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Attention!

 There is no 

230 Vac

 contact on any part of the electronic card: 

only low voltage safety current is available. In conformity with the electrical 

safety standards it is forbidden to connect binding posts 

9

 and 

10

 directly 

to a circuit that receives power greater than 

30 Vac/dc

.

Warning!

 For the correct operation of the programmer the incorporated 

batteries must be in good condition: the programmer will 

lose the position

 

of the gate in case of blackouts when the batteries are flat, the alarm will 

sound and repositioning will take place. Check the good working order of 

the batteries every six months (see page 19 "

Battery check

").

•  After having installed the device, and 

before powering up the programmer

release the door (manual release mechanism) and move it manually, checking 

that it moves smoothly and has no unusual points of resistance.

•  The controlled load output (binding post 15) is aimed at reducing battery power 

consumption (if they are installed) during blackouts; photocells and other safety 

devices should be connected to this output. 

•  When a command is received, via radio or via wire, the electronic programmer 

routes voltage to the 

CTRL 24 Vdc

 output. It then evaluates the state of the 

safety devices and if they are at rest it will activate the motor.

•  Connecting devices to the controlled output contact also allows you to carry 

out the autotest function (enabled using "TEST FI" and "TEST FS" in the 

"OPTIONS" menu) and check that the safety devices are functioning correctly.

•  The presence of the electrical current sensor does not dispense with the 

obligation to install photoelectric cells and other safety devices foreseen by 

the 

safety standards in force

.

•  Before connecting the appliance make sure that the voltage and frequency 

rated on the data plate conform to those of the mains supply. 

•  For the 

230 Vac

 power supply only use a 

2 x 1.5 mm

2

 +   cable.

•  The cable may only be replaced by qualified technicians.
•  An all pole trip switch with at least 

3 mm

 between the contacts must be 

installed between the unit and the mains supply.

•  Don't use cables with aluminium conductors; don't solder the ends of cables 

which are to be inserted into the binding posts; use cables marked 

T min 85°C

 

and resistant to atmospheric agents.

•  The terminal wires must be positioned in such a way that both the wire and 

the insulating sheath are tightly fastened (a plastic jubilee clip is sufficient).

230 Vac POWER SUPPLY CONNECTION

•   Connect the control and security device wires.

•  Run the mains power supply to the 

separate

 two-way 

terminal board that is already 

  connected to the transformer.

MOTOR/ENCODER CONNECTION

•  you must scrupulously respect the motor connection sequence between the motors 

and the programmer. The order of the binding post connections 1 to 6 is identical 

on both;

Motor 1

1- 2 - power supply motor 1 

3-4-5-6 - encoder signal input 1

To change the motor's rotating direction invert

cables 1 and 2

Motor 2

1- 2 - power supply motor 2 

3-4-5-6 - encoder signal input 2

To change the motor's rotating direction invert

cables 1 and 2

Preparing the motor connection wires

•   Cut the 6-wire cable to the required length according to the installation specifica-

tions;  you must remember that in order to avoid current dispersion the maximum 

length of the cable must not exceed 

20 metres

.

•  connect the wires of motor "

M1

" and encoder "

1

" to the main board on the electronic 

programmer;

•  run the end of the cable to the terminal board on the motor and connect it to the 

terminal block through a cable clamp "

PC

".

•  insert the wires into the binding posts rigorously respecting the order of the colours 

indicated in figure 4 and tighten down the cable clamp "

PC

";

•  repeat the operation for the second motor and the second encoder. 

•  This device has been created to be integrated into the structure of specially made 

hinged gates. The geared motor is fitted with screw type attachments that allow it 

to be fitted inside metal profiles.

•  The drive shaft can accommodate transmission brackets and adjustable articulated 

joints. The device is extremely compact and allows it to be integrated either into the 

gate's upright or into the gate support column.

Note:

 If you build the motor into the gate support column, the movement generated 

by the propulsion unit will have to be transmitted to the gate leaf by a pinion or pulley 

that is protected by an external case.

•  The propulsion unit can be fitted either to the upper part or to the lower part of the 

upright using the geared motor in both senses of rotation.

•  When building the motor into the gate leaf the axis of rotation must correspond to 

that of the gate hinge.

ASSEMBLY PROCEDURE

The unit may be positioned either to the right or to the left of the passageway:

•  Respect the following limits:

-  maximum gate weight per leaf is 

150 kg

;

-  maximum gate length is 

1,8 m

;

-  maximum gate length with an electric locking device is 

3,5 m

.

The builder must make sure that the closing system respects the technical indications 

supplied by the standards and laws in force:

-  Opening and closing direction mechanical stops;

-  Safety margins;

-  Correct risk analysis at possible crushing points etc.

See: 

www.cardin.it - archive - installation and certification guide

.

The geared motor is fitted with an 

Allen key operated manual release 

system. The geared motor can be 

released by rotating the hexagonal 

socket 

clockwise

 and the automatic 

resetting of the gears is obtained by 

rotating the socket 

anti-clockwise.

 

In both cases it is sufficient to 

rotate the socket to the end of 

its natural course making sure 

that you do not force it (about 12 

rotations).

An access slot will have to be built into the column for the release mechanism.

 MANUAL RELEASE MECHANISM 

 ELECTRICAL CONNECTION

IMPORTANT REMARKS

INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE

RELEASE SYSTEM ACCESS

Manual release system acti-

vated via a 3 mm hexagonal 

socket (Allen key 3)

Electronic control unit for two dc motor with an incorporated encoder and radio 

receiver card, which allows the memorisation of 

300 user codes

. The "rolling code" 

type decoder uses 

433.92 MHz (S449) 

series transmitters.

The motor rotation speed is electronically controlled, starting slowly and increasing 

in speed; the speed is reduced as it nears the travel limit so as to enable a controlled 

smooth stop.

 Programming is carried out using the buttons  

P1, P2, P3,

 and allows you to set the 

system, the current sensor and the entire travel distance of the gates. The intervention 

of the anticrush/antidrag sensor during the closing and opening stages causes travel 

direction inversion.

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ENCODER 1

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205/BLi924

04-08-2010

DI0539

Description :

Product Code :

Date:

Drawing number :

P.J.Heath

CARDIN ELETTRONICA S.p.A  - 31020 San Vendemiano (TV) Italy - via Raffaello, 36 Tel: 0438/401818 Fax: 0438/401831

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Summary of Contents for 205/BLi924

Page 1: ...10 Modalità di funzionamento Pagina 11 Funzionamento a batteria Pagina 11 Caratteristiche tecniche Pagina 44 ATENCIÓN Antes de iniciar la instalación del sistema leer atentamente las instrucciones Instalación estándar Página 3 Esquema eléctrico Página 4 Advertencias importantes Página 37 Instrucciones para el usuario Página 38 Desbloqueo manual Página 38 Conexionado eléctrico Páginas 38 39 Procedi...

Page 2: ...i comando CC242EUNICB Marchio Cardin Elettronica Anno di prima fabbricazione 2008 MODELLO DATA CODICE SERIE e sono state applicate le seguenti norme e o specifiche tecniche EN 55014 1 2006 EN 55014 2 1997 A1 2001 EN 61000 3 2 1995 A1 2001 EN 301489 3 2002 EN 62061 2005 EN ISO 13849 1 2008 EN ISO 13849 2 2013 EN ISO 12100 2010 è conforme alle disposizioni delle seguenti direttive comunitarie Dirett...

Page 3: ...ot lay down any obligations regarding the execution of the installation NOMENCLATURE 1 Motoréducteur 2 Cellule photoélectrique intérieure 3 Cellule photoélectrique extérieure 4 Cellules photoélectrique latéral de protection FTCS 5 Armoire électronique 6 Clignoteur 7 Antenne 8 Sélecteur à clé 9 Serrure électrique Attention leschéma diffuséàtitrepurementindicatif estdestinéàvousaider dans le choix d...

Page 4: ...5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 COLORE COLOUR CODE COLORATION CABLAGGI CODE DES CÂBLAGES Bl Blu Blue Bleu Gr Verde Green Vert Gy Grigio Grey Gris Yw Giallo Yellow Jaune KABELFARBEN COLORACIÓN CABLEADOS Bl Blau Azul Gr Grün Verde Gy Grau Gris Yw Gelb Amarillo Collegamento motori encoder a 4 fili Connecting motor 4 wire encoder Branchement moteur encodeur à 4 fils Anschluss der Motor Encoder mit ...

Page 5: ... con una costa sensibile antischiacciamento 8 Perqualsiasidubbioariguardodellasicurezzadell installazione nonprocederema rivolgersi al distributore del prodotto DESCRIZIONE TECNICA Il set è composto da 2 motoriduttoriautobloccanti200 BLi824conencoderincorporatosenzaelettronica a bordo 1 programmatore elettronico CC242EUNICB con batterie NiMH caricabatterie e modulo radio S449 Il motoriduttore è al...

Page 6: ...essioneall uscitaperi carichicontrollati permetteanchedieseguire l autotest abilitabile mediante TEST FI e TEST FS nel menù OPZIONI per la verifica del corretto funzionamento dei dispositivi di sicurezza La presenza del sensore di corrente non elimina l obbligo di installare le fotocellule o altri dispositivi di sicurezza previsti dalle normative vigenti Accertarsi prima di eseguire il collegament...

Page 7: ...nversione FI 3 FI S3 Segnalazione fotocellule di stop FS 3 FS S4 Segnalazione costa sensibile CP 3 CP S5 Segnalazione tasto di apertura TA TA S6 Segnalazione tasto di chiusura TC TC S7 Segnalazione comando sequenziale TD TD S8 Segnalazione tasto di apertura limitata TAL TAL Nota 2 Nel caso sia acceso invertire immediatamente la connessione della batteria Nota 3 Le segnalazioni sul display sono a r...

Page 8: ... OK per cambiare il valore PROG OK per cambiare il valore PROG OK per cambiare il valore MEMORADIO ON OFF USCITA LC CH2 CANALE RADIO LUCE DI CORTESIA USCITA CONTATTO TB NC 8K2 CONTATTO FI NC 8K2 CONTATTO FS NC 8K2 CONTATTO TB NC 8K2 CONTATTO FI NC 8K2 CONTATTO FS NC 8K2 PROG OK per confermare PROG OK per cambiare il valore PROG OK per cambiare il valore CONTATTO TB NC 8K2 CONTATTO FI NC 8K2 CONTAT...

Page 9: ...ta dall encoder esempio l anta va in chiusura mentre il programmatore sta eseguendo la fase di apertura Controllare la connessione dell alimentazione motore 1 2 Errore del sensore di corrente motore 1 2 Con il motore fermo questo simbolo indica che c è un problema sul sensore di corrente relativo al motore 1 2 Quando interviene la costa di sicurezza causa l inversione del moto sia nella fase di ch...

Page 10: ...re ad avvenuta memorizzazione il ricevitore emetterà 2 bip di mezzo secondo dopodiché il ricevitore sarà pronto a memorizzare un altro codice 4 Per uscire dalla modalità lasciare trascorrere 3 sec senza memorizzare codici Il ricevitore emetterà un bip della durata di 5 sec ed uscirà dalla modalità Nota Quando la memoria viene completamente occupata il buzzer emetterà 10 bip ravvicinati uscendo aut...

Page 11: ...ondo canale radio I morsetti 9 10 forniscono solamente un contatto puro e non danno una ten sione all esterno questo significa che per usare la luce di cortesia sarà necessario alimentare il circuito a parte ed usare il contatto come semplice interruttore Il dispositivo permette il funzionamento del sistema anche in assenza di rete Il programmatore dispone di un circuito di carica per batteria NiM...

Page 12: ...12 NOTES ...

Page 13: ...ke sure that the end user is aware that children and or pets must not be allowed to play within the area of a gate installation If possible include this in the warning signs 7 Whenever a fully open gate leaf comes within 500 mm of a fixed structure the space must be protected by an anticrush buffer 8 If you have any questions about the safety of the gate operating system do not install the operato...

Page 14: ... the cable must not exceed 20 metres connectthewiresofmotor M1 andencoder 1 tothemainboardontheelectronic programmer run the end of the cable to the terminal board on the motor and connect it to the terminal block through a cable clamp PC insert the wires into the binding posts rigorously respecting the order of the colours indicated in figure 4 and tighten down the cable clamp PC repeat the opera...

Page 15: ...e inverting photoelectric cells FI 3 FI S3 Indicator for the stop photoelectric cells FS 3 FS S4 Indicator for the safety edge CP 3 CP S5 Indicator for the opening button TA TA S6 Indicator for the closing button TC TC S7 Indicator for the sequential command TD TD S8 Indicator for the limited opening button TAL TAL Note 2 If this LED is ON invert the battery power cables immediately Note 3 If the ...

Page 16: ...XIT PROG OK to change the value CONTRAST 0 63 REAR LIGHTING ALWAYS ON 60 30 SEC EXIT PROG OK to return to display Note 1 Note 2 Note 3 Note 3 Note 6 Note 7 Note 8 Note 9 The number of manoeuvres carried out by the operator arm and the ECU model are always shown on the opening screen of the display The plug symbol indicates that the ECU is working off mains power The fully charged battery symbol in...

Page 17: ...tion inversion during the closing stage and during the opening stage If the sensor intervenes during the opening direction the gate inverts the travel direction immediately and proceeds to the fully open position If the sensor intervenes during the closing direction the gate automatically inverts the travel direction of a few centimetres and then stops to free the obstacle Alarm indications TB FI ...

Page 18: ...gramming mode wait for 3 seconds without pressing any buttons The receiver will sound a five second long beep and will then exit the program ming mode Note When the memory is entirely occupied the buzzer will sound 10 rapid beeps and will automatically leave the programming via radio mode The same signal is given each time you try to enter programming via radio when the memory is full The installa...

Page 19: ...light willhavetobepoweredbyanexternalcircuitandthecontactusedasasimpleswitch This device allows the propulsion unit to work during blackouts The programmer has a built in charger for an NiMH 24V battery that is managed by a dedicated micro controller The control chip adjusts the voltage according to the condition of the connected battery To avoid the risk of overheating only use the battery suppli...

Page 20: ...20 NOTES ...

Page 21: ...ès proche d une structure fixe avec un espace de 500 mm tel espace devra être protégé par un bord de sécurité anti coincement 8 En cas d un quelconque doute sur la sécurité de l installation interrompre la pose et contacter le distributeur du matériel DESCRIPTION TECHNIQUE Le kit comprend 2 motoréducteurs autobloquants 200 BLi824 avec encodeur intégré sans électro nique à bord 1 programmateur élec...

Page 22: ...cularité de l installation nous rappelons que la longueur maximum admissible pour le câble est de 20 mètres afin d éviter les dispersions électriques brancher les fils du moteur M1 et l encodeur 1 sur la carte principale du pro grammateur électronique tirerlecâblejusqu aubornierdumoteurenpassantàtraverslepresse étoupe PC brancher les fils au bornier en respectant rigoureusement l ordre des couleur...

Page 23: ...e contact non alimenté N O pour activation de l éclairage de zone alimentationséparée Vmaxi 30Vac dc Imaxi 1A oupourdeuxième canal radio La sélection s effectue dans le menu OPTIONS 11 CMN commun pour toutes les entrées sorties 12 LPsortieclignoteur24Vdc25Wactivationintermittente 50 12 5Wactivation continue 13 LS sortie lampe témoin 24 Vdc 3 W 14 CMN commun pour toutes les entrées sorties 15 Sorti...

Page 24: ...nger le valeur CONTRASTE 0 63 LUMIERE FONDE TOUJOUR ON 60 30 SEC SORTIE PROG OK pour confirmer CONTRASTE 0 63 LUMIERE FONDE TOUJOUR ON 60 30 SEC SORTIE PROG OK pour changer le valeur CONTRASTE 0 63 LUMIERE FONDE TOUJOUR ON 60 30 SEC SORTIE PROG OK retour au menu display F p p Le nombre de manœuvres effectuées par l opérateur le modèle de la centrale et la version du firmware sont toujours indiqués...

Page 25: ... marche du portail est différent de celui établi par l encodeur par exemple le portail va en fermeture alors que le programmateur réalise la phase d ouverture Contrôler la connexion de l alimentation du moteur 1 2 Erreur du senseur de courant moteur 1 2 Avec moteur arrêté ce symbole indique qu il y a un problème sur le senseur de courant moteur 1 2 L intervention de bord de sécurité inverse le sen...

Page 26: ...s d une demi seconde Après quoi le récepteur sera prêt à mémoriser un autre code 4 Pour quitter le procédé de mémorisation laisser passer 3 secondes sans mémo riser de codes Le récepteur émettra un bip de 5 secondes et sortira du procédé Note lorsque la mémoire est pleine l avertisseur sonore émet 10 bips très courts et on sort automatiquement du procédé de mémorisation via radio Cette signali sat...

Page 27: ...que les bornes 9 et 10 ne procurent qu un contact non alimenté elles ne four nissent pas de tension à l extérieur ce qui signifie que pour utiliser l éclairage de zone ilfaudraalimenterlecircuitséparémentetutilisercecontactcommesimpleinterrupteur Le dispositif permet le fonctionnement du groupe opérateur même en cas de coupure de courant Leprogrammateurdisposed uncircuitdechargepourbatteriesNiMHà2...

Page 28: ...28 NOTES ...

Page 29: ...mmimArbeitsbereichdesTorflügelsgelassenwerden Dieser Raum muss von einer Sicherheitsleiste zum Schutz vor Quetschungen geschützt werden 8 Bei irgendwelchen Zweifeln bezüglich der Sicherheit bei der Installation die Arbeit einstellen und sich an den Vertrieb der Produkte wenden TECHNISCHE BESCHREIBUNG Das Set besteht aus 2 selbsthemmenden Getriebemotoren 200 BLi824 mit eingebautem Encoder ohne Elek...

Page 30: ...ungsind dieMotoren DerAnschlussamAusgangfürdie kontrolliertenLasten gestattetdieAusfüh rung des Selbsttestverfahrens Freigabe mittels TEST FI und TEST FS zur Überprüfung der Sicherheitsvorrichtungen auf deren korrekte Betriebsweise Das Vorhandensein des Stromsensors entbindet nicht von der Verpflichtung die von den geltenden Bestimmungen vorgeschriebenen Lichtschranken oder andere Sicherheitsvorri...

Page 31: ...estellung aktiviert S1 Anzeige für Blockiertaste TB 3 TB S2 Anzeige Bewegungsumkehrunglichtschranken FI 3 FI S3 Anzeige Lichtschranke für Stop FS 3 FS S4 Anzeige Sicherheitsleiste CP 3 CP S5 Anzeige Öffnungstaste TA TA S6 Anzeige Schließungstaste TC TC S7 Anzeige sequentieller Befehl TD TD S8 Anzeige Taste für begrenzte Öffnung TAL TAL Anmerkung 2 Falls diese LED aufleuchtet muss der Anschluss der...

Page 32: ...ät vom Hauptnetz gespeist wird Das Symbol zeigt an dass das Steuergerät von der zu 100 g e l a d e n e n Batterie gespeist wird 75 50 25 0 Anmerkung 1 PROG OK Rückkehr zum Menü Bewegung Pfeil klicken um zu verschieben Anmerkung 2 Anmerkung 3 Anmerkung 3 Anmerkung 4 Anmerkung 5 Anmerkung 6 Anmerkung 7 Anmerkung 8 Anmerkung 9 PROG OK um zu bestätigen Der Pfeil drücken um den Wert zu erhöhen oder zu ...

Page 33: ...e Bewegung in der Schließ wie auch in der Öffnungsphase um Wenn der Fühler in der Öffnungsphase anspricht kehrt der Torflügel sofort die Bewegung um und öffnet sich vollständig Wenn der Fühler während der Öffnungsphase anspricht kehrt der Torflügel sofort die Bewegung für einige Zentimeter um und stoppt dann um das Hindernis freizugeben Alarmsignalisierungen TB FI FS CP TA TD TC TAL PROGRAM TB FI ...

Page 34: ... einenanderenCodezuspeichern 4 Um den Modus zu beenden 3 Sekunden ohne einen Code zu speichern ver streichen lassen Der Empfänger gibt einen 5 Sekunden dauernden Bip Ton von sich und verlässt den Speichermodus Anmerkung Wenn der Speicher voll ist gibt der Summer zehn schnell aufeinan derfolgende Bip Töne von sich und beendet automatisch den funkgesteuerten Speichermodus Das Gleiche geschieht auch ...

Page 35: ...tromfreien Kontakt und somit extern keine Stromspannung Dies bedeutet dass für die Verwendung des Wachlichtes der Stromkreis separat versorgt werden muss und der Kontakt nur als einfacher Schalter zu verwenden ist Die Vorrichtung erlaubt den Betrieb des Systems auch bei fehlender Netzversorgung Die Steuerung verfügt über einen Ladekreis für NiMH Batterien auf 24V der gesteuert wird von einem eigen...

Page 36: ...36 NOTES ...

Page 37: ... resguardar con un protector sensible antiaplastamiento 8 En caso de dudas sobre la seguridad de la instalación no proceder sino dirigirse al distribuidor de los productos DESCRIPCIÓN TÉCNICA El juego consta de 2 motorreductores de autobloqueo 200 BLi824ESB con encóder integrado sin programador electrónico incorporado 1 programadorelectrónicoCC242EUNICBconbateríasNiMH cargadordebaterías y módulo r...

Page 38: ...s El conexionado con la salida para las cargas controladas permite también realizar el autotest que se habilita mediante las configuraciones TEST FI y TEST FS en el menú OPCIONES para comprobar el funcionamiento correcto de los dispositivos de seguridad La presencia del sensor de corriente no exime de la obligación de instalar las fotocélulas o demás dispositivos de seguridad contemplados por las ...

Page 39: ...océlulas de inversión FI 3 FI S3 Señalización fotocélulas de parada FS 3 FS S4 Señalización banda sensibile CP 3 CP S5 Señalización tecla de apertura TA TA S6 Señalización tecla de cierre TC TC S7 Señalización control secuencial TD TD S8 Señalización tecla de apertura limitada TAL TAL Nota 2 Si este LED está encendido invertir de inmediato el conexionado de la batería Nota 3 La indicaciones en el ...

Page 40: ...1 4 PROG OK para cambiar el valor SENSOR CORRIENTE NIVEL 1 5 APERTURA LIMITADA REGULACION 1 5 DIS TOPE APERTURA 1 9 PASOS PROG OK para cambiar el valor PROG OK para cambiar el valor CONTRASTE 0 63 RETROILUMINACION SIEMPRE ON 60 30 SEG SALIDA PROG OK para confirmar CONTRASTE 0 63 RETROILUMINACION SIEMPRE ON 60 30 SEG SALIDA PROG OK para cambiar el valor CONTRASTE 0 63 RETROILUMINACION SIEMPRE ON 60...

Page 41: ...el encoder motor 1 2 La direzione di marcia dell anta è diversa da quella stabilita dall encoder esempio l anta va in chiusura mentre il programmatore sta eseguendo la fase di apertura Controllare la connessione dell alimentazione motore Error del sensor de corriente motore 1 2 Con el motor parado este símbolo indica que existe un problema en el sensor de corriente motor 1 2 La apertura del contac...

Page 42: ...a continuación el receptor estará listo para memorizar otro código 4 Parasalirdelamodalidad esperar3segundossinmemorizarcódigos Elreceptor emitirá un bip de 5 segundos de duración y saldrá de la modalidad Nota cuando la memoria ha sido ocupada por completo el avisador acústico emitirá 10 bips uno tras otro saliendo automáticamente de la modalidad de memorización vía radio La misma indicación se ob...

Page 43: ... libre de potencial y no proporcionan una tensión hacia el exterior lo cual significa que para utilizar la luz de cortesía deberá alimentarse el circuito separado y utilizar el contacto como un interruptor simple Eldispositivopermiteelfuncionamientodelsistematambiéncuandofaltalacorriente El programador dispone de un circuito de carga para batería NiMH a 24V diri gido por un microcontrolador dedica...

Page 44: ...0 60 Grado de protección IP 55 Aparato de clase II Cls Receptor incorporado Frecuencia de recepción S449 MHz 433 92 Número de canales N 4 Número de funciones gobernables N 2 Número de códigos almacenables N 300 Technische daten des Antriebs Stromversorgung Vdc 24 Nennstrom A 2 Aufnahmeleistung W 50 Einschaltdauer 70 Getriebsgeschwindigkeit dreh min 1 27 Drehmoment Nm 260 Schutzgrad IP 44 Technisch...

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