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Clip IN in 2 relés

This small pcb represents an easy solution to manage two different devices (pump or valve zones) for:
- Big installation with necessity to manage a further pump (it remains unused the second relé)
- A double zone installation
Furthermore, using the double zones timer integrated in the boiler and two simple room thermostat or room
sensor, the installer can give the client a very complete and customized solution with the maximum level of
installation easiness.

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Summary of Contents for TALIA

Page 1: ...Product Guide Release 01_16 05 07 TALIA ...

Page 2: ...RALL DIMENSION 22 3 2 HYDRAULICS CONNECTIONS 24 3 2 1 The solar kit 25 3 2 2 Hydraulic connections cover 25 3 3 FLUE CONNECTIONS 26 3 3 1 Open chamber system 26 3 3 2 Coaxial system 60 100 26 3 3 3 Coaxial system 80 125 28 3 3 4 Twin Pipes system 29 3 4 OLD C M BOILER RANGE REPLACEMENT 31 3 4 1 Replacement Celtic boiler by TALIA 31 3 4 2 Replacement Centora boiler by TALIA 32 3 5 COMPETITORS REPLA...

Page 3: ...oportional flow meter 50 4 2 8 Hydraulic group maintenance 51 4 2 9 Combustion group CF 52 4 2 10 Combustion group FF 53 4 2 11 Combustion group maintenance 54 5 BOILER CODES 55 6 ACCESSORY CODES 56 6 1 INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES 56 6 2 TERMOREGOLATION INTERFACES 57 6 3 TERMOREGOLATION ACCESSORIES 58 6 4 HYDRAULIC ACCESSORIES 60 7 TECHNICAL DATA 62 7 1 OPEN CHAMBER 62 7 2 SEALED CHAMBER 63 ...

Page 4: ...he system thanks to its predisposition to manage a wide range of thermoregulation and hydraulics accessories to ensure a personalized comfort in every room of the house Moreover TALIA boiler is ready to work with the new renewable energies making extremely easy the installation integrated with solar panels for the DHW production also for the installer less experienced in this new activity EASY TO ...

Page 5: ...lay and to the different definition levels to manage different functions From the simple CH and DHW temperature management through two big encoders to the most sophisticate functions use left side door to go the most complete customized functions through the programming keys right side door Moreover the digital display through the INFO button allow to have all informations in order to assuring a c...

Page 6: ...10 INFO button 4 Mode button 11 Esc button 5 DHW timer button 12 Menu Ok button 6 CH timer button 13 Reset button 7 Auto function button Different level of accessibility A first level with two simple encoders to set the standard temperature of Central Heating and Domestic Hot Water Different level of accessibility A second level for main user functions A third level to access to the complete set o...

Page 7: ...a better comprehension of operation and adjustments of the boiler 2 2 1 Week time programming zone LEGEND Hours programming Week day programming Programming indication zone 1 or zone 2 for heating Programming indication for DHW Date and time Hours programming activated Operation with weekly schedule Central Heating programming The display shows if set the weekly schedule programming for up to two ...

Page 8: ... indoor temperature if a room sensor is connected or the outdoor temperature if an outdoor sensor is connected Error code indication If the boiler experiences an operating error the display will show the relevant error code thereby enabling the Technical Assistance Service to identify the problem immediately Assistance Service If the boiler is lock out the display shows the text RESET and the rele...

Page 9: ...ol and the operating temperature level of the boiler Hot water operating mode Operation in Hot water mode is displayed by the tap symbol and the operating temperature level of the boiler Informative text At the bottom of the display a text string guides the user and the Technical Assistance Service through every operation making the boiler extremely easy to manage Comfort function When the COMFORT...

Page 10: ...on with solar panels Info menu Temperature control functions When the SRA function is activated the boiler automatically recognizes whether a Room Sensor an Outdoor Sensor or a Clima Manager is connected to the system adjusting its operation for getting the best efficiency and comfort ...

Page 11: ...gain the INFO button The text string at the bottom of the display indicates which information is being shown INFO TOP SYSTEM DISPLAY EXAMPLES Time of day Hot water flow rate litres min Telephone number and name of Assistance Centre Set heating temperature COMFORT function activated with hot water at 50 C Outdoor temperature C if an outdoor sensor is connected Set hot water temperature SRA function...

Page 12: ...rmostat switches the system off This thermostat intervenes when the temperature of the heating water reaches 105 C to make sure that no damage is caused to any part of the boiler The error code in this case the number 101 and the flash alternately The display also gives a description of the problem in example using the word Overheat When the reset key is pressed the boiler returns to normal operat...

Page 13: ...tivate it to repeat press key MODE until that the display will show If the temperature detected by the main heat exchanger probe 1 ranges between 3 C and 8 C the pump 4 runs and the 3 way valve 3 switches alternatively its position from domestic hot water to central heating If after 20 minutes this temperature remains between 3 C and 8 C also the BURNER 2 turns on supplied with minimum power until...

Page 14: ...em The new system MSC Multi Modulation Sanitary Control bring the best answer in term of DHW waiting time temperature stability even with fast successive tapping or with small water flow demand This is the most severe test for a boiler The new system MSC guaranties moreover the optimization of the boiler management thanks to his progressive intelligence and the new flow sensor with turbine is able...

Page 15: ...uilt in on the boiler which allows the comfort customizing according to the real need of the customer A new function that allows setting the DHW weekly timer integrated This function permit to maintain the temperature of the plate heat exchanger for shorter DHW waiting time It s possible to program period of reheating for each day ...

Page 16: ...16 of 63 2 7 SOLAR PREDISPOSITION Natural circulation solar or centralized solar installation Serie solution with combi boiler forced circulation Parallel solution with heating only boiler forced circulation ...

Page 17: ...ermoregulation The SRA function new Automatic Regulation System permits the access to the thermoregulation world without any worry in terms of explanations management or installation The SRA function is the essence of the project logic o Ease of use only one push on the integrated button o Customized comfort in heating guaranteed The new intelligence of the boiler will manage in auto adaptative wa...

Page 18: ...mpact Heating distribution A large range of accessories for a large range of heating configurations The installer can give easily to the client the best solution for each need Comfort level Saving level Basic with room thermostat on off Ambient with modulating room sensor Complete thermoregulation Climatic with external probe room thermostat on off Monozone For big installation Double zone Triple ...

Page 19: ...nd user can use 3 pre set programmes which may obviously be easily customised by the user PROGRAMMING THE DISPLAY Weekly programming 24 hour programming Controlling 2 zones An heating system which has been divided into two zones is shown TALIA boiler is able to control timer programming intervals of 15 minutes and weekly programming an independent and specific way for each programme EXAMPLE Zone 1...

Page 20: ... the new modulating fan and the multi speed pump in the autoadaptative way according the real requested performance minimizing the gas and electrical consumption But not only Because in such a way TALIA guarantee a non comparable silence thanks to the MSI function MultiSoft Ignition which allows the installation in any place in the house The ignition is done with a maximum of 3 attempts at differe...

Page 21: ...zone in the Frontal Panel rear side for an easy access to the PCB box where all the connections with the external devices can be easily done A wide range of temperature control accessories can be installed wired with wires and wireless without wires in particular the last one permits a complete installation quickly and in a non invasive way Also in terms of function TALIA has been designed to help...

Page 22: ...Page 22 of 63 3 1 OVERALL DIMENSION As accessory A Central heating flow B Domestic hot water flow C Gas inlet D Domestic cold water inlet E Central heating return As accessory ...

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Page 24: ... before creating a complete range of accessories for the new installation and the replacement FR MARKET REPLACEMENT KIT Celtic FIRST INSTALLATION ELM TELESCOPIC FLAPS allows to install easily different type of boiler with or without rear pipes chassis THE PREFITTING KIT DETAILS ...

Page 25: ...e maximum comfort for the client and the complete protection for the boiler 3 2 2 Hydraulic connections cover To finalize the installation with a best aesthetic it is possible to install the hydraulic connections cover Cold water FR BE market Cold water no FR BE market Mixed water Toward the boiler Hot water solar or other source Kit solar mixing valve motor with solar clip in As accessory ...

Page 26: ...chamber version enables 125 mm and 130 mm flue gas exhaust piping to be used without adaptors 3 3 2 Coaxial system 60 100 1 Condensate collection pipe 2 Pressure inspection point positive signal 3 Pressure inspection point caps 4 Pressure inspection point negative signal ...

Page 27: ...0 Ø 43 from 0 5 to1 From 1 to 4 4 C12 35 Ø 46 From 0 75 to 0 75 From 0 75 to 3 3 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 1 From 1 to 4 4 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to1 From 1 to 4 4 C32 35 Ø 46 From 0 75 to 0 75 From 0 75 to 3 3 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 1 From1 to 4 4 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to1 From 1 to 4 4 C42 35 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to1 From 1 to 4 4 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to1 From 1 to 4 4 B32 35 ...

Page 28: ... from 0 5 to 3 from 3 to 11 11 C12 35 Ø 46 from 0 75 to 2 from 2 to 8 8 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 2 from 2 to 11 11 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 3 from 3 to 11 11 C32 35 Ø 46 from 0 75 to 2 from 2 to 8 8 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 2 from 2 to 11 11 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 3 from 3 to 11 11 C42 35 Ø 46 from 0 75 to 2 from 2 to 8 8 25 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 2 from 2 to 11 11 30 Ø 43 from 0 5 to 3 from 3 to 11 11 B32 35 ...

Page 29: ...Page 29 of 63 3 3 4 Twin Pipes system For a better flexibility of installation It allows to connect the air intake pipe to right and on the left ...

Page 30: ...3 from 0 5 to 13 S1 S2 from 13 to 31 S1 S2 31 31 S1 S2 30 kW Ø 43 from 0 5 to 7 S1 S2 from 7 to 24 S1 S2 24 24 S1 S2 C42 35 kW 24 kW Ø 43 from 1 0 5 to 1 24 S1 1m S2 from 1 24 to 1 56 S1 1m S2 1 56 S1 1m S2 30 kW Ø 43 from 1 0 5 to 1 20 S1 1m S2 from 1 20 to 1 50 S1 1m S2 1 50 S1 1m S2 C52 35 kW 24 kW Ø 43 from 1 0 5 to 1 24 S1 1m S2 from 1 24 to 1 56 S1 1m S2 1 56 S1 1m S2 30 kW Ø 43 from 1 0 5 t...

Page 31: ...tallation for Celtic replacement Installation of the new Talia Installation of the tap handing kit Under view of the tap handing kit with good access for all installation drain and cold water inlet taps All accessories permit a good replacement with facilities easy aesthetic fast clean For a lateral exhaust flue it s necessary to use exhaust flue accessories to reach the existing hole The wall hol...

Page 32: ...from the wall and paper template adjustment Installation of the preffiting kit with Centora replacement kit Installation of the new Talia Installation of the tap handing kit Two possibilities of exhaust flue REAR or LATERAL solution For the REAR SOLUTION just an adaptor is necessary For the LATERAL SOLUTION the 20 elbow and the adaptor are necessary ...

Page 33: ... replacement kit For this substitution the exhaust flue doesn t need any special component 3 5 2 Replacement ELM GVM boiler by TALIA All accessories are available for the replacement of ELM boiler The hydraulics connections need the replacement kit The exhaust flue for the LATERAL SOLUTION the 15 elbow and the adaptor are necessary ...

Page 34: ...ler zone in Frontal Panel rear side for an easy access to the PCB box where all the connections with the external devices can be easily done PCB position for e bus interface Remote connections for double room thermostat and wired external probe External clip ins position PCB for teleassistance modem e bus interface included ...

Page 35: ...ces Wireless Modulating devices Remote control External sensor Room thermostat Room sensor External Wireless device Wired on off devices Wired Modulating devices Remote control Modulating room sensor Multizones regulation manager External probe Room thermostat Room thermostat External device ...

Page 36: ... inside the heating circuit Good condition working This function can be activated by the installer by pressing of Esc key for 5 sec continues till to the finish about 6 or pressing of Esc key digits shows P1 The aim is to help to purge the residual air inside the primary circuit after a filling cycle At the activation the following cycle is begun and can be repeated several times till the boiler a...

Page 37: ...ting and the burner turns on even without heating request Boiler on summer mode the burner turn on with the 3 way valve in heating position and is possible to work also in DHW after opening the tap cooling the system 3 8 SYSTEM PREDISPOSITION PCB position for e bus interface Remote connections for double room thermostat and wired external probe External clip ins position PCB for teleassistance mod...

Page 38: ...stallation with necessity to manage a further pump it remains unused the second relé A double zone installation Furthermore using the double zones timer integrated in the boiler and two simple room thermostat or room sensor the installer can give the client a very complete and customized solution with the maximum level of installation easiness ...

Page 39: ...is configuration ensures the same advantages of the previous Clip IN but furthermore can manage an electrical DHW mixing valve before the boiler to control a possible DHW input by a solar source to protect the boiler and improve the behaviour of the boiler in these conditions outlet DHW T stability ...

Page 40: ...redisposition and the integration of this small PCB for serial parallel configuration There is the possibility to control the solar installation with the connection of the collector sensor the storage sensor and the DHW outlet temperature that can be controlled in the best way using an external electrical mixing valve with a control directly on the frontal boiler interface ...

Page 41: ...redisposition and the integration of this small PCB for serial parallel configuration There is the possibility to control the solar installation with the connection of the collector sensor the storage sensor and the DHW outlet temperature that can be controlled in the best way using an external electrical mixing valve with a control directly on the frontal boiler interface ...

Page 42: ... distribution ramp which facilitates gas conversion e The burner can be inspected and cleaned without being removed f Ceramic single block for positioning the ignition electrodes g Temperature contact sensors h Multifunctional digital interface with the following integrated functions display of error codes informative text which makes controlling the boiler extremely simple display of central heat...

Page 43: ... XX Primary circui 2 XX DHW circuit 3 XX Electronic PCB 4 XX Communication with peripherals 5 XX Ignition and detection 6 XX Air inlet Exhaust flue outlet 7 XX Zones NOTE For more details please see the Training Manual 4 1 2 Complete information on boiler status A Menu totally dedicated to the maintenance service gives together with the info button a complete series of information concerning the b...

Page 44: ...lected components The best results in terms of easiness rapidity in the maintenance activity Immediate well approach Access to all components without dismantling any others components Installation inside the hanging without any problem Reduced maintenance time Reduced complexity in spare parts management Selected tested components in terms of quality Combustion group Main PCB Hydraulic group inter...

Page 45: ...ety Burner 9 Safety valve 3 Safety thermostat overheating 105 C 10 Control panel 4 Primary exchanger flow sensor 11 Modulating circulation pump with automatic deaerator 5 Detection and ignition electrodes 12 Primary exchanger inlet sensor 6 Gas valve 13 Primary heat exchanger 7 Domestic hot water flow sensor ...

Page 46: ...on pipe 12 Modulating circulation pump with automatic deaerator 4 Safety thermostat overheating 105 C 13 Primary exchanger inlet sensor 5 Primary exchanger flow sensor 14 Primary heat exchanger 6 Detection and ignition electrodes 15 Modulating fan 7 Gas valve 16 Flue gas analysis inspection point 8 Domestic hot water flow sensor 17 Coaxial exhaust collector 9 Igniter ...

Page 47: ...ctrodes 19 Modulating circulation pump with deaerator 6 Gas valve 20 Flame detection electrode 7 Secondary exchanger 21 Expansion vessel 8 Domestic hot water flow sensor 22 Primary exchanger inlet sensor 9 Bypass 10 3 bar safety valve A Heating system output flow 11 Boiler drain valve B Domestic hot water flow 12 Domestic hot water inlet filter C Gas inlet 13 Filling tap no French market D Domesti...

Page 48: ...ty valve 2 Primary heat exchanger 8 Hot water flow meter 3 Safety thermostat overheating 105 C 9 Modulating circulation pump with deaerator 4 Primary exchanger flow sensor 10 3 way diverter valve motor 5 Secondary exchanger 11 Primary exchanger inlet sensor 6 Boiler drain valve ...

Page 49: ...ting system return filter 4 Hot water from the primary exchanger 11 Modulating circulation pump 5 3 bar safety valve 12 Deaerator 6 Bypass 13 Cold water towards the primary exchanger 7 Hot water flow meter 14 Boiler drain valve 4 2 6 By pass Auto regulation of the heating losses especially when there are thermostatic valves on the radiators Good protection of CH exchanger to avoid thermal shocks o...

Page 50: ...ntaneously to have always constant temperatures In DHW mode with a water flow 1 6l min the turbine give the information to the electronic to start ignition phase It s possible to remove it easily by the front without using any tool LEGEND 8 Reed sensor A Flow regulator optional 8 10lt 24 28kw B Flow meter filter cold water inlet container C Turbine D Flow meter cap B C D A ...

Page 51: ...in labour time thanks to front access during cleaning procedures Cold water inlet filter Built onto the hydraulic assembly Reduction in labour time thanks to front access during cleaning procedures Heating temperature sensors In contact type May be replaced without having to drain the boiler with massive reductions in maintenance procedure times 3 way motorised valve head Coupling type with clip M...

Page 52: ...Page 52 of 63 4 2 9 Combustion group CF LEGEND 1 TTB safety 6 Spark generator 2 Burner 7 Manifold 3 Detection and ignition electrodes 8 Primary heat exchanger 4 Gas valve 9 Deflector 5 Gas pipe ...

Page 53: ...Page 53 of 63 4 2 10 Combustion group FF LEGEND 1 Pressostat 6 Spark generator 2 Burner 7 Manifold 3 Detection and ignition electrodes 8 Primary heat exchanger 4 Gas valve 9 Fan 5 Gas pipe ...

Page 54: ...me as the boiler does not have to be opened Sockets for pression analysis Built into the boiler and accessible from the outside Reduction in labour time as the boiler does not have to be opened Gas burner Front access facilitates gas conversion Air pressure switch area Clips fixation Removing without the use of tools Ignition and ionisation electrodes Ceramic single block Positioning the electrode...

Page 55: ... N IT 745 440 312 X 3650182 TALIA 25 CF B P IT 745 440 312 X 3650183 TALIA 25 FF N IT 745 440 312 X 3650184 TALIA 25 FF B P IT 745 440 312 X 3650185 TALIA 30 CF N IT 745 440 312 X 3650186 TALIA 30 CF B P IT 745 440 312 X 3650187 TALIA 30 FF N IT 745 440 312 X 3650188 TALIA 30 FF B P IT 745 440 312 X 3650189 TALIA 25 CF N EAA 745 440 380 X 3650190 TALIA 25 FF N EAA 745 440 380 X 3650191 TALIA 30 FF...

Page 56: ... BE MARKET 3678364 ES PT MARKET 3678354 PIPES FOR NEW INSTALLATION BARRETTE KIT IT MARKET 3318323 PIPES FOR BARRETTE KIT with rear chassis FR MARKET 3318253 PIPES FOR NEW INSTALLATION BARRETTE KIT with rear chassis BE MARKET 3318255 PROFESSIONAL TEMPLATE KIT MARKET ALL 3318248 PLASTIC CARDBOARD TEMPLATE KIT MARKET ALL 3678247 ...

Page 57: ...mperature 3318242 CLIP IN INTERFACE WITH MIX VALVE For Domestic Hot Water 3318249 CLIP IN SOLAR PANEL SOLARE WITH MIX VALVE For Domestic Hot Water 3318250 CLIP IN INTERFACE 1 HIGH ZONE 1 LOW TEMPERATURE ZONE To manage A Central Heating circuit 1 high zone 1 low temperature zone 3318251 MODEM E SY INTERFACE WITH PLUG IN BUS It allows to connect all the modulating devices activating the E sy CLIP OU...

Page 58: ...ect the Central Heating mode Wire set the room temperature Wireless set and show the room temperature _____ 3318309 EXTERNAL SENSOR Allows to measure the outdoor temperature Wireless It is supplied by an integrated photovoltaic panel 3318306 SIGNAL RECEIVER for modulating devices Allows the communication between the boiler and the wireless sensors 3318301 3318307 T CONTROL on off wireless Allows t...

Page 59: ...tion between the boiler and the T CONTROL 3318308 3318300 ROOM THERMOSTAT on off wired RTw Allows the room temperature thermoregulation 3318306 SIGNAL REPEATER wireless RPws Allows the communication between the boiler and the device when the distance is too big ...

Page 60: ...e Kit Clip in A 3318286 MULTI ZONE KIT Box two zone Hight temperature Kit Clip in A 3318287 MULTI ZONE KIT Box three zone Hight temperature kit 3318346 MULTI ZONE KIT Box two zone multi temperature kit 3318288 MULTI ZONE KIT Box three zone multi temperature kit 3318289 MCD KIT For comby boiler 3318293 ...

Page 61: ... in B 3678296 SOLAR KIT Electrical mixing valve clip in C sensor collector sensor boiler 3678297 REPLACEMENT KIT Sounier Douval 3678387 REPLACEMENT KIT ELM 3678388 REPLACEMENT KIT CELTIC 3678391 REPLACEMENT KIT NECTRA 36783xx REPLACEMENT KIT VAILLANT 3678389 REPLACEMENT KIT JUNKERS 3678390 ...

Page 62: ...CO2 G20 6 07 6 CO 0 O2 ppm 53 107 O2 G20 9 6 9 7 Max flue gas output G20 kg h 62 95 73 8 Emissions Excess air 83 56 86 Load losses water side max T 20 C mbar Residual head for the system bar 0 25 0 25 Expansion vessel pre charge pressure bar 1 1 Central Heating maximum capaciy litres 175 175 Minimum load pressure for the system bar 0 4 0 4 Maximum central heating circuit pressure bar 3 3 Expansion...

Page 63: ...ure G20 C 108 8 100 108 CO2 content G20 7 14 6 89 7 CO content 0 O2 ppm 97 76 6 95 O2 content G20 7 68 8 51 8 Max flue gas output G20 kg h 57 68 60 3 74 Emissions Excess air 57 62 60 99 61 Load losses water side max T 20 C mbar 200 200 200 Residual head for the system bar 0 25 0 2 0 25 Expansion vessel pre charge pressure bar 1 1 1 Minimum load pressure for the system bar 0 4 0 4 0 4 Maximum centr...

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