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Overview Antifeedback 

Audio feedback (also known as acoustic feedback, simply as feedback, or the Larsen effect) is a special kind of 
positive feedback which occurs when a sound loop exists between an audio input (for example, a microphone or 
guitar pickup) and an audio output (for example, a loudspeaker). 
When acoustical feedback occurs in a sound system, it is because the gain of the system is too high. Feedback 
will occur at specific frequencies before others; these  are the frequencies  with the most gain. If the gain  at only 
these specific frequencies is reduced, then the system can operate  with more overall  gain  before it feeds  back, 
without a perceptible difference in tonal quality.  
The  antifeedback  algorithm  inside  the  mixer  unit  discriminates  accurately  between  feedback  and  non-feedback 
sounds (speech and music). When this algorithm detects feedback, it inserts a -3 dB, 1/11 octave (Q = 16) notch 
filter into the audio path to reduce the gain at the frequency which is feeding back. If the feedback does not stop, 
the filter depth is increased in -0.5 dB steps (up to -20 dB) until the feedback stops.  
The antifeedback algorithm could assign up to 5 notch filters for each one of first four output channel. 
The antifeedback filtering chain is composed by two typologies of notch filters: 

AUTO

 and 

MANUAL.

  

 

AUTO Filters 

AUTO filters are managed automatically by the identification feedback algorithm, which inserts them at detected 
feedback  frequencies.  AUTO  filters  have  fixed  bandwidth  equal  to  1/11  octave,  narrow  enough  to  remove 
feedback effectively and preserve audio quality.   
In case of all AUTO notch filters are set and a new feedback frequency is detected, the antifeedback will remove 
the oldest AUTO filter to reassign it at the new critical frequency.  
AUTO filters can be locked switching their filter mode from AUTO to MANUAL. In such case, their setup is saved 
with preset storing operation. 
AUTO filters would be appropriate in a system that has several non-stationary wired/wireless microphones. 
 

MANUAL Filters 

MANUAL  filters  are  settable  by  user,  typically  at  the  end  of  “Ring-Out”  setup  procedure  (see  below),  and  their 
configuration is saved with preset storing operation.  
Notch  attenuation  is  choosable  in  the  range  from  0  dB  to  -20  dB  while  notch  bandwidth  is  selectable  between 
6,67 and 0,014 octaves (Q = 0,1 and Q = 100 respectively). 
MANUAL filters would be suitable in a sound system which has fixed microphone and loudspeaker locations. In 
this  type  of  system,  the  most  feedback  frequencies  are  defined  by  the  room  size  and  the  microphone  and 
loudspeaker placement, and will not change appreciably. 

 

Setup Procedures for Feedback Control

 

There are two basic ways in which to setup the antifeedback: the “Ring Out” and the "Be Alert" procedures.  
 

Ring Out” Procedure 

The  “Ring  Out”  method  is  a  precautionary  measure  in  which  the  preset  volume  is  raised  beyond  the  normal 
setting to deliberately make the system feed back. The antifeedback will then set its notch filters. Then, the preset 
volume is reduced slightly to restore sound system stability.  
This setup procedure is commonly used for sound systems which are operated near the feedback  point where a 
perceptive annoying “metallic” sound is noticed as well as an altered tone quality. 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Страница 1: ...User guide Andante 8 October 2019 Audio Vertriebs Entwicklungsgesellschaft mbH Andante 8 Digital Mixer with 8 mic line inputs and 4 outputs User Guide...

Страница 2: ...3 Section 1 user Operation of the Andante 8 in user mode 4 Section 2 qualified personnel Installing the software 5 Programming the Andante 8 6 Detailed description of automatic mixer and anti feedback...

Страница 3: ...are hazardous voltages Do not remove the cover Internal modifications or service work should only be conducted by qualified service personnel The Andante 8 is supplied with a proper power supply cable...

Страница 4: ...otal volume will be increased or decreased master volume Select preset With the p p button a desired preset is selected Input level 1 8 Press the select Sel button and turn v v key to increase or to d...

Страница 5: ...tc The following modifications must to be carried out by qualified personnel Installing the software Start the installation program by clicking on the appearing desktop folder and then clicking on set...

Страница 6: ...the left mouse bottom on File and then on New Project Specify the type of device and confirm by pressing OK This window shows all the functions of the mixer With the zoom on the bottom right you can a...

Страница 7: ...selection options is opened New Project A new project is created Open Project An existig project is opened Save Projekt The project is saved Save Project As The project can be saved under a different...

Страница 8: ...e to give the preset a name to retrieve it again via Preset Retrieve Der System Manager Start Up Preset Choice of the start preset Main VU Meter Choice of the VU meters Knobs Protection By pressing an...

Страница 9: ...Analog Gain dB Parametric Equalizer Input Hum filter 160 Hz Lowpass highpass filter 8 band parametric equalizer 8 parameters are available for each input and each output The settings can be copied to...

Страница 10: ...e Gates Input Noise Gate On Out Threshold dB Hold time ms Compressor Input On Out Threshold dB Ratio Post Gain dB Attack time ms Release time ms Faders Input Level Setting Input option for programmer...

Страница 11: ...rophones are activated simultaneously Priority Detailed description of the automixer on page 16 Matrix Matrix on out Level Setting dB After pressing the right mouse bottom a pull down menu opens It al...

Страница 12: ...guide Andante 8 page 12 Level setting Input option for programmer to change the volume at the output Level Output Delay Output Delay m Phase Equalizer Output Parametric EQ GraphicEQ Lowpass Highpass f...

Страница 13: ...User guide Andante 8 page 13 Each output has a 31 band graphic equalizer All parameters can be copied to the other EQs or individually adjusted for each output...

Страница 14: ...User guide Andante 8 page 14 Anti Feedbacks Outputs Detailed description of the antifeedback functions on page 16 Noise Gates Output On Off Threshold dB Hold time ms...

Страница 15: ...User guide Andante 8 page 15 Compressor Output On Off Schwelle dB Ratio Post Gain dB Attack time ms Release time ms Limiter Output Limiter On Off Output On Off Output On Off...

Страница 16: ...some frequencies and canceling the sound at others Moreover multiple opened microphones could easily create multiple potential feedback loops and consequently input gain must be limited Automixer is a...

Страница 17: ...nuation The off attenuation parameter allows attenuation of inactive inputs from 0 dB to 60 dB When hold time is elapsed the off attenuation is smoothly inserted Practical experience has shown that a...

Страница 18: ...narrow enough to remove feedback effectively and preserve audio quality In case of all AUTO notch filters are set and a new feedback frequency is detected the antifeedback will remove the oldest AUTO...

Страница 19: ...me to the level at which the system will be operated 8 Finally for sound system with stationary microphones set each notch filter to MANUAL mode wireless microphones leave each notch filter in AUTO mo...

Страница 20: ...dth is a good combination of response time and fidelity Manual The notch filter is set by the user with fixed frequency attenuation and bandwidth independent of a feedback detection Important remarks...

Страница 21: ...evel setting The same procedure applies for input 2 16 at output 1 The same procedure applies for input 1 16 at output 2 8 To return to the main menu press the w w button briefly Preset Setup By brief...

Страница 22: ...n you leave the Preset Setup and enter System Setup Briefly press to enter the menu Startup preset Turn w w button Selection of presets with which the device starts at switching on Turn p p button Mai...

Страница 23: ...A weighted Residual noise of output driver 101 dBu 20 Hz 20 kHz Nominal level balanced output 4 dBu 1 23 Vrms Maximum level balanced output 20 2 dBu 7 92 Vrms Output impedance 50 typical Output prote...

Страница 24: ...ms Automix function Hold Time 100 ms 5000 ms Attenuation 60 dB 0 dB NOM Gain increase post gain of 3 dB for each doubling of opened automix channels Priority 1 lowest 5 highest Max opened channels 1 1...

Страница 25: ...ay LCD 20 characters x 2 lines PSU Module AC range 230 VAC 10 Input frequency 47 Hz to 67 Hz Power consumption max 33 W Analog voltages 48 VDC 15 VDC 5 VDC Digital voltages 3 3 VDC 1 2 VDC Voltage reg...

Страница 26: ...nder any patent or patent rights of AVE mbH Specifications mentioned in this publication are subject to change without notice This publication supersedes and replaces all information previously suppli...

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