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mexico HE 

Installation & Servicing

InstallatIon

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his appliance is fitted with a siphonic 75mm condensate trap 

system that requires filling before operating the appliance for the 

1st time or after maintenance.

All condensate pipework should conform to the following:

a.  Where a new or replacement boiler is being installed, access to 

an internal ‘gravity discharge’ termination should be one of the 

main factors considered in determining boiler location.

b.  Plastic with push fit or solvent connections.

c.  Internal plastic pipe work a minimum of 19mm ID (typically 

22mm OD)

d.  External plastic pipe must be a minimum of 30mm ID (typically 

32 OD) before it passes through the sleeved wall.

e.  All horizontal pipe runs, must fall a minimum of 45mm per metre 

away from the Boiler.

f.  External & unheated pipe work should be kept to a minimum 

and insulated with Class “O” waterproof pipe insulation.

g.  All installations must be carried out in accordance to the 

relevant connection methods as shown in the “Condensate 

installation diagrams” & BS6798:2009

h.  Pipe work must be installed so that it does not allow spillage 

into the dwelling in the event of a blockage (through freezing)

i.  All internal burrs should be removed from the pipe work and any 

fittings.

In order to minimise the risk of freezing during prolonged very cold 

spells, one of the following methods of terminating condensate 

drainage pipe should be adopted.

Internal Drain Connections

Wherever possible, the condensate drainage pipe should be routed 

to drain by gravity to a suitable internal foul water discharge point 

such as an internal soil and vent stack or kitchen or bathroom 

waste pipe etc.  See Figs 1 and 2.

Condensate pump

Where gravity discharge to an internal termination is not physically 

possible or where very long internal pipe runs would be required 

to reach a suitable discharge point, a condensate pump of a 

specification recommended by the boiler or pump manufacturer 

should be used terminating into a suitable internal foul water 

discharge point such as an internal soil and vent stack or internal 

kitchen or bathroom waste pipe etc. (fig 3).

External Drain Connections

The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should 

only be considered after exhausting all internal termination options 

as described previously.  An external system must terminate at a 

suitable foul water discharge point or purpose designed soak away.  

If an external system is chosen then the following measures must 

be adopted:

The external pipe run should be kept to a minimum using the most 

direct and “most vertical” route possible to the discharge point, with 

no horizontal sections in which condensate might collect.
-  For connections to an external soil/vent stack see Fig 4.  

Insulation measures as described should be used.

-  When a rainwater downpipe is used, an air break must be 

installed between the condensate drainage pipe and the 

downpipe to avoid reverse flow of rainwater into the boiler 

should the downpipe become flooded or frozen, see Fig 5.

-  Where the condensate drain pipe terminates over an open 

foul drain or gully, the pipe should terminate below the grating 

level, but above water level, to minimise “wind chill” at the open 

end.  The use of a drain cover (as used to prevent blockage by 

leaves) may offer further prevention from wind chill.  See Fig 6.

-  Where the condensate drain pipe terminates in a purpose 

designed soak away (see BS 6798) any above ground 

condensate drain pipe sections should be run and insulated as 

described above.  See Fig 7

Unheated Internal Areas

Internal condensate drain pipes run in unheated areas, e.g. lofts 

basements and garages, should be treated as external pipe.

Ensure the customer is aware of the effects created by a frozen 

condensate and is shown where this information can be found in 

the user manual.

Boiler

with 75mm 

sealed 

condensate 

trap

Min Ø 19mm 

Internal pipe

Minimum 

connection 

height up to 3 

storeys

Soil & vent stack

≥ 450

75

Boilers without 75mm sealed 

condensate trap must be fitted with 

a 75mm trap and visible air break

Sink/basin/

bath or

shower

Boiler

with 75mm 

sealed 

condensate 

trap

Min Ø 19mm 

Internal pipe

Internal soil & vent stack

Boilers without 75mm sealed 

condensate trap must be fitted with 

a 75mm trap and visible air break

75

≥ 100

≥ 100

Figure 1

 - Connection of Condensate Drainage Pipe to 

Internal Soil & Vent Stack

Figure 2

 - Connection of a Condensate Drainage Pipe 

Downstream of a Sink, Basin, Bath or Shower Water Trap to 

Internal Soil Vent Stack

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Summary of Contents for he15

Page 1: ...can be assured conform to the safety and performance specification that we require Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal For the very latest copy of lit...

Page 2: ...2 mexico HE Installation Servicing...

Page 3: ...ideal installer technical helpline 01482 498663 Notes for the installer Page 7 8 9 Update to standards Page 13 Water Treatment Addition of Adey Page 31 Addition of statement ref to Benchamark Commissi...

Page 4: ...iance designed for connection via ducts to a horizontal or vertical terminal which admits fresh air to the burner and discharges the products of combustion to the outside through orifices which in thi...

Page 5: ...on the back page Page Burner operating pressure measure and record Central heating flow temp measure and record Central heating return temp measure and record For combination boilers only Scale reduce...

Page 6: ...iler Flue Overall Space Dim Model Length Depth Height Width HE15 6m 530 870 460 HE18 6m 530 870 460 HE24 6m 530 870 460 HE30 3m 530 870 460 HE36 3m 530 870 460 INTRODUCTION The mexico HE range of boil...

Page 7: ...he installation must be carried out by a Gas Safe Registered Engineer It must be carried out in accordance with the relevant requirements of the Gas Safety Installation and Use Regulations The appropr...

Page 8: ...e must NOT be used without prior consultation with the local gas supplier The boiler MUST be installed on a gas supply with a governed meter only A gas meter can only be connected by the local gas sup...

Page 9: ...tors not fitted with such a valve as stated in BS 5449 Central heating systems controls should be installed to ensure the boiler is switched off when there is no demand for heating or hot water When t...

Page 10: ...d There should be a minimum height 450mm 18 of open vent above the cistern water level If this is not possible refer to Frame 5 The vertical distance between the highest point of the system and the fe...

Page 11: ...ge pipe The valve or discharge pipe should be positioned so that the discharge of water or steam cannot create a hazard to the occupants of the premises or cause damage to electrical components and wi...

Page 12: ...the inlet side of the pump the connecting pipe being not less than 15 mm 1 2 nominal size and not incorporating valves of any sort b The vessel capacity must be adequate to accept the expansion of the...

Page 13: ...in Central Heating systems If water treatment is used Ideal Stelrad Group recommend only the use of Scalemaster Gold 100 Fernox MB 1 Adey MC1 or Sentinel X100 inhibitors and associated water treatment...

Page 14: ...ide panel 5 RH casing side panel 6 Lower front panel 7 Sump cover plate 9 Return pipe 10 Flow pipe 14 Burner assembly 17 Injector housing 19 Fan assembly 20 Gas pipe assembly 22 Gas valve assembly 25...

Page 15: ...tate upward routing of pipework behind boiler position the template 40mm minimum away from the back wall 2 Using the floor template mark the pre piping frame fixing holes the boiler fixing holes the c...

Page 16: ...cilitated by fitting the boiler in line with the front of 600mm deep kitchen units thus creating a 70mm space behind the boiler 16 Boiler Water Connections mxhe7593 Gas Flow Return Important Ensure th...

Page 17: ...ctions The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should only be considered after exhausting all internal termination options as described previously An external system must terminate at a...

Page 18: ...connection height up to 3 storeys Soil vent stack 450 Boiler with 75mm sealed condensate trap Min 19mm Internal pipe Min 30mm Internal pipe Water weather proof insulation 75 Boilers without 75mm seale...

Page 19: ...at every joint to ensure pipes are held at the correct angle If a slip joint coupling is to be used then a bracket should be used to secure the collar 2 Only use water as lubricant during assembly Not...

Page 20: ...rough the grommet to be found at the top left of the boiler c Using the rubber connecting joint provide a plastic outlet pipe from the pump outlet connection to a suitable drain point connection takin...

Page 21: ...nner tube Ensure support spring clip is in position to facilitate cutting 3 To ensure the tube is cut square mark the flue all the way around 4 De burr the cut edges 1 A maximum of 6 extension ducts f...

Page 22: ...al RS Sealing Plate Flue Finishing Kit 1 Fit black outer wall seal over terminal and ensure the retaining rim is located in the terminal depression 2 Fit flue pipe assembly through the hole previously...

Page 23: ...strip found in the hardware pack box to the flue assembly tube to provide an inner seal to the hole cut in the wall 7 Insert the flue assembly through the prepared hole in the wall 8 Remove the top ou...

Page 24: ...eal must be made This is achieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Universal weather collar Accessories Flue Duct Extension Kits are available for flue lengths extending beyond 1m These pac...

Page 25: ...rse at all times Pluming may occur at the termination so where possible terminal positions where this could cause a nuisance should be avoided Minimum dimensions are shown below mxhe7686 mxhe7687 32 F...

Page 26: ...rately into the boiler flue connection and retain with the four securing screws provided 4 Push fit extension duct F if required supplied separately and the roof flue kit assembly A into the vertical...

Page 27: ...tion correctly Ensure that the lengths of the live and neutral wires are shorter than the earth wires so that if the cable slips in its anchorage the current carrying wire become taut before the earth...

Page 28: ...xhe7604 br br r r r bk E b y g Spark generator Dry fire thermistor or or External switch Cond Pump Alarm br b Spark generator b bk bk br b b bk r v r br b r r b r r r or or or or pk pk y y Ferrite y g...

Page 29: ...ould be 3A Room Thermostat If the thermostat has a neutral connection use it It provides for more energy efficient operation by reducing switching temperature differentials Frost Protection If parts o...

Page 30: ...r will then repeat its ignition sequence When the burner is established the WHITE burner ON neon D will be permanently illuminated 10 CHECK the operationAL working gas inlet pressure With the boiler o...

Page 31: ...d the use and adjustment of ALL system controls should be fully explained to the householder to ensure the greatest possible fuel economy consistent with household requirements of both heating and hot...

Page 32: ...ified then contact Ideal Competence to carry out the check of Combustion Performance PLEASE NOTE BS6798 2009 Specification for Installation and maintenance of Gas Fired boiler of rated input not excee...

Page 33: ...eaning 1 Remove the 6 fixings securing the burner the 3 screws at the rear are extended to ease access 2 Lift off the burner from the combustion chamber Important The burner head is a ceramic plaque c...

Page 34: ...nel Important Ensure the boiler sealing panel is correctly fitted and that a good seal is made 7 Refit the boiler front panels 8 Turn on the gas supply at the gas service cock 9 Reconnect the electric...

Page 35: ...te Only the boiler front panels need removing on the HE15 18 and 24 models 3 Pull the electrical leads off the flow thermistor and remove earth connection 4 Remove the two screws retaining the flow th...

Page 36: ...Fit the new fan venturi assembly 10 Reassemble the boiler in reverse order taking care not to over tighten the screw on the fan mounting bracket 11 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Frame 51...

Page 37: ...9 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frame 51 55 ignition electrode replacement 1 Refer to Frame 51 2 Remove the boiler front panels and inner sealing panel Refer to Frames 44 and 45 3 Unplug the...

Page 38: ...valve 5 Undo the union nut at the gas valve pre piping frame connection 6 Undo the union nut on the outlet side of the gas control valve and remove valve 7 Undo the 4 gas valve bracket screws bracket...

Page 39: ...brackets to the new control box 7 Reassemble in reverse order 8 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frame 51 N B To change the user control only 9 Loosen the screw on the underside of the user cont...

Page 40: ...oiler Refer to Frame 51 1 Refer to Frame 51 2 Remove the boiler front panels and inner sealing panel HE30 and HE36 only Refer to Frames 44 and 45 3 Pull off the 2 electrical leads from the thermostat...

Page 41: ...s should now be placed into it 11 Sweep any dampened particles and place in the plastic bag 12 Fit new insulation board a Locate and align the insulation with the electrode holes and position the insu...

Page 42: ...Remove burner refer to frame 47 10 Remove ignition electrode frame 55 detection electrode frame 56 11 HE30 HE36 models only Remove the spark generator frame 57 and remove the electrical connections fr...

Page 43: ...ect length for the relevant sides 6 Reassemble in reverse order Note Ensure that the boiler sealing panel is correctly seated compressing the seal to make an airtight joint 7 Check operation of boiler...

Page 44: ...5 wires from the terminal strip e Lift the condensate pump from the two screw fixings f Pull the pump forward and remove the wiring through the top grommet 4 Undo the plastic union nut on the condens...

Page 45: ...The key to the display codes is as follows IF BOILER FAILS TO RUN WHEN DEMAND IS PRESENT GO TO FRAME 71 71 Condensate Pump Failure Is switched live present on the L2 terminal NO yes Power down the bo...

Page 46: ...greater than 150V indicates that the correct voltage is supplied to the gas valve As an alternative to a multimeter a mains checking device may be used E g an electrical screwdriver or a mains tester...

Page 47: ...ter connected across the thermistors terminal pins At 25 o C expect 9 700 10 300 Ohms At 60 o C expect 2 400 2 600 Ohms At 85 o C expect 1 000 1 100 Ohms Remove the boiler flow thermistor from the CH...

Page 48: ...expect 2 400 2 600 Ohms At 85 o C expect 1 000 1 100 Ohms Are dry fire thermistor values correct Replace PCB Replace dry fire thermistor Fill and vent the system and open all isolating valves yes Chec...

Page 49: ...Ideal Failure to do so could affect safety or performance of this appliance Comprehensive spares parts information and details of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on www idealparts com...

Page 50: ......

Page 51: ...ommissioning checklist completed in full To instigate the boiler guarantee the boiler needs to be registered with the manufacturer within one month of the installation To maintain the boiler guarantee...

Page 52: ...priate Building Regulations and then handed to the customer to keep for future reference GAS BOILER SYSTEM COMMISSIONING CHECKLIST CONTROLS Programmable room thermostat Optimum start control Combinati...

Page 53: ...larly and that the appropriate Service Interval Record is completed Service Provider SERVICE RECORD SERVICE 01 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 02 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 03 A...

Page 54: ...eck the integrity of the whole flue system to confirm that all components are correctly assembled fixed and supported Check that maximum flue lengths have not been exceeded and all guidance has been f...

Page 55: ...components are assembled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during insta...

Page 56: ...echnical Training Centre offers a series of first class training courses for domestic commercial and industrial heating installers engineers and system specifiers For details of courses please ring 01...

Page 57: ...art on this appliance use only spare parts that you can be assured conform to the safety and performance specification that we require Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly...

Page 58: ...k scheme and fully supports the aims of the programme Benchmark has been introduced to improve the standards of installation and commissioning of central heating systems in the UK and to encourage the...

Page 59: ...nstructions below please call your local Gas Safe Registered installer for assistance b If you do feel competent to carry out the following instructions please do so with care when handling hot utensi...

Page 60: ...installer contacted Check if ALL radiators have thermostatic radiator valves fitted If they have contact your installer Boiler is not working for central heating or hot water and the display shows H A...

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