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3 - INFORMATION FOR SET UP

KID 80 SIV

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PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES: DESCRIPTION

0)  BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING
1)  Carriage in its "completely backwards position"
2)  Bar pusher in its "completely backwards position"
3)  Carriage in "completely forwards position"
4)  Short feed gate (flag)
5)  Bar pusher in its "completely forwards position"
6) Spindle
7)  Headstock in its "completely backwards position"
8)  Headstock in its "completely forwards position"
9)  Rest in its "completely backwards position"
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Rest in its "completely forwards position"

(X) Fixed headstock lathe
(Y) Sliding headstock lathe
(Z) Sliding rest lathe

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Summary of Contents for KID 80 IV Touch

Page 1: ...015445 S N COMPILER Bosi Andrea ON APPROVAL Moretti Maurizio This manual is a translation of the original document AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER ATTACHMENTS LIST MANUAL FOR USE AND MAINTENANCE KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL SPARE PARTS BOOK SCHEMATICS EC CONFORMITY DECLARATION FOR MACHINE ...

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Page 3: ...za RA Italy Tel 0546 698000 Fax 0546 46224 MANUFACTURER IEMCA A BUCCI AUTOMATIONS DIVISION ADDRESS Via Granarolo 167 48018 Faenza RA ITALY Tel 0546 698000 Fax 0546 46224 TYPE OF DOCUMENT KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL PRODUCT AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER MODEL KID 80 IV Touch ...

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Page 5: ...EXITING THE PARAMETERS 15 2 10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY 16 2 11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 20 2 12 ERRORS CAUSES SOLUTIONS 57 2 13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA DISPLAY MODE 71 3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV 1 3 1 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DISPLAY 2 3 2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS 2 3 3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 5 3 4 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES DESCRIPTI...

Page 6: ...A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA 3 B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR 4 D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES 8 E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS 9 F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE 11 G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST 12 ...

Page 7: ...1 BASIC INFORMATION KID 80 SIV EN 1 Pag 1 7 INDEX 1 1 Control description 3 ...

Page 8: ...eserves the right to make changes to the products described herein at any time Thus this document may not not exactly match the product The data contained herein relate to a product range and are not specific to the serial number appearing on the cover ...

Page 9: ...matic mode even when the lathe MAN AUT signal is in Manual mode INFORMATION When the bar feeder is in Automatic mode the bar feeding is possible only when the Lathe MAN AUT signal is in Automatic mode INFORMATION By pressing the Manual mode button on the touch keyboard you can prevent the lathe from starting the bar feeder in Automatic mode ...

Page 10: ... the machine 1 TOUCH SCREEN display and main controls 2 MAIN SWITCH turns the power supply on and off Position 0 OFF the machine is not powered Position I ON the machine is powered 3 EMERGENCY STOP PUSH BUTTON stops the bar feeder in case of emergency For restart release the push button manually ...

Page 11: ... mode Press to select press again to deselect 8 Activates the step by step operating cycle every time the button is pressed one step is performed 9 Selects the manual mode 10 Selects the automatic mode 11 It resets the BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING of the carriage Press the 0 AXIS button and release it when the carriage starts moving towards the BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING position 12 Remnant detection disa...

Page 12: ...ll not be displayed under any other operating conditions FEEDING STOP DOOR SAFETY SAFETIES FROM LATHE BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING MISSING MANUAL AUTOMATIC SIGNAL FROM LATHE BAR PUSHER NOT IN POSITION MOVE CARRIAGE TO BACK LIMIT STOP CARRIAGE BACK AUTOMATIC MODE MANUAL MODE AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL MODE SEMI AUTOMATIC MODE CARRY OUT BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING the machine requires a zero setting as a reference ...

Page 13: ...ar pusher position raised or lowered with respect to the bar feeder axis in run time mode 21 Position from 0 it stands for the feeding carriage position with respect to the S1015 zero axis sensor Position from F it stands for the feeding carriage position with respect to the maximum feeding position of the bar feeder 22 Allows to enter a new menu that includes other keys 23 Displays the number of ...

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Page 15: ...UAL MODE 6 2 6 OPERATOR PARAMETERS OPERATION MODE 8 2 7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY 9 2 7 1 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS 10 2 7 2 ACCESSING AND DISPLAYING SUBJECT MENU PARAMETERS 12 2 8 PARAMETER MODIFICATION 14 2 9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS 15 2 10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY 16 2 11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 20 2 12 ERRORS CAUSES SOLUTIONS 57 2 13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION D...

Page 16: ...on the bar feeder by turning the main switch to position I ON 3 Start the bar feeder 4 Select the manual mode 5 Select the BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING of the carriage 6 Bring the bar fore end close to the cutting tool 7 Start the closing of the lathe collet and start working by selecting the automatic mode ...

Page 17: ... Bring the bar pusher carriage to the centre of the bar feeder 4 Provide the enabling signal for operations keeping the zero position sensor active using a security block or screwdriver and check that the axis moves 5 If the axis does not move go straight to point 6 if it moves adjust the value of the machine parameter no 70 under the item Ax Offset Compensat in accordance with the displacement mo...

Page 18: ... cycle to check the bar feeder mechanics to load a single bar so as to check the facing etc Procedure 1 press to start the bar feeder check that the guide channels of the bar feeder are closed If not close the guide channels in manual mode 2 press and then to select the semi automatic mode 3 press the bar feeder performs the first step bar pusher return 4 press the bar feeder performs the second s...

Page 19: ...nditions have been created due to the sudden stop For example if the tool was removing chips move the tool away from the work piece before restarting the lathe Stopping the bar feeder at the end of the machining cycle WARNING CAUTION When stopping the machine normally do not use the emergency buttons 1 Complete the operations of your working schedule 2 Stop the bar feeder 3 Stop the lathe 4 Turn o...

Page 20: ... carrying out the manual 0 Axis periodically is recommended if the bar pusher axis is moved by means of the crank or the lathe headstock is moved with the bar feeder powered off no power supply if the feeding chain is tightened by means of the mechanical chain tightener see Operation and Maintenance Manual Feeding chain Adjustment ...

Page 21: ... the new bar takes into account parameter 3 facing mode and parameter 2 facing position If the operator releases the key the cycle goes on until it is completed INFORMATION Without the open collet signal from lathe the bar feeder carries out the above mentioned procedure but the bar stops before entering the lathe collet waiting for the open collet signal With the open collet signal from lathe the...

Page 22: ...eters concern the working phase while others are used for the bar change phase WARNING CAUTION The parameters are set to a default value preset value the bar feeder performs the automatic cycle according to these values Some parameters may not be appropriate for the lathe type or the type of machining requested The main operation modes are listed hereunder Accessing the parameters Parameter displa...

Page 23: ...2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 9 71 2 7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY ...

Page 24: ... the main screen appears 2 Enter Main Menu mode Select OPERATOR PARAMETERS 3 Select the Select Parameter List button parameter 1 is now displayed AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL Bar feeder waiting OPERATOR Parameters Selection SELECT by SUBJECT SELECT the NUMBER BROWSE the LIST no 1 Bar end adjustment Bar end 100 Bar end 300 K1A Bar end 500 K1B ...

Page 25: ... Enter OPERATOR Parameters mode Press PARAMETER NUMBER 6 OPERATOR Parameters Selection screen will be displayed on the screen press 7 Enter the parameter number for example 1 the parameter value changes from 0 to 1 confirm 8 To return to the short Menu press and proceed as described in Section 2 6 1 no 2 Facing length OPERATOR Parameters Selection SELECT by SUBJECT SELECT the NUMBER BROWSE the LIS...

Page 26: ...s switched on the entry screen is displayed Select Specialized Operators 2 Enter Main Menu mode Select OPERATOR PARAMETERS 3 Select the Select parameter subjects button AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL Bar feeder waiting OPERATOR Parameters Selection SELECT by SUBJECT SELECT the NUMBER BROWSE the LIST OPERATOR Parameters Selection FEEDING ...

Page 27: ...ss the parameters of the desired subject 7 To return to the home page press and proceed as described in Section 2 6 1 OPERATOR Parameters Selection FEEDING FEEDING CHECKS SETTINGS PULSES INTERFACE FACING SwTP FEEDING 0 Thrust to the limit stop Workpiece length Open collet speed Closed collet speed FEEDING Open collet thrust delay Closed collet thrust delay Feeding torque K15 disabling ...

Page 28: ...isplayed Parameter screen example 2 Select the parameter value Selected value 100 mm 3 Enter the value to be assigned for example 300 and confirm the value changes from 100 to 300 no 1 Bar end adjustment Bar end 100 Bar end 0 K1A Bar end 0 K1B 300 no 1 Bar end adjustment Bar end 300 Bar end 0 K1A Bar end 0 K1B ...

Page 29: ...71 4 At this stage the value is no longer blinking If the value is not confirmed when entered the last value will reappear 2 9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS 1 Exit the parameter display mode no 1 Bar end adjustment Bar end 100 Bar end 0 K1A Bar end 0 K1B ...

Page 30: ...ting programme can be directly saved from the PLC into the SD card DOWNLOAD A PROGRAMME FROM USB TO PLC 1 Press the manual key then stop with to enter the Main Menu screen Press the key the display will show PROGRAMMES 2 Press Programmes screen choose programme from 1 to 500 will be displayed 3 Press the key to select the desired programme number PRESS START PROGRAMMES Choose the programme Program...

Page 31: ...ss procedure is displayed for a few seconds 7 When the procedure is complete the display shows Data writing completed PROGRAMMES Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 1 100 0 0 2 Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Are you sure you want to continue Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Data writing in progress Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Dat...

Page 32: ...r the desired programme number Press the Save key 2 Enter the name that will identify the stored programmed 3 Press Yes to continue the download procedure otherwise press No The home screen PROGRAMMES will be displayed PRESS START Programme name PROGRAMMES Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 1 100 0 0 1 SAVE Confirm enter the name of the programme to be saved Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Save Pr...

Page 33: ...play shows Data save completed press 8 When the procedure is complete the display shows Data save completed press EXIT Save Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Data writing in progress Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Data reading completed Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Data save completed Download Programme name Boss 21 N Programme No 0 0 1 Data ...

Page 34: ...l to the bar feeder lathe 2nd Bar end 2 the subparameter allows opening the additional bush 3 The subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder lathe prevents the headstock from completing the return stroke INFORMATION Using the Bar End 1 Adjustment subparameter rules out the possibility for one of the the above mentioned functions of being used simultaneously with the other 1 the subpa...

Page 35: ...hronized with the length of the machined piece Move the lathe headstock K in its completely forwards limit stop position move the bar pusher S forwards without the bar inside the guide channel positioning the front part at about 30 mm from the additional bush L Check the value relative to the position F on the display which by definition is called PdF1 the measured value shall be added to the valu...

Page 36: ...th of the loaded bar plus the length of the bar pusher added to the max headstock stroke is greater than the distance between the 0 axis sensor and the lathe collet If the headstock moves back with closed collet the bar and the bar pusher may exceed the maximum stroke allowed causing a mechanical collision or a bar deformation If a value greater than or equal to 1500 mm value is referred to point ...

Page 37: ...ative value no 3 Facing mode Defines the facing operation 0 TO THE LIMIT STOP once the bar has exceeded the value defined in parameter 2 it proceeds until the bar limit stop or until the tool 1 IN POSITION the bar is positioned in the point defined in parameter 2 2 no 2 Facing length DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 10 3 no 3 Facing mode in position DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE K...

Page 38: ...cing to limit stop Cmax 3 no 3 Facing mode t o t h e l i m i t s t o p O v e r r u n a d m i t t e d a f t e r I CHK with 0 mm is excluded F a c i n g t o t h e l i m i t s t o p V m a x F a c i n g t o t h e l i m i t s t o p C m a x DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 A to the limit stop to the limit stop in position B 0 0 C 10 D 35 ...

Page 39: ... A Parameter 4 B Parameter 6 0 Not enabled for first piece the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for the first piece 1 Enabled for first piece the parameter is active for every feeding operation the facing phase excepted INFORMATION The short piece control cannot be performed in sliding headstock lathes bar feeding is carried out by the headstock INFORMATION Setting the subpara...

Page 40: ...nabled for first piece the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for the first piece 1 Enabled for first piece the parameter is active for every feeding operation the facing phase excepted INFORMATION In the sliding headstock lathe you can use this parameter to check for any tool breakages enter a value of a few millimetres maximum 5 mm INFORMATION Setting the subparameter to 1 Ena...

Page 41: ...active only if parameter 35 is set to 1 or 2 When parameter 35 is set to 0 this parameter is not active A parameter 6 B about 4 mm no 7 Open collet speed Defines the FEEDING speed value 6 no 6 Piece length DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 7 no 7 Open collet speed Vmax DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 30 ...

Page 42: ...pening is slow double cone collet no 10 Closed collet thrust delay At the closed collet signal from the lathe the bar pusher continues pushing in accordance to the set time Application example it should be used when the mechanical movement of the collet closing is slow double cone collet 9 no 9 Open collet thrust delay sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 10 no 10 Closed collet thr...

Page 43: ...2 F collet entry slowdown start referred to C G see subparameter N of Parameter 14 C Collet outer alignment Parameter 64 I Facing Parameter 64 Parameter 2 in the example in the picture the hypothetical value entered in Parameter 2 100 mm The value can be either positive or negative for further information see Parameter 2 11 no 11 Collet entry slowdown mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid...

Page 44: ...llet entry speed Defines the value by which the speed is reduced in the slowdown section see parameter 11 A 12 no 12 Collet entry speed F r o m C o l l e t e n t r y s l o w d o w n mm sec To pulse window end DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 6 ...

Page 45: ... the thrust value that the bar receives during its feeding in the lathe collet It is active in the slowdown section see parameter 11 13 no 13 Collet entry torque F r o m C o l l e t e n t r y s l o w d o w n C max To pulse window end DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 40 ...

Page 46: ...wn G simultaneously ends INFORMATION To prevent unnecessary machine stops it is recommended to enter a high value in the subparameter M INFORMATION If the bar meets an obstacle before entering the pulse window section the bar feeder goes into ALARM 15 Stationary position before pulses C Collet outer alignment Parameter 64 I Facing Parameter 64 Parameter 2 in the example in the picture the hypothet...

Page 47: ... the bar moves into the slowdown section see parameter 11 the bar meets the obstacle the collet and the lathe receives the pulses to start turning the spindle for the set time the spindle slows down and then stops for the time defined in parameter 19 the bar receives the feeding pulse if the bar is fed into the collet the cycle goes on if the bar does not enter into the collet the previous phases ...

Page 48: ...ycle start delay When the bar is in the facing position see parameter 2 the cycle start signal of the lathe can be delayed for a preset value K15 Application example it is necessary to have the cycle start signal delay when the spindle needs a certain time to reach the operating rotation speed 19 no 19 Spindle pulses off time DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 5 20 no 20 Cycle start ...

Page 49: ...acing 0 Removal Subparameter Off Description of the phase order at the bar end the bar pusher and the remnant are in the spindle of the lathe the bar pusher and the remnant reach the completely backwards position the remnant is removed from the collet and falls into the remnant recovery box 21 no 21 Remnant handling DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1 0 1 2 3 ...

Page 50: ...dvance 3 Bar change advance no facing Foreword To enable one of the two modes the lathe should have a subprogramming function The subprogram should control the bar stop removal at the bar end signal The bar stop removal allows the ejection of the remnant from side A of the lathe ...

Page 51: ... B The lathe receives the BAR END signal from the bar feeder finishes the machining of the last piece then goes in the subprogram bar stop removal and sends the FEEDING and the BAR CHANGE signals C The bar pusher moves up to point F maximum feeding point of the bar pusher and the bar feeder carries out the bar change D Through the feeding the new bar ejects the remnant and moves into the facing po...

Page 52: ...e the BAR CHANGE ADVANCE lathe signal applicable only to lathes which have this function Description of the phase order the lathe receives the BAR END signal with the above mentioned conditions the bar feeder carries out the return of the bar pusher and loads a new bar in the guide channels whilst awaiting the FEEDING and BAR CHANGE signals as soon as the last piece has been machined the lathe ent...

Page 53: ...arried out first feeding and bar loading in the bar feeder collet and then awaits the FEEDING and BAR CHANGE signals as soon as the last piece has been machined the lathe enters the subprogram bar stop removal and sends both the BAR FEEDING and BAR CHANGE signals the new bar begins the facing phase until it reaches the position indicated in parameter 2 the bar feeder sends the cycle start signal t...

Page 54: ...l FEEDING signal from lathe for a longer time than the set one it goes in ALARM no 23 Piece timeout This is the maximum duration of the piece machining If for any reason the period for machining of a piece exceeds the set time the bar feeder will activate the ALARM 22 no 22 Open collet timeout DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 23 no 23 Piece timeout DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE ...

Page 55: ...es before the lathe stop VALUE 0 The parameter function is disabled VALUE 0 When the set value of pieces machined is reached the bar feeder calls the stop of the lathe whilst FEEDING VALUE 0 Application example 1 Set value at 1000 the display shows 25 no 25 Feeding handling 1 Feeding stop with bar end DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1 0 1 26 no 26 Pieces before lathe stop 0 0 DEFAUL...

Page 56: ...D 80 SIV 2 Pag 42 71 2 Start machining After finishing 1 000 pieces the bar feeder will command the lathe stop the display shows To restart machining the value in brackets should be reset no 26 Pieces before lathe stop 1000 1000 ...

Page 57: ...ALUE 0 When the minutes set have passed the bar feeder signals the lathe to stop FEEDING no 28 Closed collet speed Defines the CLOSED collet speed value 27 no 27 Minutes before lathe stop 0 0 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 0 28 no 28 Closed collet speed 20 Vmax DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 20 ...

Page 58: ...g with the bar pusher ejection see parameter 21 point b necessary when the lathe collet is replaced with one of different dimension When the adjustments of point F are performed parameter 1 is modified as shown in the figure A No adjustment B With adjustment for example 10 C With adjustment for example 10 29 no 29 Max feeding pos adjustment mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 0 ...

Page 59: ...2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 45 71 no 30 Language 1I Defines the language of the information that appear on the display 1 ITALIAN 2 ENGLISH 3 DEUTSCH 30 no 30 Language ...

Page 60: ...DING signal no 33 K2 inversion 0 K2 is on 1 at limit stop During the feeding signal the K2 relay remains off during the bar feeding it is activated when the bar arrives at the bar limit stop encoder stop 1 K2 is on 0 at limit stop The K2 relay is active during the bar feeding and off when the bar reaches the bar limit stop encoder stop 32 no 32 K1 immediate exit OFF DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALU...

Page 61: ...THRUST TO THE LIMIT STOP Carries out the piece feeding according to the value set in parameter 6 stops at few millimetres from the bar limit stop and then carries out another feeding up to the bar limit stop until the FEEDING signal is active Subparameters B Position C Speed D Acceleration E Deceleration 34 no 34 Feeding torque Cmax DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 40 35 no 35 Fixed ...

Page 62: ...BLED Disables the warning at every use of parameter 35 position 1 no 37 K15 duration Defines the CYCLE START signal duration no 38 K13 duration Defines the CYCLE STOP signal duration 36 no 36 K15 Disabling ON 37 no 37 K15 Duration sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 2 38 no 38 K13 Duration sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 ...

Page 63: ...en the bar change is carried out the signal stops the spindle 0 RELAY DISABLED WITH BAR CHANGE The relay is disabled with the bar change 1 RELAY ALWAYS ENABLED The relay is always enabled 39 no 39 Spindle stop OFF DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 OFF OFF ON ...

Page 64: ...th the bar Parameter A Position The subparameters define the speed and acceleration deceleration during the closed collet bar pusher movement B Speed C Acceleration D Deceleration For fixed headstock or sliding rest lathes set a displacement of some millimetres 40 no 40 Collet closing bar pusher return 5 0 0 0 4 1 1 3 1 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 5 9 5 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 A 41 13...

Page 65: ...2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN 2 Pag 51 71 For sliding headstock lathes set the value of the headstock stroke plus some millimetres A Headstock stroke 2 3 mm B Headstock stroke ...

Page 66: ...ge stops as soon as it reaches the value set in the parameter no 42 Bar pusher return pause BAR PUSHER RETURN signal timing 41 no 41 First feeding value B mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1405 N 1075 L 1405 LL 1735 42 no 42 Bar pusher return pause sec DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 0 2 ...

Page 67: ...ge Allows changing the FIRST FEEDING SPEED Parameter A Speed type 0 Slow 1 Fast Subparameters B Speed 1 C Speed 2 D Acceleration E Deceleration 43 no 43 First feeding speed change Fast 2000 2000 0 1 0 0 DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 A 1 B 20000 C 60000 D 100 E 15 ...

Page 68: ...d mm minute B Space covered mm V1 Speed set in slow section V2 Speed set in fast section F V1 ramp acceleration G V2 ramp acceleration H Deceleration L Facing flag Parameter Speed change in first feeding 0 Slow no 43 First feeding speed change Fast 2000 2000 0 1 0 0 no 43 First feeding speed change Slow 0 ...

Page 69: ...s applicable with parameter 24 in modes 0 and 5 It is not applicable with modes 1 2 3 and 4 Bar pusher stop with closed collet 0 the bar pusher stop is off 1 the bar pusher stop is on Axis stop engagement delay This subparameter allows setting a delay time for the axis stop engagement at every CLOSED COLLET This period of time allows you to release the bar feeder transmission devices so as to avoi...

Page 70: ...ing headstock with no synchronization device the Closed collet torque adjusts the thrust value with which the bar pusher moves the bar during the CLOSED COLLET signal no 44 Axis operation Bar pusher stop OFF with closed collet Axis stop engagement 1 sec delay Torque 20 Cmax with closed collet ...

Page 71: ...rrors are detected the bar feeder stops to restore the automatic cycle carry out the following procedure restore the manual cycle eliminate the cause of the error restore the automatic cycle INFORMATION All messages with Error must be reset by pressing When a warning is displayed the bar feeder does not stop and it is not necessary to reset the machine The warnings appear when attempting to perfor...

Page 72: ... Some alarms have the same name as the sensor that triggered them for example 10 Bar feeder emergency S610 1 The position of the sensor or button can be located by means of the description shown on the display or by means of the label inside the magazine guard ...

Page 73: ...mbol allows you to view the type of alarm causing the machine to stop By pressing the button The Guidance text explaining how to fix the error is displayed Press Start 10 Bar feeder emergency 10 Bar feeder emergency Guidance text Clear the emergency signals and press the reset button ...

Page 74: ...EN 2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV 2 Pag 60 71 Press the layout showing the position of the bar feeder sensors is displayed Press to return to the main screen Press Start ...

Page 75: ... INFORMATION the alarms referring to a specific working phase are identified within the operating cycle see section 3 4 INFORMATION All Alarms must be reset by pressing The alarm messages their probable causes and related solutions are listed below ...

Page 76: ...ion and if the pulse sequence is correct The feeding speed and or torque are not suitable Check the speed see parameter 12 and or the torque see parameter 13 4 ERROR GATE OPEN S1008 Off Error AT THE FIRST FEEDING STROKE START THE SHORT FEED GATE IS OPEN CAUSE SOLUTION 4 Warning Gate open The short feed gate is jammed and cannot be closed Make sure that there are no foreign bodies chips remnants fr...

Page 77: ...ctly Check the correct opening of the collet at least 0 5 mm Encoder operation failure Check the value relative to the position of the bar pusher carriage on the display and check the effective variation of the value with regards to the real displacement of the carriage The thrust received by the bar is too low Check the values of parameters 7 8 and 34 A Short piece safety tolerance subparameter P...

Page 78: ...e variation of the value with regards to the real displacement of the carriage Possible breakage of the cutting tool Check the condition of the cutting tool B Long piece safety tolerance subparameter Par 5 or Long feeding subparameter Par 6 C Headstock stroke Parameter C Par 5 Piece feeding Parameter C Par 6 The bar slides out of the collet during the headstock stroke Check the bar pusher collet s...

Page 79: ...en collet timeout In the AUTOMATIC mode the lathe collet remained open for a longer period than the one set in parameter 22 Check the value of parameter 22 with regards to the real FEEDING time 10 BAR FEEDER EMERGENCY Warning THE GENERAL CONTROLS OF THE BAR FEEDER ARE NOT INSERTED CAUSE SOLUTION 10 Warning Bar feeder emergency An emergency button has been pressed Check the state of the emergency b...

Page 80: ... The values for Facing and overrun admitted after I set by the operator are wrong 13 PIECE TIMEOUT Warning THE WORKING CYCLE FOR MACHINING A PIECE HAS TAKEN LONGER THAN THE TIME SET IN PARAMETER 23 CAUSE SOLUTION 13 Warning Piece timeout The working cycle for machining a piece has taken longer than the time set in parameter 23 Check the setting in parameter 23 with regards to the working cycle The...

Page 81: ... pusher moves but it stops before knocking down the facing flag CAUSE SOLUTION 15 Warning Stationary position before pulses A Parameter 11 B Area with error 27 There is an obstacle inside the spindle Make sure that there are no obstacles or diameter differences which could interfere with the bar feeding The pulse window defined in parameter 14 has not been set correctly Check the value set in para...

Page 82: ...lacement device The sensor is faulty Replace the sensor Incorrect reading of the sensor Check the distance between the sensor and the relevant cam 17 MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKERS E11 7 A MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKER HAS TRIPPED CAUSE SOLUTION 17 Warning Motor thermal circuit breakers The oil pump overheating has occurred Make sure that the involved motor can run freely and check the correct the...

Page 83: ...OLUTION 19 Warning No bar The phase detector is not working properly Make sure that the phase detector on the mechanical cam works properly There is a mechanical obstacle 22 MACHINE OK THIS IS A MESSAGE AND DOES NOT NEED A RESET IT IS USED ONLY TO SEND AN SMS OR AN EMAIL INFORMING ON THE AUTOMATIC RESET AFTER AN ALARM CAUSE SOLUTION 22 Warning Machine OK This message appears for a few seconds when...

Page 84: ...ure Check the microswitch placed on the cam box of the thread safety The bar did not move to the last COLLET OPENING Make sure that the lathe collet opens correctly and check the bar feeder thrust parameter 34 25 CARRY OUT THE 0 AXIS AFTER A POWER OFF ON THE ENCODER VALUE PRESET OPERATION WAS NOT CARRIED OUT CORRECTLY IN THE PRESET TIME CAUSE SOLUTION 25 Warning 25 Carry out the 0 axis after a pow...

Page 85: ...rams using the following procedure 1 Enter the main screen To display the identification data of the Push button panel software of the PLC NC Software 2 Select mode to 3 Display the screen where it is displayed identification data of the push button panel software barra SwOP xxxxx barra PLC NC software identification data barra SwCNC xxxxx barra Project name KID T e s t Created 01 01 2015 I O Auth...

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Page 87: ...RS DISPLAY 2 3 2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS 2 3 3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 5 3 4 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES DESCRIPTION 6 3 5 AXIS FUNCTION PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 16 3 6 INTERFACE PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 20 3 7 GENERAL PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION 21 ...

Page 88: ...de To access this mode it is necessary to follow the procedure given in Section 4 2 The pages of this section are only supplied to the technician authorized by the manufacturer WARNING CAUTION The parameters are set to a default value preset value the bar feeder performs the automatic cycle according to these values The main display modes are the following Access the protected parameters Display t...

Page 89: ...displayed 3 Enter Password number then INFORMATION Should you need to check and modify parameters between 46 and 100 please contact Iemca Service Department 4 Select Iemca parameters 7 Select BROWSE THE LIST Connection Password OK Cancel SELECT the NUMBER BROWSE the LIST ...

Page 90: ...e protected parameters press or the display shows for example 10 Or to display the desired parameter start from step 6 and select SELECT the NUMBER 11 OPERATOR Parameters Selection screen will be displayed on the screen press 46 no 46 47 no 47 SELECT the NUMBER BROWSE the LIST IEMCA Parameters Selection Enter Parameter No 0 100 and carry on 0 ...

Page 91: ...ears then press 13 The display will show parameter 47 3 3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION Protected parameters are divided into the following sections Parameters for the reference values 3 4 Parameters for the axis functions 3 5 Interface parameters 3 6 General parameters 3 7 47 IEMCA Parameters Selection Enter Parameter No 0 100 and carry on 47 47 no 47 ...

Page 92: ...ly backwards position 3 Carriage in completely forwards position 4 Short feed gate flag 5 Bar pusher in its completely forwards position 6 Spindle 7 Headstock in its completely backwards position 8 Headstock in its completely forwards position 9 Rest in its completely backwards position 10 Rest in its completely forwards position X Fixed headstock lathe Y Sliding headstock lathe Z Sliding rest lat...

Page 93: ...e between the front edges of the first feeding carriage in After removal movement and first feeding limit switch position point B no 61 Feeding value x This is the stroke value for the bar loading into the bar pusher collet 60 no 60 First feeding value B mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1720 61 no 61 Feeding value x mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 ...

Page 94: ...ag collet distance B1C This parameter value should be entered This is the value of point C facing point that is the distance from the short feed gate 12 of the bar feeder and the front edge of the lathe collet 62 no 62 Bush value BO mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 2270 32 N 2390 L 2060 LL 1730 37 N 2930 L 2600 LL 2270 44 N 3590 L 3260 LL 2930 63 no 63 Flag collet distance B1C mm ...

Page 95: ...oint C after the bar first feeding no 65 Collet facing value C1 The value of this parameter is predefined by the program The number is given by the value of point C in addition to the value of parameter 2 64 no 64 Collet value C mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 preset value 65 no 65 Collet facing value CI mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 preset value ...

Page 96: ...int this value corresponds to the bar pusher stroke from its completely backwards position to point F This value changes according to the different applications and should be entered by the Installation Technician see default value on the side 66 no 66 Maximum feeding value F mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1400 ...

Page 97: ...s no 68 Guide channel opening max value The value of this parameter is predefined by the program Position of the feeding carriage when the guide channels open 67 no 67 Lubrication stop value L mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 2380 32 N 2710 L 2380 LL 2050 37 N 3250 L 2920 LL 2590 44 N 3910 L 3580 LL 3250 68 no 68 Guide channel opening max value mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE ...

Page 98: ... KID 80 SIV 3 Pag 12 23 no 69 Maximum bar length This parameter value should be entered Set the max length of bars that are to be loaded 69 no 69 Maximum bar length mm DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 1220 max 1615 ...

Page 99: ...r feeder sends the last piece machining end signal to the lathe the lathe enters the bar change subprogram and sends the open collet and bar change signals EJECTION ADVANCES Phase 1 Phase 2 Phase 3 Movement to position 0 at low speed and Chk zero position sensor if ok carry on Phase 4 Phase 5 Phase 6 ...

Page 100: ...es PHASE 3 consisting in a slow movement to 0 position in order to check that the 0 position coincides with the 0 Axis sensor S1235 activation Facing jog phase where the machine can carry out the pulses Facing phase END Alarm 11 Wrong facing position The bar feeder sends the cycle i l Phase 7 Phase 8 Phase 6 Bar First Feeding Return ...

Page 101: ...3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV EN 3 Pag 15 23 ...

Page 102: ... can reach during feeding Therefore these values have to be considered in all the parameters where a speed value may be set no 71 Speed reduction in manual mode Defines the speed value by which the bar pusher moves in manual mode This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum speed Parameters A Speed reduction in manual mode Subparameters B Forwards slowly C Forwards fast D Backwards slowl...

Page 103: ...3 Limitation of automatic speed Defines the speed value by which the bar pusher moves in automatic mode This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum speed Parameters A Limitation of automatic speed Subparameters B Collet closed C Collet open 72 no 72 Speed reduction during bar change CURRENT VALUE Vmax From Collet entry slowdown to pulse window end Vmax Pulse backwards Vmax Facing to the...

Page 104: ...D E subparameters This value is expressed as a percentage of the maximum torque Parameter A Torque reduction during bar change Subparameters B From collet entry slowdown to pulse window end C Pulse backwards D Facing to limit stop E Facing jog 77 no 77 Torque reduction in manual mode CURRENT VALUE Vmax Forwards slowly Vmax Forwards fast Vmax Backwards slowly Vmax Backwards fast Vmax DEFAULT VALUE ...

Page 105: ...rols for the bar pusher movements The setting of this parameter should be done with regards to the position of the keyboard i e if it is on one side or on the opposite side 0 Defines the movements forwards and backwards in both directions 1 Defines the movements forwards and backwards of the opposite directions with regards to 0 79 no 79 Torque reduction in automatic mode CURRENT VALUE Vmax Closed...

Page 106: ...E8 7Door safety M NO E9 0Thread safety N NO E9 1Start from lathe O NO E9 2Safety from lathe P NO E9 3Startup Q NO E9 7Working mode 85 no 85 Interface signal A u x i l i a r y e n a b l i n g 1 A u x i l i a r y e n a b l i n g 2 B a r c h a n g e F e e d i n g T h r e a d s a f e t y M a n u a l f e e d i n g S t a r t f r o m l a t h e M a n u a l r e t u r n S a f e t y f r o m l a t h e M a n A...

Page 107: ...to ALARM when performing movements for example guide channel opening The bar feeder WORKING phase is lost and must be re established the BAR FEEDER WAITING message will be displayed 1 Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe in automatic mode At the first bar feeding signal the bar feeder goes into ALARM mode if it is in manual mode WARNING CAUTION After the MANUAL AUTOMATIC lathe signal is given this ...

Page 108: ...g 22 23 no 98 Indicators The parameter describes Speed and Torque instant values during the bar feeder working phase It is not possible to interact with or to modify the values displayed which are only given as an indication 98 no 98 Indicators ...

Page 109: ... case of bar feeder alarm can be set directly from the touch screen A Address B Subject 99 n 99 sms D a t e Hour A d d r e s s S u b j e c t T e x t DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 A reference domain name it B bar feeder component C message 100 n 100 E mail Date Hour A d d r e s s S u b j e c t DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE Kid 80 Kid 80 A reference at domain name it B ALARM ...

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Page 111: ...SSISTANCE REQUEST 2 A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA 3 B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR 4 D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES 8 E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS 9 F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE 11 G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST 12 ...

Page 112: ... assistance request send the list of parameters with the assigned values attachments B C D E F G to IEMCA service department In addition it is necessary to transmit the identification data of the HARDWARE installed in the bar feeder attachment A EXAMPLE OF FILLING IN ...

Page 113: ...ION DATA CPU CARD Model Serial number ENABLING CARD motor drive Model Serial number Above data can be found in the CPU and motor enabling cards which are located in electric board PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA PUSH BUTTON PANEL FIRMWARE Number PUSH BUTTON PANEL SOFTWARE Number PLC CN SOFTWARE Number PLC CN FIRMWARE Number To trace these data see section 2 12 ...

Page 114: ...s 2 Facing length 0 mm inches 3 Facing mode 0 at limit stop 1 in position 1 Overrun admitted after I 0 mm inches Facing to the limit stop 10 Vmax Facing to the limit stop 35 Cmax 4 Short feeding safety 0 mm inches 5 Long feeding safety 0 mm inches 6 Piece length 0 mm inches 7 Open collet speed 30 Vmax 9 Open collet thrust delay 0 Sec 10 Closed collet thrust delay 0 Sec 11 Collet entry slowdown 200...

Page 115: ...ulses on time 0 5 0 5 Sec 19 Spindle pulses off time 0 5 0 5 Sec 20 Cycle start delay 0 0 Sec 21 Remnant handling 0 safety 1 ejection 2 bar change advance no first feeding 3 bar change advance no facing 0 0 22 Open collet timeout 0 0 Sec 23 Piece timeout 0 0 Sec 25 Bar feeding handling 0 end of feeding with bar change 1 end of feeding with K1 1 1 26 Pieces before lathe stop 0 0 0 27 Minutes before...

Page 116: ...activated 1 with open collet K1 activated 0 33 K2 Inversion 0 K2 is on 1 at limit stop 1 K2 is on 0 at limit stop 0 34 Feeding torque 40 Cmax 35 Fixed piece feeding 0 at the limit stop 1 at fixed values 2 fixed values thr at limit stop 0 Position Speed 76200 Acceleration 100 Deceleration 100 36 K15 disabling 0 K15 included 1 K15 excluded 1 37 K15 duration 2 sec 38 K13 duration 2 sec 39 Spindle sto...

Page 117: ...n Default value Allocated value Unit of measuremen t KID IV 43 Speed change in first feeding 0 slow 1 fast 1 Speed 1 9144 Mm m Speed 2 48000 Acceleration 100 Deceleration 10 44 Axis operation Bar pusher stop with closed collet 0 the bar pusher stop is off 1 the bar pusher stop is on 0 Axis stop engagement delay 1 sec Closed collet torque 10 Cmax ...

Page 118: ...lue Allocated value Unit of measurement KID IV 60 First feeding value B 1720 mm inches 61 Feeding value x mm inches 62 Bush value BO 2270 mm inches 63 Flag collet distance B1C 1400 mm inches 64 Collet value C mm inches 65 Collet facing value CI mm inches 66 Maximum feeding value F 3740 mm inches 67 Lubrication stop value L 2590 mm inches 68 Guide channel opening max value mm inches 69 Maximum bar ...

Page 119: ...during bar change From collet entry slowdown to pulse window end 6 0 Vmax Pulse backwards 20 0 Vmax Facing to the limit stop 10 0 Vmax Facing jog 28 0 Vmax 73 Speed reduction in automatic mode Clamp closed 20 Vmax Open collet 30 Vmax 77 Torque reduction in manual mode Cmax Forwards slowly 40 Cmax Forwards fast 70 Cmax Backwards slowly 70 Cmax Backwards fast 70 Cmax 78 Torque reduction during bar c...

Page 120: ...EN 5 ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV 5 Pag 10 12 PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS Par No Parameter description Default value Allocated value Unit of measureme nt KID IV 84 Keyboard on the opposite side 0 ...

Page 121: ...ated value Unit of measureme nt KID IV 85 Interface signals Bar change 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man feeding 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man return 0 NO 1 NC 0 Man aut from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding cycle 0 NO 1 NC 0 Feeding stop 0 NO 1 NC 0 0 Door safety devices 0 NO 1 NC 1 Threading safety device 0 NO 1 NC 0 Start from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 0 Safety devices from lathe 0 NO 1 NC 1 Sturtup 0 NO 1 NC 0 Working mod...

Page 122: ...o Parameter description Default value Allocated value Unit of measure ment KID IV 89 Fair Demo 0 turned off 1 turned on 0 90 Wrong bar feeder phase 0 K37 active with closed guide channels in manual mode 1 Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe in automatic mode 0 98 Indicators only on touch 99 SMS service only on touch 100 E MAIL service only on touch ...

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