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Geberit Drainage Systems

System installation

Dimension of drop rod or flat iron profile:

The distance 

<<

L

>>

 and the thrust force 

<<

P

>>

 have 

to be taken into account when selecting the diameter 
of the drop rod between mounting plate and  
bracket. For the required drop rod dimension, see 
the table below.

If they can not meet these dimensional requirements, 
additional struts will be required to provide sufficient 
rigidity to resist the forces generated by the system 
due to thermal expansion. The third party supplier 
must provide the necessary calculations to prove their 
product is fit for purpose.

5.2.4

  Suspended rail system

The Geberit Pluvia rail system was developed for the 
suspended installation of horizontal pipework.  
The system includes a metal rail that absorbs all the 
forces generated when the pipe tries to expand.  
Geberit guarantees this system to control all forces and 
only dead weight fixings are required to the ceiling.

Advantages of the rail system:

• Quick installation.
• Fewer ceiling fastening points.
• Controls thermal movement.
• No expansion because of rigid installation.
• No expansion sockets in the horizontal pipes.
• Simple prefabrication is possible.
• One fastening for anchor and 

support

 brackets. 

Ceiling

 

Geberit Dimensions

or wall 

50-56

63-75

90 

110 

125 

160

distance pipe  pipe

pipe pipe  W 

pipe  W 

pipe  W

L . (mm) 

Ø 

Ø 

Ø 

Ø 

cm

3

Ø

cm

3

Ø

cm

3

100

 

1

2

” 

3

4

” 

1” 1” 

5

4

” 

150

 

3

4

1”

1” 

5

4

5

4

2”

200

 

3

4

1”

5

4

” 1

1

2

1

1

2

2”

250

 

1”

1”

5

4

” 1

1

2

2” 

9.3

300

 

1” 

5

4

” 

5

4

” 2” 

2” 

11.2

350

 

5

4

” 

5

4

1

1

2

” 2” 

2” 

13.0

400

 

5

4

” 

5

4

1

1

2

” 2” 

9.0 

15.0

450

 

5

4

1

1

2

”  2”  2” 

10.1

16.8

500

 

5

4

1

1

2

”  2” 

9.5 

11.3

17.7

550

 

5

4

1

1

2

” 

2” 

10.5

12.4 

20.5

600

 

1

1

2

1

1

2

” 

2” 

11.4

13.6 

22.4

W = indication coefficient for steel profile.

Summary of Contents for HDPE

Page 1: ...DRAINAGE SYSTEMS INSTALLATION GUIDE VALID FROM 1 NOVEMBER 2018...

Page 2: ...ntrol and installation recommendations DIN EN 12666 1 Plastic piping systems for non pressure underground drainage and sewerage systems Polyethylene PE Introduction Geberit HDPE is the total solution...

Page 3: ...methods 16 4 1 Butt welding 17 4 1 1 Butt welding by hand 18 4 1 2 Butt welding by machine 19 4 2 Electrofusion coupling 20 4 2 1 Electrofusion coupling for pipes 40 to 160mm 21 4 2 2 Electrofusion co...

Page 4: ...vent overview 46 6 1 1 Geberit Sovent planning 6 1 2 Geberit Sovent stack sizing 52 6 1 3 Geberit Sovent installation 52 6 2 Geberit air admittance valve overview 53 6 2 1 Geberit air admittance valve...

Page 5: ...footprint and chemical waste The system is manufactured from High Density Polyethylene a material with inherent properties that provide many advantages over other traditional piping systems This has...

Page 6: ...upling the stack from the structure The complete range consists of pipes and fittings in dimensions from 56mm to 160mm This guarantees complete acoustic insulation from the appliance connection throug...

Page 7: ...ening of length Resistance to cold When Geberit HDPE and Geberit Silent db20 parts are filled with water and then freeze they stretch elastically as the ice expands Once the ice melts they resume thei...

Page 8: ...d Resistance to hot water Geberit HDPE can be safely used as a waste pipe with continuous flow temperatures of up to 80 C and for intermittent discharges of up to 100 C for short periods maximum 1 min...

Page 9: ...n installed throughout Europe for over 40 years and when installed in accordance with local regulations present no greater risk of fire propagation than similar plastic based systems Use with Geberit...

Page 10: ...in mountain areas and in the food canning and packaging industry Working pressures Geberit HDPE and Geberit Silent db20 pipes are designed for drainage systems Their use in low pressure areas swimmin...

Page 11: ...24 12 5 4 367 000 16 0 125 4 9 115 2 104 5 1 750 12 171 12 5 4 368 000 16 0 160 6 2 147 6 171 1 2 840 19 947 12 5 4 369 000 16 0 200 7 7 184 6 268 4 4 442 31 158 12 5 4 370 050 16 0 250 9 7 230 6 418...

Page 12: ...e Dia Area Water Volume Weight Full Article No d mm s mm di mm A cm2 l m Kg m 56 3 2 49 6 19 3 1 93 2 83 305 000 14 1 63 3 2 56 6 25 1 2 51 3 53 306 000 14 1 75 3 6 67 8 36 1 3 60 4 97 307 000 14 1 90...

Page 13: ...pipe materials For full details see chemical resistance tables in the appendix to this guide to assess the performance of Geberit HDPE at various temperatures The pH value is therefore important in as...

Page 14: ...sing through structure Contain pipes in duct work preferably with an acoustic material either Wrapped around the pipe Geberit Isol On two surfaces of the duct inner face Additional considerations When...

Page 15: ...ight 3kg m2 flame retardant 3 Semi open cell PU foam 15 Anthracite grey volumetric acoustic foam open cell weight 30kg m3 4 Self adhesive layer Polyolefin Colourless used as only applicable to self ad...

Page 16: ...fixed with tape to prevent the escape of sound Installation dimensions 5 Use commercial adhesive tape approximately 7cm wide to mask off adjacent point against condensation 1 2 3 4 Fastening distance...

Page 17: ...ng seal socket Screw threaded joint Linear expansion socket Flange joint Contraction sleeve The many Geberit jointing methods offer solutions for all situations and each type of connection has differe...

Page 18: ...rger diameter pipes the use of centering rings may be required to reform pipes to true circles Butt welding takes up little space The edge of the weld does not obstruct the pipe leaving its internal c...

Page 19: ...ting process carefully 4 Maintain the maximum pressure until the welding seam has cooled approximately 30 seconds Do not accelerate the cooling down by contact with cold objects or water 3 When melted...

Page 20: ...clean and plane Check the cut faces by bringing them together 3 Melt pipe ends with welding plate green light on until the melted bulge is about as big as half of the wall thickness depending on the s...

Page 21: ...internal bore of the joint because the ends and the centre of the fitting are deliberately kept cold during the welding process The joint obtained is simple quick and strong once made The heater wires...

Page 22: ...ect electrofusion machine start welding procedure Welding time approximately 70 90 seconds 3 After the end indicator has turned on remove the connection cable The protruding yellow indicator shows whe...

Page 23: ...o 7 minutes at 20 C Check indicator window on coupling has changed from white to black 5 Wait for at least 15 minutes after weld has been completed before removing the centering rings Do not remove th...

Page 24: ...d parts for ease of assembly Assembly May be used either vertically or horizontally The small overall dimensions provide an advantage where space is limited Can easily be assembled or released even wh...

Page 25: ...nkage of the O ring occurs The O ring has a round seat regardless of pipe movement The O ring remains fixed in the seat and is always in contact with the pipe Length x varies with the diameter Ideal f...

Page 26: ...nnection system offers easy connection to existing iron and steel installations As inspection access opening made by using a blind flange Flanges are sintered i e they are coated with polyethylene and...

Page 27: ...urface area of the seal is in contact with the water Complete screw threaded joint B 360 740 001 1 2 3 4 Nut Washer Seal Thread 4 6 1 Screw threaded joint with flange bushing Available from 40 to 110m...

Page 28: ...arger acoustic brackets i e for 110mm expansion coupling use 125mm bracket Insert pipe into sealing socket to the insertion markings on the side of the coupling The expansion socket must be anchored t...

Page 29: ...the fixed end of the coupling onto the pipe NB For use as a 160mm expansion fitting withdraw the pipe by 15mm maximum of 3m centres between fixed points Insert the pipe into expansion side of the coup...

Page 30: ...60 721 16 1 40 1 361 719 16 1 50 1 2 361 720 16 1 50 3 4 361 721 16 1 50 1 361 722 16 1 50 1 1 4 361 723 16 1 50 1 1 2 363 724 16 1 56 2 364 724 16 1 63 2 365 725 16 1 75 2 1 2 Rp H d R H d 4 9 Jointi...

Page 31: ...rass with HDPE loose nut and EPDM seal for mechanical jointing to HDPE and screw thread jointing to other materials Geberit HDPE adapter in brass with female thread and HDPE nut Article no d R mm 359...

Page 32: ...to 230mm Connection properties a Rigid non removable a Non tension resistant Application The Geberit HDPE contraction sleeve is a convenient connection possibility for most uneven irregular or special...

Page 33: ...inting methods Cast Iron connector Provides male spigot for direct connection into Ensign cast iron clamp joint with an internal taper to prevent damming HDPE end has spigot for either butt welding or...

Page 34: ...X d1 D E E H Reinforcing ring Metal ring for insertion into HDPE pipe to provide support to resist distortion of pipe when clamping coupling is applied Reinforcing ring for adapter clamp Adapter to c...

Page 35: ...chor brackets 5 1 1 Guide brackets Application For the distance L please see table a page 39 40 160mm M10 B 360 840 001 M10 B 362 837 001 M10 200 315mm 1 B 362 846 001 B 360 840 001 1 1 B 362 826 001...

Page 36: ...n bracket and wall fixing depends on length Contact Geberit Technical for advice please see section 5 2 1 for additional data on fixing using drop rods Geberit Silent db20 pipes are to be fixed with a...

Page 37: ...engths over 4 metres are fitted with an expansion socket which contains a lubricated seal ring for easy movement of the pipe and an expansion gap within the joint to allow for thermal expansion of the...

Page 38: ...depth on the pipe Geberit HDPE 80mm at 0 C 32 F Geberit HDPE 105mm at 20 C 68 F Distance Drop rod Drop rod Drop rod Drop rod Drop rod Drop rod Drop rod from ceiling diameter diameter diameter diameter...

Page 39: ...ic load The following conditions are important to ensure perfect and easy assembly of the sleeve 1 Chamfering the inserted pipe end to approximately 15 2 Check the scale on the outer surface of the ex...

Page 40: ...no branch connections the expansion fitting must be fitted at a maximum of 6 metre centres 2 With branch connections the expansion fitting must be installed close to the up stream end of any branch Wi...

Page 41: ...he bending leg will be larger than the maximum bracket spacing Length of the deflection leg DL in mm according to the formula The change in length is determined with the following formula L Change in...

Page 42: ...that can verify they can withstand the forces shown in the table above 5 2 3 Rigid fixing Principal Any variation in length must be prevented by embedded fixed points electrofusion couplings branches...

Page 43: ...expansion or contraction of Geberit HDPE pipes Examples of anchor brackets The examples of anchor brackets below show typical rigid installations Rigid fixing Anchor brackets Anchor bracket with doubl...

Page 44: ...includes a metal rail that absorbs all the forces generated when the pipe tries to expand Geberit guarantees this system to control all forces and only dead weight fixings are required to the ceiling...

Page 45: ...sheet Type 2 PE to be welded with Samafil FPO A foil For Geberit HDPE pipes 50 56 75 90 110 and 125mm Attention Thermal expansion or contraction of the pipe is to be prevented Maximum water pressure...

Page 46: ...on NOTE Wrap acoustic sheet around pipe and tape in position prior to assembly of fire protection sleeve Article No d d1 DN D L l1 mm mm cm cm cm 348 300 00 1 32 56 66 30 56 7 8 8 5 5 3 348 301 00 1 6...

Page 47: ...free air circulation in the stack the opening smoothes the water flow in the connected branches When a Geberit Sovent system is planned the following points have to be observed in addition to the gene...

Page 48: ...45 2 x 45 2 DN A This combination of two offsets with two 45 bends is only allowed when no appliances are connected on the corresponding floor 6 m 6 m A 2 x 45 2 x 45 2 DN A This combination of two of...

Page 49: ...1 Planning of branch ventilation The maximum length of branch discharge pipes and the branch ventilation pipes are laid out in the applicable country specific standards and regulations and must be fol...

Page 50: ...essure relief Alternative stack ventilation system Geberit Drainage Systems Note When several Sovent stacks are connected to an underground pipe or a collector pipe they must be dimensioned in accorda...

Page 51: ...dimension of the branch discharge pipe is 63mm The connection is made exclusively using an 88 5 branch fitting 63 DN 60 Geberit Drainage Systems Alternative stack ventilation system Discharge stack wi...

Page 52: ...ed in accordance with the following scheme for each additional stack connected The use of air admittance valves in Sovent stacks is not permitted Air admittance valves can have a negative effect on th...

Page 53: ...econdary ventilation is not necessary The installation of a Sovent fitting is similar to the installation of an ordinary branch fitting The Sovent fitting has six connection possibilities The connecti...

Page 54: ...age system inside buildings Part 2 sanitary pipework layout and calculation In conjunction with main ventilation the valve can be used As a replacement for the second main ventilation system or recirc...

Page 55: ...5 cm 150 cm 15 cm 10 0 m PP 32 DN 30 PP 40 DN 40 PP 50 DN 50 Connection dimensions for toilet pipe ventilation on horizontal connection pipe Installation instructions 1 Install a connection piece on t...

Page 56: ...ated articles are not included in the scope of delivery they have to be ordered separately The connector has to be adjusted when using pipes of DN 40 40 max 100 cm min 10 cm max 150 cm min 10 cm min 1...

Page 57: ...ternal water pressures exceeding 2 metres head high water table Contaminated ground conditions Pipes subjected to internal negative pressures If during the construction stage high point will be experi...

Page 58: ...tion Side fill to upper edge of pipe P Protective layer With trench profile 1A cover to above top edge of pipe over entire width of trench minimum 300mm Maximum 40mm stone sile no heavy compaction equ...

Page 59: ...d for For this reason in underground installations the distance between expansion sockets can be longer The values calculated according to the formula and rounded off Please note The scale found on th...

Page 60: ...resulting from expansion and contraction are considerable They must be absorbed by the embedded fixpoints alone since cement concrete will not adhere to Geberit HDPE pipework Reduced small branches o...

Page 61: ...it assures tightness and at the same time provides maximum flexibility Deflection leg The length of the deflection leg is dependant upon the expected settling and on the pipe diameter Note The insulat...

Page 62: ...to be expected such a sleeve must have the same ideal characteristics as Geberit HDPE it must assure tightness and at the same time flexibility A rubber ring provides the flexible seal between sleeve...

Page 63: ...L Aluminium chloride GL Aluminium chloride solid Aluminium fluoride GL Aluminium hydroxide Aluminium metaphosphate Aluminium sulphate any Aluminium sulphate solid Amidosulphates amido sulphonic acid s...

Page 64: ...TR Butandial any Butane gaseous TR Butanol any Butanon Butantriol any Butindial 100 Butoxyl methosybutylacetate Butter Buttermilk Butyl acetate TR Butyl acrylate Butyl alcohol Butyl benzylphthalate Bu...

Page 65: ...hol rectified spirit ethyl alcohol wine spirit Ethyl alcohol denatured 2 Toluol Ethyl alcohol fermation mash G Ethyl alcohol acetic acid fermentation mix G Ethyl benzene TR Chlorobenzol TR Chloroform...

Page 66: ...ne TR Ethylene diamintetra acetic acid Ethylene bromide Ethylene chloride dichlorethylene Ethylene glycol TR Ethylene oxide gaseous TR Ethylene oxide liquid TR Ethyl ether Ether Diethyler TR 2 ethylhe...

Page 67: ...um hydroxide GL Magnesium iodide Magnesium salts any Magnesium sulphate any Maleic acid GL Malic acid 1 Malic acid 50 Malic acid Manganese sulphate Margarine GL Maschine oil TR Mashed potato Mashes Ma...

Page 68: ...gaseous TR Phosgene liquid TR Phosphates any Phosphoroxichloride Phosphorpentoxide 100 Phosphoric acid 50 95 Phosphoric acid Phosphortrichloride TR Phosphoryl chloride TR Mixed acid 50 31 19 50 33 17...

Page 69: ...id 50 Phtalic acid GL Phtalic acid ester Picric acid 1 Picric acid GL Polychlorinated biphenyl PCB Polyester resins Polyester softeners Polyglycols Pork dripping Potash potassium carbonate any Potassi...

Page 70: ...gen sulphate sodium bisulphate 10 Sodium hydrogen sulphite sodium bisulphite any Sodium hydroxide caustic soda any Sodium hypochlorite Javel water 5 Sodium hypochlorite 12 5 Sodium iodide L Sodium cop...

Page 71: ...icate any Wattle vegetable H Wattle from cellulose H Wine H Wine vinegar vinegar H Wine spirit ethyl alcohol ethanol rectified spirit 96 White spirit TR White spirit cristal oil TR Whisky H Whwy Wood...

Page 72: ...5133 www geberit co uk Subject to change without notice The information in this document contains general descriptions of the technical options available which do not always have to be present in the...

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