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FC2860TLD-3160TLD-3560TLD

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11. - Maintenance and storage

KN281CGB_L

Mower conditioner

- Prior to reassembly, coat surface (4) with graphite

grease.

- Use exclusively KUHN original parts.

5 spare bolts are supplied with the machine.

- Check the shearing bolt class.

- Check the shearing bolt class: 10.9

- Fit the new screw (5).

• Torque: 2.5 daNm (18.5 lbf ft).

KIT (3x ) : K6015030

10.9

2.5 daN m (18.5 lbf ft)

50079400

Summary of Contents for FC2860TLD

Page 1: ...Original instructions KN281CGB_L Read carefully before starting the machine Operator s manual Mower conditioner C0001 C9999 FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD KN281CGB_L English 10 2018 KN281CGB_L...

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Page 3: ...y KEEP THIS MANUAL AVAILABLE FOR REFERENCE Pass it on to the next owner if you re sell the machine Your KUHN dealer can offer a complete line of genuine KUHN service parts These parts are manufactured...

Page 4: ...Hydraulic circuit 15 4 2 8 Remote controlled components 15 4 2 9 Precautions when driving 16 4 2 10 Precautions when driving on public roads 16 4 2 11 Maximum speed 17 4 2 12 Tyres 18 4 2 13 Precauti...

Page 5: ...r 35 6 2 3 Coupling the machine 36 6 2 4 Hydraulic connections 38 6 2 5 Electrical connections 38 6 2 6 Fit the check chains 38 6 2 7 Primary PTO shaft 39 6 2 8 Intermediate PTO shaft 41 6 2 9 Adjusti...

Page 6: ...nd storage 70 11 1 Frequency chart 70 11 2 Cleaning the machine 71 11 3 Lubrication 72 11 3 1 PTO shafts 72 11 3 2 Grease 75 11 3 3 Draining 75 11 4 Maintenance 79 11 4 1 Checking the oil levels 79 11...

Page 7: ...3 Identification of the machine FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 7 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner 3 Identification of the machine 3 1 Front view 3 2 Rear view...

Page 8: ...Number 4 Weight According to the country of destination additional plates can be fitted on the machine For machines aimed at countries which are members of the European Union EC marking 5 Manufacturin...

Page 9: ...conditioner 3 4 Optional equipment Tick box corresponding to the equipment fitted on your machine Check chains Lifters 1 3 8 21 spline yoke Intermediate PTO transmission shaft with constant velocity...

Page 10: ...This symbol indicates a potentially hazardous situation that if not avoided could result in serious bodily injury This symbol is used to identify special instructions or procedures which if not follow...

Page 11: ...y use other than the designated operation is at the risk and responsibility of the operator The manufacturer is not held liable for any damage or accident resulting from machine modifications carried...

Page 12: ...Never stand between the tractor and the machine when operating the three point linkage Do not stand between the machine and the tractor or on the machine without having first applied the tractor parki...

Page 13: ...Ensure that the PTO shaft is always correctly fitted and locked into place Before connecting the PTO shaft ensure that the PTO speed rotational frequency and direction of rotation are in line with th...

Page 14: ...36 mm 1 42 8 85 mm 3 35 3 35 mm 1 378 21 85 mm 3 35 4 45 mm 1 772 20 100 mm 4 00 5 44 mm 1 732 6 100 mm 4 00 When uncoupling the machine rest the PTO shaft on the support specially provided and replac...

Page 15: ...be replaced every 5 years Damaged or worn hoses must immediately be replaced When replacing the hydraulic hoses only use hoses with the specification recommended by the manufacturer of the machine To...

Page 16: ...achine is operating Carrying people or animals on the machine when working or in transport is strictly forbidden 4 2 10 Precautions when driving on public roads Dimensions Depending on the dimensions...

Page 17: ...ine on public roads place the machine into its transport position according to the instructions in this manual Lights and indicators Before transporting the machine on public roads ensure that all leg...

Page 18: ...ome caught up in moving parts Wear the appropriate protective clothing for the work in hand gloves shoes goggles helmet ear defenders etc Ensure that all operating controls ropes cables rods etc are p...

Page 19: ...place any worn damaged or missing cover Before engaging the PTO rest the cutterbar on the ground Make sure all the guards are in place Keep all persons and animals away from the danger zone Stay a saf...

Page 20: ...r windows or install narrow mesh guards on their exterior Increase the cutting height to avoid contact with stones or rocks Even when the machine is used in accordance with its purpose objects may be...

Page 21: ...t Also disconnect alternator and battery terminals Repairs on elements under pressure or tension springs pressure accumulators etc must only be carried out by competent persons with regulation equipme...

Page 22: ...unity EAC marking 134139 Specific requirements for countries member of the Eurasian Economic Community EAC marking 133983 Specific requirements for countries member of the Eurasian Economic Community...

Page 23: ...4 Safety FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 23 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner 4 3 Location and description of safety decals on the machine 4 3 1 Location of safety decals 1 2 3 GB CE 3 4 GB CE 4 5 5 5 5 6...

Page 24: ...ng the tractor or before adjusting maintaining or repairing the machine disengage the PTO drive turn off the engine remove ignition key and wait until all moving parts have come to a complete stop and...

Page 25: ...ine operation only use original manufacturer parts 4 4 Road safety equipment and recommendations The road safety equipment is mounted in the factory or by your authorized Kuhn dealer according to curr...

Page 26: ...The side device comprises 3 amber reflectors 1 on each machine side The front safety device comprises 2 signalling panels 1 2 white lights 2 2 white reflectors 3 4 4 1 Tyre pressure Tyre inflation pre...

Page 27: ...system for locking the lift arms laterally and vertically To drive on roads respect the attachment height specified in the operator s manual and lock the lift linkage 4 5 Likely critical failures 1339...

Page 28: ...of the Eurasian Economic Community EAC marking 139867 Specific requirements for countries member of the Eurasian Economic Community EAC marking 134002 Specific requirements for countries member of the...

Page 29: ...itioner 5 Machine specifications 5 1 Description and glossary 1 Drawbar 2 Toolbox 3 Document box 4 Primary PTO shaft 5 Drawbar shift cylinder 6 Swathing and wide spreading 7 Wheel 8 Side guard 9 Front...

Page 30: ...FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 30 5 Machine specifications KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner 0 1 Cutterbar 2 Disk 3 High cone disc kit 4 Side gearbox 5 Conditioning lever adjustment 5 1 4 2 3...

Page 31: ...l chocks 5 1 1 Designated use of the machine The FC2860TLD FC3160TLD FC3560TLD mower conditioner must only be used for the work for which it has been designed mowing on the ground of hay fields grass...

Page 32: ...8 5 3 00 m 9 10 3 40 m 11 2 Height in transport position 1 76 m 5 9 1 78 m 5 10 1 78 m 5 10 Length in transport position 5 97 m 19 7 6 74 m 22 1 6 74 m 22 1 Disc rotational speed 2900 min Rotor speed...

Page 33: ...the machine in case of a linkage device loss or breakage during transport 5 4 Sound levels Sound levels have been measured in accordance with the measuring methods as defined in NF EN ISO 4254 1 Agric...

Page 34: ...nts The machine is supplied with a 13 mm spanner 1 for unlocking the greasing covers The machine is supplied with an 18 mm box wrench 2 to carry out certain adjustment and maintenance tasks The machin...

Page 35: ...France A hose that controls the mowing unit raising lowering Two hydraulic hoses controlling the drawbar shift cylinder A 7 pin electric plug for the electrical signalling equipment 6 2 2 Preparing th...

Page 36: ...t a speed of 1000 min 1 The tractor must be equipped with 1 double acting hydraulic outlet 1 single acting hydraulic outlet Hitch pin parallelism Adjust tractor lift rods so that hitch pins are parall...

Page 37: ...Putting into service FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 37 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner The machine adapts to tractors fitted with a 3 point hitch coupler category 2 a or 3N b Secure with lynch pins a b 1 1 1...

Page 38: ...place a 6 2 4 Hydraulic connections Connect the 2 hydraulic hoses of the drawbar shift cylinder to a double acting valve 1 Connect the mowing unit lift cylinder to a single acting valve 2 6 2 5 Electr...

Page 39: ...m to the machine s input shaft and to the tractor PTO stub Check the length of the PTO shaft When the PTO shaft is in its maximum overlap position retracted tubes should not butt against the yokes The...

Page 40: ...rate the PTO shaft at an angle X exceeding 30 To avoid serious accidents the PTO drive shaft guards must be properly in place and fixed with the chains provided On machine side attach PTO shaft guard...

Page 41: ...ing or repairing the machine turn off ignition key and wait until all moving parts have come to a complete stop Friction slip clutch The secondary PTO transmission shaft is fitted with a friction slip...

Page 42: ...L Mower conditioner Remove 6 bolts 1 Uncouple the intermediate u joint drive shaft 1 on the friction slip clutch side Loosen nuts to release friction discs a Let the friction discs slip for a few seco...

Page 43: ...rive elements The springs must never be coil bound Loosen at least by 1 2 turn The friction slip clutch is ready to function couple the intermediate u joint drive shaft 1 on the friction slip clutch s...

Page 44: ...ing the machine Lateral adjustment of the lower links Balance the play on either sides of the lift linkage and lock lower link stabilizers Frame height and check chains Lower tractor lift linkage to o...

Page 45: ...er conditioner If the machine is fitted with check chains According to the country of destination Attach check chains supplied with the machine to the upper free hole of the tractor s top link attachm...

Page 46: ...t nobody is within the machine pivoting area If there is someone make sure the person moves away 7 1 Transport position The machine is in transport position when the following instructions have been r...

Page 47: ...Mower conditioner 7 2 Putting the machine into transport position From the working position Activate single acting valve to raise the mowing unit Activate the double acting valve to pivot the drawbar...

Page 48: ...ioner Shut off mowing unit lift cylinder lock valves 2 Opened position 1 Closed position 2 7 2 1 Side guards Left side Up to serial number C0402 Release and lift side guard using 18mm box spanner supp...

Page 49: ...rwards a and lift it b The side guard automatically locks in raised position Right side Pull handle 1 to unlock right side guard 2 Lower side guard The side guard is automatically locked in the lowere...

Page 50: ...and mowing unit lift cylinder lock valves are shut off Immediately replace any worn or damaged signalling panels or lights Regularly check the tyre pressure In certain countries the machine exceeds th...

Page 51: ...eone make sure the person moves away 8 1 Putting the machine into work position From the transport position 8 1 1 Side guards Left side Up to serial number C0402 Pull handle 1 to unlock left side guar...

Page 52: ...de guard is automatically locked in the lowered position Open drawbar shift cylinder lock valve Open the mowing unit lift cylinder lock valves Activate the double acting valve to pivot the drawbar in...

Page 53: ...y is within the machine pivoting area If there is someone make sure the person moves away Wait until the rotating parts have come to a complete stop 8 2 1 Cutting height Place the machine on flat grou...

Page 54: ...5 85 mm 3 3 To adjust the cutting height Lift lock 2 Turn clockwise to reduce cutting height a Turn counter clockwise to increase the cutting height b Lower lock 2 The maximum cutting height L1 85 mm...

Page 55: ...he hitch pins are at the proper height H 650 mm 26 Raise the mowing unit The force F must be of approximately 60 daN 135 lbf on each side The pressure must be adapted to the nature and moisture degree...

Page 56: ...iculties in adjusting the mowing unit ground pressure it may be necessary to adjust the ground pressure system s torsion bars See maintenance and storage chapter 8 2 3 Finger conditioning rotor speed...

Page 57: ...machine turn off ignition key and wait until all moving parts have come to a complete stop Several factors govern the conditioning intensity adjustment Conditioning rotor speed See section Finger cond...

Page 58: ...comprises 2 swath shields Swath width adjustment Press lock 1 to release the handle Lift handle 2 Pivot swath shields inwards to reduce the swath width a Pivot swath shields outwards to increase the...

Page 59: ...hood can be pivoted according to the forage density in order to improve the swath delivery and structure Loosen butterfly nut 1 Pivot hood a Tighten butterfly nut 1 Repeat procedure until required res...

Page 60: ...to release the handle Lift handle 2 Pivot swath shield until lock engages in hole 3 Remove swath shield 1 Proceed the same way on the other side Raise swath shield 1 on the drawbar Insert shield hood...

Page 61: ...reading device 2 Lock the wide spreading device using the screw and tighten wing nut 1 Tip cover 1 over the wide spreading device This step allows preventing premature wear of the cover as well as a r...

Page 62: ...re attached Check that nobody is within the machine pivoting area If there is someone make sure the person moves away Before the machine engages the crop Engage the tractor PTO drive and accelerate pr...

Page 63: ...airly level ground Preferably park the machine in transport position with the mowing unit resting on the ground Activate single acting valve to lower the mowing unit on the ground Lower and lock parki...

Page 64: ...KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner Uncouple and place PTO shaft in support 1 Disconnect and store hydraulic hoses on holder 2 Disconnect and store 7 pin plug in its holder 3 Release the lower links Lower t...

Page 65: ...nt 10 1 Check chains Check chains allow tractor lift linkage stabilization and ensure a fixed frame height The check chains allow keeping control of the machine in case of a linkage device loss or bre...

Page 66: ...shaft with constant velocity joint 10 5 Raised skid shoes adjustable in height The raised skid shoes allow mowing higher between 55 mm 2 17 and 150 mm 5 91 10 5 1 Adjustments Raised skid shoes The ski...

Page 67: ...must be made with the machine coupled hitch pins at 650 mm 26 from the ground Cutting height is always adjusted before adjusting the ground pressure The adjustment is centralized by means of the pitch...

Page 68: ...ing height can lead to Excessive disc and knife wear Crop being contaminated by soil Delay in regrowth Risk of tearing out the grass cover in wet conditions With skid shoes in high position The maximu...

Page 69: ...10 Optional equipment FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 69 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner 10 7 SMV sign To conform with the regulation in force in the country a warning sign can be fitted on the machine...

Page 70: ...oving parts have come to a complete stop 11 1 Frequency chart Maintenance intervals are indicated for normal conditions of use After the first 30 hours of use Every 20 hours 1 time per month during th...

Page 71: ...clean the build up between the conditioning hood and the support tube Unlock and lift front guard using 18 box spanner supplied with the machine Raise protection cover 1 Clean After the first 30 hours...

Page 72: ...itioner Lower and lock front guards 11 3 Lubrication Clean grease nipples before greasing Lubricate with multi purpose grease grade NLGI 2 11 3 1 PTO shafts Before first use Grease the transmission In...

Page 73: ...ansmission tube 2 Guide rings 3 Universal joint assembly b Every 50 hours universal joints 1 Intermediate PTO shaft 1 c Every 20 hours universal joints 1 transmission tube 2 Guide rings 3 Primary PTO...

Page 74: ...ioner Intermediate PTO shaft 1 c Loosen screw 1 Pivot cover 2 to access greaser Grease Grease PTO shaft U joint Drive shaft tubes Reinstall cover plate Loosen screw 1 Pivot cover 2 to access greaser G...

Page 75: ...160TLD 3560TLD 75 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner 11 3 2 Grease The drawbar pivot pin 1 Rod 2 Pivot pins 3 Drawbar shift cylinder 11 3 3 Draining Cutterbar The cutter bar is lubricated for life and does...

Page 76: ...1 06 US gal Viscosity 75W90 Specification API GL5 extreme pressure From the transport position Unlock and raise side guards Using two wedges of different height rest the cutterbar higher on opposite...

Page 77: ...l mineral oil or a synthetic oil of type PAO Poly Alpha Olefine with viscosity grade SAE 75W90 Oil volume 2 7 L 0 71 US gal Viscosity SAE 75W90 Specification API GL5 extreme pressure Remove filler plu...

Page 78: ...place if necessary The Gyrodine gearbox Before draining oil operate the machine for a few minutes so that the oil warms up FC2860TLD FC3160TLD FC3560TLD Type of oil Gear oil When changing the oil it i...

Page 79: ...ary Pour the recommended oil quantity and quality through the opening of fill dipstick plug 1 Check oil level in upper gearbox The MAX level corresponds to the mark on the dipstick plug The MIN level...

Page 80: ...Inspection of knives and securing elements Immediately replace worn or damaged parts with genuine KUHN parts Knives Inspect systematically all knives before the machine is operated to ensure the cutti...

Page 81: ...ust exceed 80 mm 3 15 The width B of a knife measured at A 10 mm 0 39 of the disk must exceed 34 mm 1 34 The out of roundness L of the attachment hole must not exceed 22 mm 0 87 Always replace both kn...

Page 82: ...n obstacle When replacing knives At the start of each season The fixing bolts should be changed in the following cases 2 When there is visible distortion When the locking compound is worn or inoperati...

Page 83: ...0 4 Replace nuts in the following cases When the nut wear reaches a 5 mm 0 2 Check the condition of the securing elements regularly and also the torque of the knife fixing bolt Torque 12 daNm 89 lbf f...

Page 84: ...til all moving parts have come to a standstill and apply park brake Replace immediately all worn or distorted knives Never straighten a bent knife Always replace both knives per disc Parking Clean the...

Page 85: ...re more horse power and have a negative effect on the cut quality Fitting Knives can be turned over on the same disc to use the other cutting edge or replaced On each knife an arrow indicates the disc...

Page 86: ...it towards yourself before releasing the special tool a b c Checking the full locking and free rotation of the knife on the screw head Check that screw head 2 is free to slide in spring plate hole 3 R...

Page 87: ...placing the last knife check that the tool has been removed and put away Disc replacement Place a wooden wedge 1 between two discs to stop them from moving Remove the 4 bolts 2 and their conical washe...

Page 88: ...disc direction of rotation according to fitting of knives Make sure the arrow on the knife upper face is pointing in the disc s direction of rotation Reinstall disc cover 1 Respect an X of 90 between...

Page 89: ...e 1 between two discs to stop them from moving Torque bolts to 2 Torque 12 daNm 89 lbf ft Remove locking piece Check that there is still a minimum play of X 1 mm 0 04 between the spring plate and the...

Page 90: ...out only by an authorised Kuhn dealer Intermediate discs Remove the disc See section Disc replacement Remove spring plate 1 Fit a new spring plate Refit the disc See section Disc replacement 11 4 3 Fi...

Page 91: ...D 3160TLD 3560TLD 91 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner FC3560TLD Remove bolts and washers 1 Remove disc 2 Repeat procedure on the second disk Store parts 3 in a box These parts are required for refitting t...

Page 92: ...rews 4 and washers 5 Reinstall bolts 6 and nuts 7 Torque 12 5 daNm 92 2 lbf ft Reinstall spring plate 8 Fit disc 2 Torque bolts to 4 M12 x 30 Torque 12 5 daNm 92 2 lbf ft Reinstall knives on the disk...

Page 93: ...difficulties in adjusting the mowing unit ground pressure it may be necessary to adjust the ground pressure system s torsion bars Adjustment procedure Use mowing unit lift cylinder to lift the mowing...

Page 94: ...onditioner Remove circlip 1 Insert an M6 1 screw in the threaded hole on the shaft end This screw will facilitate extracting and inserting the torsion bar in its housing Mark position of the torsion b...

Page 95: ...from its housing by pulling on screw 2 Rotate adjustment screw while pushing on the torsion bar until reaching the following spline Rotate in direction a if the cutter bar is too light and in directi...

Page 96: ...storage KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner Reinstall retaining ring 1 Reinstall hood 2 Reinstall the 4 bolts 1 Repeat procedure on the other side of the moving unit if necessary Remove wedges 1 Open the mo...

Page 97: ...parts with original manufacturer parts When replacing a finger also change the one completely opposite to respect the rotor s balance Respect mounting order Fit roll pins at 180 to each other with slo...

Page 98: ...paced at 120 If all 3 nuts have been used replace them See chapter Maintenance and storage Maintenance Rotor safety system Replacement of the rotor safety system nuts Shear bolt replacement Immediatel...

Page 99: ...2 Release and lift side guard using 18mm box spanner supplied with the machine The side guard automatically locks in raised position or From serial number C0403 Pull guard forwards a and lift it b The...

Page 100: ...11 Maintenance and storage KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner Remove the 3 nuts 1 Remove guard 2 Block conditioning rotor rotation Remove the damaged bolt part 1 Rotate cutter bar by hand to place hole 2 o...

Page 101: ...Use exclusively KUHN original parts 5 spare bolts are supplied with the machine Check the shearing bolt class Check the shearing bolt class 10 9 Fit the new screw Torque 2 5 daNm 18 5 lbf ft Make sure...

Page 102: ...nuts 1 Side guard Left side Up to serial number C0402 Pull handle 1 to unlock left side guard 2 Lower side guard The side guard is automatically locked in the lowered position or From serial number C...

Page 103: ...side guard 2 Lower side guard The side guard is automatically locked in the lowered position Remove wedges 1 Open the mowing unit lift cylinder lock valves 2 Replacement of the rotor safety system nut...

Page 104: ...d and cutterbar 1 Shut off mowing unit lift cylinder lock valves 2 Side guard Left side Up to serial number C0402 Release and lift side guard using 18mm box spanner supplied with the machine The side...

Page 105: ...11 Maintenance and storage FC2860TLD 3160TLD 3560TLD 105 KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner Remove the 3 nuts 1 Remove guard 2 Block conditioning rotor rotation Remove screw 1 and washer 2 2 1 2 1...

Page 106: ...ntenance and storage KN281CGB_L Mower conditioner Place a wooden wedge 1 between two discs to stop them from moving Remove bolts 1 Remove the rotor safety system Remove bolts 2 Remove flange 3 Remove...

Page 107: ...1CGB_L Mower conditioner Replace the 3 self locking nuts 4 Use exclusively KUHN original parts 3 self locking nuts M8 are supplied with the machine Place nut locks on the flange side 3 Reinstall flang...

Page 108: ...assembly coat surface 4 with graphite grease Use exclusively KUHN original parts 5 spare bolts are supplied with the machine Check the shearing bolt class Check the shearing bolt class 10 9 Fit the ne...

Page 109: ...N281CGB_L Mower conditioner Reinstall the rotor safety system Reinstall the 3 bolts 3 Torque 13 5 daNm 100 lbf ft Reinstall screw 1 and washer 2 Torque 8 5 daNm 63 lbf ft Make sure to release the roto...

Page 110: ...nuts 1 Side guard Left side Up to serial number C0402 Pull handle 1 to unlock left side guard 2 Lower side guard The side guard is automatically locked in the lowered position or From serial number C...

Page 111: ...es 2 11 5 Storage 11 5 1 At the end of each season Avoid high pressure water jets on rotors and pivot points Clean the machine thoroughly Put the machine under cover in a dry place Clean and pack the...

Page 112: ...es member of the Eurasian Economic Community EAC marking 139885 Specific requirements for countries member of the Eurasian Economic Community EAC marking 139886 Specific requirements for countries mem...

Page 113: ...circuit Do not grind or drill on the shell of the hydro pneumatic accumulator Always empty and recover the oil of the machine s gearboxes and the hydraulic circuit to entrust it to waste oil recyclin...

Page 114: ...ing unit floatation Adjust the mowing unit ground pressure Tangled and down crops Reduce cutting height Increase the mowing unit ground pressure Soil build up in front of the cutterbar Too much cutter...

Page 115: ...d Select the hare position to obtain a rotor speed of 1000 min 1 Conditioning hood is too closed Position rotor conditioning hood further away Excessive ground speed Reduce groundspeed Impossible to d...

Page 116: ...nt of the manufacturer concerned in as much as the latter justifies such a claim This Limited Warranty does not apply to failure through normal wear and tear to damage resulting from negligence or fro...

Page 117: ...quality and quantity of lubricants used must always be in accordance with Company specifications The safety measures mentioned in the Operator s manual and on the machine itself have been followed an...

Page 118: ...forms to the requirements of following European harmonized standards conforms to the requirements of the European directive 2006 42 CE Brand Brand Machine Machine Type Model Type Model Serial no Seria...

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