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Minimiser SE

- Installation

FLUE KITS

Pack B

- supplied as standard

Pack D

- optional extension kit for side flue

or rear flue outlet.
Refer to 'Flue Extension Ducts'

13 BOTTOM PANEL REMOVAL

INST

ALLA

TION

IMPORTANT.

The boiler MUST be installed in a vertical position

INSTALLATION

Dimension X - Wall thickness

Dimension Y - Wall thickness plus

boiler spacing (RHS)

Dimension Z - Wall thickness plus

boiler spacing (LHS)

Undo the 3 retaining screws.

Push the panel backward then to the right to withdraw it
from the boiler.

Unpack the boiler flue kit (and extension packs, if used).

14 DETERMINING THE FLUE LENGTH AND FLUE PACKS REQUIRED

Notes.
1.

The flue duct MUST be inclined at 2.5

to the horizontal

to allow condensate to drain back into the boiler and out
through the condensate drain.

If the front of the boiler is to be flush with the front of
300mm deep kitchen units then the optional stand-off
bracket kit should be used. Care must be taken when
cutting the ducts and marking the wall to suit this
condition.

Flue length dimension

Flue

Rear flue

Right hand side Left hand side

packs

dimn. X

flue dimn. Y

flue dimn. Z

required

114 - 580 mm

114 - 460 mm

114 - 550 mm

Pack B, cut down

1/2

- 22

3/4

1/2

- 18" )

1/2

- 21

1/2

" )

as in Frames 18 & 26

580 - 1530 mm

460 - 1410 mm

550 - 1500 mm

Pack B - 1 off

(22

3/4

- 60

1/4

(18 - 55

1/2

(21

1/2

- 59")

Pack D - 1 off

1530 - 2480 mm

1410 - 2380 mm

1500 - 2450 mm

Pack B - 1 off

(60

1/4

- 97

3/4

(55

1/2

- 93")

(59 - 96

1/2

Pack D - 2 off

2480 - 3000 mm

2360 - 3000 mm

2450 - 3000 mm

Pack B - 1 off

(97

3/4

- 118")

(93 - 118")

(96

1/2

- 118")

Pack D - 3 off

Summary of Contents for minimiser SE 30

Page 1: ......

Page 2: ...2 Minimiser SE Installation ...

Page 3: ...y SEDBUK 86 1 86 7 86 4 86 3 86 5 86 3 Boiler Size SE 30 SE 40 SE 50 SE 60 SE 70 SE 80 Gas supply connection in BSP Rc 1 2 1 2 BSP Female Flow connection 22mm copper via adaptors 28mm copper FEMALE supplied MALE Return connection 22mm copper via adaptors 28mm copper FEMALE supplied MALE Maximum static water head m ft 30 5 100 Minimum static water head m ft 0 45 1 5 Electrical supply 230 V 50 Hz Bo...

Page 4: ...ion 13 Mandatory Requirements 6 Pump 9 Servicing 31 Short List of Parts 48 System Diagrams 9 Terminal Guards 7 Thermostatic Radiator valves 8 Water and Systems 8 Water Connections 5 Water Treatment 12 Wiring Diagrams 24 Minimiser SE Natural Gas only PI No 87AT2 Minimiser SE G C Appliance No 30 41 349 64 40 41 349 65 50 41 349 66 60 41 349 67 70 41 349 68 80 41 349 69 PI No 87 AT 2 Destination Coun...

Page 5: ...r 1 BOILER WATER CONNECTIONS 2 BOILER CLEARANCES all dimensions in mm in The following minimum clearances must be maintained for operation and servicing Additional space will be required for installation depending upon site conditions Side and Rear Flue a Provided that the flue hole is cut accurately e g with a core drill the flue can be installed from inside the building where wall thicknesses do...

Page 6: ...g 60 kW BS 5440 2 Ventilation for gas appliances of rated input not exceeding 60 kW INTRODUCTION Minimiser SE 30 80 are fully automatically controlled wall mounted low water content balanced flue fanned super efficient condensing gas boilers They are spot rated to provide central heating outputs of 8 8 kW 30 000 Btu h to 23 4 kW 80 000 Btu h Due to the high efficiency of the boiler a plume of wate...

Page 7: ... in the above code FLUE INSTALLATION Pluming will occur at the termination so where possible terminal positions which could cause a nuisance should be avoided The flue must be installed in accordance with the recommendations of BS 5440 Part 1 GENERAL The following notes are intended for general guidance 1 The boiler MUST be installed so that the terminal is exposed to external air 2 It is importan...

Page 8: ...UTPUT Boiler size SE30 SE40 SE50 SE60 SE70 SE80 Boiler kW 8 8 11 7 14 7 17 6 20 5 23 4 Output Btu h 30 000 40 000 50 000 60 000 70 000 80 000 Water Flow l sec 0 19 0 25 0 32 0 38 0 44 0 51 Rate gpm 2 5 3 3 4 2 5 0 5 8 6 7 Pressure kPa 4 2 6 7 10 0 13 7 11 2 13 7 Loss m 0 4 0 7 1 0 1 4 1 2 1 4 ft 1 4 2 3 3 3 4 6 3 8 4 6 Table 4 Table 4 Water flow rate and pressure loss THERMOSTATIC RADIATOR VALVES ...

Page 9: ...hieved using a room thermostat whilst other rooms are individually controlled by thermostatic radiator valves 2 Open all manual or thermostatic radiator valves and adjust the lockshield valves on remaining radiators to give around 11 C temperature drop at each radiator 3 Turn up the cylinder thermostat and adjust the cylinder balancing valve so that the cylinder achieves a maximum flow consistent ...

Page 10: ...ding into the feed expansion cistern to a minimum exceeding 3bar 45lb in2 b A manual testing device c Provision for connection of a discharge pipe The valve or discharge pipe should be positioned so that the discharge of water or steam cannot create a hazard to the occupants of the premises or cause damage to electrical components and wiring 3 Pressure Gauge A pressure gauge covering at least the ...

Page 11: ...urn off the boiler and drain the system while still hot Refill and vent the system Adjust the initial pressure to the required value 4 Expansion Vessel a A diaphragm type expansion vessel must be connected to a point close to the inlet side of the pump the connecting pipe being not less than 15 mm 1 2 nominal size and not incorporating valves of any sort b The vessel capacity must be adequate to a...

Page 12: ...an ALUMINIUM alloy heat exchanger If water treatment is used Caradon Plumbing Limited recommend only the use of FERNOX COPAL or SENTINEL X100 water treatment products which must be used in accordance with the manufacturers instructions For further information contact Sentinel Division Betz Dearborn Ltd Widnes Cheshire WA8 8UD 0151 424 5351 Fernox Manufacturing Co Ltd Britannica Works Clavering Ess...

Page 13: ...e siphon 16 Thermostat knob 17 Fan assembly 18 Front panel 19 Controls door 20 Bottom panel 23 Low pressure sensing pipe LEGEND A Boiler drain point 1 Main burner 3 Gas valve 4 Control box 8 Pressure switch 10 Spark generator 10 BOILER ASSEMBLY Exploded view 24 Fan pressure sensing pipe 25 Heat exchanger 26 Flow pipe 27 Return pipe 36 Wall mounting plate ...

Page 14: ...8mm flow and return pipe connectors SE30 to SE60 boilers ONLY z M5 x 10 pozi Hex screw Hardware Pack Pack A Contents Also contained in Pack A z Hardware Pack listed below z These Installation Servicing Instructions z The User s Instructions 1 Unpack the boiler Note The hardware pack and wall mounting plate are within the cardboard infill pieces 2 Swing open the controls pod door 3 Remove the singl...

Page 15: ...lined at 2 50 to the horizontal to allow condensate to drain back into the boiler and out through the condensate drain 2 If the front of the boiler is to be flush with the front of 300mm deep kitchen units then the optional stand off bracket kit should be used Care must be taken when cutting the ducts and marking the wall to suit this condition Flue length dimension Flue Rear flue Right hand side ...

Page 16: ...ut the flue hole preferably with a 5 core boring tool ensuring that the hole is square to the wall Both wall faces immediately around the cut hole should be flat 2 Drill 3 holes with a 7mm 1 4 masonry drill and insert the plastic plugs provided for the wall mounting plate and the jacking screw plate 3 Locate two No 10 x 2 screws in the wall mounting plate one at each side in any of the 3 holes pro...

Page 17: ... support cutting aid 20 MOUNTING THE BOILER 1 Fit the cut to length flue on to the flue turret Note Ensure the top groove in the flue aligns with the top of the turret 2 Drill a 3 2mm dia hole through the flue via the hole present in the turret 3 Secure the turret to the flue using the self tapping screw provided 1 Lift the boiler onto the wall mounting plate as shown 2 Check the boiler alignment ...

Page 18: ...ve ground level an approved terminal guard should be fitted Refer to Flue Installation Page 7 REAR FLUE OUTLET Note BEFORE fitting the flue turret fill the condensate siphon within the boiler by pouring a cupful of water into the flue outlet A 1 Insert the flue assembly through the prepared hole in the wall far enough to allow the rubber seal to unfold completely and form an adequate seal on the o...

Page 19: ... each group and the jacking screw position b The position of the flue duct hole see diagram below and template Note Mark the centre of the hole as well as the circumference 5 Remove both templates from the wall 23 FLUE ASSEMBLY Exploded view Note If the boiler is to be fitted flush with 300mm kitchen units using the stand off brackets ensure the wall is marked to suit this condition the dotted flu...

Page 20: ...cause damage or personal injury 1 Cut the flue hole preferably with a 5 core boring tool ensuring that the hole is square to the wall Both wall faces immediately around the cut hole should be flat 2 Drill 3 holes with a 7mm 1 4 masonry drill and insert the plastic plugs provided for the wall mounting plate and the jacking screw plate Note If the terminal is to be sited within 25 40mm of a corner o...

Page 21: ...ate siphon within the boiler by pouring a cupful of water into the flue outlet A 1 Insert the flue assembly through the prepared hole in the wall far enough to allow the rubber seal to unfold completely and form an adequate seal on the outside wall 2 Pull the flue back and locate the flue turret on the top of the boiler ensuring that the seal is in place 3 Secure the flue turret on top of the boil...

Page 22: ... been accurately cut and the outside wall face is flat 1 Position the terminal wall plate over the terminal 2 Drill 4 fixing holes with a 7mm 1 4 masonry drill 3 Insert the 4 plastic plugs provided 4 Secure the plate with 4 of the No 10 x 2 screws provided Note If the terminal is less than 2m 6 6 above ground level an approved terminal guard should be fitted Refer to the Flue Installation Page 7 3...

Page 23: ...ING THE KIT INSTALLATION INSTALLATION 34 ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS Appliances fitted with a REAR outlet flue please refer to Frame 19 Appliances fitted with a SIDE outlet flue please refer to Frame 27 WARNING This appliance MUST be efficiently earthed A mains supply of 230 V 50 Hz is required The fuse rating should be 3 A All external controls and wiring MUST be suitable for mains voltage Wiring shou...

Page 24: ...tems wiring diagram supplied by the relevant manufacturer in conjunction with the wiring diagrams shown in Frames 38 to 41 Difficulty in wiring should not arise providing the following directions are observed 1 Controls that switch the system on and off e g a time switch MUST be wired in series in the live mains lead to the boiler Flow wiring diagram LEGEND b blue bk black br brown r red o orange ...

Page 25: ...ty when wiring 2 This is a fully controlled system set the boiler thermostat to MAXIMUM 3 Numbering of thermostat terminals applies only to the manufacturer mentioned w white g y green yellow gy grey or orange v violet pk pink LEGEND b blue bk black br brown r red y yellow INSTALLATION LEGEND b blue bk black br brown r red w white or orange y yellow g y green yellow ...

Page 26: ... the boiler thermostat to MAXIMUM 3 Numbering of thermostat terminals applies only to the manufacturer mentioned 4 The boiler should be sized for radiator load only 5 A clock stat may be used instead of separate room stat and time switch 1 Some earth wires are omitted for clarity ensure proper earth continuity when wiring 2 Numbering of thermostat terminals applies only to the manufacturer mention...

Page 27: ...boiler will be left off for more than a day or so then a frost thermostat should be wired into the system This is usually done at the programmer in which case the programmer selector switches are set to OFF and all other controls MUST be left in the running position The frost thermostat should be sited in a cold place but where it can sense heat from the system Wiring should be as shown with minim...

Page 28: ...tre line of boiler 145 mm Condensate drain 42 mm 72 mm with stand off bracket Note The drain connection is located at the rear of the controls compartment The condensate drain provided on the boiler must be connected to a drainage point preferably within the building Ensure that the condensate siphon is full of water before commissioning the boiler refer to Frame 20 or 28 Refer also to the British...

Page 29: ... Checks to ensure electrical safety should be carried out by a competent person 2 ALWAYS carry out the preliminary electrical system checks i e earth continuity polarity resistance to earth and short circuit using a suitable test meter Note Boiler is shown with the front panel removed and the controls drop down door open 46 COMMISSIONING AND TESTING Ensure that the gas supply pipe does not foul th...

Page 30: ...ls to the User s requirements Knob Setting Flow Temperature C F 1 50 120 2 60 140 3 66 150 4 71 160 5 77 170 6 82 180 1 Hand the User s Instructions to the householder and explain his or her responsibilities under the current Gas Safety Installation and Use Regulations or rules in force 2 Draw attention to the Lighting Instruction label affixed to the controls pod door 3 Explain and demonstrate th...

Page 31: ...wish to undertake the service contract yourself or alternatively offer to the customer the benefits of the Ideal Care Scheme details of which are outlined in the Householder pack supplied with this boiler Note Some aluminium oxide build up on the heat exchanger fins is quite usual with this type of condensing boiler Though removal is recommended annually the heat exchanger MUST be inspected and cl...

Page 32: ... ignition and detection leads are in good condition and renew as necessary 1 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 2 Disconnect the pressure sensing pipe from the fan a Undo the 2 screws securing the pipe to the fan b Undo the 2 screws securing the pipe clamping plate to the manifold block c Withdraw the clamping plate d Withdraw the pipe from the boiler 3 Press the retaining bracket lever ...

Page 33: ...rvice cock 9 Reconnect the electrical supply 55 CLEANING THE HEAT EXCHANGER operation 1 Place a plastic sheet or similar beneath the boiler and remove all visible loose deposits from the heat exchanger fins using a suitable brush 2 Take care to clean debris from the ledge inside the combustion chamber Note The pressure sensing pipes must be tested for gas soundness THEBOILERMUSTNOTBEOPERATEDIFTHES...

Page 34: ...nel need not be removed 2 Disconnect the overheat thermostat electrical leads 3 Undo the 2 securing screws and withdraw the thermostat 4 Fit the new overheat thermostat and reassemble in reverse order Refer also to Frame 10 Boiler exploded view and Frame 37 Pictorial wiring 1 Refer to Frame 58 Note The sealing panel need not be removed 2 Remove the split pin and withdraw the thermostat phial from ...

Page 35: ...eat exchanger 4 Fit the new flue thermostat and reassemble in reverse order 64 SPARK GENERATOR REPLACEMENT 63 IGNITION AND DETECTION ELECTRODE REPLACEMENT Dimensions in mm 9 Check the ignition and operation of the burner Note The ignition electrodes are replaced as a pair the detection electrode is a single probe Refer also to Frame 10 Boiler exploded view 1 Refer to Frame 58 2 Remove the fan asse...

Page 36: ...eck the ignition and detection gaps refer to Frame 63 1 Refer to Frame 58 2 Remove the fan assembly refer to Frame 53 3 Disconnect the 2 ignition leads and one detection lead from the electrodes 4 Undo the 3 fixing screws securing the burner assembly 5 Withdraw the burner assembly downward and out of the heat exchanger 6 Remove the ignition and detection electrodes refer to Frame 63 7 Remove the 3...

Page 37: ...ol panel undo the two retaining screws and withdraw the panel 4 Remove the fan unit refer to Frame 53 5 Disengage the low pressure sensing pipe from the manifold block 7 Undo the gas cock union connection 6 Undo the 2 retaining screws and unplug the electrical leads from the gas valve 9 Supporting the valve undo the 3 retaining screws and withdraw the gas valve complete with mounting bracket and m...

Page 38: ...6 Check the operation of the new solenoid 14 Fit the new gas valve in reverse order ensuring that the gas injection pipe O ring seal is refitted 15 Check the operation of the new gas valve 16 Operate the boiler for at least 20 minutes and set the burner pressure to the value shown on the data plate refer to Frame 47 10 Undo the retaining nut and withdraw the manifold from the gas valve mounting br...

Page 39: ...58 2 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 3 Disconnect the pressure sensing pipe from the fan a Undo the 2 screws securing the pipe to the fan b Undo the 2 screws securing the pipe clamping plate to the manifold block c Withdraw the clamping plate d Withdraw the pipe from the boiler 4 Press the retaining bracket lever upward and rotate the fan body to the right to disengage the fan scroll ...

Page 40: ... tilt forward and withdraw it from the boiler 8 Fit the new siphon and reassemble in reverse order replacing any damaged or deteriorating sealing gasket Refer also to Frame 10 Boiler exploded view and Frame 37 Pictorial wiring 1 Refer to Frame 58 Note The sealing panel need not be removed 2 Remove the boiler bottom panel refer to Frame 59 step 4 3 Open the controls pod door and pull off the thermo...

Page 41: ... heat exchanger to disengage from the flue connector tube and withdraw it from the boiler 20 Fit the new heat exchanger and re assemble in reverse order IMPORTANT The flow and return bosses are not common and MUST be refitted in their correct positions The FLOW connection boss has a COARSE thread The RETURN connection boss has a FINE thread Flow pipe Return pipe 16 Bosses Flow 14 Support Boiler 8 ...

Page 42: ...MENT IF FITTED 1 Refer to Frame 58 2 Remove the casing front panel refer to Frame 12 3 Remove the boiler bottom panel refer to Frame 59 step 4 4 Disconnect the 6 leads from the back of the programmer noting their positions 5 Remove the control panel refer to Frame 67 step 3 SERVICING 76 BOILER SEALING PANEL SEAL REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Frame 58 2 Remove the old seal from the casing and thoroughly c...

Page 43: ...ows 1 Mains to boiler with all boiler thermostats calling for heat 2 If the fuse on PCB 37 is OK LEDs 1 3 illuminate and the fan starts 3 After 8 seconds the spark starts and the gas valve opens 4 If a flame is detected the spark stops and the Burner on neon lights 5 If a flame is not detected the spark stops after 9 seconds and the gas valve closes The Burner On neon illuminates momentarily 6 The...

Page 44: ...no fault found check Board 37 by substitution YES NO YES Return to main menu The fan should now run Has fuse blown on Board 37 Fuse is OK if LED 1 is lit YES Is there mains voltage on BOTH terminals of boiler control thermostat YES YES Reset overheat stat Set control stat to maximum Allow boiler to reach temperature If overheat stat trips again measure flow temp If over 90 C replace control stat I...

Page 45: ...e the pressure switch NO YES YES but only with the boiler sealing panel removed Is there live on the connector in the control box which joins the red lead from the dry fire stat to the brown lead from the gas valve during an ignition trial period Remove connectors With mains OFF check continuity of leads from each socket unit back to the corresponding terminals in the control box Are leads in good...

Page 46: ...e tags Rectify faulty connection YES Fan and gas supply OK Ignition spark suspect Re assemble and restore gas supply Boiler should now light and Burner on neon illuminate FAULT FINDING FAULT FINDING Return to Main Menu Is there mains voltage on Board 37 terminals for the spark generator during the 5 ignition trial periods Rectify poor connections or replace spark generator or electrodes NO YES YES...

Page 47: ... from the burner Exit 82 FAULT FINDING CHART 4 Flame Detection FAULT FINDING FAULT FINDING YES Boiler lights briefly then goes off leaving LED2 on the PCB lit Is polarity of the supply correct Ensure that live is connected to L and neutral to N YES Check all connections on Board 37 If no fault found check Board 37 by substitution Boiler should now light Re assemble the boiler Does the boiler now l...

Page 48: ...0 308 556 Spark generator assembly PACTROL 1 112 216 11 378 933 Control thermostat RANCO K36P1331 1 111 853 12 382 873 Overheat thermostat ELMWOOD 2455 RM 98727 1 076 817 13 378 934 Dry fire thermostat RANCO LM7 P5077 1 111 854 14 378 935 Flue thermostat ELMWOOD 1 138 097 15 308 591 Siphon assembly ALTECNIC 1 076 819 16 308 557 Control thermostat knob 1 111 904 17 308 558 Fan assembly SIFAN No WFF...

Page 49: ...d No 37 11 Boiler control thermostat 16 Thermostat knob LEGEND A O ring B Gasket 1 Burner 2 Burner injector 3 Gas valve 5 Detection electrode 6 Ignition electrode 17 Fan 84 CONTROL BOX ASSEMBLY Exploded view 23 Low pressure sensing pipe 24 Fan pressure sensing pipe 37 Gas valve mounting bracket 40 Sensing pipe clamping plate 42 Burner mounting flange ...

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