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FACTORY SETTINGS

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FREQUENCY SETTING

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TX FREQUENCY

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RX FREQUENCY

180.0

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Страница 5: ...ment has advanced revision number The document No is indicated at the lower right side on the cover and at the left or right side of the footer region of each page 2017 2019 Koden Electronics Co Ltd A...

Страница 6: ...and some parts may be omitted Koden is not liable for damages and troubles arisen from misunderstanding of the contents in this manual Koden is not liable for any damages caused by earthquake lightni...

Страница 7: ...ent Be careful of high voltage inside High voltage which may risk your life is used This high voltage may remain in the circuit even after the power is switched off To prevent contact with the high vo...

Страница 8: ...n handling No disassembly or modification of this equipment is allowed It may lead to failure firing smoking or electric shock In case of failure please contact Koden s dealers or Koden In case of smo...

Страница 9: ...3 Basic Operation 34 Chapter 4 Function Settings 44 Factory Settings 46 Menu 48 Function Settings 51 Chapter 5 Description of Knobs and Keys 83 Knobs 84 Keys 87 Chapter 6 Option 95 Option List 96 Inpu...

Страница 10: ...operating the KDS 5000BB Please carefully read and follow the safety information so that the KDS 5000BB will perform to the utmost of its ability Before Use Symbols 3 Notice 3 Turning the Power On Off...

Страница 11: ...h or serious injury Indicates a potentially hazardous situation which if not avoided may result in minor injury NOTE Indicates the contents for the user s reference NOTICE This manual should be kept o...

Страница 12: ...uch of the key will not turn the power off KEY OPERATION A beep sounds when operating key correctly Three short beeps sound when operating wrongly or not accepting the operation PREVENTIVE MEASURE for...

Страница 13: ...t is likely to be exposed to direct sunlight MOUNTING CONDITIONS Do not install the KDS 5000BB on unstable or uneven surfaces Installing the unit tentatively may result in dropping toppling over or in...

Страница 14: ...rk inside the unit Care for sufficient reinforcement and being watertight should be taken when installing the Hull unit Otherwise it will cause wrecks Use the proper fuse when changed Otherwise it cou...

Страница 15: ...Type DPU 510 31524D 1 36213D Q TY 1 1 1 Name of item Operation manual Audio system plug Fuse Tapping screw Type KDS 5000BB OM E MP 105LC RoHS FGBO A 125V 4A M6x20 Q TY 1 1 3 4 OPERATION UNIT DOU 520 N...

Страница 16: ...aft Fixing collar Shift cap Bolt set Type ESR 1504 1411mm ESR 160 32679C 2 1681mm ESR 160 32679C 3 1981mm 32681D 34378D SUS M16x65 Assy Q TY 1 2 1 set 1 set Name of item Cap bolt Grease Anp base Bindi...

Страница 17: ...9 COMPONENTS JUNCTION BOX DJB 540 Name of item Junction box Fuse Tapping screw x3 x3 For DJB 540 Type DJB 540 FGBO A 125V 4A FGBO A 125V 8A SUS M5x20 Q TY 1 3 each 1 8A 4A...

Страница 18: ...it DOU 520 13 Dimensions Junction box DJB 540 14 Dimensions Hull unit DHU 530 15 TD tank 16 Assembling and Mounting of Hull unit DHU 530 20 Mounting Junction Box DJB 540 27 Mounting Processor unit Ope...

Страница 19: ...is the best If the Hull unit cannot be installed on the keel the center of the retraction TD tank should be within 1 meter of the keel Hull Unit TD tank Be sure there are no obstacles to interfere the...

Страница 20: ...12 INSTALLATION DIMENSIONS PROCESSOR UNIT DPU 510 DIMENSIONS OPERATION UNIT DOU 520 Unit mm inch...

Страница 21: ...13 INSTALLATION DIMENSIONS OPERATION UNIT DOU 520 Unit mm inch...

Страница 22: ...14 INSTALLATION DIMENSIONS JUNCTION BOX DJB 540 Unit mm inch...

Страница 23: ...15 INSTALLATION DIMENSIONS HULL UNIT DHU 530 Unit mm inch...

Страница 24: ...D TANK LENGTH Lt 181mm Flange should be positioned over the draft at full load TD tank Keel Do not protrude TD tank from beneath the keel Lt TD tank length min 670 Lt 535 If the working space LT 535 i...

Страница 25: ...2 5 KEEL MAX 1MT TRUNK PIPE 22 5 STREAMLINING BOARD KEEL VIBRATION SUPPORT Not to protrude lower than Keel TRUNK PIPE STREAMLINING BOARD FLANGE HOLE ANGLE Space under Flange There should be no obstacl...

Страница 26: ...PLES To be continued Select a location of TD tank Refer to page 11 Make a hole of TD tank diameter in the bottom of ship Install the TD tank Flange should be positioned in parallel with the ship s dra...

Страница 27: ...nk projecting out from the bottom in a stream line shape and provice a fairing plate to suppress water resistance and generation of air bubbles to the minimum Apply FRP sufficiently to all the necessa...

Страница 28: ...670 Lt Yt 460 MARK Lt 160 Yt Mark to the point of Lt 160 The upper end of Joint Arm should be united with the Mark and tighten them them Mark and tighten it When the space above the TD shaft is equal...

Страница 29: ...t a Bow Mark with a felt pen at the top end of the TD shaft as shown in the drawing To be continued Pay attention to the following when mounting the TD shaft into the Transducer unit or demounting the...

Страница 30: ...2 INSTALLATION 2 Mount Shaft Guides Instert the 3 shaft guides as shown in the drawing Insert Fixing Collar and fix it with the Cap Bolts 2 pcs To be continued CAP BOLT M4X10 FIXING COLLAR SHAFT GUIDE...

Страница 31: ...Joint Arm to the TD shaft Take care the position of the Transducer unit bottom is 48mm up from the TD tank bottom Pass the Fixing Collar into the TD shaft and fasten it with the cap bolts 2 pcs To be...

Страница 32: ...ace the Waterproof Nut on the Flange opening and tighten it firmly by hand and then make a 180 degree turn with a screwdriver Take care not to over a 180 degree This Lock Nut is to protect loosening t...

Страница 33: ...th Hex Bolts and fasten them after the performance is confirmed Nut M16 Do not apply Adhesive etc on the Gum Packing for Flange Spring Washer 16 Flat Washer 16 x 32 x 2 Hex Bolt M16 x 65 TD tank Gum P...

Страница 34: ...se the Transducer unit with the Crank Handle manually after removing the Cap Raised Position Lowered Position Max 380mm Adjustable range 200mm Remove the Cap Crank Handle Moved up and down Loosen the...

Страница 35: ...rvice clearance The Cable Junction side should be at the bottom side or the left side Components Junction Box 1 Truss Tapping Screw 4 M5x20 Use the Junction Box DJB 504 Mounting Kit to joint the Junct...

Страница 36: ...usting the comfortable viewing angle of the monitor Fasten the both knob bolts Components Operation unit 1 M Bracket 1 Truss Tapping Screw 4 Knob Bolt 2 Truss Tapping Screw Truss Tapping Screw M Brack...

Страница 37: ...an external monitor Trigger Output Terminal 3P outputs trigger signals synchronizing to an external echo sounder NMEA Output Terminal 6P outputs the data of depth and water temperature The Latitude Lo...

Страница 38: ...he Hull unit Use the voltage in the range 21 6 to 31 2Volts Hoist Motor Cable connects the Hoist Motor Cable from the Hull unit I Fcable connects I F cable to the Processor unit Earth Terminal Transdu...

Страница 39: ...eat may result Confirm the voltage between the Flang and the minus terminal of the ship s battery does not exceed 0 65 volts after the installation completed Use the larger diameter cable if the volta...

Страница 40: ...NICATION CABLE 1 5m WHITE LINE PLUS TERMINAL BLACK LINE MINUS TERMINAL INSTALLATION WIRING between DPU 510 and DHU 530 The length of each cable includes a part up to 60 cm for drawing inside the main...

Страница 41: ...nnects 6P plug to J 7 on the board TRANSDUCER UNIT CABLE connects 3P plug to J 9 on the board connects 5P plug to J 6 on the board connects 10P plug to J 5 on the board J 2 connects the white line to...

Страница 42: ...ns the basic operation of KDS 5000BB Basic Operation Operation Panel 35 Display Description 36 Sample Display of Sonar Mode 37 Sonar Mode 38 Sample Display of Bottom Scan Mode 40 Bottom Scan Mode 41 S...

Страница 43: ...Keys Refer to page 88 Range Knob Refer to page 84 Sector Knob Refer to page 85 Mode Knob Refer to page 84 Power ON OFF Keys Refer to page 87 Hoist Keys Refer to page 87 Lower Keys Refer to page 87 Cu...

Страница 44: ...ct the display mode SCREEN RIGHT MENU 1 SELF CHECK MENU 2 SELF CHECK INFORMATION SUB DISPLAYS Use the MODE KNOB to select MENU 1 2 INFORMATION SUB DISPLAYS can be set via MENU 2 MENU 1 Select the desi...

Страница 45: ...UPPLY VOLTAGE WATER TEMP SPEED SHIP S POSITION IN LATITUDE LONGITUDE When the Sub menus other than INFORMATION selected They are displayed in the upper left of the Sonar Display 1 Tilt angle is displa...

Страница 46: ...p angle The reflected echoes are displayed as the image every step accordingly The step angle can be selected in MENU 2 STEP SONAR Refer to page 63 A narrow step gives a more detailed image on the scr...

Страница 47: ...water depth Tilt angle setting range SEA BOTTOM The below drawing illustrates the fish school is displayed on the screen when the ship reaches the point A but it is not displayed at the point B even i...

Страница 48: ...OWER 3 V INFORMATION DISPLAY When the Sub menus other than INFORMATION selected They are displayed in the Bottom Scan Mode Display 1 2 and 3 IR ON is not displayed when INTERFERENCE REJECTION OFF sele...

Страница 49: ...nsducer right and left The reflected echoes are displayed accordingly after emitting the ultra sound beam Changing the sector angle makes it possible to detect both the narrow and the wide ranges Refe...

Страница 50: ...R HORIZONTAL DISTANCE SLANT DISTANCE DEPTH O N MARKER CURSOR RANGE BEARING SECTOR TILT WATER SPEED POWER 3 V When the Sub menus other than INFORMATION selected They are displayed in the Sounder Mode D...

Страница 51: ...e by changing the tilt angle Tilt angle The transducer emits the ultra sound beams toward the bottom just beneath the ship and the images are displayed like the Echo Sounder The beam width is differen...

Страница 52: ...Curve 53 Dynamic Range 54 Pulse Width 54 TX Power 55 RX Gain Reduction 55 RX Bandwidth 56 Full Screen Gain Set 56 Rejection 57 Display Item Selection Sub Display 58 Step Sonar 63 Step Bottom Scan 63...

Страница 53: ...71 Speed Unit 72 Auto Retract 72 Train Correct 73 Panel Brightness 73 Power Supply Frequency 74 TD Auto Down 74 Ope Mode Memory 75 Color Palette Color Sel Color Selection 76 Color Display Colors 76 Re...

Страница 54: ...S A SCOPE BOTTOM TRACK EXTSOUNDER STEP SONAR 5 10 15 20 STEP BOTTOM SCAN 3 5 OFF CENTER POS FORE BACK LEFT RIGHT SCALE DOTS OFF ON COMPASS DISP OFF ON HEADING DISP OFF ON TRACK DISP OFF ON TRACK SUB R...

Страница 55: ...7 FACTORY SETTINGS COLOR PALETTE MENU 2 COLOR SEL A 1 A 2 B 1 B 2 C 1 C 2 PAGE 76 77 COLOR 8 16 FREQUENCY SETTING PAGE 79 TX FREQUENCY 180 0 Hz 10kHz 0 1kHz UNIT RX FREQUENCY 180 0 Hz 10kHz 0 1kHz UNI...

Страница 56: ...played unit of depth measurement can be set via MENU 2 OTHERS Refer to page 71 The way of the range setting is the same for both ranges but the values of range setting are not corresponded each other...

Страница 57: ...ENCE REJECTION DISP ITEM SEL SUB DISPLAY DISPLAY ITEM SELECTION STEP SONAR STEP BOTTOM SCAN OFF CENTER POSITION SCALE DOTS COMPASS DISPLAY HEADING DISPLAY TRACK DISPLAY TRACK SUB RANGE TRACK MEMORY IN...

Страница 58: ...50 MENU COLOR PALETTE COLOR SEL COLOR REMOTE CONTROL FREQUENCY SETTINGS TX FREQUENCY RX FREQUENCY SELF CHECK MAINTENANCE UPDATE BACK UP RECOVERY VERSION For further details see next pages...

Страница 59: ...or change COLOR PALETTE REMOTE CONTROL SET FREQUENCY SETTING SELF CHECK MAINTENANCE FUNCTION SET MENU FUNCTION SET Press the Cursor Selection key O RETURN MARK to return to MENU 2 GAIN UP OFF TVG CURV...

Страница 60: ...to change OFF 10dB 20dB 30dB 40dB 50dB The sensitivity or possibly volume is increased 3 3 times when the gain setting is changed to 10dB from OFF The reflected image at level 3 3 in the gain setting...

Страница 61: ...G CURVE Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting TVG CURVE 30LOG Use the Cursor Shift key or to change OFF 10LOG 20LOG 30LOG 40LOG TVG CURVE OFF No TVG curve 10LOG 1 in the below drawing 20LO...

Страница 62: ...rsor Shift key or to select PULSE WIDTH Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting PULSE WIDTH x1 Use the Cursor Shift key or to change x1 x1 5 x2 x1 standard shown in the below box x 1 5 1 5 t...

Страница 63: ...OWER D Use the Cursor Shift key or to change A B C D D is the maximum level and A is the minimum level 6 RX GAIN REDUCTION Reduction of RX gain to weaken too strong reaction in the shallow water can b...

Страница 64: ...higher but more noise Selecting narrower bandwidth makes the resolution lower but less noise 8 FULL SCREEN GAIN SET Select full gain function ON or OFF when changing the gain knob Use the Cursor Shif...

Страница 65: ...change Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the settings 1 INTERFERENCE REJECTION This function can be used to eliminate noise from other ships Use the Cursor Shift key or to select INTERFERENCE REJ...

Страница 66: ...B RANGE TRACK MEM INTERVAL PRESS RATE FILTER SUB BOTTOM SCAN CURSOR DIRECTION CURSOR POSITION 1 SUB DISPLAY Sub menu displayed on the right half of the screen can be selected Use the Cursor Shift key...

Страница 67: ...appears only when Interference Rejection ON selected f Displays the horizontal distance slant distance and depth to the marker No data appears when Bottom Scan mode set g Displays the horizontal dista...

Страница 68: ...CLOCKWISE YELLOW CLOCKWISE BLUE COLOR SCALE OWN SHIP S POSITION AN EXTERNAL NAVIGATOR IS REQUIRED WATER TEMPERATURE strongest color second strongest color weakest color background color SIGNAL STRENGT...

Страница 69: ...sed images are displayed at the selected rate MENU DISP ITEMSEL PRESS RATE 5 A SCOPE HISTORICAL DISPLAY A SCOPE A Scope is displayed on the right side of the historical display The illustration below...

Страница 70: ...anges into the Bottom Scan when it passes the center while clockwise rotating when SUB BOTTOM SCAN AUTO selected After it updated it will back to the Sonar Mode The Sonar Mode display alternates with...

Страница 71: ...or to change 5 10 15 3 STEP BOTTOM SCAN The Step angle for SONAR MODE can be selected Use the Cursor Shift key or to select STEP BOTTOM SCAN Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting STEP BOT...

Страница 72: ...hange FORE BACK RIGHT LEFT FORE BACK RIGHT LEFT 5 SCALE DOTS The display of scale dots on the screen can be selected ON OFF Use the Cursor Shift key or to select SCALE DOTS Use the Cursor Shift key or...

Страница 73: ...in the SONAR MODE Use the Cursor Shift key or to select HEADING DISP Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting HEADING DISP OFF Use the Cursor Shift key or to select ON OFF ON activates Headin...

Страница 74: ...30 SEC 60 SEC The short interval can provide for the display of smooth wake line but it is the record of short term In case of the long interval it displays the record of long term but the zigzag line...

Страница 75: ...s into BOTTOM SCAN MODE display manually 14 CURSOR DIRECTION Select the display way of the CUSOR DIRECTION when an External Navigator connected Use the Cursor Shift key or to select CURSOR DIRECTION U...

Страница 76: ...kt AUTO RETRACT OFF TRAIN CORRECT 0 PANEL BRIGHTNESS 15 POWER S FREQUENCY 120k TD AUTO DOWN OFF OPE MODE MEMORY OFF Note that the value of Train Correct cannot be set here Refer to page 73 1 AUDIO LEV...

Страница 77: ...Each press of the Target Lock key reverses the sector rotary direction Note that the automatic tracking is not available in this MODE 0 MODE 1 RIGHT LEFT Press the Target Lock key to track the reacti...

Страница 78: ...than MODE0 3 TRIGGER SIGNAL Select which Trigger signal to use Use the Cursor Shift key or to select TRIGGER SIGNAL Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting TRIGGER SIGNAL INTERNAL Use the Cu...

Страница 79: ...e the Cursor Shift key or to select TEMP UNIT Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting TEMPERATURE UNIT C Use the Cursor Shift key or to change C F 6 TEMPERATURE ADJUSTMENT The water temperat...

Страница 80: ...e OFF 10kt 18km h Available setting ranges 1 to 15kt 1km h to 27km h Use the Cursor Shift key or to set the speed after selecting the initial value increases the value decreases the value With the spe...

Страница 81: ...direction 0 Selecting CANCEL cancel the current operation TRAIN CORRECT 90 After pressing the Cursor Shift key or the angle of the center direction set at the menu of SONAR MODE appears BOW DIRECTION...

Страница 82: ...or normal use 12 TD AUTO DOWN With the function TD AUTO DOWN ON selected the Transducer unit is automatically lowered when the power turned on Use the Cursor Shift key or to select TD AUTO DOWN Use th...

Страница 83: ...g the operation accidentally by selecting OFF Use the Cursor Shift key or to select OPE MODE MEMORY Use the Cursor Shift key or to change the setting OPE MODE MEMORY OFF Use the Cursor Shift key or to...

Страница 84: ...of echoes and background A 1 A 2 B 1 or B 2 can be set as desired C 1 C 2 can set the colors freely with Color palette function Use the Cursor Shift key or to select COLOR SEL Use the Cursor Shift ke...

Страница 85: ...hich activates the RGB ratio B G COLOR SEL function 1 A 1 2 COLOR Press the Cursor Selection key O to close 3 8 COLORS this menu 4 5 INITIAL SETTINGS 6 EDIT Use the Cursor Shift key or to select 7 R G...

Страница 86: ...78 FUNCTION SETTINGS REMOTE CONTROL SET OPTION Previously set the key each on the remote controller before use MODE KNOB REMOTE CONTROL SET Refer to page 100 for the settings in details...

Страница 87: ...ENCY 180 0kHz Use the Cursor Shift key or to change BASIC FREQUENCY to 10kHz decreases every 0 1kHz of the values of the frequencies for TX FREQUENCY and RX FREQUENCY increases every 0 1kHz of the val...

Страница 88: ...s suspected TRAIN MOTOR DISCONNECTION appears when the abnormal train motor is suspected TILT MOTOR DISCONNECTION appears when the abnormal tilt motor is suspected TRAIN MOTOR ABNORMAL DETECTION OF OR...

Страница 89: ...and can be reset Use the Cursor Shift key or to select ELAPSED TIME The following menu appears on the bottom of the screen after pressing the Cursor Selection key O ELAPSED TIME RESET Do you reset ela...

Страница 90: ...sor Shift key or to select where to back up INTERNAL or MEMORY USB and press the Cursor Selection key O to backup the settings 3 RECOVERY This is the way to recover the settings Use the Cursor Shift k...

Страница 91: ...se the knobs and keys Knobs Mode Knob 84 Range Knob 84 Sector Knob 85 Gain Knob 86 Far Gain Knob 86 Keys Power ON OFF Key 87 Hoist Lower Key 87 Sensor Lamp 87 Bearing Key 88 Tilt Key 89 Cursor key 90...

Страница 92: ...enter Mode can be set via Refer to page 64 RANGE KNOB The basic ranges can be changed 8 ranges can be set via Refer to page 48 The unit of range measurement can be selected via Refer to page 71 The di...

Страница 93: ...hanges this angle Changes this angle Clockwise rotation increases the sector width and counterclockwise rotation decreases it The desired step can be selected via Refer to page 63 SONAR MODE 5 STEP 5...

Страница 94: ...rease the sensitivity of the sonar display The gain value can be set via MENU 2 GAIN UP Refer to page 52 FAR GAIN KNOB Rotating this knob clockwise increases sensitivity of the sonar for the last half...

Страница 95: ...EY LOWER KEY The Hoist and Lower keys raises and lowers the Transducer unit while operating the KDS 5000BB Pressing the Hoist key raises the Transducer unit and the mark on the lower left screen chang...

Страница 96: ...TOM SCAN MODE The direction of the detection range can be shifted 5 step shift This key changes This key changes scanning direction scanning direction counterclockwise clockwise Display of scanning di...

Страница 97: ...ges the scanning center and the Tilt angle TILT Shifts clockwise Shifts counterclockwise Depth beneath Own ship Beneath Own ship 90 Displays the angle and the center of direction Center is Set in the...

Страница 98: ...tilt angle 90 CURSOR KEY Use 2 types one type in case of SOUNDER MODE of Cursor to display the range from own ship to the cursor location Use the Cursor selection key to select the cursor Use the Curs...

Страница 99: ...selection key again when the Marker selected Cross cursor displayed in yellow or no display SONAR MODE Horizontal distance a MARKER Slant distance b This key sets Depth c the marker distance shorter...

Страница 100: ...Target lock key actions are available in the SONAR MODE and in the BOTTOM SCAN MODE MODE 0 only and it is different action depending on the selected menu via MENU 2 TARGET LOCK Setting MODE 0 the trai...

Страница 101: ...R REJECTION KEY This key can eliminate the appearance of unwanted week colors It can eliminate small fish and unidentified objects and display the clearer images Each time this key is pressed one of t...

Страница 102: ...ngs completed Press one of the desired keys 1 2 or 3 to activate the memorized operation menu Even if the settings are changed via MENU 2 or Operation unit the settings in the Operation mode 1 2 or 3...

Страница 103: ...is chaper provides you the explanation related to the optional input output terminals and the remote controller Option Option List 96 Input Output Terminals 98 Input Output Terminals Processor unit 99...

Страница 104: ...gger Output to the Sounders of other companies 5m For DHU 530 P No Description OP 700 DJB 540 Junction Box Mounting Kit For mounting Junction Box on the Hull Unit Hull Unit Junction Box Junction Box M...

Страница 105: ...97 OPTION P No Description ESR 1510 Shaft guides ESR 1511 Shaft guides with adjuster G 100 Grease Bath cork...

Страница 106: ...tact STANDARD SUPPLY TRIG OUT TERMINAL for TRIGGER OUTPUT No1 TRIGGER OUTPUT No2 SHIELD No3 TRIGER OUTPUT STANDARD SUPPLY NAV IN TERMINAL for NAVIGATOR No1 SIGNAL INPUT No2 SIGNAL INPUT No3 SHIELD No4...

Страница 107: ...ified terminal of the Main Board or the External Connecting Board VGA OUTPUT Terminal J3 or J4 on the Main Board No 792 REMOTE CONTROLLER TERMINAL J3 on the External Connecting board No 796 4 Put the...

Страница 108: ...LOR REJECTION CURSOR SEL CURSOR UP CURSOR DOWN CURSOR RIGHT CURSOR LEFT RANGE SHALLOW RANGE DEEP TRANSDUCER UNIT UP TRANSDUCER UNIT DOWN TILT UP TILT DOWN BEARING RIGHT BEARING LEFT OPE MODE 1 All ran...

Страница 109: ...hesive tape across the plus and minus terminals before disposing of the llithium battery Dispose of the lithium battery in accordance with local regulations The KDS 5000BB contains the lithium battery...

Страница 110: ...onal speaker required Stabilizer up to 25 controllable Transducer unit automatic retract Navigator connect required Full screen gain control Language English Japanese External Input Trigger input Navi...

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