteen seconds the next audio file will start at 01 45 0...

Page 15: ...me have been spent trying to find a universal method to sync sound and images on the slow planet but nothing came out You must ask your post facility which one of the following three sample stamp mode...

Page 16: ...n linked channels the same limiter command is applied to ganged preamps Inversion Press shift lim inv 1 to invert the mic s phase A triangle appears below the mic number on the middle circular screen...

Page 17: ...o Locked balance adjust ments will only be accessible while pressing the fil tom button The slaved gain value is displayed with I signs showing in which direction you should rotate the fader to avoid...

Page 18: ...ut path of the Sennheiser transmitters to avoid oscillation and noise generation Check and select the routings In TEST PPR and REC depending on the SoloMidPan slider position the routing button activa...

Page 19: ...ying the sequence or scene ID causes the take to reset to 1 and the take gender to t The rectangular screen displays the filetag of the NEXT recording 2 Comments jog to Tk Comment and press ok to acti...

Page 20: ...ry long periods with out interruption but you don t want files larger than 4GB Cantar automatically closes the file and starts a new one four settings are available 260MB e g 1 track for 30 min 24 bit...

Page 21: ...the breaks since Cantar waits for three seconds to validate the new LTC then goes to REC while splicing the preceding three second audio stored in the pre record buffer If you want to continue the rec...

Page 22: ...phasing and differential delays Locking the Fader Surface Press the link lock 3 button between mic1 2 faders to dis able the mixer s linear faders press the button between mic3 4 to dis able all rota...

Page 23: ...ADR1 Route the digital inputs carrying the playback tracks the an alog inputs are recorded in the standard way To reach the play cards three methods Standalone shift browses the play files browses the...

Page 24: ...lay take your time while passing over stop if the message you were too fast appears go back to stop for one second Play card creation read p 48 p 49 1 Go to BLUE PLAY note1 then shift to choose a Play...

Page 25: ...ter http www dekorte com proj ects shareware SoundConverter Live Clone Play Rec tutorial p 48 Go to BLUE BRWS 21 TC mode Live gives access to all available play files The recording session uses the da...

Page 26: ...B 07 Record beeps 08 Clip detection beep 09 Lack of ext clock beep 10 11 Beep routing level 12 Meter speed 13 Peak hold duration 14 15 BatL BatR alert 16 HD Power Down 17 Serial Com port 18 Factory Re...

Page 27: ...To route mic1 to T1 jog five positions and put the blinking cursor facing mic 1 link with the black button to route line1 to T5 jog the cursor through T2 T3 and T4 until you land on T5 odd tracks are...

Page 28: ...er The AES converters translate any incoming AES sample rate e g 44 1kHz to Cantar s selected sam pling rate e g 48000Hz More tracks by wordclock Cantar X2 only To impose a sampling rate phase to Cant...

Page 29: ...ogs on the inner ring of the circular screen it points out the input to be possibly routed to the left both right ears To link the desired input press the black button The M S case For an m s recorded...

Page 30: ...camera featuring AES inputs or to a Lectrosonics D4 transmitter or to a video camera equipped with an AES to Analog converter The eight AES outputs are separated into two groups The Digi 1 6 outputs...

Page 31: ...tion gain In 6dB mode the 0dB mark is the indentation in the linear faders guide rails 08 PreRec Dur ation 1 to 35 sec Up to 35s 8 tracks 24 bit 48k 17s 96k 09 Bal Access Unlocked Locked Slaved fader...

Page 32: ...e TapeRef e g E89A displayed as 00 00 E8 9A on standard LTC readers and smart slates 4 Copy of the PPR s ASCII characters keyed in TapeRef 0 9 A Z e g XR89 Warning these characters can only be dis pla...

Page 33: ...s Setup it is named by the last recorded filetag e g AB1234 A xml Since you can use them in another Cantar copy your favorite User s Setups onto a laptop before returning a rented machine re importin...

Page 34: ...o save power let the HD go to sleep in the STOP position the three platter icon blinks To wake it up go to TEST it will be up to speed within three to ten seconds the pre record buffer hides the drive...

Page 35: ...ptop A3 Connect a FireWire cable to the Cantar FW socket while it is unpowered p 5 then power on A4 Unmount the internal HD in TECHSET 01 then connect the FireWire cable to the laptop The Cantar HD ic...

Page 36: ...ment and unscrew the shuttle Connect it to Cantar as an external drive This is a strong protection from accidental erasure of the internal drive by idle fingers To format larger than 127 GB drives rea...

Page 37: ...only Select Day ok jog to select a day ok the bottom line displays ScanningDay then the cursor jumps to Day Eraser jog to select Int HD or Ext HD ok jog to Yes nnnMB ok Once the day s files have been...

Page 38: ...eld 200 char max is used as the take separator Disarmed tracks carry no track name Paper size is unified 21x27 2 cm to fit both A4 and Letter formats note on some Mac firmware you must open the PDFs w...

Page 39: ...the caddy s red LED is ON Prep Polys To speed up Run Bckp at the end of the session Prep Polys take advantage of the idle periods to perform polyphonic treatments and to store the resulting poly file...

Page 40: ...urning it 08 FilesToCopy All Unarchived Select All to make a second batch of DVDs with all files previously copied or not Select Unarchived before starting a DVD mid day copy this causes the software...

Page 41: ...lets you see the size of the files to be copied then you leave with ok Run Backup writes three forms of Sound Report once the backup is completed 1 ready to print PDF 2 tab delimited CSV and 3 Avid A...

Page 42: ...s when backing up files depending on their treatment they are stored in different folders Direct mono go to AAD Native poly go to AAN Rotate poly go to AAR and miX go to AAX p 39 p 40 Idle Bckp comple...

Page 43: ...onnected Majax put the Cantar CPU in its TECHSET 01 Unmount ed state External DVD If an external DVD burner containing a blank disk is FireWire connected and if there is no media in the internal burne...

Page 44: ...mat stereo monitoring with adjustment of the pattern and width Routing Connect the Soundfield ST350 X output to line1 T5 Y to lin2 T6 T5 T6 m s declared and W to line3 T4 panned to center The Mic or L...

Page 45: ...s on the chest where the mic is placed Always 60 40 or 75 25 or whatever works Maybe as the two actors stand very close to each other one of their mics may work to cover both of them Now if mixing to...

Page 46: ...sent through Line out or Digi out to the camera s A1 A2 audio tracks to let the Director immediately verify the last take and to later look at the day s rushes Because of a MediaComposer limitation wh...

Page 47: ...ata then uses the timecode in and out points to finish the job with Pyramix you don t even need to use Titan D Autosync editing with the Cantar ISO tracks Correlated to the Video TC of the images the...

Page 48: ...mix also lets you insert a simultaneous transla tion of the dialog ADR 2 While listening to the guide track text or prere corded music the performers record their dialog or song alongside the guide tr...

Page 49: ...To update old style files see p 25 Rehearsal As soon as blue test is activated the playback tracks Tp1 to Tp6 are internally sent to the digi1 8 inputs from where they are routed the standard way see...

Page 50: ...s tail generates a timecode over lap with the next original take To get a clone of the same exact length as the original same srart and stop TC go to BLUE PPR and trigger the recording with the keyboa...

Page 51: ...turns blue double click to deactivate To set the inputs for T7T8 first click the desired T7 cross point it turns yellow as well as the other possible choice s click the other one they both turn blue...

Page 52: ...ers TECHSET Save Setup stores the saved parameters in the Cantar memory Sound report A PDF CSV sound report builder is implemented PDFs from Tarkan save time at wrap TCP IP Disable the firewall on a M...

Page 53: ...track1 track2 track3 track4 track5 track6 line out foldback The assigned fader is the one displayed just before releasing the key note Cantarem no longer links lines1 2 or lines3 4 a greater choice i...

Page 54: ...ther keep them pressed until Formatting appears Done is displayed when finished The one platter icon appears on the right circular screen to indicate the CF card is ready for use Press ok or go to STO...

Page 55: ...ick the desired one 4 Connect the latest Cantar ID will show at next connection 5 Status for maintenance engineers Working Screens See the complete Arcan w user s instructions on http www aa ton com p...

Page 56: ...ras on the set During image import the NLE extracts this Audio TC to Autosync images and audio p 46 Emergency master clock Turn ON GMT press the white button to initialize the clock from hour 01 The d...

Page 57: ...works with OS X 10 4 only To get a v10 6 update mail to support softarch com In a Mac equipped with an E SuperDrive replace it with a genuine Matshita UJ 875 or connect a standalone DVD RAM burner or...

Page 58: ...l 10dBu out 18dBFS on track most digi cameras line in level is 10dBu not 0dBu line out 1 stereo Left 1 Gnd 2 Hot 3 Cold line out 2 stereo Right 1 Gnd 4 Hot 5 Cold Foldback TA 3 M Mini XLR3 Asymmetrica...

Page 59: ...must to drive Penelope cameras with 14 2V low batt warning The Camera battery housing 3 carries a retaining lug and a 10A fuse protected Lemo6 socket for high peak current accessories e g follow focu...

Page 60: ...ef 04 280 20 lug and Lemo6 socket for Penelope To trigger the charging cycle press the square button for about four seconds until the control LED turns off then release it Battery charge LED status 2h...

Page 61: ...ar battery ref 20 110 55 rear post no Lemo6 socket Two hour charge to 90 plus one hour top up Battery charge status Green colored LED Charging Charged Red colored LED Faulty No batt Technical Specific...

Page 62: ...ove the track fader you want to Arm Disarm p 18 12 AutoSlate Press shift silver within six seconds after each slate clap The slates generated by a multi camera shoot are labeled SA SB SC etc up to 7 p...

Page 63: ...the battery Press routing then rotate the silver config crown p 9 to select a preset Press routing to retain the choice p 18 30 Output Maps In TEST or PPR pull the SoloMidPan slider toward the Operat...

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