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6 Planning and Implementation for the Switch xl PoE

Planning Your PoE Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-1

ProCurve Switch PoE xl Module Configurations with
a 600 RPS/EPS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-2

ProCurve Switch PoE xl Module Configurations with
a 610 EPS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-4

7 Planning and Implementation for the

2910al PoE+ Switches

Planning Your PoE Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-1

ProCurve 2910al-24G-PoE+ Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-2

ProCurve 2910al-48G-PoE+ Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7-4

8 Planning and Implementation for the 3500 Switches

Planning Your PoE Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8-1

HP ProCurve 3500-24-PoE Switch Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8-2

HP ProCurve 3500-48-PoE Switch Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8-4

9 Planning and Implementation for the 3500yl Switches

Planning Your PoE or PoE+ Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9-1

HP ProCurve 3500yl-24G-PWR Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9-2

HP ProCurve 3500yl-48G-PWR Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9-4

HP ProCurve 3500yl-24G-PoE+ Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9-7

HP ProCurve 3500yl-48G-PoE+ Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9-9

10 Planning and Implementation for the

5400zl/8200zl Switches

Planning Your PoE Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10-2

Power Configuration for HP ProCurve 5406zl/8206zl
PoE Switch . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10-2

Power Configuration for HP ProCurve 5406zl/8206zl
PoE/PoE+ Switches . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10-4

Power Configuration for HP ProCurve 5412zl/8212zl
PoE Switches . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10-5

Summary of Contents for ProCurve 600

Page 1: ...Power over Ethernet HP ProCurve Power over Ethernet PoE PoE Planning and Implementation Guide ...

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Page 4: ...icable to your Hewlett Packard products and replacement parts can be obtained from your HP Sales and Service Office or authorized dealer HP ProCurve Switch 2910al 24G PoE J9146A HP ProCurve Switch2910al 48G PoE J9148A HP ProCurve Switch 5406zl J8697A HP ProCurve Switch 5406zl 48G J8699A HP ProCurve Switch 5412zl J8698A HP ProCurve Switch 5412zl 96G J8700A HP ProCurve Switch 3500 24 PoE J9471A HP P...

Page 5: ...ches 1 14 HP ProCurve 3500yl PWR Switches 1 14 Power Redundancy for the 3500yl PWR Switches 1 15 HP ProCurve 3500yl PoE Switches 1 15 Power Redundancy for the 3500yl PoE Switches 1 16 HP ProCurve 5400zl 8200zl Switches 1 17 Power Redundancy for the5400zl 8200zl Switches 1 19 PoE PoE Power Supplies 1 20 Why Mixing Power Supplies is NOT Supported 1 20 PoE Power Supplies 1 21 PoE PoE Power Supply 1 2...

Page 6: ...Power Characteristics 2 7 Line Loss 2 7 PD Power Classification 2 7 PD Power Requirements 2 8 Provisioning Power for PoE 2 9 HP ProCurve 2520 PoE Switches 2 10 Maximum PoE Power 2 10 PoE Power Requirements 2 10 HP ProCurve 2600 PWR Switches 2 11 Maximum PoE Power 2 11 PoE Power Requirements 2 12 HP ProCurve 2610 PWR Switches 2 13 Maximum PoE Power 2 13 PoE Power Requirements 2 14 HP ProCurve 2910a...

Page 7: ...anning and Implementation for the 2520 and 2520G Switches Planning the PoE Configuration 3 1 HP ProCurve 2520 8 PoE and 2520G 8 PoE Configurations 3 2 HP ProCurve 2520 24 PoE and 2520G 24 PoE Configurations 3 3 4 Planning and Implementation for the 2600 PWR Switches Planning the PoE Configuration 4 1 ProCurve 2600 8 PWR Configurations 4 2 ProCurve 2626 PWR Configurations 4 3 ProCurve 2650 PWR Conf...

Page 8: ...tion 8 1 HP ProCurve 3500 24 PoE Switch Configuration 8 2 HP ProCurve 3500 48 PoE Switch Configuration 8 4 9 Planning and Implementation for the 3500yl Switches Planning Your PoE or PoE Configuration 9 1 HP ProCurve 3500yl 24G PWR Configuration 9 2 HP ProCurve 3500yl 48G PWR Configuration 9 4 HP ProCurve 3500yl 24G PoE Configuration 9 7 HP ProCurve 3500yl 48G PoE Configuration 9 9 10 Planning and ...

Page 9: ...upply 10 16 Example Configuration for HP ProCurve 8206zl with Two PoE PoE Power Supplies 10 17 HP ProCurve 8206zl Configurations using the Power Supply Shelf 10 17 HP ProCurve 5412zl 8212zl Configurations 10 18 Standard J8712A Configurations 10 18 Standard J8713A Configurations 10 22 Mixed J8712A and J8713A Configurations 10 25 Using the HP ProCurve 1500W PoE zl Power Supply J9306A 10 28 ProCurve ...

Page 10: ...Considerations for the 2910al PoE Switches A 2 Specific Considerations for the 3500 PoE Switches A 3 Specific Considerations for the 3500yl PWR Switches A 4 Specific Considerations for the 3500yl PoE Switches A 5 Specific Considerations for the 5400zl 8200zl Switches A 6 Index ...

Page 11: ... for power distribution consider how many different AC power plugs exist worldwide Almost all appliances require both data connectivity and a power supply Just as telephones are powered from the telephone exchange through the same twistedpairthat carries the voice we cannow do the same thing withEthernet devices The technology is bound to make a big impact in the world of embedded computing In the...

Page 12: ...wer more efficiently and thereby provide power to more devices for a given power supply capacity The new standard is going to be a superset of the 802 3af because it provides all the same functionality and more The table below shows the capabilities of 802 3af versus 802 3at In order for 802 3at to provide higher power Class D Cat5e or better cables are required 802 3at also increases the minimum ...

Page 13: ...while maintaining full control over every node through the internet Figure 1 1 shows a typical system implemented to power telephones and wireless access points The PoE Ethernet switches are installed to supply power over the twisted pair LAN cables to run phones or other appliances as required Figure 1 1 Example of a Typical Implementation 5406zl Switch 3500yl 48G PWR 3500yl 24G PWR Wireless Acce...

Page 14: ...airs Only two of these pairs are used for 10Base T and 100Base TX data all four are used for 1000Base T data The specification allows two options for using these cables for power The spare pairs are used The pair on pins 4 and 5 are connected together and form the positive supply and the pair on pins 7 and 8 are connected and form the negative supply The data pairs are used Since Ethernet pairs ar...

Page 15: ...cal classification which is even more precise The PD must continue to draw a minimum current If it does not for example when the device is unplugged then the PSE removes the power and the discovery process begins again PoE Capabilities of the Products These switches are designed to be used primarily in wiring closets directly connected to computers printers and servers to provide dedicated bandwid...

Page 16: ...d PoE auto sensing 10 100Base TX RJ 45 ports and two 10 100 1000Base TX uplink ports with two dual personality Gigabit Uplink ports Theseswitchesalsosupportsomepre standardPoEdevices Foralistofthese devices see the FAQs for your switch model This feature must be enabled it is not a default feature The dual personality ports have either auto sensing 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 or mini GBIC connectivity...

Page 17: ...A has 24 Integrated PoE auto sensing 10 100 1000Base TX RJ 45 ports including four dual personality Gigabit Uplink ports Theseswitchesalsosupportsomepre standardPoEdevices Foralistofthese devices see the FAQs for your switch model This feature must be enabled it is not a default feature The dual personality ports have either auto sensing 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 or mini GBIC connectivity The dual p...

Page 18: ...lso supports some pre standard PoE devices For a list of these devices see the FAQs for your switch model This feature must be enabled it is not a default feature The dual personality ports have either auto sensing 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 or mini GBIC connectivity The dual personality ports do not support PoE PoE Power Fault Dual Personality Port 10 100 1000 T T or Mini GBIC M Port 9T is IEEE Auto...

Page 19: ... 45 ports with four Gigabit Uplink ports The 2610 24 PWR J9087A has 24 Integrated PoE auto sensing 10 100Base TX RJ 45 ports with four Gigabit Uplink ports The 2610 24 12PWR J9086A has 12 Integrated PoE auto sensing 10 100Base TX RJ 45 ports with four Gigabit Uplink ports For more information refer to the Management and Configuration Guide on the ProCurve Web site To display the list of downloadab...

Page 20: ... be connected to a 600 RPS EPS and receive full redundant power from the RPS part of the unit for switch operation if the internal power supply in the switch fails If multiple switches are connected to the RPS ports and several switches lose power at the same time the switch attached to the lowest RPS port number receives power The 600 RPS EPS unit can provide all the power necessary to keep one s...

Page 21: ...ity ports have either auto sensing 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 or mini GBIC connectivity The mini GBIC ports do not support PoE If any of themini GBIC portsareusedthecorresponding RJ 45portwillnotbesupplied with PoE PoE power Power Fault Locator Console LED Mode Clear Reset PoE Integrated 10 100 1000Base T Ports 1 48T Ports are Auto MDIX Test Tmp Status Dual Personality Ports 10 100 1000 T T or SFP S ...

Page 22: ...ndant 12 V system power RPS and to provide for additional PoE provisioning For RPS power the 2910al Switches can be connected to either an HP ProCurve 620 RPS EPS or HP ProCurve 630 RPS EPS For additional PoE EPS power only the 630 can be used The 620 does not provide 54 V for PoE only 50 V for PoE and the 2910al Switches do not support connections to the 620 for EPS The 2910al switch provides up ...

Page 23: ...ices Foralistofthese devices see the FAQs for your switch model This feature is the default and you must disable it if you do not want to use it For example ProCurve config no power pre std detect For more information refer to the Management and Configuration Guide which is on the ProCurve Web site To display the list of downloadable manuals click on the following link www hp com go procurve manua...

Page 24: ...ts and both switches lose power at the same time they both receive redundant power The 620 RPS EPS unit can provide all the power necessary to keep two switches running If maximum PoE power is to be used on all 48 ports you must connect an HP ProCurve 620 RPS EPS since the internal power supply only has enough power to supply 24 ports with maximum wattage In this case there is no redundancy HP Pro...

Page 25: ...ower supply fails it will shut down the entire switch Therefore it is important to provide aredundantpowersupply forboth the12Vand50Vcircuits Itisrecommended that both EPS and RPS be connected to provide full redundancy The 3500yl PWR Switches can be connected to a 620 RPS EPS and receive full redundant power from the RPS part of the unit for switch operation if the internal power supply in the sw...

Page 26: ...willnotbe supplied with PoE power Power Redundancy for the 3500yl PoE Switches The internal power supply in these switches provides both the 12V RPS and 54V EPS circuits If the 54V portion of the power supply fails it will only shut down the PoE connections However if the 12V portion of the power supply fails it will shut down the entire switch Therefore it is important to provide aredundantpowers...

Page 27: ... HP ProCurve Switch 5406zl is a chassis that can hold up to six 24 port modules to provide up to 144 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 ports for PoE PoE power The HP ProCurve Switch 5412zl is a chassis that can hold up to twelve 24 port modules to provide up to 288 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 ports for PoE PoE power ...

Page 28: ...troduction PoE Capabilities of the Products Introduction The HP ProCurve Switch 8206zl is a chassis that can hold up to six 24 port modules to provide up to 144 10 100 1000Base T RJ 45 ports for PoE PoE power ...

Page 29: ... 5412zl chassis and the 8212zl chassis share a completely common PoE PoE implementation Port counts power supply wattages specifications and functionality for these two platforms are the same with respect to PoE PoE Power Redundancy for the5400zl 8200zl Switches There are three types of power supplied by the Series 5400zl 8200zl switch power supplies 12V power or system power 50V power for PoE pow...

Page 30: ...supported Use the J9306A zl power supply for systems providing PoE and PoE power The reason the power supplies should not be mixed is because the J8712A and J8713A power supplies provide PoE power at 50 volts 273 watts for J8712A and 900 watts for J8713A The J9306A zl power supply provides PoE PoE power at 54 volts 300 watts at 110 volts and 900 watts at 220 volts If you installaJ8712AorJ8713Awith...

Page 31: ... Should one circuit fail it would then be possible for the other circuit to continue supplying power to the second power supply in the switch keeping the switch running There is also an external power supply the HP ProCurve Switch zl Power Supply Shelf J8714A that can be connected to either the 5400zl switches or the 8200zl switch for the purpose of adding extra or backup 50V PoE power The zl Powe...

Page 32: ...e allocated Full redundancy half of the totally available PoE power can be allocated and half is held in reserve for redundancy If power supplies with different ratings are used the highest rated power supply is held in reserve to ensure full redundancy N 1 One of the power supplies is held in reserve for redundancy If a single power supply fails no powered devices are shut down If power supplies ...

Page 33: ...rve 600 Redundant and External Power Supply J8168A or the HP ProCurve 610 External Power Supply J8169A hereafter referred to as the 600 RPS EPS or the 610 EPS respectively ProCurve Switch zl 24 port Gig T PoE Module J8702A The ProCurve Switch zl 24 port PoE Module J8702A is for the HP ProCurve 5400 8200zl switches and has 24 PoE auto sensing 10 100 1000 TX RJ 45 ports All 24 ports are capable of s...

Page 34: ... and has 20 PoE auto sensing 10 100 1000 TX RJ 45 ports All 20 ports are capable of supplying PoE power Additionally there are four mini GBIC SFP ports which do not supply PoE power HP ProCurve 24 Port 10 100 1000 PoE zl Module J9307A The HPProCurve SwitchzlPoE PoE Module J9307A isforthe HPProCurve 5400 8200zl switches and has 24 PoE PoE auto sensing 10 100 1000 TX RJ 45 ports All 24 ports are cap...

Page 35: ...200zl switches and has 20 PoE PoE auto sensing 10 100 1000 TX RJ 45 ports capable of supplying PoE PoE power Additionally there are four mini GBIC SFP ports which do not supply PoE PoE power HP ProCurve 24 Port 10 100 PoE zl Module J9478A The HP ProCurve Switch zl PoE PoE 24 port module J9478A is for the HP ProCurve 5400 8200zl switches and has 24 PoE PoE auto sensing 10 100 TX RJ 45 ports capable...

Page 36: ... 24 12 15 4 watts 24 7 5 watts 42 N A 195 watts available to ports 1 8 provided by the internal source 2600 8 PWR 10 100 8 8 15 4 watts 12 J8168A J8169A 126 watts available to ports 1 8 provided by the internal source 408 2044 watts available provided by the EPS source 2626 PWR 10 100 24 24 15 4 watts 22 J8168A J8169A Redundant 408 2044 watts available to ports 1 24 Only if the internal power supp...

Page 37: ...the internal source 408 2044 wattsavailableto ports 25 48 provided by the EPS source 2910al 24G PoE 10 100 1000 24 24 30 watts5 42 J9146A 382 watts available to ports 1 24 provided by the internal source 770 watts available provided by the EPS source Model Device Port Type Port Count PoE watts per port1 Gig Uplink Ports RPS EPS Maximum Power Internal and External Power Fault Locator Console Spd mo...

Page 38: ...ovided by the external source 3500yl 48G PWR 10 100 1000 48 24 15 4 watts 48 7 5 watts 42 J8696A 786 watts available to ports 1 48 provided by both the internalandexternal sources Model Device Port Type Port Count PoE watts per port1 Gig Uplink Ports RPS EPS Maximum Power Internal and External Power Fault Locator Console LED Mode Clear Reset PoE Integrated 10 100 1000Base T Ports 1 48T Ports are A...

Page 39: ...nd the external source can provide up to 1800 watts depending on which power supplies are installed 8206zl 10 100 1000 Depends on which modules and how many modules Range of 24 144 Depends on which modules and how many modules Rangeof 4 24 J9306A A maximum of 2 internal power supplies up to 1800 watts and the external source can provide up to 1800 watts 5412zl 10 100 1000 Depends on which modules ...

Page 40: ...rt Gig T 4 port mGBIC Module J8705A 10 100 1000 20 20 15 4 watts 0 4 Depends on voltage 100 127 or 200 240 zl PoE 24 Port Module J9307A 10 100 1000 24 up to 30 watts 200 240v 0 J9306A Depends on voltage 100 127 or 200 240 and if using PoE or PoE zl PoE 20 Port Module J9308A 10 100 1000 20 up to 30 watts 200 240v 0 4 J9306A Depends on voltage 100 127 or 200 240 and if using PoE or PoE Model Device ...

Page 41: ...dundant power and extra PoE power can be added by connecting a Redundant and external power supply 2 The uplink ports on this switch are dual personality If the RJ 45 port is used the mini GBIC port is disabled 3 The PoE power for this module must come from an external power supply it does not have any internal PoE power 4 The wattage available to each switch depends on the number of switches conn...

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Page 43: ... Switches The HP ProCurve 2610 PWR Switches The HP ProCurve Redundant and External Power Supplies 600 RPS EPS and 610 EPS The HP ProCurve 1500 W zl PoE Power Supply The HP ProCurve 2910al PoE Switches The HP ProCurve 3500 PoE Switches The HP ProCurve 3500yl PWR Switches The HP ProCurve 3500yl PoE Switches The HP ProCurve External and Redundant Power Supply 620 RPS EPS The HP ProCurve 5400 8200zl S...

Page 44: ...reduces the per port wattage by half as compared to the Switch 2610 24 PWR The Switch 2910al 24G PoE can supply up to 382 watts of PoE power across the 24 ports The Switch 2910al 48G PoE can supply up to 382 watts of PoE power across the 48 ports for PoE applications compati bale with the IEEE 802 3at standard The Switch 3500 24 PoE can supply up to 398watts of PoE power across the 24 ports The Sw...

Page 45: ...xed although not recommended that is one or two J8712As and one or two J8713As can be installed at the same time depending on which of the Series 5400zl 8200zl Switches are being used The J9306A power supply provides up to 300 watts of PoE PoE power at 110 127V and 900 watts of PoE PoE power at 200 240V Mixing this power supply with any other type of power supply is NOT supported N ot e HP ProCurv...

Page 46: ...s will be detected according to the specification and power limits will be enforced By user defined Configurable per port values or a range of ports to power level 1 17 watts or 1 33 watts for the 2910al and 3500yl PoE Switches Incorrectly setting the PoE maximum value to be less than the device requires will result in a PoE fault For more information see the Management and Configuration Guide on ...

Page 47: ...rts assigned with a critical priority are receiving full power If there is not enough power to provision PDs on ports assigned with a high priority then no power goes to the low priority ports If there is enough power to provision PDs on only some of the high priority ports then power is allocated to the high priority ports in ascending order beginning with lowest numbered high priority port until...

Page 48: ...PoE power usage either increasing or decreasing triggers the notice The default setting is 80 A per slot power threshold that applies to an individual PoE module installed in the designated slot This setting acts as a trigger for sending a notice when the module in the specified slot exceeds or goes below a specific level of PoE power consumption For example if the threshold is set at 50 the switc...

Page 49: ...ages and operational modes The most common class is 0 in which the switch will allow a maximum draw of 15 4 watts per port As an example 15 4 watts Power Loss 16 12 95 watts See table 2 7 Table 2 1 Power Usage As you can see in the table for classifications 0 3 any 802 3af compliant PD will never require more than 12 95 watts The switch provides a minimum of 15 4 watts at the port in order to guar...

Page 50: ...wer requirements for that class of PD is available for use In the default switch configuration all PoE ports have a Low priority If the switch has less than 17 W of PoE power available the switch transfers power from lower priority ports to higher priority ports See Switch Priority Class on page 2 5 for information on the use of PoE port priority classifications Within each priority class a lower ...

Page 51: ...power supply in the 5406zl 8206zl or a third power supply in a 5412zl 8212zl chassis depending on how many PoE ports are being supplied with power the switch can have redundant power if one power supply fails A Power Supply Shelf external power supply can also be connected to the 5400zl 8200zl switches to provide extra or redundant PoE power For example if the 5406zl has two 24 port PoE modules J8...

Page 52: ...ocations PoE Power Requirements It is important to understand the PoE power requirements of these switches because if the PoE power is not planned and implemented correctly end devices connected to the PoE switch ports may not receive power if a switch PoE power source failure occurs or if the switch is over provisioned Since there is no external power supply available for these switches it is ver...

Page 53: ...atts Table 2 3 Maximum Power Allocations PoE Devices Internal Only Internal and EPS EPS Only PoE for Switch 2600 8 PWR 126 watts available to ports 1 8 126 watts available to ports 1 8 provided by the internal source 408 204 watts available provided by the EPS source The internal power supply has failed and the EPS provides 408 204 watts to ports 1 8 PoE for Switch 2626 PWR 406 watts available to ...

Page 54: ...a600 RPS EPS or a610 EPS device is connected to the Switch 2626 PWR for the purpose of supplying external power to the PoE portion of the switch there will be either 408 watts or 204 watts of power available should the switch s internal PoE power supply fail If a single switch is connected to the EPS ports on the 600 RPS EPS or a single port of a pair on the 610 EPS 408 watts are available providi...

Page 55: ...Table 2 4 Maximum Power Allocations PoE Devices Internal Only Internal and EPS EPS Only PoE for Switch 2610 24 12PWR 126 watts available to ports 1 12 126 watts available to ports 1 12 provided by the internal source 408 204 watts available provided by the EPS source The internal power supply has failed and the EPS provides 408 204 watts to ports 1 12 PoE for Switch 2610 24 PWR 406 watts available...

Page 56: ...portion of the switch there will be either 408 or 204 watts of power available should the switch s internal PoE power supply fail If a single switch is connected to the EPS ports on the 600 RPS EPS or a single port ofa pair on the 610 EPS 408 watts are available providing fully redundant PoE power to the switch If two switch devices are connected to the EPS ports on the 600 RPS EPS or to both port...

Page 57: ...an extra 382 watts for a total of 764 watts PoE PoE Allocation Using LLDP Information A PoE port can automatically configure certain PoE link partner devices if the device supports advertising of its PoE needs By enabling PoE LLDP detection available information about the power requirements of the PD may be used by the switch to configure the power allocation TheinitialconfigurationforPoE portsmay...

Page 58: ...s all 24 ports The HP ProCurve 3500 48 PoE switch has 48 ports with 398 watts of 50V power across all 48 ports There is a special power provision on the 3500 48 PoE switch where the switch reserves 22 watts for each bank of 24 ports ports 1 24 and 25 48 so that neither set of ports receives the entire 398 watts This is designed for the integrity and safety of PoE during power balancing to properly...

Page 59: ...eaverageperportwattage by half as compared to the Switch 3500yl 24G PWR An external power supply the 620 RPS EPS J8696A can be connected to either of the 3500yl switches to provide redundant or extra PoE power The 620 RPS EPS can be connected to up to two switches and provide 388 watts of 50V power to each switch Table 2 7 Maximum Power Allocations for the 3500yl Switches PoE Devices Internal Only...

Page 60: ...vailable information about the power usage of the PD will be used by the switch to configure the power allocation The default configuration is for PoE information to be ignored if detected through LLDP For more information see the Management and Configuration Guide on the ProCurve Web site at www hp com go procurve manuals HP ProCurve 3500yl PoE Switches Maximum PoE Power The Switch 3500yl 24G PoE...

Page 61: ... used by the switch to configure the power allocation TheinitialconfigurationforPoE portsmay changeifmoreaccurate configuration information is provided by way of LLDP For more information see the Management and Configuration Guide on the ProCurve Web site at www hp com go procurve manuals PoE Devices Internal Only Internal and External External Only PoE for Switch 3500yl 24G PoE 398 watts availabl...

Page 62: ...to 1800 watts depending on which power supplies are installed Table 2 9 Maximum Power Allocations for the 5400zl 8200zl Switches for PoE PoE Devices Internal Only J8712A J8713A Internal and External J8712A J8713A External Only J8712A J8713A PoE for Switch 5406zl 1 power supply J8712A 273 watts 2 power supplies J8712A 546 watts 1 power supply J8713A 900 watts 2 power supplies J8713A 1800 watts 2 po...

Page 63: ...Devices Internal Only J9306A Internal and External J9306A External Only J9306A 110 127V 200 240V 110 127V 200 240V PoE PoE for Switch 5406zl 8206zl 1 300 watts 2 600 watts 1 900 watts 2 1800 watts A maximum of 2 internal powersupplies up to 600 watts and the external source can provide an additional 600 watts A maximum of 2 internal powersupplies up to 1800 watts and the external source can provid...

Page 64: ...of 24 ports will have a PoE power allocation of at least 22 watts This 22 watts must be subtracted from the total wattage when figuring how many PoE devices to connect to which ports on a switch or module In order to be able to allocate the reserved 22 watts either use the ports it is allocated to or the PoE power to all ports on the associated module must be turned off PoE PoE Modules There are t...

Page 65: ...E power from the 600 RPS EPS or an 610 EPS Table 2 11 Maximum Power Allocations PoE Devices Internal Only Internal and EPS EPS Only HP ProCurve Switch xl PoE Module No internal PoE power No internal PoE power See EPS only 408 204 watts available to ports 1 24 on the module If both EPS ports on the 600 RPS EPS or both ports of a pair on the 610 EPS are connected to modules each module can receive 2...

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Page 67: ... ProCurve 2520G 24 PoE Switch Each example shows a complete configuration A table shows the PoE power available to connected PoE devices Once you have selected your specific configuration and the PoE power provided you then add up the maximum amount of power each of your IEEE 802 3af compliant devices require use maximum power in watts usually found on a product s data sheet Adjust this total maxi...

Page 68: ...or 2520G 8 PoE is used to supply PoE power Figure 3 1 Example of a 2520 8 PoE or 2520G 8 PoE Switch If any of the mini GBIC ports are used the corresponding RJ 45 port will not be supplied with PoE power This needs to be taken into consideration when planning per port PoE wattage 8 ports can receive up to 8 watts of PoE power 8 ports can receive up to 7 5 watts of PoE power Source of Power Watts A...

Page 69: ...2520G 24 PoE Switch If any of the mini GBIC ports are used the corresponding RJ 45 port will not be supplied with PoE power This needs to be taken into consideration when planning per port PoE wattage ProCurve Switch 2520G 24 PoE 12 ports can receive up to 15 4 watts of PoE power 24 ports can receive up to 7 5 watts of PoE power ProCurve Switch 2520 24 PoE 12 ports can receive up to 15 4 watts of ...

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Page 71: ...onfiguration including an optional 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit A table shows the PoE power available to connected PoE devices when using just the switch or when using the switch and either the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit The tables show the available power when the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit is providing PoE power to connected switch devices Once you have selected your specific configuration and ...

Page 72: ... switch functionality while the isolated voltage provides power for the PoE functionality If either voltage fails the entire power supply shuts down disconnecting all switch and PoE connections Therefore it is important to provide redundancy for each isolated voltage ProCurve 2600 8 PWR Configurations The tables in the example configurations contain entries that show the PoE power available when t...

Page 73: ...urations contain entries that show the PoE power available when the 2626 PWR is used alone When used with the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit PoE power is available to the PoE ports should the internal PoE power supply fail Table entries show the PoE power available when the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS alone provides PoE power Figure 4 2 Example of an 600 RPS EPS Powering One 2626 PWR Switch Source of Powe...

Page 74: ...igure 4 3 Example of an 600 RPS EPS Powering Two 2626 PWR Switches Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each None Internal plus ExternalPoE Power Supply 406 408 1 24 24 average 15 4 W each 24 average 15 4 W each ExternalPoE Power Supply Failed Internal PoE Power Supp...

Page 75: ...ll 24 ports will receive redundant power should a switch s internal PoE power supply fail Redundant power is available as long as the total power required remains below 204 W Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 2...

Page 76: ... the switch and the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit are supplying power In the default configuration the number and location of ports with redundant PoE power is determined by three factors The number of switches drawing external PoE power from the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit If only a single switch is using external PoE power the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS provides 408 watts of PoE power If two switches ...

Page 77: ...guration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 600 RPS EPS ProCurve Switch 2650 PWR Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 408 1 24 25 48 48 average 15 4 W each 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W eac...

Page 78: ... watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 204 1 24 25 48 24 average 15 4 W each and 24 7 5 W each or 36 average 15 4 W each 10 bank 1 and 2 bank 2 average 15 4 W each 19 bank 1 and 4 bank 2 average 7 5 W each 48 average 4 2 W each External PoE Power Supply...

Page 79: ...240 V 7 5 A Line 50 60 Hz 50 V 16 A RPS 12 V 7 5 A 100 240 V 7 5 A Line 50 60 Hz 50 V 16 A RPS 12 V 7 5 A 100 240 V 7 5 A Line 50 60 Hz 50 V 16 A RPS 12 V 7 5 A 100 240 V 7 5 A Line 50 60 Hz 50 V 16 A RPS 12 V 7 5 A 600 RPS EPS ProCurve Switch 2650 PWR Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply...

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Page 81: ...lanning phase Planning Your PoE Configuration This section assists you in building a reliable and if required redundant PoE configuration Using the following examples you can plan build and connect your PoE devices quickly and easily Your configuration may vary however this section discusses some of the more common configurations There are three configurations ProCurve 2610 24 12PWR Switch ProCurv...

Page 82: ...nto consideration the number of switches the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit is powering N ot e Full redundancy is achieved by connecting both the RPS and EPS ports of the 2610 PWR switches to the corresponding ports of a 600 RPS EPS The following examples only show the EPS connections however remember these switches use a single internal power supply which provides two isolated output voltages for sw...

Page 83: ...management If more power is needed to allow the maximum of 15 4 W on all 12 ports an external power supply accessory is needed Also not shown two 2610 24 12PWR switches with a dedicated 600 RPS EPS unit has full redundant PoE power for both switches The 600 RPS EPS supplies 408 watts to one switch and 204 watts to each switch when two switches are connected to the 600 RPS EPS ProCurve Switch 2610 ...

Page 84: ...vailable when the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS alone provides PoE power Figure 5 2 Example of an 600 RPS EPS Powering One 2610 24 PWR Switch A single 2610 24 PWR switch with a dedicated 600 RPS EPS unit has fully redundant PoE power for all 24 ports at 15 4 W per port ProCurve Switch 2610 24 PWR 600 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powere...

Page 85: ...line loss then all 24 ports will receive redundant power should a switch s internal PoE power supply fail Redundant power is available as long as the total power required remains below 204 W 600 RPS EPS ProCurve Switch 2610 24 PWR Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W...

Page 86: ...en both the switch and the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit are supplying power In the default configuration the number and location of ports with redundant PoE power is determined by three factors The number of switches drawing external PoE power from the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS unit If only a single switch is using external PoE power the 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPS provides 408 watts of PoE power If two sw...

Page 87: ...t configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 ProCurve Switch 2610 48 PWR 600 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 408 1 24 25 48 48 average 15 4 W each 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average...

Page 88: ... Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 204 1 24 25 48 24 average 15 4 W each and 24 7 5 W each or 36 average 15 4 W each 10 bank 1 and 2 bank 2 average 15 4 W each 19 bank 1 and 4 bank 2 average 7 5 W each 48 average 4 2 W each External PoE Powe...

Page 89: ...s Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 406 24 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each None Internal plus External PoE Power Supply 406 204 1 24 25 48 24 average 15 4 W each and 24 7 5 W each or 36 average 15 4 W each 10 bank 1 and 2 bank 2 average 15 4 W each 19 bank 1 and 4 bank 2 average 7 5 W each 48 average 4 2 W each External PoE Power Supply Fail...

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Page 91: ...ion discusses some of the more common configurations There are five configurations One module with a 600 RPS EPS Two modules with a 600 RPS EPS Two modules with a 610 EPS using a separate pair of power ports Two modules with a 610 EPS using the same pair of power ports Four modules with a 610 EPS Each example shows a complete configuration using either a 600 RPS EPS or 610 EPSunit A table shows th...

Page 92: ... ports at 15 4 watts per port N ot e When planning the installation of the ProCurve Switch xl PoE Module you must pay attention to the cabling In a rack type installation the 600 RPS EPS is installed with the EPS ports in the rear opposite this graphic This means the EPS cable must come from the back of the 600 RPS EPS unit and connect to the front of the module hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl...

Page 93: ...de 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link 600 RPS EPS Pr...

Page 94: ...le to one port of pair B hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 1...

Page 95: ...e J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED...

Page 96: ... 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link hp procurve PoE xl module J8161A xl module PoE Link Mode 1 2 3 4 5 6 PoE Ready 10 100 TX Ports 1 24 all ports are HP Auto MDIX 13 14 20 19 12 11 10 9 8 7 15 21 16 22 23 24 17 18 Std PoE PoE EPS Status LED Mode Mode Link hp procurve PoE ...

Page 97: ...easily There are four configurations HP ProCurve 2910al 24G PoE Switch HP ProCurve 2910al 24G PoE Switch connecting an external power supply HP ProCurve 2910al 48G PoE Switch HP ProCurve 2910al 48G PoE Switch connecting an external power supply Eachexample shows a complete configuration Atable shows the PoE power available to connected PoE devices when using just the switch and when connecting an ...

Page 98: ...lable pool of PoE power Power Fault Locator Console Spd mode off 10 Mbps 2 flash 100 Mbps on 1 Gbps 3 flash 10 Gbps LED Mode Clear Reset PoE Integrated 10 100 1000Base T Ports 1 24T Ports are Auto MDIX Test Tmp Status Dual Personality Ports 10 100 1000 T T or SFP S Use only one T or S for each Port PoE Fan 21S 23S 22S 24S FDx Spd PoE Act 14 16 19 17 15 13 18 20 Link Mode 23T 21T 22T 24T Link Mode ...

Page 99: ...nternalpowersupplies fail The630RPS EPScansupplysystem power to keep the switch powered on and PoE power to supply the attached PoE devices with power 2910al 24 port switch 630 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port from internal supply Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 382 12 average 30W each for a total of 360 W 2...

Page 100: ...t plus 6 watts to account for load fluctuations leaving 22 watts to be returned to the pool of available watts Since a port requires 33 watts to power up a PoE device there is not enough available power to power another device Power Fault Locator Console LED Mode Clear Reset PoE Integrated 10 100 1000Base T Ports 1 48T Ports are Auto MDIX Test Tmp Status Dual Personality Ports 10 100 1000 T T or S...

Page 101: ...8 port switches 630 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 382 25 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each 48 average 4 0 W each None Internal plus External PoE power Supply 382 382 1 24 25 48 24 average 30 0 W each for a total of 720 48 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7 5 W each 48...

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Page 103: ...our configurations for the HP ProCurve 3500 HP ProCurve 3500 24 PoE Switch HP ProCurve 3500 24 PoE Switch connecting an external power supply HP ProCurve 3500 48 PoE Switch HP ProCurve 3500 48 PoE Switch connecting an external power supply Each example shows a complete configuration A table below the configuration shows the PoE power available to connected PoE devices when using just the switch On...

Page 104: ... any of the mini GBIC ports are used 21 24 the corresponding RJ 45 port will not be supplied with PoE power This needs to be taken into consideration when planning per port PoE wattage For example if port 24 is used for a mini GBIC then J45 port 24 is disabled The PoE power that was supplied to RJ45 port 24 is returned to the total available pool of PoE power All24portscan receive up to 15 4 watts...

Page 105: ...PS EPS This is a full redundant configuration both of the switches can be supplied with power should either of their internal power supplies fail The 620 RPS EPS can supply system power to keep the switch powered on and PoE power to supply the attached PoE devices with power 3500 24 port switches 620 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port from internal supp...

Page 106: ...e PoE power before the lower priority ports Figure 8 3 Example of an HP ProCurve 3500 48 PoE Switch The lowest loaded bank of ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 For example the switch starts with 398 watts Then it reserves 22 watts per bank leaving 354 watts to...

Page 107: ...e divided in half 199 watts would be allocated to ports 1 24 and 199 watts would be allocated to ports 25 48 There could be 12 devices on the bank with ports 1 24 and 13 devices on the other bank of ports 25 48 Both of these examples use maximum device wattage If however devices using lower wattages are connected there could be more devices connected to the switch than shown in these examples Each...

Page 108: ...bank of ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 3500 48 port switches 620 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 398 25 average 15 4 W each 48 averag...

Page 109: ...ts you in building a PoE or PoE configuration Using the following examples you can plan build and connect PoE or PoE devices quickly and easily There are eight configurations for the HP ProCurve 3500yl Four configurations are for standard PoE and four configurations are for PoE HP ProCurve 3500yl 24G PWR Switch HP ProCurve 3500yl 24G PWR Switch connecting an external power supply HP ProCurve 3500y...

Page 110: ...able shown in the table for your configuration HP ProCurve 3500yl 24G PWR Configuration The table in this example configuration contains entries that show the PoE power available for the 3500yl 24G PWR Figure 9 1 Example of a 3500yl 24G PWR Switch If any of the mini GBIC ports are used 21 24 the corresponding RJ 45 port will not be supplied with PoE power Therefore that needs to be taken into cons...

Page 111: ...is is a full redundant configuration Both of the switches can be supplied with power should either of their internal power supplies fail The 620 RPS EPS can supply system power to keep the switch powered on and PoE power to supply the attached PoE devices with power 3500yl 24 port switches 620 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port from internal supply Redu...

Page 112: ... will receive PoE power before the lower priority ports Figure 9 3 Example of a 3500yl 48G PWR Switch The lowest loaded bank of ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 For example the switch starts with 398 watts Then it reserves 22 watts per bank leaving 354 watts ...

Page 113: ...ted to ports 1 24 and 199 watts would be allocated to ports 25 48 By load balancing in this manner there could be 12 devices on one bank of ports say 1 24 and 13 on the other bank of ports 25 48 Both of these examples use maximum device wattage If however devices using lower wattages are connected there could be more devices connected to the switch than shown in these examples Each environment wil...

Page 114: ...of ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 3500yl 48 port switches 620 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 398 25 average 15 4 W each 48 average 7...

Page 115: ...with PoE power Therefore that needs to be taken into consideration when planning per port PoE wattage If for example port 24 is used for a mini GBIC then the RJ45 port 24 is disabled Therefore the PoE power that was being supplied to the RJ45 port 24 is returned to the total available pool of PoE power All24portscanreceiveup to 15 4 watts of PoE power 13 ports can receive up to 30 watts of PoE pow...

Page 116: ...her part of the internal power supply fail The 630 RPS EPS can supply system power to keep the switch powered on and PoE power to supply the attached PoE devices with power 3500yl 24 port switch 630 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port from internal supply Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 398 13 average 30 W each...

Page 117: ...ve PoE power before the lower priority ports Figure 9 7 Example of a 3500yl 48G PoE Switch The lowest loaded bank of ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 For example the switch starts with 398 watts Then it reserves 22 watts per bank leaving 354 watts total for a...

Page 118: ... be allocated to ports 25 48 By load balancing in this manner there could be 6 devices on one bank of ports say 1 24 and 6 on the other bank of ports 25 48 Both of these examples use maximum device wattage If however devices using lower wattages are connected there could be more devices connected to the switch than shown in these examples Each environment will be different There is a CLI command a...

Page 119: ...f ports 1 24 or 25 48 has 22 watts reserved That power is available for use by the two highest priority ports in the bank in a default configuration ports 1 and 2 or 25 and 26 3500yl 24 port switch 630 RPS EPS Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Internal PoE Power Supply 398 12 average 30 W each 25 average 15 4 W...

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Page 121: ...nd the 8212zl chassis share a common PoE PoE implementation and the 5406zl chassis and the 8206zl chassis share a common PoE PoE implementation Port counts power supply wattages specifications and functionality for these two platforms are the same with respect to PoE and PoE After understanding what PoE is and its operating rules the next step to implementation is planning See General Consideratio...

Page 122: ... Switch Tables 10 1 and 10 2 show the maximum system power available for various power configurations The configurations can be for full redundancy or for N 1 redundancy as illustrated in figure 10 1 Figure 10 1 Example of Full and N 1 Redundancy Configuration 900 Watts PoE PoE power 900 Watts PoE PoE power 900 Watts PoE PoE power 900 Watts PoE PoE power 900 Watts PoE PoE power 900 Watts PoE PoE p...

Page 123: ...20 V J8713A 220 V only N 1 or Full Redundant System Power System Power 12v 1 0 None 2 0 Full up to 600 W system power 0 1 None 0 2 Full Up to 600 W system power Number of Power Supplies Redundancy Model J9306A N 1 or Full Redundant System Power System Power 12v 110 127 V 200 240 V 1 0 None 2 0 Full up to 600 W system power 0 1 None 0 2 Full Up to 600 W system power Switch Model 5406zl 8206zl Numbe...

Page 124: ...Mixed PoE Power NOT Recommended 1 1 N 1 SystemandRedundancy up to 273 W see page 10 13 1173 W With External Power Supplies Added 3 0 N 1 Up to 546 W 819 W 4 0 Full Up to 546 W 1092 W 0 3 N 1 Up to 1800 W 2700 W 0 4 Full Up to 1800 W 3600 W Switch Model 5406zl 8206zl Number of Power Supplies Redundancy Model Non Redundant Power Available J8712A 110 or 220 volts J8713A 220 volts only N 1 or Full Red...

Page 125: ...wer Configurations With External Power Supplies Added 3 0 N 1 Up to 600 W 900 W 4 0 Full Up to 600 W 1200 W 0 3 N 1 Up to 1800 W 2700 W 0 4 Full Up to 1800 W 3600 W Switch Model 5406zl 8206zl Number of Power Supplies J9306A Redundancy Model Non Redundant Power Available 110 127 V 200 240 V N 1 or Full Redundant PoE PoE Power Non Redundant PoE PoE Power Number of Power Supplies Redundancy Model J87...

Page 126: ... 12v 110 127 V 200 240 V 2 0 None 3 0 N 1 Up to 1200 W system power 4 0 Full Up to 1200 W system power 0 2 _ None 0 3 N 1 Up to 1200 W system power 0 4 Full Up to 1200 W system power Switch Model 5412zl 8212zl Number of Power Supplies Redundancy Model Non Redundant Power Available J8712A 110 or 220 volts J8713A 220 volts only N 1 or Full Redundant PoE Power Non Redundant PoE Power PoE Power 50v In...

Page 127: ...ing PoE power supplies J8712A and J8713A with the J9306A in PoE PoE switches is NOT supported Use the J9306A zl power supply for switches providing both PoE and PoE power With External Power Supplies Added 5 0 N 1 Up to 1092 W 1365 W 6 0 Full Up to 819 W 1638 W 0 5 N 1 Up to 3600 W 4500 W 0 6 Full Up to 2700 W 5400 W Switch Model 5412zl 8212zl Number of Power Supplies Redundancy Model Non Redundan...

Page 128: ...pplies J9306A Redundancy Model Non Redundant Power Available 110 127 V 200 240 V N 1 or Full Redundant PoE PoE Power Non Redundant PoE PoE Power PoE PoE Power 54v Internal 2 0 None 600 W 3 0 N 1 Up to 300 W 900 W 4 0 Full Up to 600 W 1200 W 0 2 None 1800 W 0 3 N 1 Up to 900 W 2700 W 0 4 Full Up to 1800 W 3600 W With External Power Supplies Added 5 0 N 1 Up to 1200 W 1500 W 6 0 Full Up to 900 W 180...

Page 129: ...al maximum power figure by adding 16 to account for possible line loss This value must be less than the maximum power available shown in the table for your configuration HP ProCurve 5406zl Configurations The table in each example configuration contains entries that show the PoE power available for the PoE modules Figure 10 2 Example of a 5406zl with one power supply J8712A In this example there is...

Page 130: ... for each module In order to use the 22 watts PDs must be connected to each module or all ports on one module could have the PoE power disabled Figure 10 3 Example of a 5406zl with two power supplies J8712A There are two power supplies supplying 273 watts each for a maximum of 546 watts 35 ports can receive up to 15 4 watts of PoE power The PoE power for all ports on this module has been disabled ...

Page 131: ... the PoE usage in order to maintain redundancy Connecting a fully loaded external power supply can double the available PoE power See page 10 14 Figure 10 4 Example of a 5406zl with one power supply J8713A In this example Figure 10 4 there is one J8713A power supply supplying 900 watts for PoE usage Compared to the J8712A one J8713A power supply can supply more PoE wattage than two J8712As This co...

Page 132: ...ain redundancy In this example the threshold command could be set at 50 and if the switch begins to use more than 900 watts an event message would be logged allowing you to adjust the PoE load or add a Power Supply Shelf for additional power as required to obtain the best power balance for your operation Connecting a fully loaded external power supply can double the available PoE power See page 10...

Page 133: ...y PoE power at 273 watts and the other power supply J8713A could be used as a secondary power supply If both power supplies are connected to different power sources one could backup the other in case of failure However if the J8713A power supply fails the J8712A can keep the switch running but cannot supply all the PoE power that the J8713A was supplying Therefore you need to plan very carefully w...

Page 134: ...turns out the 273 W supply failed the system will detect that during the power supply polling cycle and increase power back up to 900 W total This would result in some load coming back on if the total power used by all the loads in the box was greater than 273 W ProCurve 5406zl and 8206zl Configurations using the Power Supply Shelf The following example configurations are the same for the 5406zl a...

Page 135: ...pply operating at 110 127 volts providing 300 watts for PoE PoE usage Figure 10 9 Example of a 5406zl with One Power Supply J9306A 110 127 Volts Back Power Supply J9306A Front 300 watts for PoE PoE Source of Power Watts Available 110 127 V of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Single Internal PoE Power Supply J9306A 300 W 10 average 30 W each 19 ...

Page 136: ... PoE PoE usage Figure 10 10 HP ProCurve 8206zl Switch If low wattage devices 4 0 watts are connected to the switch a 24 port module could be installed in each of the six slots providing 144 ports that could be powered by a single J9306A power supply Source of Power Watts Available 200 240 V of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Single Internal Po...

Page 137: ...ain redundancy HP ProCurve 8206zl Configurations using the Power Supply Shelf The Power Supply Shelf can be connected to the 8206zl to supply extra or redundant PoE power to the PoE modules See Figures 10 7 and 10 8 for representative examples of using the Power Supply Shelf Source of Power Watts Available of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Tw...

Page 138: ...ions Using the J9306A Power Supply HP ProCurve 5412zl 8212zl Configurations using the Power Supply Shelf Standard J8712A Configurations The table in each example configuration contains entries that show the PoE power available for the PoE modules There needs to be two power supplies in the 5412zl 8212zl chassis to power all 12 slots Only one power supply in the 5412zl 8212zl is an unsupported conf...

Page 139: ...e modules in order to effectively use all 546 watts The number of devices and wattage must be split between the modules This would also help limit the effects of a single module failure If one module fails only the devices on that module would lose power In this example there are three modules in the chassis and therefore 22 watts is reserved for each module In order to use the 22 watts PDs must b...

Page 140: ... 22 watts is reserved for its use In this configuration one power supply 273 watts could be used for redundant power However remember it can only support a limited number of ports depending on the wattages that are being supplied to the ports 53 ports can receive up to 15 4 watts of PoE 273 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE Back Front 5portsmustbe used on this module Source of Powe...

Page 141: ...eld in reserve as redundant power supplies if the primary power supplies fail If two power supplies are connected to different power sources they could backup the other two in case of failure With this option the user must manage the PoE usage in order to maintain redundancy 71 ports can receive up to 15 4 watts of PoE power Back Front 273 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE 273 watt...

Page 142: ...aving 953 watts Then provision the other 238 ports at 4 watts using 952 watts of the remaining 953 watts Finally leaving 1 watt This configuration could be redundant for PoE power up to 900 W The upper 6 slots would stay up if they were the ports suppling the PoE power and the lower 6 slots were used for other than PoE power One power supply has enough power to supply system power to the upper 6 s...

Page 143: ...and a half modules Or all ports could be used at 7 5 watts Two power supplies could be used to supply PoE power at 1800 watts and the other one power supply could be held in reserve as redundant power supply if one of the primary power supplies fail However this configuration cannot be fully redundant Back Front 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE Source of Power Watts Available ...

Page 144: ...1800 watts and the other two power supplies could be used as secondary power supplies If the two sets of power supplies are connected to different power sources one set of two could backup the other two in case of failure With this option the user must manage the PoE usage in order to maintain redundancy Back Front 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE Source of P...

Page 145: ...onfiguration Figure 10 17 is an example of three power supplies two J8712As supplying 546 watts and one J8713A supplying 900 watts for a maximum of 1446 watts Therefore out of the total 288 available ports 93 can be powered at 15 4 watts each Redundancy now becomes an issue You can use the one J8713A 900 watts to backup the two J8712As if either one of them fails but you cannot use the two J8712As...

Page 146: ...5 4 watts each In this example one J8713A could be held in reserve to provide redundant power for the other J8713A since they are equal in power However if the J8712A should fail there would be no redundancy for that power supply unless you borrow power from the reserve J8713A If you do that and the primary J8713A fails there will not be enough power to fully backup the failed J8713A Back Front 90...

Page 147: ...that the two types of power supplies are not mixed in the same 5412zl 8212zl chassis The reason the redundant ofports in this table is so lowis because redundant PoE power should always be based on the smallest power supply In this case the smallest power supply is the 8712A providing 546 watts Back Front 900 watts for PoE 900 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE 273 watts for PoE Source of Power Watts...

Page 148: ... PoE PoE ports can be powered at various wattages for the J9306A power supply operating at 200 240 volts Source of Power Watts Available at 110 127V of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Redundant of Ports Powered and Average watts Port Two Internal PoE PoE Power Supplies J9306A 600 without redundancy 20 average 30 W each 38 average 15 4 W each 80 average 7 5 W each 144 average 4 0 W each 10 ave...

Page 149: ... average 30 W each 58 average 15 4 W each 120 average 7 5 W each 144 average 4 0 W each Four Internal PoE PoE Power Supplies J9306A 3600 without redundancy 120 average 30 W each 232 average 15 4 W each 288 average 7 5 W each 288 average 4 0 W each 60 average 30 W each 116 average 15 4 W each 120 average 7 5 W each 288 average 4 0 W each FourInternalplus Two External PoE PoE Power Supplies J9306A A...

Page 150: ...5412zl 8212zl to supply extra or redundant PoE power to the PoE modules installed in the 5412zl 8212zl Either EPS port on the Power Supply Shelf can be connected to either EPS port on the switch To avoid confusion it is recommended that EPS 1 of the Power Supply Shelf be connected to EPS 1 of the switch Figure 10 21 Connecting the EPS to one 5412zl switch To Power Source EPS Cables To Power Source...

Page 151: ...l 8200zl Switches In this configuration EPS 2 of the Power Supply Shelf can be connected to either EPS 1 or EPS 2 of either switch Figure 10 22 Connecting the EPS to two switches one 5412zl and one 8212zl To Power Source To Power Source ToPower Source ToPower Source ToPower Source EPS Cables EPS 1 EPS 2 EPS 2 EPS 1 5412zl 8212zl ...

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Page 153: ... area the total BTU needs of the air conditioning system for the whole building for example needs to take this additional cooling requirement into consideration When adding a Redundant Power Supply RPS the BTU rating can grow to approximately 3500 and more This example only takesinto consideration one PoE switch with redundantpower Asmore switches PoE PDs and redundant power supplies are added the...

Page 154: ...ther equipment in your network due to the added PoE power supplies Also if RPS units have been added to the rack or wiring closet ensure enough space has been planned for all devices Space around the switch and aroundthe other unitsmustbe available to allow access by service personnel space for power cords and other wiring cool air circulation Racks PoE switch devices and RPS units may be heavier ...

Page 155: ...es wire less access points and remote video cameras port number priority Refers to the type of power prioritization where within a priority class the switch assigns the highest priority to the lowest numbered port the second highest priority to the second lowest numbered port and so on Note that power priority rules apply only if PoE provisioning on the switch becomes oversubscribed PoE Power Over...

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Page 157: ... devices need PoE power What devices will need PoE power How much power will each device require in watts What is the total of all their wattages Will the devices be connected to a 2910al 3500yl 5400 or to a 8200zl switch How many ports are needed How many ports are available Are the devices to be powered by PoE power supported The ProCurve Switches covered in this manual support any products that...

Page 158: ...l Switches What if power is lost to the switch Power for the switch to operate system power Power for PoE devices Which devices to plug into which ports and with what priorities Port prioritization Port priority class Total watts available 382 Which bank of 24 ports will be used Will load balancing be used Will any mini GBICs be used and in what ports Should the 630 RPS EPS be plugged into a diffe...

Page 159: ... What if power is lost to the switch Power for the switch to operate system power Power for PoE devices Which devices to plug into which ports and with what priorities Port prioritization Port priority class Reserve watts Total watts available 398 Which bank of 24 ports will be used Will load balancing be used Will any mini GBICs be used and in what ports Should the 620 RPS EPS be plugged into a d...

Page 160: ...hes What if power is lost to the switch Power for the switch to operate system power Power for PoE devices Which devices to plug into which ports and with what priorities Port prioritization Port priority class Reserve watts Total watts available 398 Which bank of 24 ports will be used Will load balancing be used Will any mini GBICs be used and in what ports Should the 620 RPS EPS be plugged into ...

Page 161: ...hes What if power is lost to the switch Power for the switch to operate system power Power for PoE devices Which devices to plug into which ports and with what priorities Port prioritization Port priority class Reserve watts Total watts available 398 Which bank of 24 ports will be used Will load balancing be used Will any mini GBICs be used and in what ports Should the 630 RPS EPS be plugged into ...

Page 162: ...uring the planning phase specific to the 5400zl 8200zl Switches What if power is lost to the switch Power for the switch to operate system power Power for PoE devices Which devicesto plug into which ports modules and with what priorities Slot prioritization Port prioritization Port priority class Reserve watts Total watts available Which modules will be used for PoE and which will not Will load ba...

Page 163: ...internal power supply 1 20 introduction 1 1 J J9306A power supply 2 3 10 28 L line loss power loss 2 7 LLDP for PoE allocation 2 15 2 17 2 19 M maximum PoE power 2 16 maximum power allocations 2 15 2 17 2 19 2 21 minimum watts 2 8 module 24 port PoE PoE 1 24 24 port zl 10 100 PoE PoE 1 25 xl PoE for 5300 2 23 zl 20 port PoE PoE 1 25 O operating rules 2 1 overview 1 1 P PDs power classification usa...

Page 164: ...1 4 power supplies 1500 W PoE zl 10 28 3500 redundant 8 6 J8712A 1 20 J8713A 1 20 J9306A 1 20 10 28 J9306A description 2 3 J9306A with 8206zl 10 16 mixing 10 28 PoE 1 21 PoE PoE 1 20 1 21 why not to mix 1 20 power supply shelf with 5406zl 8206zl 10 14 with 5412zl 8212zl configs 10 30 powered devices 1 4 2 8 pre standard PoE devices 1 9 1 11 1 13 1 14 1 16 disabling 1 11 1 13 1 14 1 16 priority cla...

Page 165: ...Index 3 Index system power 5412zl 8212zl 10 5 10 6 T threshold configuing global 2 6 configuring per slot 2 6 ...

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Page 168: ...information contained herein is subject to change without notice The only warranties for HP products and services are set forth in the express warranty statements accompanying such products and services Nothing herein should be construed as constituting an additional warranty HP will not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein February 2010 Manual Part Number 5991...

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