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02/2021

Vetron 5374 HotAir-Welding

01. PREFACE

03.

DANGER NOTES

CRUSHING!

Bruising and crushing by the feed wheels

Make sure you have enough finger clearance to the feed wheels
Risk of injury due to the nozzle head lifting and lowering and the feeding of the material
by the feed nozzles

BURNS!

Risk of burns through the hot air nozzle

Make sure you have enough finger clearance to the hot air nozzle
Risk of injury due to heating of the material and the nozzle.

CRUSHING!

Bruises and crushing by the tape feed

Risk of injury by adjusting the nozzle and pulling in the material.

FEED WHEELS

HOT AIR NOZZLE

TAPE FEED

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Страница 1: ...5374 SERVICE MANUAL 02 2021 ...

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Страница 3: ...5374 SERVICE MANUAL 02 2021 ...

Страница 4: ... VETRON Typical GmbH is only liable for damage caused by intent or gross negligence on the part of the manufacturer Moreover liability is excluded Reserve technical changes The contents were carefully prepared and checked by the publisher Due to continuous develop ments illustrations functional steps and technical data may differ slightly Updating the documentation If you have suggestions for impr...

Страница 5: ...UCT INTRODUCTION INTENDED USE CONFORMITY DECLARATION 11 05 TECHNICAL DATA 12 06 TRANSPORT PACKAGING DISPOSAL STORAGE FIRST COMMISSIONING DECOMMISSIONING 02 OPERATING ELEMENTS 13 01 OVERVIEW 14 02 VETRON OPERATING FIELD P107 15 03 HOTKEYS 16 04 ELECTRONIC HANDWHEEL FEED BUTTON 17 05 CONTROL MAIN SWITCH 18 06 PEDAL CONTENT ...

Страница 6: ... ERROR MESSAGES 04 PROGRAMMING 29 01 CREATE NEW PROGRAM 31 02 SAVE 32 03 CANCEL 33 04 PROGRAM CHANGE VIA PARAMETERS 05 ADMINISTRATION UPDATE 35 01 COPY PROGRAMS 36 02 DELETE COPY PROGRAMS 37 03 COPY MACHINE PARAMETERS 38 04 UPDATING THE OPERATING PROGRAM 06 PROGRAM MACHINE PARAMETER 39 01 PROGRAM MACHINE PARAMETER SETTING 40 02 PROGRAM PARAMETER LIST 42 03 MACHINE PARAMETER LIST 48 04 RESETTING TH...

Страница 7: ...0 02 LUBRICATE THE WHEELS 08 ADJUSTMENT 51 01 IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING ADJUSTMENT 52 02 PNEUMATIC CONNECTION 53 03 ADJUST THE ARM 54 04 CHANGE FEEDING WHEELS 55 05 KNIFE CHANGE 56 06 CHANGE NOZZLE 58 07 NOZZLE DISTANCE 59 08 HEIGHT MEASURING SYSTEM 09 SUPPORT 61 01 SUPPORT FORMULAR CONTENT ...

Страница 8: ...06 02 2021 Vetron 5374 HotAir Welding ...

Страница 9: ...achine must be disconnected from the mains For repairs only spare parts approved by VETRON may be used In case of infringement the guarantee expires The machines are to be used only for the purpose intended If oils greases etc used for the machines and accessories get in your eyes or on your skin or should you swallow any of these fluids wash them immediately and thoroughly or seek medical attenti...

Страница 10: ...n increased risk of burning here MAGNET This symbol indicates that there is a magnet field SAFETY SCREW This symbol displays that this screw should not be loosened INFORMATION This symbol displays information ADVICE This symbol indicates important information HARMFUL TO HEALTH May damage certain organs Can lead to immediate and long term massive impairment of health cause cancer damage genetic mat...

Страница 11: ...nozzle head lifting and lowering and the feeding of the material by the feed nozzles BURNS Risk of burns through the hot air nozzle 2 Make sure you have enough finger clearance to the hot air nozzle Risk of injury due to heating of the material and the nozzle CRUSHING Bruises and crushing by the tape feed 3 Risk of injury by adjusting the nozzle and pulling in the material FEED WHEELS HOT AIR NOZZ...

Страница 12: ...er to the tape As a result the required amount of hot air could be reduced to a fraction Comparison tests revealed a possible ENERGY SAVING OF MORE THAN 90 compared to previous systems Typical field of application Outdoor Tent INTENDED USE Any use not approved by the manufacturer is considered improper Proper use also includes compliance with the prescribed operating adjustment maintenance and rep...

Страница 13: ...mm Tape width 5 25mm Max coil feel 0 30m min Max permissible temperature 600 C Operating pressure 6 bar Tape cutter Yes Clearance space 350x310mm Netto weight 5374 64kg 5474 Gross weight 5374 98kg 5474 Operating voltage AC 230V 50 60Hz Rated power 2000W Noise indication 80dB A Versions and subclasses can be found under www vetrontypical com 01 PREFACE 05 TECHNICAL DATA ...

Страница 14: ...machine if necessary 05 If possible cover the machine to avoid soiling TRANSPORT PACKAGING DISPOSAL STORAGE 01 Transport of the machine All machines are delivered packed The product must be checked for shipping damage after delivery For subsequent damage within the customer s operation the manufacturer assumes no liability Make sure that the products are transported safely and with the utmost care...

Страница 15: ...ESC 13 02 2021 Vetron 5374 HotAir Welding OPERATING FIELD HOTKEYS ELECTRONIC HANDWHEEL FEED BUTTON CONTROL DONGLE PEDAL 02 OPERATING ELEMENTS 01 OVERVIEW ...

Страница 16: ... AND BELOW THE DISPLAY 1 WELDING PROGRAM Button is for creating a welding program 2 FEED WHEEL BACKWARDS 3 IRONING Button is for creating a ironing program 4 PRE HEAT THE UPPER FEED WHEEL ON OFF 5 LIGHT not active 6 PARAMETERS 7 NEW PROGRAM 8 PROGRAM CHAIN 9 SAVE 10 CANCEL If a technology function is activated this is indicated by illuminating the corresponding LED In order to CHANGE OR SET VALUES...

Страница 17: ...LED lights up red All functions are locked 2 NOZZLE ON OFF When the LED is lit the function is active Nozzle can be switched on or off 3 FEED TAPE ON OFF When the LED is lit the function is active If triggered light illuminates The material can be transported forwards or backwards with the electronic handwheel 4 CUTTING By pushing the switch the tape can be manual cut ...

Страница 18: ...ckwise to travel backward without welding In the following the operating type is indicated by the following icons Pressing the handwheel Function can be customized via program parameters Turning the handwheel 2 FEED BUTTON The material can be manual transported by pulling the button Speed is dynamic 02 OPERATING ELEMENTS 04 ELECTRONIC HANDWHEEL FEED BUTTON ...

Страница 19: ...1 2 17 02 2021 Vetron 5374 HotAir Welding 1 MACHINE MAIN SWITCH ON OFF 2 USB PORT Identify yourself using the provided USB dongle 02 OPERATING ELEMENTS 05 CONTROL MAIN SWITCH ...

Страница 20: ... Vetron 5374 HotAir Welding 0 IDLE POSITION 1 WELDING Speed depending on programming Constant Dynamic speed via pressure on pedal 1 WELDING END Lift upper transport roller Tape is cut off 02 OPERATING ELEMENTS 06 PEDAL ...

Страница 21: ...h the feeding wheels ADVICE 01 Welding tape must be coordinated with the material Welding tempature airflow gap size and feeding speed have to be coordinated to have a optimal welding result 02 The material to be welded and the ambient temperature are decisive for all welding equipment settings For this reason optimum settings can be determined using weld tests only ...

Страница 22: ...n 019 Differential speed 0 020 Normal air 35l min 021 Welding heat 400 022 End speed 71 023 Tape length 2 43 2mm 024 Nozzle back after cutting 1 0sek 025 Lift delay 0sek 026 Wheel height by wheel lifting 16mm 027 Pre Heat 200 028 Pre Heat air 20l min 029 Stop to Nozzle Out 1 0sek 030 Post to heat 4 0sek 031 Stop gap 12mm NOTICE You may never change or overwrite the default program If you would lik...

Страница 23: ...dministrator has access to all functions and can assign access rights using the respective PC program The VETRON OPERATOR MANAGEMENT program is stored on the administrator dongle and functions as follows 01 Insert DONGLE 1 Administrator into the USB slot of the computer 02 Call up the VETRON OPERATOR MANAGEMENT program 03 Insert further DONGLE into the computer 04 Enter first name last name employ...

Страница 24: ... electrical cables have no damage 03 Have specialists verify whether the machine may be operated using the available grid supply voltage and whether it is correctly connected 04 All safety covers must be mounted 05 Be sure that the air pressure is min 6 bar 1 In the case of deviations the machine must NOT be started up 2 Connect the machine to a grounded power socket only ...

Страница 25: ... E A S T L W A I E P D L E A Machine is initializing The wheel travels into the starting situation 5 G N 0 M C A E 3 R M A P 0 R 1 0 P0 m T p e Machine is ready for operation P123 The program number used last is activated 30C Tempature is shown SWITCHING OFF 1 Before turning machine off welding process should be finished 2 P O W F R O F E Switch OFF the CONTROL by using the main switch 03 COMMISSI...

Страница 26: ...IPTION SELECT LANGUAGE 1 Press the PARAMETER button The corresponding LED on the display lights up 2 Turn the JOG KEY COUNTERCLOCKWISE until LANGUAGE SELECTION is shown 3 Confirm 4 L g n u a e g a n h gli E s In order to change the language The following can be selected English German French 5 Confirm ...

Страница 27: ...gram number After 5 seconds without input the display automatically returns to the previous program 3 Confirm 4 G N 0 M C A E 3 R M A P 0 R 1 0 P0 m T p e Machine is ready for operation Provided the welding temperatures of the programs are identical R M A I V E L E M O T A E R P D L E A Remove material and press the pedal Temperature is recalibrated CANCEL ADVICE During program change if ESC Butto...

Страница 28: ...memory full Delete unused programs E6 Power supply E7 EEPROM memory too small Sytem error Call Typical E8 Number of Parameters too high Reserved parameter space overflow Call Typical E9 Head PCB no response Cable PCB damaged Check cables call Typical E10 Auto gap processor error E11 Stepper error Step driver malfunction Restart check cables E12 E13 Position read error Stepper position read error E...

Страница 29: ...E18 Heater error E19 Parameter deafault load Some parameters loaded with full deafault value Click to continue E20 Foot motor Cable broken bad connection Stepdriver multifunction Restart Check cables E21 Pressure motor E22 Anvil motor E23 Sonotrode motor E24 Power supply overload E25 No response from Hot Air box Bus cable no power Check bus cable electronic power switch ...

Страница 30: ...28 02 2021 Vetron 5374 HotAir Welding 03 COMMISSIONING WELDING ...

Страница 31: ...ologies Welding Program Ironing 3 5 G P A 0 M 5 0 M In order to change value 4 Confirm 5 S E T D S E N E P 1 I 8 M M In order to change value 6 Confirm 7 A J i E S s P D c T U u M T 4 l 0 C 0 e In order to change value 8 Confirm 9 C E R A T G R P A O M E R P 0 0 2 In order to over write actual program In order to set new program Confirm when curser is on arrow 10 S O T E P A E G N R M Confirm 11 I...

Страница 32: ...NCEL ADVICE In order to go one step back during program creation press the ESC button ADVICE In order to completely cancel program creation press the NEW PROGRAM button Next to following confirmation prompt is shown Y Q S I E N A E U O T S O W V Confirm if you would like to exit the program without saving Otherwise select NO ...

Страница 33: ...og key S O T E P A E G N R M In order to enter the program name Mark confirm Input Cancel You can confirm the program name letter by letter by turning and then pressing the Jog key 1B You have created a NEW program or would like to overwrite an EXISTING program P 3 2 4 C E R T G R P A O E In order to change the program number P 5 3 6 O I E E W V T R R Confirm or Cancel Already existing programs ca...

Страница 34: ...n creating a NEW PROGRAM chapter 04 01 you can stepwise go backward using the ESC button in order to change previously entered values If you would like to completely exit the NEW PROGRAM function press the NEW PROGRAM button The details how to cancel are described at the end of the respective chapter 04 PROGRAMMING 03 CANCEL ...

Страница 35: ...AM PARAMETERS example P 2 2 W 4 1 3 3 1 5 P M O N R M R G A A E In order to change the parameter number G P A m m 5 0 0 0 4 0 Confirm G P A m m 5 0 0 0 4 0 In order to change the value TESTING TRIAL WELDING The values are set to online i e you can now immediately test whether the setting fits your application If this is not the case you can change the value and test again and finally Confirm G P A...

Страница 36: ... STEP DESCRIPTION PROGRAM CHANGE VIA PARAMETERS CANCEL ADVICE In order to completely cancel changing the program press the PARAMETERS button Next to following confirmation prompt is shown Y Q S I E N A E U O T S O W V Confirm if you would like to exit the program without saving Otherwise select NO ...

Страница 37: ...B I U A H N S In order to select the program to be copied Confirm DEFAULT SETTING The current program is shown If you would like to copy a different program turn the Jog key 4B Copy INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS from your USB dongle TO THE MACHINE U M B C E I S A H N M R G O R P A Confirm S C 1 1 O A N 1 S H N H M 1 O C E 1 E I To select the machine on which the program was created Confirm You can copy indi...

Страница 38: ...MS from the machine TO YOUR USB DONGLE A O L R P M L G A R S M E C B I U A H N S Confirm 4F Copy ALL PROGRAMS from your USB dongle TO THE MACHINE A O L R P M L G A R S U M B C E I S A H N Confirm S C 1 1 O A N 1 S H N H M 1 O C E 1 E I In order to select the machine on which the program was generated Confirm You can copy all programs from one of your machines DEFAULT SETTING The number of the curr...

Страница 39: ... C C I I N A H O G N F Confirm 4H Copy MACHINE PARAMETERS from the USB dongle to the machine U M B C E I S A H N M E C C I I N A H O G N F Confirm In order to select the machine whose parameters should be copied Confirm You can copy all parameters from one of your machines DEFAULT SETTING The number of the current machine If you would like to copy the parameters of a different machine select them ...

Страница 40: ... I W g l i e d n You want to update the COMPLETE firmware 6 Press the PARAMETER button P P M S O O I 1 R R G 0 5 R R M S G G N 1 A E P A M O A T 1 R C 0 5 R V A G N O 1 A E 1 5 Update 1 of 5 P V M O R I K 5 R F G 5 R E M O G I N A Y P V M C O R D D 5 R F 5 K R E A A G I O O O A I P P M S O O I R R G 0 R R M S G G N 1 A E P V M O R I K R F G R E M O G I N A Y 7 U P d e u e s t t s c o p l s r a a c...

Страница 41: ...m Turn the JOG KEY clockwise in order to find the parameter list 3 a f n u c k y e R t o 1 M40 E T P M Confirm The first machine parameter is shown The M in M401 indicates that this parameter is a machine parameter ADVICE You can find all calibrations applicable to the machine including resetting the operating program and the states of the digital and analog inputs and outputs under the machine pa...

Страница 42: ...L R E 016 C E S 2 1 017 Welding speed ED S E P 1 017 8m in m 019 Differential speed F ED E P S D F I 019 0 1 020 Normal air M IR A AL N R O 35 020 l in m 021 Maximum air temperature T M E P M X A A R I 020 4 0C 0 022 End speed D E S E P E D N 022 1 7 023 Tape length 2 E G H 2 T N E L T P A 023 43 mm 2 024 Nozzle back after cutting Z A K C T C U B LE N Z O 024 0 1 ec s 025 Lift delay I E T M T W I ...

Страница 43: ...ing speed 10 10 0 Differential gear of the upper wheel 10 40 35 l min Airflow for the welding process 100 600 400 C Welding temperature 0 100 71 Increased speed at the end after the tape cut 0 75 43 2 mm Tape length of P012 P013 for a clean seam end 0 10 1 0 sec Time for temperature reduction after cutting for the nozzle 0 2 5 0 sec Time after finisching the welding process until raising the upper...

Страница 44: ...meter l d a i m e W e h U p 5 M41 45 mm 0 20 200 45 0 mm 420 Feeder diameter d i m t r a e e D er F e e 0 M42 20 mm 0 5 50 20 0 mm 421 Tape wheel Z1 F e 1 e e Z d r 10 M 2 4 1 1 100 10 422 Tape wheel Z2 d 1 Z er F e e 2 M42 20 1 100 20 425 Wheel top position l p p s o u er R l o 5 M42 24 mm 0 1 24 5 mm 426 Wheel init position l e o f p s r er R l o 6 3 M42 0 5 mm 9 430 Gap Step p S e t G p a 0 M43...

Страница 45: ...ameter of the upper wheel Wheel diameter of the tape feed Differential speed of the tape feed possible Number of teeth of the gear from the tape drive Number of teeth of the gear from the tape drive Airflow hight of the upper wheel Please don t change Values are determined when the machine is started up The calibration transfers these into the basic parameters Wheel diameter Time how long temperat...

Страница 46: ...power r w a F c o t P S a t 3 M73 0 1 8 40 100 81 736 Knife position time t o d t m l i e h er c t u 6 1 M73 m 00 s 30 1000 100 ms 740 Pedal 2 Position a 2 p s o l P d e 0 11 M74 0 41 0 255 41 741 Pedal 1 Position a 1 p s o l P d e 1 11 M74 0 71 0 255 71 742 Pedal 0 Position a 0 p s o l P d e 2 11 M74 0 11 1 0 255 111 743 Pedal 1 Position a 1 p s o l P d e 2 11 M74 0 50 2 0 255 250 745 Lift delay ...

Страница 47: ... percent of the maximum power ATTENTION technicians parameters Time of the knife in front position pedal postion if needed adjustable Period of time after cutting until raising the wheel Limitation of the maximum welding speed transfer into the program parameters Current setting 1 lowered cold 1 power saving mode ON 0 fully energized warm 0 power saving mode OFF ...

Страница 48: ... F 0 C l e 2 M82 0 0 1 0 C F 823 Pedal flip flop i l p p F o l F P dal e 3 M82 0 0 1 0 825 Tape pre run l a o d e r P B nd a 5 M82 0 0 1 1 826 Knee button l a o d e r P B nd a 5 M82 0 0 1 0 903 Welding time i e m t g W lin e 3 M90 0 4H 1 h 905 Operating time t m i e g n W rki o 5 M90 7 8H 8 h 907 Foot cycles l s e c y c F ot o 7 M90 26 9 995 Software version e s o v r i n e r a S ftw o 5 M99 1 996...

Страница 49: ...pe flow from knife to nozzle 0 Off 1 On Pedal activ actuatede Uptime of the machine Output of the cylinder strokes the machine Status of the software version Status of the hardware version Serialnumber of the machine on off Administrator access to all parameters Operator access only to welding program selection 1 Reset height measuring system parameters 2 Reset factory settings reset all informati...

Страница 50: ...TERS accessible with access right level 2 only E P E E D S ND S T 5 20 0 8 Turn the Jog key counterclockwise in order to change the parameter number 3 B p n s a r t c h m r a M a e i c a e i e Confirm 4 Co d S l ar t t 9 0 99 M Confirm Cold Start In order to set the value to 1 or 2 1 Reset height measuring system parameters 2 Reset factory settings reset all informations and programs Confirm 5 Swi...

Страница 51: ...LEANING ATTENTION Switch the machine off and have it cool down Risk of burns in the case of contact with the nozzle Clean the wheels 2 and nozzle 1 as needed ADVICE Nozzle feed wheels and cutter must be cept clean Remove the adhesive residue e g with a knife Feed wheels e g clean with acetone ...

Страница 52: ...Fill the bolt by the thread hole with the provided grease 03 Then tighten screw 2 again LUBRICATION OF THE LOWER FEED WHEEL 3 04 Remove the screw 4 on the right side of the feed wheel bolt 05 Fill the bolt by the thread hole with the provided grease 06 Then screw the screw 4 back in and tighten ADVICE Carry out at least once a week Only suitable high performance grease use for example Interflon Gr...

Страница 53: ...allation of covers necessary for adjustments are not mentioned in the text Please observe the order of the following chapters which corresponds to a meaningful work sequen ce for a machine to be completely calibrated If you perform individual work steps only you must always also consider the previous and next chapter CAUTION Disconnect the machine from the electrical power grid prior to any adjust...

Страница 54: ...e from the electrical network before any adjustment work Risk of injury if the machine starts up unintentionally PRESSURE SETTING 01 Connect the machine to the compressed air system 02 The operating pressure at the filter control valve 1 is 6 bar 03 The pressure of the anvil wheel on pressure control valve 2 is factory set to 3 5 bar ...

Страница 55: ...STMENT 03 ADJUST THE ARM ADJUST THE ARM 01 Loosen the srews 1 at the top of the cover and take it off 02 Loosen the four screws 2 and screw 3 under the table 03 Now position the arm 4 axcial to the feed wheel 5 04 Tighten the screws 2 3 and attach the cover ...

Страница 56: ... 03 Now you can pull off the feed wheel 4 04 Proceed in reverse order to install the new feed wheel ATTENTION The pin of the gear wheel 3 has to be directly in the groove 5 of the wheel UPPER FEED WHEEL 05 Loosen the screw 6 and pull the feed wheel 7 of the bolt 06 Put the new feed wheel 7 on The pin has to be directly in the groove The wheel is no longer rotatable 07 At the end tighten the screw ...

Страница 57: ...Turn out the screws 4 and carefully substract the complete nozzle unit to the right 04 Substract the circlip 5 of the bolt 6 05 To remove the knife block you have to loosen the screws 7 06 To remove the guide 8 you have to turn out the screw 9 ASSEMBLY 07 Proceed in reverse order like 01 06 described 08 By turning the drive belt make sure that the guide 8 runs cleanly in the tape feed wheel 10 ...

Страница 58: ...air hose 3 03 Turn out the screw 4 and unplug the cable 5 ATTENTION To avoid damage at the nozzle please secure the screw with an open end wrench 04 Loosen the screw 7 and the nut 8 to substract the plate 6 Carefully substract the temperature sensor and ensure that the sensor may not fall down 05 At last loosen the screw 9 at the matching holder and carefully lift out the nozzle ...

Страница 59: ...ure At the lower third the nozzle must be parallel adjusted to the wheel 4 02 Now slide the temperature sensor 5 back into the nozzle Make sure that the sensor is through the eyelet 6 NOTICE The wire must protrude 3mm from the eyelet 03 Tighten the nut 7 04 Now tigthen the collar screw 8 and the nut 7 NOTICE Check that the nozzle position did not change 05 Now proceed in reverse order as described...

Страница 60: ... ADJUSTING THE DISTANCE FROM THE NOZZLE TO THE FEED WHEEL 01 Loosen the nut 1 02 Turning the locking screw 2 in one direction changes the distance To the right the distance becomes bigger to the left it ll be smaller 03 If you have set the necessary distance tighten the nut 1 ...

Страница 61: ...ION HEIGHT MEASURING SYSTEM 1 Remove the cover 1 at the head module 1A Remove the cover In addition you remove the magnet light and loosen the screw 2 below the head part 2 Loosen sensor bearers 3 3 Turn on the machine 4 Tighten the screws 2 slightly 5 Press the PARAMETER button 6 S e r i e v c S e r i e v c to reach to the SERVICE indicator ...

Страница 62: ...s the wheel is moving both DIODES 4 have to GLOW Otherwise you have to adjust see Step 6 At a space of ENC Encoder POSITION 0 mm bis 1 00 mm the GREEN DIODE shouldn t glow At 1 00 mm STOP TURNING the JOG KEY rightwards 9 press to INITIALIZE ENC position will be automatically initialized 10 S e r i e v c S e r i e v c press and the machine is ready for operation Mount the cover again NOTICE To avoi...

Страница 63: ...cal Europe Team 1 CUSTOMER Name Country Address Phone Zip code city Email 2 DEALER Name Country Address Phone Zip code City Email 3 MACHINE DATAS Product Type Control box type Serial number of machine Serial number of control box Year of manufacturing Software release 4 PROBLEM OR FEATURE REQUEST Detailed description Date of first error error count Date Signature In order to process the complaint ...

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Страница 66: ...VETRON TYPICAL EUROPE GmbH Clara Immerwahr Str 6 67661 Kaiserslautern Germany Tel 49 6301 320 75 0 Fax 49 6301 320 75 11 E mail info vetrontypical com www vetrontypical com ...

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