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Installation and Servicing

 

SECTION 2 - INSTALLATION

 

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2.11  CONDENSATE DRAIN

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his appliance is fitted with a siphonic 75mm condensate trap 

system that requires filling before operating the appliance for the 

1st time or after maintenance.

All condensate pipework should conform to the following:
a.  Where a new or replacement boiler is being installed, access to 

an internal ‘gravity discharge’ termination should be one of the 
main factors considered in determining boiler location.

b.  Plastic with push fit or solvent connections.

c.  Internal plastic pipe work a minimum of 19mm ID (typically 

22mm OD)

d.  External plastic pipe must be a minimum of 30mm ID (typically 

32 OD) before it passes through the sleeved wall.

e.  All horizontal pipe runs, must fall a minimum of 45mm per metre 

away from the Boiler.

f.  External & unheated pipe work should be kept to a minimum 

and insulated with Class “O” waterproof pipe insulation.

g.  All installations must be carried out in accordance to the 

relevant connection methods as shown in the “Condensate 
installation diagrams” & BS6798.

h.  Pipe work must be installed so that it does not allow spillage 

into the dwelling in the event of a blockage (through freezing)

i.  All internal burrs should be removed from the pipe work and any 

fittings.

In order to minimise the risk of freezing during prolonged very cold 

spells, one of the following methods of terminating condensate 
drainage pipe should be adopted.

Internal Drain Connections

Wherever possible, the condensate drainage pipe should be routed 
to drain by gravity to a suitable internal foul water discharge point 
such as an internal soil and vent stack or kitchen or bathroom 
waste pipe etc.  See Figs 1 and 2.

Note

. For installations where the PRV is required to terminate 

into the Condensate Drain Pipe, a proprietary termination and 

back flow prevention kit MUST be purchased separately from a 

plumbers merchant.  The installation instructions for the kit MUST 
be followed.

Condensate Pump

Where gravity discharge to an internal termination is not physically 
possible or where very long internal pipe runs would be required 
to reach a suitable discharge point, a condensate pump of a 

specification recommended by the boiler or pump manufacturer 

should be used terminating into a suitable internal foul water 
discharge point such as an internal soil and vent stack or internal 

kitchen or bathroom waste pipe etc. (fig 3).

External Drain Connections

The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should 
only be considered after exhausting all internal termination options 
as described previously.  An external system must terminate at a 
suitable foul water discharge point or purpose designed soak away.  
If an external system is chosen then the following measures must 
be adopted:

The external pipe run should be kept to a minimum using the most 
direct and “most vertical” route possible to the discharge point, with 

no horizontal sections in which condensate might collect.

For connections to an external soil/vent stack see Fig 4.  
Insulation measures as described should be used.

When a rainwater downpipe is used, an air break must be 
installed between the condensate drainage pipe and the 

downpipe to avoid reverse flow of rainwater into the boiler 

should the downpipe become flooded or frozen, see Fig 5.

Where the condensate drain pipe terminates in a purpose 
designed soak away (see BS 6798) any above ground 
condensate drain pipe sections should be run and insulated as 
described above. See Fig 6.

Where the condensate drain pipe terminates over an open 
foul drain or gully, the pipe should terminate below the grating 
level, but above water level, to minimise “wind chill” at the open 
end.  The use of a drain cover (as used to prevent blockage by 
leaves) may offer further prevention from wind chill.

Unheated Internal Areas

Internal condensate drain pipes run in unheated areas, e.g. lofts 
basements and garages, should be treated as external pipe.

Ensure the customer is aware of the effects created by a frozen 

condensate and is shown where this information can be found in 
the user manual.

Condensate
Drain

Condensate
Drain

199

140

58

Boiler

with 75mm 

sealed 

condensate 

trap

Min Ø 19mm 

Internal pipe

Minimum 

connection 

height up to 3 

storeys

Soil & vent stack

≥ 450

Sink/basin/

bath or

shower

Boiler

with 75mm 

sealed 

condensate 

trap

Min Ø 19mm 

Internal pipe

Internal soil & vent stack

≥ 100

Figure 1

 - Connection of Condensate Drainage Pipe to 

Internal Soil & Vent Stack

Figure 2

 - Connection of a Condensate Drainage Pipe 

Downstream of a Sink, Basin, Bath or Shower Water Trap to 
Internal Soil Vent Stack

continued . . . . . 

Содержание VOGUE COMBI C32IE

Страница 1: ...o not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Boilers For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website idealb...

Страница 2: ...P1 kW 5 9 8 5 10 4 Auxiliary Electricity Consumption Full Load elmax kW 0 047 0 063 0 044 Part Load elmin kW 0 014 0 011 0 01 Standby PSB kW 0 003 0 003 0 003 Seasonal Space Heating Energy Efficiency...

Страница 3: ...V Class VI Class VII Class VIII 1 2 1 5 2 3 4 3 5 5 PRODUCT FICHE The energy efficiency of the package of products provided for in this document may not correspond to its actual energy efficiency once...

Страница 4: ...4 Installation and Servicing...

Страница 5: ...oilers reserve the right to vary specification without notice NOTE BOILER RESTART PROCEDURE To restart the boiler press RESTART button on the control panel The boiler will repeat the ignition sequence...

Страница 6: ...6 Installation and Servicing...

Страница 7: ...Boiler Front Panel Removal Replacement 49 3 3 Lowering the Controls Panel 49 3 4 Fan Venturi Assembly Removal Cleaning 50 3 5 Removal of Injector 50 3 6 Burner Removal Cleaning 51 3 7 Cleaning the Con...

Страница 8: ...3 Gas Consumption m3 h 1 869 2 695 3 314 0 383 0 472 0 590 Boiler Output Non Condensing kW 18 0 26 0 32 0 3 7 4 6 5 7 70o C Mean Water temp Condensing kW 19 3 27 9 34 3 4 0 4 9 6 1 40o C Mean Water t...

Страница 9: ...record Cold water inlet temp measure record Hot water outlet temp measure record Water flow rate at max setting measure record For condensing boilers only Condensate drain 25 26 For all boilers comple...

Страница 10: ...at is selected from the menu When there is a demand for CH the heating system is supplied at the selected temperature of between 30o C and 80o C until DHW is drawn off The full output from the boiler...

Страница 11: ...ances of rated input not exceeding 70 kW BSEN 12828 Heating Systems in buildings Design for water based heating systems BSEN 12831 Heating Systems in buildings Method for calculation of the design hea...

Страница 12: ...that the terminal is exposed to external air 2 It is important that the position of the terminal allows the free passage of air across it at all times 3 Minimum acceptable spacing from the terminal t...

Страница 13: ...perature in a space served by radiators not fitted with such a valve When thermostatic radiator valves are used the space heating temperature control over a living dining area or hallway having a heat...

Страница 14: ...de the building where Front clearance The minimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance is still required with the cupboard door open to...

Страница 15: ...Table above 5 Filling The system may be filled by the following method Where the mains pressure is excessive a pressure reducing valve must be used to facilitate filling Notes a The method of filling...

Страница 16: ...le 2 a scale reducing device should be fitted into the boiler cold supply within the requirements of the local water company Water softener SHOULD be used in the event that the installation site has a...

Страница 17: ...dge 125 Water Pressure Switch 127 Pressure Gauge 203 Pipe Gas Inlet 204 Gas Valve 205 Injector Gas 207 Venturi 208 Fan 209 Gasket Fan Venturi 210 Fan Adaptor 211 Venturi Deflector 212 Condensate Hose...

Страница 18: ...B E H Boiler Guarantee Gas Valve Pack HARDWARE PACK CONTENTS Gas Valve Pack 1 Pipe Gas Inlet 2 Washer Gas blue 3 Gas Cock Filling Loop Pack 1 3 8 Top Hat Washer 2 Valve Filling Loop 3 Pipe Filling Loo...

Страница 19: ...D B C E UNPACKING CONT D INSTALLATION Note This flue system incorporates a removable flue outlet nose that utilises a push fit location system This enables the installation of deflector high level or...

Страница 20: ...a 5 core boring tool ensuring that the hole is square to the wall Both wall faces immediately around the cut hole should be flat 2 Drill 2 mounting holes marked from template with a 7 5mm 8mm masonry...

Страница 21: ...ted in accordance to the installation instructions provided with them The TURRET supplied in the B Pack has an upper combustion sample point with a screw cap seal and a lower air sample point with an...

Страница 22: ...escopic Horizontal Flue Terminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Cut 75mm Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum B Pack Standard 233 602 340 553 652 869 577 794 Plus 1 1m D pack...

Страница 23: ...3 Check that both flue seams are at the top and the outlet terminal is upper most 4 Drill a 3 5mm hole through one of the 2 outer side holes into the inserted outer flue Take care not to pierce the in...

Страница 24: ...m its mounting and will need to be refitted 9 When 1st mark is in line with the wall whilst holding the flue firmly push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd of the two marks is jus...

Страница 25: ...d by the boiler or pump manufacturer should be used terminating into a suitable internal foul water discharge point such as an internal soil and vent stack or internal kitchen or bathroom waste pipe e...

Страница 26: ...pipe Water Weather proof insulation Max 3m external pipework Limestone chippings 500 300 25 2 rows of three 12mm holes 25mm centres 50mm from the bottom of the tube facing away from the house Minimum...

Страница 27: ...g a separately supplied vertical connector WEATHER PROOFING Where the flue passes through the roof line an adequate seal must be made This is achieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Unive...

Страница 28: ...enetrate the shaded area of the roof Note The equivalent flue length resistance of the elbow kits are 90o elbow kit 1m 45o elbow kit 0 6m If chimney penetrates dotted area such that A is less than 300...

Страница 29: ...with the instructions provided with the vertical connector kit 3 Secure the vertical connector by applying downward pressure on the connector 4 Position the clamp on the top face of the flue manifold...

Страница 30: ...Fit the DHW outlet pipe tail to DHW outlet connection ensuring the seal provided is correctly located 3 Fit the filling loop provided between the DHW inlet valve and the CH return valve GAS CONNECTIO...

Страница 31: ...valve and fit the grey cap to the open end 8 Fit the Plug to the free end of the filling loop Note Open all DHW taps to ensure water is flowing freely Once satisfied close all taps Top Up 1 Ensure fi...

Страница 32: ...tions 2 17 INSTALLER WIRING MAINS The Vogue Combi IE GEN2 boiler comes pre fitted with 1 8m of mains cable This must be connected to a permanent live supply and NOT switched by thermostats programmers...

Страница 33: ...en the Room Thermostat Timer connections on the terminal strip This creates a permanent call for heat and must be removed when adding a Room Thermostat Timer 2 19 INTERNAL WIRING EXTERNAL CONTROLS To...

Страница 34: ...onal Timer Optional Timer DIAGRAM C Use of General Live for Room Stat Optional Room Stat Frost Stat Mains In Frost Room Stat Stat L N Optional Timer DIAGRAM A DIAGRAM B Room Stat with External Timer P...

Страница 35: ...IP COM BUS RX NC CHIP COM BUS GND CHIP COM BUS 5V CHIP COM BUS TX CHIP COM BUS RX CHIP COM BUS 24V CHIP COM BUS GND CHIP COM BUS 5V CHIP COM BUS RX MAINS LIVE MAINS NEUTRAL AUXILIARY LIVE IONISATION 2...

Страница 36: ...valve Having checked That the boiler has been installed in accordance with these instructions The integrity of the flue system and the flue seals as described in the Flue Installation section Proceed...

Страница 37: ...hat the DHW Temperature Control Knob E is turned fully anti clockwise into the off position 8 Check that the gas service cock I is OPEN 9 Slacken the screw in the inlet pressure test point H and conne...

Страница 38: ...check the gas rate at the gas meter with no other appliances in use Refer to Section 1 8 for gas rates Ensure that with the boiler operating the dynamic gas pressure is able to obtain maximum output R...

Страница 39: ...d Off CH Demand Off Preheat enabled MENU READY PREHEAT ON READY TIMER OR ROOM THERMOSTAT OFF DHW Demand On CH Demand On MENU ON HOT WATER PRIORITY ON 60 C Pre heat Demand On MENU READY TIMER OR ROOM T...

Страница 40: ...O C OFF SELECT MAXIMUM RADIATOR TEMPERATURE To switch the CH function OFF Rotate the CH Temperature Control Knob fully anti clockwise the screen below will be shown EXIT OFF 80 O C 30 O C OFF SELECT M...

Страница 41: ...n will be displayed EXIT SELECT MENU HOT WATER PREHEAT ON OFF SERVICE COMPANY NAME SHOW EFFICIENCY LEVEL Press MENU SHOW EFFICIENCY LEVEL HOT WATER PREHEAT ON OFF SERVICE COMPANY PHONE NUMBER SERVICE...

Страница 42: ...en is displayed EXIT SELECT MENU FAULT HELP VENT SYSTEM FAULT HISTORY CHANGE SERVICE INTERVAL Press SELECT and a screen similar to the following will be displayed EXIT NEXT PREV FAULT HISTORY LOW WATE...

Страница 43: ...MENU and the following screen will be displayed EXIT SELECT MENU HOT WATER PREHEAT ON OFF SERVICE COMPANY NAME SHOW EFFICIENCY LEVEL Press MENU SHOW EFFICIENCY LEVEL HOT WATER PREHEAT ON OFF SERVICE C...

Страница 44: ...VICE COMPANY PHONE NUMBER SERVICE COMPANY NAME MAX OFF MAX OFF SELECT EXIT until the following screen is displayed EXIT SELECT MENU PUMP MODULATION PLOT GRAPHS SERVICE MODE MAXIMUM FLOW TEMPERATURE Pr...

Страница 45: ...L HOT WATER PREHEAT ON OFF SERVICE COMPANY PHONE NUMBER SERVICE COMPANY NAME MAX OFF MAX OFF SELECT EXIT until the following screen is displayed EXIT SELECT MENU PLOT GRAPHS 3 WAY VALVE MIDPOSITION SE...

Страница 46: ...Y NAME MAX OFF MAX OFF SELECT EXIT until the following screen will be displayed EXIT SELECT MENU PUMP MODULATION 3 WAY VALVE MIDPOSITION PLOT GRAPHS Press SELECT and the following screen will be displ...

Страница 47: ...es 3 The operation of the boiler and the use and adjustment of all system controls should be fully explained to the householder to ensure the greatest possible fuel economy consistent with the househo...

Страница 48: ...in sequence IMPORTANT 6 After completing the servicing or exchange of components always ensure all gas valve connections are gas tight with a gas soundness check up to the gas control valve 7 When wo...

Страница 49: ...panel back into position engaging the securing screws 4 Re tighten the securing screws 3 3 LOWERING THE CONTROLS PANEL ACCESSING MAINS WIRING 3b 1 1 Once the front panel has been removed the controls...

Страница 50: ...To remove the fan first remove the venturi as above and release the 3 screws securing the fan to the burner Note a mounting spacer is fitted to the fan outlet on 40 model only 10 Remove the fan from...

Страница 51: ...ater 5 Refit in reverse order making sure the trap is engaged with the outlet connection 6 Re position CH water pressure switch 2 1 Refer to Sections 3 2 3 3 2 To remove Fan Burner and Venturi Assembl...

Страница 52: ...he heat exchanger connected 3 Refit the fan to the burner assembly Refer to Section 3 4 4 Refit the venturi to the fan and burner assembly Refer to Section 3 4 5 Refit the burner fan venturi assembly...

Страница 53: ...fit the venturi checking the sealing gasket is undamaged or replace as necessary and secure with the 2 screws Note a noise damper is fitted to the venturi inlet on 40kW and 32kW models Note a mounting...

Страница 54: ...move the fan leads 5 Remove the 4 securing nuts retaining the burner door fan assembly 6 Remove the assembly from the heat exchanger 7 To remove the venturi release the 2 securing screws 8 To remove t...

Страница 55: ...rner door assembly and secure with the 2 screws ensuring correct orientation 7 Reconnect the ignition lead and earth 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 24 to 2 27 1 Refer to Secti...

Страница 56: ...boiler Refer to Sections 2 24 to 2 27 1 Refer to Sections 3 2 3 3 2 Remove the gas inlet pipe Refer to Section 3 4 3 Unplug the electrical connection 4 Disconnect the gas service cock refer to Sectio...

Страница 57: ...of the valve body 6 Fit the new motor ensuring the arm is correctly engaged in the metal fork and re assemble in reverse order 7 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 24 to 2 27 3 20...

Страница 58: ...order 8 Turn power on and follow the on screen instrucitons as shown Installer Initialise PCB YES Press YES Installer Switch mains off wait 5s then switch mains on Installer Processing Select boiler m...

Страница 59: ...during replacement of components 3 After replacing any component on the boiler open the DHW inlet isolating valve and vent the DHW system by opening all hot taps and ensuring water flows from each tap...

Страница 60: ...drawing the capillary carefully through the rubber grommet and out of the boiler 8 Refit in reverse order Refill the CH system Refer to Section 2 15 9 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Secti...

Страница 61: ...ed screwdriver in the diverter valve motor body slot provided and ease out the motor Refer to Section 3 19 6 Remove the return thermistor electrical connection Refer to Section 3 14 7 Remove the pump...

Страница 62: ...ecessary Refer to Section 2 15 10 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 24 to 2 27 1 Refer to Sections 3 2 3 3 2 Close the isolating service valves and drain the CH boiler Refer to Sec...

Страница 63: ...gulator 5 Clean or replace filter as necessary 6 Reassemble in reverse order 7 Refill the boiler Refer to Section 2 15 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 25 to 2 27 1 Refer to Sec...

Страница 64: ...e lead 8 Remove the horseshoe bracket and lift up the flue turret 9 Remove the securing screws and disconnect the flue outlet 10 Remove the 4 screws securing the heat exchanger fixing brackets 11 Remo...

Страница 65: ...casing at the same time holding the ignitor bracket to prevent movement 5 Hold the expansion vessel and move the ignition assembly bracket carefully to one side 6 Pull the bottom of the expansion vess...

Страница 66: ...4 13 No Connection to Primary PCB 5 Restarts within 15 minutes Turn power off and on Go to Section 4 6 Flame On before Gas Valve On Go to Section 4 7 Flow Thermistor Fault Go to Section 4 8 Outside S...

Страница 67: ...17 Are these functioning correctly Check Ignition Electrode and associated Harness for continuity visual condition and position refer to Section 3 15 Are these functioning correctly Check Syphon and c...

Страница 68: ...sociated Harness for continuity visual condition and position Check if the Condensate Pipe is blocked Check if the Flue is blocked Replace as necessary Check Gas Supply and rectify fault Check wiring...

Страница 69: ...Flame Sense Electrode Is there continuity between the Electrode and earth Is there continuity in the wiring from the primary PCB to the Thermistor 8 way connector connections 3 and 4 black and pink D...

Страница 70: ...onnector connections 5 and 4 black and red Is there 230Vac at the blue and brown connections to the 3 way connection on the Fan Does the wiring from the Water Pressure Switch to the PCB have continuit...

Страница 71: ...ault disappear Are the Radiator Valves open Is an Ideal Electronic Programmable Room Stat connected Is there 230Vac at A Check wiring from PCB to Diverter Valve Replace Diverter Valve No No No Yes No...

Страница 72: ...rature rise and check filter fitted in turbine is not blocked with debris Replace or reconnect as appropriate Re engage diverter valve head and secure clip to waterset Is there 230Vac to the boiler at...

Страница 73: ...ils of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on www idealparts com Our Parts team are also available to help with your Ideal Spare Parts enquiries on 01482 498665 When calling and to ensure...

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Страница 75: ...ommissioning checklist completed in full To instigate the boiler guarantee the boiler needs to be registered with the manufacturer within one month of the installation To maintain the boiler guarantee...

Страница 76: ...priate Building Regulations and then handed to the customer to keep for future reference GAS BOILER SYSTEM COMMISSIONING CHECKLIST CONTROLS Programmable room thermostat Optimum start control Combinati...

Страница 77: ...larly and that the appropriate Service Interval Record is completed Service Provider SERVICE RECORD SERVICE 01 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 02 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 03 A...

Страница 78: ...ITTED BY PERSONS OTHER THAN THE BOILER INSTALLER visually check the integrity of the whole flue system to confirm that all components are correctly assembled fixed and supported Check that maximum flu...

Страница 79: ...bled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during installation Rectify if ne...

Страница 80: ...he code of practice for the installation commissioning servicing of central heating systems Ideal Boilers Ltd PO Box 103 National Avenue Kingston Upon Hull HU5 4JN Tel 01482 492251 Fax 01482 448858 Re...

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