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input value = 8

V24 actual value = group error word from the Transvektor closed-loop control

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Error in the enable control for the Transvektor closed-loop control

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Error in the control block, DRIVE PARAMETER ML

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Error in the control block of the FLUX CHARACTERISTIC

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Error in the control block, VOLTAGE/FLUX CONTROL

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Error in the control block, MAGNETIZING CHARACTERISTIC

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Error in the control block, VOLTAGE MODEL

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Error in the control block, CURRENT MODEL

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Error in the control block, ORIENTATION SELECTION

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Error in the control block, PRE-CONTROL

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Error in the control block, CURRENT ACTUAL VALUE CONDITIONING

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Error in the control block, CURRENT CONTROL

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Error in the control block, VOLTAGE SETPOINT CONDITIONING

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Error in the control block, DIFFERENTIAL CURRENT CONTROLLER

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Error in the control block, FREQUENCY GENERATOR

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control word from the PROFIBUS interface at the drive
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ON/OFF1 1 (a log. 1 ON command)

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OFF2 (a log. 0 OFF2 command)

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OFF3 (a log. 0 OFF3 command)

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Inverter enable (a log. 1 inverter enable)

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Ramp-function generator enable (a log. 1 RFG enable)

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Ramp-function generator hold (a log. 0 RFG hold)

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Setpoint enable (a log. 1 SW enable)

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Acknowledge (a log. 1 acknowledge command; 1 sec pulse)

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Inching (a log. 1 inching command)

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Control from the automation system (a log. 1 control from the automation
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Not assigned

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Clockwise rotating field selection (a log. 1 CRF)

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Counter-clockwise rotating field selection (a log. 1 CCRF)

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Motorized potentiometer, raise (a log. 1 command, raise motorized
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Motorized potentiometer, lower (a log. 1 command lower motorized
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External fault (a log. 1 fault)

Содержание SIMOVERT MV Series

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Страница 2: ...ity model or design are reserved FOXVLRQ RI LDELOLW We have checked the contents of this Manual to ensure that they coincide with the described hardware and software However deviations cannot be completely ruled out so we cannot guarantee complete conformance However the information in this document is regularly checked and the necessary corrections included in subsequent editions We are thankful ...

Страница 3: ...connecting up the control terminal strip X100 18 2 3 2 Automation interface 24 6HOHFWHG IXQFWLRQV 3 1 Protective functions 25 3 1 1 Safety shutdown 25 3 1 2 Insulation monitoring 28 3 2 Open loop control functions 36 3 3 Actual value sensing 45 6WDUW XS 4 1 Recommended equipment for start up 48 4 2 Start up steps 49 4 2 1 Configuration word 49 4 2 2 Checking the protective functions 49 4 2 3 Safet...

Страница 4: ...ecking the actual values 62 4 3 4 Checking the angular offset 63 4 3 5 Checking the speed sensing operation with encoder 63 4 3 6 Checking the closed loop control settings ASM 64 4 3 7 Operation without speed encoder 66 4 3 8 Operating the drive converter under load 67 4 3 8 1 Adapting the torque limits 67 4 3 8 2 Adapting the ramp up and ramp down times 68 4 3 8 3 Setting the fast stop ramp 68 4 ...

Страница 5: ...ation in this Manual does not purport to cover all details or variations in equipment nor to provide for every possible contingency to be met in connection with installation operation or maintenance Should further information be desired or should particular problems arise which are not covered sufficiently for the purchaser s purposes please contact your local Siemens office Further the contents o...

Страница 6: ...re not taken DUQLQJ For the purpose of this Instruction Manual and product labels Warning indicates death severe personal injury or property damage can result if proper precautions are not taken DXWLRQ For the purpose of this Instruction Manual and product labels Caution indicates that minor personal injury or material damage can result if proper precautions are not taken 1RWH For the purpose of t...

Страница 7: ...h as plastic foil insulating table tops or clothing made of synthetic fibers Modules may only be placed on electrically conducting surfaces Modules and electronic components should always be packed in electrically conducting containers such as metallized plastic boxes or metal canisters before being stored or shipped If packing containers are used which are not conductive modules and boards must f...

Страница 8: ...prevention regulations In the sense of basic safety information qualified specialist personnel are those personnel who have the training knowhow and qualifications to install mount commission and operate the equipment RUUHFW XVH Drive converters are components which are designed for installation in electrical systems or machines When installing mounting in machines it is not permissible to commiss...

Страница 9: ...nt regulations e g cable cross sections fuses protective conductor connection Information extending beyond this is included in the documentation Information for EMC correct installation such as screening grounding arrangement of filters and routing cables are provided in the documentation of the drive converter This information must always be observed also for drive converters with the CE Mark It ...

Страница 10: ...fork lift trucks When unpacked it can be transported using the transport rails mounted on the drive converter It must be ensured that the load is distributed evenly Significant vibrations during transport and hard jolts for example when setting down should be avoided 7UDQVSRUW GDPDJH Carefully investigate the equipment before you accept the shipment from the transport company Compare every item wh...

Страница 11: ...sport company liable in writing 2 The following damage must be reported to the police Damage due to theft Damage due to fire Damage due to accidents 3 Notification times for damage which wasn t immediately identified the packaging must be opened to identify any possible damage Shipping companies 6 days Rail or freight companies 7 days For damage which is identified later a damage report must be se...

Страница 12: ...r drawn in must be free of aggressive gases If these specified conditions cannot be fulfilled then the air drawn into the installation room must be cleaned using filters or for dust laden air by using filter elements in front of the air mesh of the cabinet doors The ambient drive converter conditions in the equipment rooms may not exceed the values specified in Class 3K3 acc to IEC 721 3 3 The equ...

Страница 13: ...ation in the plant or system the noise in the environment may not be neglected Thus special requirements are placed on the design and EMC of the system or plant 2SHUDWLRQDO VDIHW DQG QRLVH LPPXQLW In order to achieve the highest possible operational safety and noise immunity of a complete system or plant drive converter automation system drive motor etc the drive converter manufacturer and user mu...

Страница 14: ...cted using signal cables must also be connected using potential bonding conductors exception components with fiber optic cable connections e g Automation Gating section Drive converter A Gating section Drive converter B 3RWHQWLDO ERQGLQJ UDLO DQG VFUHHQ UDLO Each drive converter cabinet has a potential bonding and grounding rail to make it easier to connect the potential bonding conductors All int...

Страница 15: ... have a cable screen The cable screen should be braided as cables with a foil type screens have a screening effect which is poorer by a factor of 5 The cable screens should always be grounded at both ends Single sided connections are only advantageous under exceptional circumstances For incoming screened cables analog and digital signals the screen must be clamped to the screen rail where the cabl...

Страница 16: ...e of 20 cm must be maintained between signal cables and power cables below 500 V AC a clearance of 30 cm must be maintained to power cables at over 1 kV AC Crossovers with power cables should if possible be made at an angle of 90 1RWH If the grounding situation is not completely known it probably makes sense to connect a potential bonding conductor in parallel with each power cable Recommended cro...

Страница 17: ...t be taken when working on the equipment in an open condition as external supply voltages may be present The power terminals and control terminals could be live under voltage even when the motor is stationary Perfect and safe operation of this equipment assumes that it has been professionally transported stored installed and mounted as well as careful operator control and maintenance Death severe ...

Страница 18: ...pulse encoders which are supplied from an external power supply then these external power supplies must also be shut down when the internal drive converter power supplies are shut down or if they fail 1RWH The circuit diagrams supplied with the equipment are binding for connecting up the power control and signal cables 2 3 1 Possibilities of connecting up the control terminal strip X100 Cable cros...

Страница 19: ...l equipment plant system side RQQHFWLQJ WKH FLUFXLW EUHDNHU VLJQDOV The commands to the circuit breaker and the appropriate checkback signal are connected to terminal strip X100 1RWH It is absolutely necessary that the circuit breaker is controlled via the drive converter The circuit breaker CLOSE circuit breaker OPEN circuit breaker undervoltage trip commands must directly control the circuit bre...

Страница 20: ... an external 24 V supply has been connected to X100 46A ground and X100 46C 24 V X100 46B ground and X100 46D 24 V can be used to connect up the digital outputs External equipment Internal equipment Plant system side external M24V external P24V 46A X100 46B 46C X100 46D internal M24V internal P24V M24V P24V G130 SITOP internal M24V internal P24V 27A X100 27B 27C X100 27D Connecting up the digital ...

Страница 21: ... functions also refer to Section 4 2 LQDU LQSXWV External equipment Internal equipment Plant system side A120 SB61 24 V input voltage 1 signal DC 13 to 30 V 0 signal DC 3 to 6 V or open circuit Input current 1 signal 6 mA A121 SB61 24 V input voltage 1 signal DC 13 to 30 V 0 signal DC 3 to 6 V or open cct Input current 1 signal 6 mA A122 SB61 24 V input voltage 1 signal 13 to 30 V DC 0 signal 3 to...

Страница 22: ...l setpoint 2 Suppl setpoint 1 Suppl setpoint 1 Main setpoint Main setpoint 68A X100 68B 68C X100 68D 69A X100 69B 70C X100 70D 70A X100 70B 69C X100 69D 0 10V optional 4 20mA 0 10V optional 4 20mA 0 10V optional 4 20mA 0 10V optional 4 20mA 0 10V optional 4 20mA 0 10V optional 4 20mA Option 4 20mA 0 10V 0 10V 0 10V 4 20mA 4 20mA Suppl setpoint 3 Suppl setpoint 3 67A X100 67B 67C X100 67D 0 10V opt...

Страница 23: ... X100 55D 56A X100 56B 57C X100 57D 57A X100 57B 56C X100 56D 58C X100 58D 58A X100 58B Track 1 neg Track 1 Track 2 neg Track N neg Track 2 Track N M24V P24V A131 SU10 interface module 1 1 to A200 D05 IT41 SU10 Voltage range 60 V Current range max 0 5 A IT41 Input voltage range Differential voltage 30 V to 30 V 0 signal 30 V to 4 V 1 signal 8 V to 30 V Max pulse frequency 1 MHz Phase difference of...

Страница 24: ...C L2 DP S01 S07 CS7 X03 Automation unit SINEC L2 DP bus cable Connector SM5 SIMADYN D subrack SIMOVERT MV Order No 6DD1680 0AF0 Fig 2 1 Connecting the automation unit to the CS7 board 3HUPLVVLEOH FDEOH OHQJWKV Maximum permissible cable lengths for the SINEC L2 DP bus cable Order No 6VX1830 0AH10 6VX1830 0BH10 6VX1830 3AH10 6VX1830 3BH10 6VX1830 3CH10 DXG UDWH DEOH OHQJWK 9 6 to 187 5 kbaud max 100...

Страница 25: ...XWWRQ The SIMOVERT MV drive converter is equipped with a mushroom head pushbutton in the door If the circuit is opened using this pushbutton the relay K12 drops out refer to Fig 3 1 6DIHW VKXWGRZQ IURP WKH 68 PRGXOH The sub station is monitored using a relay contact of the SUL module This relay is closed if the following conditions are fulfilled 1 Communications between the ISL and SUL modules is ...

Страница 26: ... falling edge and opens This command circuit is wire breakage proof For SIMOVERT drive converters the circuit breaker must be equipped with an undervoltage release in order to ensure that the circuit breaker OPEN command is wire breakage proof LPLW VZLWFK The doors of the power section are monitored using limit switches If this circuit is interrupted a circuit breaker OPEN command is output via th...

Страница 27: ...afety circuit A141 X2 81 A141 X2 82 Circuit breaker OPEN command using on off control K12 Circuit breaker OPEN from the operating current release Circuit breaker OPEN from the undervoltage release X100 A13 X100 C13 X100 A11 X100 C11 Generates the safety circuit tripped signal Safety circuit Circuit breaker OPEN command G120 P24V S10 X100 A16 X100 A17 M Converter cabinet doors S1 to S4 S0 1 S0 2 Ov...

Страница 28: ...Q The values for Alarm1 2 in the setup must be set appropriately high due to the series resistance R190 and grounding resistor R15 The following setting values are recommended For Alarm1 900 kΩ Alarm2 Under certain circumstances the values must be adapted to the requirements of the network to be monitored For example for a 0 Ω ground fault at the C rail an insulation resistance is displayed which ...

Страница 29: ...CD display and are saved in a non volatile memory EEPROM after the setting has been completed A microcontroller based pulse shaped alternating measuring voltage is superimposed on the line supply The measuring pulse comprises positive and negative pulses of the same amplitude The period depends on the particular discharge capacitances and the insulation resistances of the line supply to be monitor...

Страница 30: ... Integrated TEST RESET button Pressed briefly 1 s reset Pressed longer 2 s test 4 5 6 Operator buttons 7 Integrated LCD for the measured value display and displaying the selected parameters 8 External test button not used 9 External delete button not used 10 External kΩ display instrument analog not used connection possible 11 Output relay K1 with a changeover contact RALARM1 12 Output relay K2 wi...

Страница 31: ...m is selected or a parameter change is saved using button 7 You can jump back to the previous menu using button 9 only in the set up menu For all of the setting procedures the insulation monitoring is interrupted for the time it takes to make the settings If the setting procedure is interrupted without a correct return into the measuring routine the device automatically switches back into the meas...

Страница 32: ...etter flashes and can also be changed The password entry is completed using button 7 If an incorrect password was entered the A ISOMETER jumps back to the measured value display 5HVSRQVH YDOXHV 5 50 50 N 50 N The alarm values 1 and 2 are each set using buttons 6 8 and are stored by pressing button 7 0RGH RI RSHUDWLRQ 7HUP The hyphen between the contact names indicates which contact is closed in th...

Страница 33: ... IXQFWLRQV Siemens AG 6SE8004 0BH76 SIMOVERT MV Commissioning Instructions 33 6HWWLQJ WKH H WHQGHG IXQFWLRQV 6HWXS No settings may be made in SETUP3 In this case it involves factory settings for the measuring technique ...

Страница 34: ...t possible as otherwise no signal will be output The following combinations are possible ALARM 1 ALARM2 AC OR DC AC OR DC AC OR DC ONLY DC AC OR DC ONLY AC AC OR DC SYST ONLY AC AC OR DC ONLY AC ONLY DC ONLY DC AC OR DC ONLY DC ONLY AC ONLY DC ONLY DC ONLY DC ONLY DC SYST AC OR DC RXSOLQJ GHYLFH VHWWLQJV 7 50 1 The IRDH265 and IRDH365 is connected to terminal AK at terminal 5 of AGH520S The operat...

Страница 35: ...lay only acts on the alarm stages with this measuring technique and is added to the response time 6HWWLQJ WKH UHVSRQVH GHOD 7 0 W V If the response delay is active the appropriate time can be set here 6HWWLQJ WKH OLQH VXSSO GLVFKDUJH FDSDFLWDQFH 0 The A ISOMETER can be adapted to the max line supply discharge capacitance in this menu max 500 µF Please note that for the setting CE 500 µF the basic ...

Страница 36: ...ic The drive converter responds exclusively to these internal control words The drive converter response to the control commands essentially corresponds to the PROFIDRIVE profile RPPDQG QWHUQDO FRQWURO ZRUG RFDO 7HUPLQDO VWULS 6HULDO LQWHUIDFH 352 86 3 Position Active with Operator unit Position Active with Position Active with ON Word 1 bit 0 H ON button X100 33A C H 1 STW 1 bit 0 H OFF1 Word 1 b...

Страница 37: ...STW 2 bit 14 H External fault Word 1 bit 15 H X100 31A C L STW 1 bit 15 H External alarm Word 2 bit 9 H X100 32A C L STW 2 bit 9 H Safety shutdown Word 2 bit 11 H Mushroom head push button X100 16A 17A Not jumpered STW 2 bit 11 H Checkback signal trans former ready Word 2 bit 0 H STW 2 bit 0 H Checkback signal trans former alarm Word 2 bit 1 H STW 2 bit 1 H Checkback signal trans former fault Word...

Страница 38: ...t 10 H X100 15A C H 5 STW 2 bit 10 H The function can be selected using the parameterizable inputs Inputs X100 41 44 for air cooled drive converters Inputs X100 41 42 for water cooled drive converters 1 H continuous signal or H pulse 2 H pulse 3 These inputs are only used for water cooled drive converters For air cooled drive converters they can be parameterized 4 Factory setting for an L signal l...

Страница 39: ...N INHIBIT status LW QYHUWHU HQDEOH After the inverter enable command H signal has been accepted if the READY status is available and the de energization time P704 has expired since the last shutdown the system changes into the OPERATION status the inverter pulses are enabled and the setpoint is approached along the ramp function generator ramp The INVERTER INHIBIT command inverter inhibit is execu...

Страница 40: ...age undefined direction of rotation alarm message is output LW RXQWHU FORFNZLVH URWDWLQJ ILHOG VHOHFWLRQ After the command for counter clockwise rotating field has been accepted the setpoint is influenced depending on the assignment of the clockwise rotating field command Refer to the Function diagram setpoint channel The counter clockwise clockwise changeover is enabled in parameter P330 The sele...

Страница 41: ...VLJQDO WUDQVIRUPHU DODUP LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO WUDQVIRUPHU IDXOW LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO PRWRU UHDG LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO PRWRU DODUP LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO PRWRU IDXOW LW UHH LW VLJQDO FRROLQJ XQLW DODUP RQO IRU ZDWHU FRROLQJ LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO FRROLQJ XQLW IDXOW RQO IRU ZDWHU FRROLQJ LW WHUQDO DODUP LW KHFNEDFN VLJQDO FLUFXLW EUHDNHU 23 1 LW RPPDQG VDIHW VKXWGRZQ LW 6HOHFWLRQ IL HG VHWSRLQW ELW One of 4 possib...

Страница 42: ... H X100 48A C H ZSW bit 0 H Ready Bit 2 H X100 49A C H ZSW bit 1 H Operation Bit 0 H White lamp X100 50A C H ZSW bit 2 H Fault Bit 5 H Red lamp X100 51A C L ZSW bit 3 H Off Bit 1 H Green lamp OFF 2 present ZSW bit 4 L OFF 3 present ZSW bit 5 L Power on inhibit Bit 4 H ZSW bit 6 H Alarm available Yellow lamp X100 52A C ZSW bit 7 H Setpoint actual value deviation X100 53A C ZSW bit 8 L PZD control r...

Страница 43: ...via the control word bit 1 LW 2 PHVVDJH Indicates that an OFF3 command is available and or operating status OFF3 is available via the control word bit 2 LW 3RZHU RQ LQKLELW PHVVDJH This indicates that the system is in the POWER ON INHIBIT operating status The power supply the open loop and closed loop control are operational The signal is continuously available as long as there is an OFF2 command ...

Страница 44: ... Indicates that the reserve mode has been selected by the local key operated switch LW 1RW DVVLJQHG LW 1RW DVVLJQHG LW 1RW DVVLJQHG LW 1RW DVVLJQHG 5HVSRQVH WR IDXOWV The response to faults can be parameterized by selecting the fault class for each fault DXOW FODVV The unit is immediately shut down the inverter pulses are inhibited the circuit breaker is opened the system goes into the FAULT statu...

Страница 45: ...currents and voltages They measure the output currents iR and iT and the output voltages URS and UTS The voltage sensing AVT3 refer to the description Section Voltage sensing AVT3 is bolted onto busbar M It measures the positive C and the negative D DC link voltage All of the measured values are converted into serial optical signals and transferred to the IAL module for evaluation via fiber optic ...

Страница 46: ...installation and mounting must be in accordance with the national electrical regulations in Germany this is VBG4 and the relevant local regulations The drive converter cabinet must be correctly grounded to ensure that no freely accessible part of the equipment is at a line supply potential or any other hazardous potential The user is responsible in ensuring that the motor drive converter transform...

Страница 47: ...RQGLWLRQ Understand how the drive converter is connected into the power on and power off circuits Please observe all of the information in this section and on the product itself If this information is not observed death severe bodily injury and significant material damage could result DXWLRQ The electronic modules contact devices which can be destroyed by electrostatic discharge These components c...

Страница 48: ...scilloscope with plotter min 20 MHz 1 Clip on ammeter with analog output for the oscilloscope we recommend the HEME 1000 1 Rotating field measuring unit 1 Conductivity measuring unit to check the water before the cooling unit is filled only for water cooled drive converters 1 Notebook 1 Connecting cable from the notebook to the CS7 X1 service interface 1 Calibrator 0 20 mA 0 10 V 1 Software SIMADY...

Страница 49: ...ts and outputs of the SUL module are assigned as follows for the drive converter LQDU LQSXW BE 1 H5 fan Q150 Q151 Q152 Q153 differential pressure monitoring B80 and internal cabinet temperature monitoring A880 BE 2 H6 m c b s of the power supplies F120 F130 F160 and SIMADYN D power supply monitoring BE 3 H7 SIMADYN D power supply fans A200 G1 BE 4 H8 Safety circuit safety shutdown S10 door limit s...

Страница 50: ...nd also moving or rotating parts as well as hot surfaces corresponding to their degree of protection Severe personal injury or material damage can occur if the required covers are inadmissibly removed if the equipment is incorrectly used or is incorrectly installed and handled Additional information is provided in the documentation 2QO TXDOLILHG VSHFLDOLVW SHUVRQQHO may be employed to transport in...

Страница 51: ...F via terminal strip function X100 33A 33C ON X100 34A 34C OFF1 X100 35A 35C OFF2 The ON OFF1 pushbutton in the door is only effective if the key actuated switch in the door is in the Local setting refer to Section 4 2 7 If the key actuated switch is in the Remote setting then terminal strip X100 must be selected as source for the ON OFF1 command factory setting The assignment of the source for th...

Страница 52: ...ted 4 4 2 7 Changeover remote local control SIMOVERT MV is equipped with a key actuated switch which is used to toggle between remote and local control pushbutton in the door OP2 operator panel The status of the key actuated switch is interrogated in the software In the standard condition the key actuated switch is in the Remote setting the Basic settings for the control signal and setpoint source...

Страница 53: ...o the circuit breaker The signals are connected at terminal strip X100 X100 A15 15C checkback signal circuit breaker OPEN X100 A14 14C checkback signal leading contact circuit breaker OPEN RQQHFWRU SDUDPHWHU HVLJQDWLRQ DFWRU VHWWLQJ 6WDUW XS VHWWLQJ A80 I P268 Select negation checkback signal circuit breaker OPEN 0 B15 I P269 Select checkback signal circuit breaker SW 0 HW 1 0 B30 X P274 Circuit b...

Страница 54: ...s pre charged after the auxiliaries have been switched in and the appropriate checkback signals have been received The auxiliaries are started after the ON command for water cooled drive converters the cooling unit for air cooled drive converters the fans The checkback signal of the external auxiliaries must be connected at terminal strip X100 45A 45C only for water cooling To test the pre chargin...

Страница 55: ...WRS function package at block B60 X Three different operating modes can be selected 1 B60 X 2 Standard operation Transvektor control active 2 B60 X 4 SWG without excitation service 3 B60 X 5 SWG with excitation service The SWG operating mode without excitation is selected by entering a 4 at block B60 X As the first test is made without DC link voltage i e the power on cascade with its checkback si...

Страница 56: ...cy setpoint XFS refers to the value FME entered at SWG as well as at the MSZ block Both connectors should have the same values UHTXHQF SURSRUWLRQDO RSHUDWLRQ 0 SWG IFM 1 The frequency setpoint at connector XFS corresponds to the frequency of the voltage vector at output connector SWG FU The absolute value of the voltage vector at output connector SWG BU is changed proportional to this It is not po...

Страница 57: ...ed under a fault condition to test the gating circuits and the IGBTs In this case an operating mode must be selected This selection is made in function package WRS at block B60 X For simulation purposes the inverter can be operated in three different modes via block SWG in function package TRV 1 B60 X 2 Standard operation Transvektor control active 2 B60 X 4 SWG without excitation service 3 B60 X ...

Страница 58: ...late data of the SIMOVERT MV 5 Speed encoder data 0RWRU UDWLQJ SODWH GDWD Rating plate data H DPSOH PN 2600 kW UN 3300 V IN 553 A I0 176 A cosϕN 0 85 fN 50 Hz nN 995 RPM The following values are determined from the motor rating plate data and are entered at the DP block in function package TRV 6 kV 6 6 kV P604 DP RCM 5 0 IN 2 61 IN 2 87 P603 DP RVM 590 UN 2 61 UN 2 87 P605 DP CFN cos ϕN 1 Nominal ...

Страница 59: ...XUD Non saturated XH for s 1 8 Magnetizing reactance non saturated in the d axis p u 4 407 p u P615 DP XUQ Non saturated XH for s 1 48 Magnetizing reactance non saturated in the q axis p u 4 407 p u P616 DP XHD I0 IN Magnetizing reactance saturated in the d axis p u 0 3183 P617 DP XHQ I0 IN 4 Magnetizing reactance saturated in the q axis p u 0 3183 P618 DP R2D R2 for s 0 5 Rotor resistance in the ...

Страница 60: ...u2 8 Coefficient of the magnetizing characteristic for the per unit induced voltage P744 IMU S2 i2 6 Coefficient of the magnetizing characteristic for the per unit magnetizing current P742 IMU U3 u3 8 Coefficient of the magnetizing characteristic for the per unit induced voltage P745 IMU S3 i3 6 Coefficient of the magnetizing characteristic for the per unit magnetizing current If there is no motor...

Страница 61: ...2 0 0336 6SE8018 1EA00 0 0088 0 0277 6SE8020 1EA00 0 0088 0 0277 DOFXODWLQJ WKH LQGXFWLYH UHVLVWDQFH ZLWK PRWRU IUHTXHQF I1 DQG WKH UHIHUHQFH UHDFWDQFH XF 2 fN LF VN ZB for VN 6 kV 3 IN 6 81 VN ZB for VN 6 6 kV 3 IN 8 23 DOFXODWLQJ WKH SHU XQLW LQGXFWLYH UHVLVWDQFH XF RF xf rf ZB ZB DEOH UHDFWDQFH DQG FDEOH UHVLVWDQFH The stray reactance LL and the resistances RL should be derived from the cable l...

Страница 62: ...nt setpoint e g 30 at SWG30 X 8 Enter the frequency setpoint e g 10 at SWG50 X Re establish the original settings undo the changes after you have completed this operation inverse sequence 4 3 3 Checking the actual values In order to be able to check the actual values the closed loop control must be changed over into setpoint generator operation refer to Section 4 3 2 The current actual values IA a...

Страница 63: ...ge vector angle must lead the current vector angle by 90 when the motor is in a no load condition 4 3 5 Checking the speed sensing operation with encoder In order to check the speed sensing the closed loop control must be changed over into the setpoint encoder mode refer to Section 4 3 2 Values can be output from the FP TRV In this case a frequency setpoint e g 2 Hz must be entered In order to che...

Страница 64: ...trol the model flux controller KPW1 YB IWV absolute value of the corrected current voltage actual WFA FLS Rotor rotating frequency 3UHUHTXLVLWHV Transvektor control set B60 X P432 in FP WRS to 2 The motor is de coupled The drive converter is powered down The following connectors are included in the FP TRV The sequence must be maintained 1 In order to optimize the pre control de activate the quadra...

Страница 65: ...ncy setpoints The two values should also be close to 0 Further check the flux setpoint flux actual values and the motor voltage 11 Power down the drive converter iS i2 LDR i2 LDR di2 dt XS i1 RS i2 ω psi XS i2 RS i1 i1 psi 2 1 q torque generating axis d Flux generating axis LDR i1 LDR di1 dt XUUHQW DQG YROWDJH FRPSRQHQWV U1S d axis RS ERD i1 XS EXQ i2 LDQ ELD di1 U2S q axis RS ERQ i2 XS EXD i1 LDQ...

Страница 66: ...rive can follow the ramp without any following error At the transition from the open loop controlled into the closed loop controlled operating range the speed controller shouldn t generate any steps The voltage model flux should not manifest any amplitude changes 10 during setting process The frequency actual value must be smoothed 3DUDPHWHUL DWLRQ 1RWH Encoderless operation is pre fed in the fact...

Страница 67: ... converter under load 4 3 8 1 Adapting the torque limits The source for the motor limit when motoring is selected using F78 X1 P366 in the FP SWK via F78 X1 P366 or F78 X2 P367 6LJQLILFDQFH RI DQG 1 Technological setpoint 2 2 Technological setpoint 3 3 Operator panel 9 Fixed 50 F72 X1 P364 factory setting 10 Dependent on the speed can be set via polygon characteristic F76 11 Analog setpoint 1 12 A...

Страница 68: ...nimum speed setting frequency is realized via the operator control panel ORFNZLVH GLUHFWLRQ RI URWDWLRQ Values between 0 and C60 LL P340 RXQWHU FORFNZLVH URWDWLQJ ILHOG Values between 0 and C70 LL P341 4 3 8 5 Speed controller setting The speed controller is adapted according to the load conditions The setpoint source for the gain is set using N300 X1 P396 or N300 X2 P397 in the FP NRV1 depending ...

Страница 69: ...tion using UMOD EXS P770 KHFNLQJ WKH PRWRU YROWDJH 3 The value should increase from approx 97 under no load conditions to approx 100 at rated speed and rated torque 4 4 Overview of the software The drive is parameterized using the start up program of the SIMADYN Tele master It is connected at the interface of module CS7 connector X01 The parameters are summarized in the parameter list The STRUC G ...

Страница 70: ... 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 STW1 from L2DP STW1 from OP2 STW1 from X100 STW1 from the door control elements 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Q Basic standby changeover 1 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ON OFF1 command to EAL STW1 to EAL Control word generation in FP IO EAL1 log 0 log 0 log 0 log 0 P134 P135 Select the source for the ON OFF1 command Control words of the sources are presently not fully assi...

Страница 71: ...Bit 14 Bit 15 ON OFF 1 OFF 2 OFF 3 fast stop Inverter enable RFG enable RFG hold Setpoint enable Acknowledge Inching for inverter enable Free PZD control Command clockwise rotating field Command counter clockwise rotating field Command raise motorized potentiometer Command lower motorized potentiometer Command external fault For closed loop speed control a setpoint of 100 corresponds to the rated ...

Страница 72: ...1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Siemens AG SIMOVERT MV Sheet Communications interface 6 5 4 3 2 n_act Umotor_act Imotor_act Pactive_act M_act cos Phi_act Uexc_act Iexc_act Not assigned Ud_act ZSW 01001 send Selection Smoothing Adaptation 2 P213 P210 P207 P204 P201 Fig 4 3 Automation interface Sheet 2 ...

Страница 73: ...2 Bit 5 H No OFF 3 Bit 6 H Power on inhibit Bit 7 H Alarm Bit 8 H No setpoint actual value deviation Bit 9 H PZD control requested Bit 10 H Comparison speed reached Bit 11 H Standby changeover is active Bit 12 Free Bit 13 Free Bit 14 Free Bit 15 Free PZD 3 6 The process status data can be assigned to the following actual value n_act 100 rated motor speed Umotor act 100 rated motor voltage Imotor a...

Страница 74: ...motor Monitoring auxiliaries Fault and alarm messages from the FP EAL1 The power on and power off sequences are described in more detail in Section 5 3 4 4 5 FP ULS 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Parameterization of the circuit breaker Monitoring and interlocking functions of the circuit breaker Fault messages from the FP ULS 4 4 6 FP SWK 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Parameterization of the maxi...

Страница 75: ...62 P421 P422 P423 P424 14 15 16 Offset Gain Smoothing Offset Gain Smoothing Offset Gain Smoothing Fixed setpoint 1 Fixed setpoint 2 Fixed setpoint 3 Fixed setpoint 4 13 Setpoint channel P335 P336 Basic Standby P331 P332 Basic Standby P333 P334 Basic Standby Main setpoint Supplementary setpoint 1 in front of the RFG Supplementary setpoint 2 after the RFG P329 Save mode 9 1 A D A D 2 3 4 Analog inpu...

Страница 76: ... Fixed value P365 1 3 K6 7 2 K5 6 8 13 17 18 Fixed value P364 P366 P367 Basic Standby P368 P369 Basic Standby Torque limit Torque limit 2 X1 X2 Pwg_max f_act Divider 1 3 K6 7 2 K5 6 8 9 Pkt 1 2 3 4 5 6 X P301 P303 P305 P307 P309 P311 Y P302 P304 P306 P308 P310 P312 Pkt Y 1 2 3 4 5 6 P314 P316 P318 P320 P322 P324 X P313 P315 P317 P319 P321 P323 Fig 4 6 Setpoint channel Sheet 2 ...

Страница 77: ... MV Sheet Setpoint channel P363 13 Supplementary torque setpoint Fixed value P489 1 3 K5 2 K4 6 Fixed value P372 Torque setpoint 19 10 7 26 n M closed loop control n_max clockwise n_max counter clockwise 0 2 P340 P341 3 1 3 2 K4 K5 7 6 8 K6 P370 P371 Basic Standby P360 P361 Basic Standby Fig 4 7 Setpoint channel Sheet 3 ...

Страница 78: ... 1 Command select counter clockwise phase rotation Command select clockwise phase rotation 14 Main setpoint 15 Summation point 1 BE9 BE10 BE11 BE12 ENABLED INHIBITED FP IO Control word Profibus P170 P171 Basic Standby Inching command BE9 BE10 BE11 BE12 ENABLED INHIBITED FP IO Control word Profibus P150 P151 Basic Standby BE9 BE10 BE11 BE12 ENABLED INHIBITED FP IO Control word Profibus P152 P153 Ba...

Страница 79: ... Max speed CCW direction of rotaiton Min speed CCW direction of rotation Min speed CW direction of rotation P342 Enable suppression 1 21 P343 P344 P345 Suppression bandwidth 1 Suppression speed 1 Suppression hysteresis 1 P346 P347 P348 Suppresion bandwidth 2 Suppression speed 2 Suppression hysteresis 2 P349 Enable suppression 2 5 P341 P339 P340 P338 Fig 4 9 Setpoint channel Sheet 5 ...

Страница 80: ...y 21 0 Setpoint enable 1 0 Ramp function generator Ramp up time 1 P354 Ramp up time on the fly Ramp down time 1 P353 P355 P356 P357 Command RFG hold Command RFG enable 25 dt dn 22 n 15 QE QU QL Profibus enabled Terminal strip Stop FP IO P144 P145 Basic Standby Profibus Enabled Terminal strip Enabled FP IO P146 P147 Basic Standby via OP2 via OP2 Ramp down time 2 fast stop Ramp down time on the fly ...

Страница 81: ... 3 4 5 6 7 8 Siemens AG SIMOVERT MV Sheet Setpoint channel P358 25 Nominal starting time P359 Smoothing time 23 22 16 24 n from RFG n supplementary 2 P340 P341 n closed loop speed control Beschleunigungsvorsteuerung für Drehzahlregler 7 Summation point 2 Fig 4 11 Setpoint channel Sheet 7 ...

Страница 82: ...act Limit 0 1 P400 0 1 n_act positive 1 2 3 4 Speed actual value from the Transvektor control SWK Sheet 3 5 19 Supplementary torque setpoint Command closed loop speed torque control 0 n cl loop contr 1 M cl loop contr 6 Enable pre control NRV 1 Pre control for the speed controller Speed actual value SWK Sheet 6 23 0 Acceleration pre control P391 0 M 0 1 Hy P405 P406 Fixed cl loop sp contr BE9 BE10...

Страница 83: ...OVERT MV Sheet 17 1 18 Mmax Mmax 10 M closed loop torque control 7 8 Torque limit Torque limit 6 Changeover closed loop speed torque control P394 5 24 9 Speed setpoint Speed setpoint SWK Sheet 3 SWK Sheet 2 SWK Sheet 2 SWK Sheet 7 Speed control NRV 2 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 M 1 5 Hy 0 5 P393 Fig 4 13 Speed control Sheet 2 ...

Страница 84: ...act n 9 26 SWK Sheet 3 6 Speed torque changeover 8 7 5 dn dt RFG M supplementary Closed loop speed control NRV 3 HI 4 n_act limit value n_contr frg 10 1 Integrator hold Speed controller enable Speed controller enable 0 closed loop speed control 1 closed loop torque control Mmax Mmax Speed controller P399 0 0 0 0 11 n cl loop torque contr n cl loop speed contr P395 Analog3 PZD5 PZD6 from TRV Fig 4 ...

Страница 85: ... 6 7 8 Siemens AG SIMOVERT MV Sheet 0 1 t 10 P408 11 6 Speed controller enable Speed torque changeover P409 Select fault without alarm 0 alarm 1 fault Fault setpoint actual value deviation Alarm setpoint actual value deviation Closed loop speed control NRV 4 P407 Fig 4 15 Speed control Sheet 4 ...

Страница 86: ...ons of the OP Actual value displays of the OP 4 4 10 FP TRC 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Trace functions 4 4 11 FP TRV 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Actual value sensing Normalization of the actual values Overcurrent monitoring DC link monitoring Initialization of the SUL Communications to the SUL Sub station monitoring Speed actual value sensing Parameterization motor data Parameterization Tra...

Страница 87: ...nalog input and output signals An offset proportional gain and smoothing time constant can be selected for each analog signal 4 4 14 FP SEND1 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Initialization of the couplings USS and monitor send 4 4 15 FP SEND2 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Initialization of the special communications 4 4 16 FP EMPF1 7KLV IXQFWLRQ SDFNDJH LQFOXGHV Initialization of the couplings USS...

Страница 88: ...sure equalization flaps 5 1 Operator control elements and door mounted instruments The operator control elements and door mounted instruments are located in the door of the control cabinet 6LJQDOLQJ ODPSV H1Drive converter OFF H2Drive converter ON H3Group alarm H3Group fault 0HDVXULQJ HTXLSPHQW RSWLRQ P1 e g output voltage P2 e g output current P3 e g speed 2SHUDWRU SDQHO A10 Operator panel OP2 Pu...

Страница 89: ...th the following pre settings USS interface Station Address 0 or 1 Baud rate 19 2 kbaud Delay Time 100 ms 5 2 1 Language changeover The following languages are available German English If the language is to be changed then a Boolean value must be entered at input connector 1in the operator control and visualization function package FP BUB at block SPR In this case a logical 0 corresponds to German...

Страница 90: ...station address on the USS bus is defined using this parameter If a station address is not entered then the device does not establish a connection to SIMADYN D Select the function with the cursor keys Enter Transfer Numeric keypad Enter value BAUDRATE KBAUD USS INTERFACE 9 6 9 6 19 2 93 75 187 5 DXG UDWH RI WKH 866 EXV Enter Transfer Select the function Baud rate DELAY TIME ms USS INTERFACE 100 0 ...

Страница 91: ...lues B5 to B9 RPPDQG NH The command key B3 LT initiates the lamp test for the signal lamps in the front panel of the drive converter RPPDQG NH The command key B4 Acknowledge is used to acknowledge drive converter faults The acknowledge signal is generated at each edge change LQDU YDOXH This manually triggers the trace blocks The trace is stopped using this command Actual values saved in the ring b...

Страница 92: ...HG KDQJLQJ VHWSRLQWV The change mode is switched in for the selected process data A change which is being made is aborted Operating message No 5 SETPOINT CHANGE INHIBITED if an actual value was selected configuring Numerica l keypad Re input value less greater Changing the value with the continuous change keys and inching Backspace key Changeover between mantissa and exponent for floating numbers ...

Страница 93: ...speed setpoint can be entered using the V1 Value 1 The value can either be entered as positive or negative value A negative setpoint corresponds to a counter clockwise motor direction or rotation The setpoint is not limited here The setpoint from OP2 is transferred to the setpoint channel where it is limited by the selectable maximum minimum speed ...

Страница 94: ...otor speed V3 Motor current actual value as a percent referred to the rated motor current V4 Motor voltage as a percent referred to the rated motor voltage V5 DC link voltage as a percent referred to the rated DC link voltage V6 free V7 Motor active power as a percent referred to the rated motor output V8 free V9 free V10 Motor cos Phi V11 Operating hours of the drive converter 0 24 V12 Operating ...

Страница 95: ...U PHVVDJH SURFHVVLQJ The message system processing is selected using the MSG key The key LED is lit bright after it has been selected If the OP2 has not received any messages operating message No 16 is displayed NO MESSAGES AVAILABLE The text is kept until either a message is received or another function is selected e g VAL key 06 6HOHFWLQJ PHVVDJH V VWHP SURFHVVLQJ Message operation is re selecte...

Страница 96: ... data in a particular message and are exclusively dependent on the configured software in SIMADYN D The configuring engineer defines the display format on the SIMADYN D side by appropriately configuring the message systems You will find additional information in the User Documentation for SIMADYN D system software and D7 SYS configuring The OP2 displays the messages configured in SIMADYN D as foll...

Страница 97: ...seconds T message type alarm fault etc 0HVVDJH ZLWK SURFHVV GDWD DQG GLPHQVLRQ PD PHVVDJH FKDUDFWHUV dd mm yy hh mm ss zzz T MAX 28 CHARACTERS ARE LOCATED HERE 999 12345678 E 99 DIMENSIO 0HVVDJH ZLWKRXW SURFHVV GDWD 0D PHVVDJH FKDUDFWHUV dd mm yy hh mm ss zzz T MAX 56 CHARACTERS ARE HERE WHICH COME FROM SIMADYN D DPSOH of a message in the ASCII text format with measured value without dimensions 01...

Страница 98: ...dual control word bits are also defined in function package I O RQWURO ZRUG DW WKH SRZHU RQ ORJLF V23 input value 1 V24 actual value FRQWURO ZRUG at the power on logic LW ON OFF 1 a log 1 the ON command LW OFF2 a log 1 the OFF2 command LW OFF3 a log 1 the OFF3 command LW Inverter enable a log 1 inverter enable LW Ramp function generator enable a log 1 RFG enable LW Ramp function generator hold a l...

Страница 99: ...lt LW External alarm a log 1 alarm LW Checkback signal circuit breaker OPEN a log 1 circuit breaker is OPEN LW Command safety shutdown a log 1 safety shutdown LW Select fixed setpoint bit 0 a log 1 selection LW Select fixed setpoint bit 1 a log 1 selection LW Speed torque control selection a log 1 speed control LW Free RQWURO ZRUG RI WKH SRZHU RQ ORJLF DW WKH SHULSKHU V23 input value 3 V24 actual ...

Страница 100: ...assigned LW Not assigned LW Checkback signal power on logic faulted RQWURO ZRUG DW WKH HQDEOH FRQWURO RI WKH 7UDQVYHNWRU FORVHG ORRS FRQWURO V23 input value 5 V24 actual value control word DW WKH enable control of the Transvektor closed loop control LW Command initiate GSV test LW Command switch on the Transvektor closed loop control LW Command Transvektor closed loop control standard operation LW...

Страница 101: ...troller LW Not assigned LW Not assigned LW Not assigned 6WDWXV ZRUG DW WKH 3URILEXV LQWHUIDFH V23 input value 7 V24 actual value status value at the PROFIBUS interface LW Drive converter is in the READY TO POWER ON condition LW The converter is in the READY condition LW The converter is in the RUN condition LW The converter is in the FAULT condition LW The converter is in the condition NO OFF2 com...

Страница 102: ...NING LW Error in the control block DIFFERENTIAL CURRENT CONTROLLER LW Error in the control block FREQUENCY GENERATOR LW Not assigned LW Not assigned RQWURO ZRUG IURP WKH 3URILEXV LQWHUIDFH DW WKH GULYH FRQYHUWHU V23 input value 9 V24 actual value control word from the PROFIBUS interface at the drive converter LW ON OFF1 1 a log 1 ON command LW OFF2 a log 0 OFF2 command LW OFF3 a log 0 OFF3 command...

Страница 103: ...1 a log 1 selection LW Select fixed setpoint bit 2 a log 1 selection LW Speed torque control selection a log 1 speed control LW Still not assigned LQDU LQSXWV RI 7 LQSXWV WR V23 input value 11 V24 actual value IT41 binary inputs inputs 1 to 16 LW Command drive converter ON BE1 X100 33A X100 33B LW Command OFF1 BE2 X100 34A X100 34B LW Command OFF2 BE3 X100 35A X100 35B LW Command inverter enable B...

Страница 104: ...converter is READY TO POWER UP BA1 X100 48A X100 48B LW Drive converter is READY BA2 X100 49A X100 49B LW Drive converter is in OPERATION BA3 X100 50A X100 50B LW Drive converter has a fault BA4 X100 51A X100 51B LW Drive converter has an alarm BA5 X100 52A X100 52B LW Setpoint actual value deviation outside the tolerance bandwidth BA6 X100 53A X100 53B LW CLOSE commanc12 122 m 24 AD nA 2 s Cive ...

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Страница 106: ...V test ok Pre charge ZK RM pre charging completed Command LS CLOSED LS CLOSE Command GR ON Transformer inrush completed and locating completed GR ON Ready RM GR is ON Inverter enable Operation Command from the operator Converter status Program step RM time expired No RM time expired No RM time expired No RM time expired No RM time expired No Ja Yes Yes Yes Yes Fault Fig 5 2 Sequence diagram power ...

Страница 107: ...s the circuit breaker is opened as quickly as possible and the DC link discharged The drive converter goes into the FAULT condition DXOW FODVV Fault the drive is shutdown as for OFF1 The drive converter goes into the FAULT condition The circuit breaker is opened after the drive is shut down and the inverter inhibited When the circuit breaker is opened the white signal lamp goes dark and the green ...

Страница 108: ...ve converter OFF1 Operation RM time expired No yes RM time expired Yes No Ready to power on RM HIB OFF RM 6RA24 OFF RM time expired Yes Fault only for SM Operator command Converter status Program step Start run on fan HIB HIB OFF 6RA24 OFF Fan OFF Time expired Yes No No The drive converter goes into the ready to power on status further the fan HIB run on is started Crowbar thyristor ON RM Checkbac...

Страница 109: ...PEN Command HIB OFF Command OFF2 RM time expired No yes RM time expired yes No Operation RM HIB OFF RM 6RA24 OFF Not ready to power on Ready to power on OFF 1 command and no OFF 2 command and no OFF 3 command RM time expired yes Fault only for SM No Drive converter goes into the not ready to power on status further the fan HIB run on is started Crowbar thyristor ON Power on delay t 0 RM Checkback ...

Страница 110: ...nd HIB OFF Not ready to power on Ready to power on OFF 1 command and no OFF 2 command and not OFF 3 command Operation RM time expired No Yes RM time expired No Yes RM time expired Yes Yes Fault No RM HIB OFF RM 6RA24 OFF RM time expired only for SM Start run on fan HIB HIB OFF 6RA24 OFF Fan OFF Time expired Yes No No Drive converter goes into the not ready to power on status further the fan HIB ru...

Страница 111: ...no OFF 3 command FNQRZOHGJH and no Cl 1 fault and no Cl 2 fault and no ext fault and no safety shutdown RM time expired Yes No Operator command Converter status Program step RM HIB OFF RM 6RA24 OFF RM time expired ony for SM Start run on fan HIB HIB OFF 6RA24 OFF Fan OFF Time expired Yes No Yes No Drive converter goes into the fault status further the fan HIB run on is started Crowbar thyristor ON...

Страница 112: ...eady to power on Ready to power on No OFF 1 command and No OFF 2 command and No OFF 3 command FNQRZOHGJH and no Class 1 fault and no Class 2 fault and no ext fault and no safety shutdown No Operator command Converter status Program step RM HIB OFF RM 6RA24 OFF RM time expired only for SM Start run on fan HIB HIB OFF 6RA24 OFF Fan OFF Time expired Yes No Yes No Drive converter goes into the fault s...

Страница 113: ... GLWLRQ 2SHUDWLRQ Siemens AG 6SE8004 0BH76 SIMOVERT MV Commissioning Instructions 113 ...

Страница 114: ...he Federal Republic of Germany 02 00 The following editions have been published so far GLWLRQ QWHUQDO WHP 1XPEHU 02 00 436 126 9813 76 JM AA 76 Edition 02 00 consists of the following chapters KDSWHU Changes 9HUVLRQ GDWH 1 Transport storage and installation First edition 02 00 2 Connecting up First edition 02 00 3 Selected functions First edition 02 00 4 Start up First edition 02 00 5 Operation Fi...

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