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Controls and Functions

VX-3000 Installation/Operation Manual

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TEMP LED

Indicates fan status and internal temperature as follows:

• Off during normal operation

• Red when internal temperature is too high or a fan failure occurs

INTAKE VENT

POWER/STANDBY LED

Indicates power status as follows:

• Orange when the projector is in standby mode

• Flashes green for approximately 45 seconds after the projector is turned on to

indicate that the lamp is warming up

• Green during normal operation

• Flashes orange for approximately 110 seconds after the projector is turned off to

indicate that the lamp is cooling down

• Red when an internal failure requiring service has occurred

LAMP LED

Indicates lamp status as follows:

• Off during normal operation

• Red when the lamp has exceeded its usage life or developed a problem

RUNCO LOGO

The logo can be rotated to match the projector orientation: inverted (ceiling-mounted)
or upright. To rotate the logo, grip it at the sides, pull it away from the projector and
rotate it 180 degrees.

FRONT IR SENSOR

10.

FOCUS RING (Standard VX-3000)

To adjust the focus, grasp the lens by the outer ring and rotate it.

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Страница 1: ...1080p DLPTM Home Theater Projector INSTALLATION OPERATION MANUAL VX 3000...

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Страница 3: ...0 hours whichever comes first from the effective date of delivery to the initial end user Such replacement parts are then subsequently warranted for the remaining portion if any of the original warran...

Страница 4: ...Limited Warranty begins on the date of delivery to the end user For your convenience keep the original bill of sale as evidence of the purchase date Repairs made under the terms of this Limited Warran...

Страница 5: ...l information about this Limited Warranty please call or write RUNCO INTERNATIONAL LLC 1195 NW Compton Drive Beaverton OR 97006 1992 Ph 503 748 5799 Fax 503 748 8161 Toll Free 800 23 RUNCO 800 237 862...

Страница 6: ...paratus When a cart is used use caution when moving the cart apparatus to avoid injury from tip over 13 Unplug this apparatus during lightning storms or when unused for long periods of time 14 Refer a...

Страница 7: ...4 6 Electromagnetic compatibility EMC Part 4 Testing and measurement techniques Section 6 Conducted disturbances induced by radio frequency fields immunity test EN 61000 4 8 Electromagnetic compatibil...

Страница 8: ...roduct contains small amounts of tin lead and or mercury Disposal of these materials may be regulated due to environmental considerations Lamp s inside this product contain mercury This product may co...

Страница 9: ...nd Functions 5 VX 3000 at a Glance 5 VX 3000 Rear Panel 8 VX 3000 Remote Control 9 3 Installation 13 Remote Control 13 Notes on Batteries 13 Notes on Remote Control Operation 13 Quick Setup 14 Install...

Страница 10: ...42 Turning on the Power 42 Primary Lens Adjustments 43 Focus and Zoom 43 Focus and Zoom VX 3000 Ultra 43 Lens Shift 43 Changing the OSD Language 43 Adjusting the Picture Orientation 44 Installing and...

Страница 11: ...nications 77 RS 232 Connection and Port Configuration 77 Serial Command Syntax 77 7 Specifications 87 VX 3000 Specifications 87 Overall Dimensions VX 3000i CineWide and VX 3000d CineWide 90 Overall Di...

Страница 12: ...Table of Contents xii VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual P R E L I M I N A R Y...

Страница 13: ...Kinley Cylindrical Lens Base Plate and Ceiling Mounting Plate Exploded View 33 3 12 VX 3000 Ultra CineWide with Rainier II McKinley Cylindrical Lens Base Plate and Ceil ing Mounting Plate Exploded Vie...

Страница 14: ...tone Correction 64 4 7 Pincushion Correction 65 4 8 Gain and Offset 69 4 9 CIE 1931 Chromaticity Diagram 71 7 1 Overall Dimensions VX 3000i CineWide and VX 3000d CineWide Prismatic Lens 90 7 2 Overall...

Страница 15: ...tual and Graphic Conventions Text Conventions The following conventions are used in this manual in order to clarify the information and instructions provided Remote and built in keypad button identifi...

Страница 16: ...ficance They also provide supplemental information CAUTIONS alert users that a given action or omitted action can degrade performance or cause a malfunction WARNINGS appear when a given action or omit...

Страница 17: ...comply with Imaging Science Foundation ISF standards for maximum home theater image quality Runco s sophisticated parameters for white balance and color gamut control have also been implemented for p...

Страница 18: ...finitely variable adjustment of the light path through the optics enabling the perfect balance of black and white levels for each individual installation Parts List Your VX 3000 is shipped with the fo...

Страница 19: ...Glance Figure 2 1 and Figure 2 2 show the key VX 3000 components Figure 2 1 VX 3000 Front Side Top View 1 EXHAUST VENT 2 ZOOM TAB Standard VX 3000 Use this to change the projected image size with a s...

Страница 20: ...Green during normal operation Flashes orange for approximately 110 seconds after the projector is turned off to indicate that the lamp is cooling down Red when an internal failure requiring service h...

Страница 21: ...rotate the logo grip it at the sides pull it away from the projector and rotate it 180 degrees 2 CABLE OPENING Pass cables through this opening 3 CABLE ACCESS DOOR Open to access connectors 4 LAMP MO...

Страница 22: ...Component YPrPb input for connecting a DVD HD DVD BD player HD set top box or other SD HD source 4 COMPOSITE VIDEO INPUT Standard composite video input for connecting a VCR laser disc player or other...

Страница 23: ...ng either RGB or component YPbPr SD or HD video signals The VX 3000 automatically detects the signal format 2 3 VX 3000 Remote Control Figure 2 4 shows the VX 3000 remote control and the paragraphs th...

Страница 24: ...ress to select the Component 2 RGB input HDMI HDMI 2 Press to select an HDMI input 4 INFO Displays active source signal resolution aspect ratio and other projector status information Cursor Keys Use t...

Страница 25: ...put from the Custom 1 or Custom 2 memory preset 7 Aspect Ratio Selection Buttons Use these buttons to select an aspect ratio directly as follows 16 9 For viewing 16 9 DVDs or HDTV programs in their na...

Страница 26: ...the active window in PIP mode PIP Press to activate PIP mode PIP Press to enlarge the PIP window PIP Press to shrink the size of the PIP window 10 Motorized Lens Controls FOCUS VX 3000 Ultra only Pre...

Страница 27: ...control for a long time remove the batteries to avoid damage from battery leakage Notes on Remote Control Operation Make sure that there is nothing obstructing the infrared beam between the remote co...

Страница 28: ...plate optional 26 4 Mount the projector 36 5 Connect signal sources to the VX 3000 37 6 Connect external controller to RS 232 port optional 40 7 Connect 12 volt trigger output to AutoScope lens motor...

Страница 29: ...brant Table 3 2 Projector Installation Options Advantages Considerations Front Screen Floor Mount Installation Easy to set up Can be moved or changed quickly Easy to access Shares floor space with aud...

Страница 30: ...o project a focused image large enough to fill the screen Figure 3 1 Estimating Throw Distance Table 3 3 gives the throw ratios for the VX 3000 Table 3 3 Throw Ratios for the VX 3000 Projector Model T...

Страница 31: ...or VX 3000d CineWide with AutoScope McKinley Lens 1 87 2 20 135 76 159 72 1 40 1 65 134 40 158 40 Table 3 3 Throw Ratios for the VX 3000 continued Projector Model Throw Ratio with Primary Lens Only T...

Страница 32: ...ft You can use the lens shift LENS controls on the projector remote to center the image on the screen Lens shift is generally expressed as a percentage of the screen height or width as shown in Figure...

Страница 33: ...Figure 3 4 Horizontal Lens Shift Example Only 0 Screen Center 100 Width Lens Shift 1 0 x W 50 Width Lens Shift 0 5 x W Screen Width W Note This is a general example of lens shift Lenses vary in their...

Страница 34: ...0 10 Note 4 10 Lens Shift Limits in Inches with a 100 by 56 inch 1 78 1 Screen Vertical Up 19 60 10 08 11 20 11 20 11 20 11 20 Down 28 00 14 00 24 64 24 64 25 76 25 76 Horizontal Left 0 10 00 Note 4...

Страница 35: ...r for assistance Figure 3 5 Folded Optics Other Considerations Other considerations and tips that can help improve your installation Keep the ambient temperature constant and below 35 C 95 F Keep the...

Страница 36: ...y from the projector Proceed as follows to install it 1 Carefully remove the projector from the shipping container and place it on a flat surface 2 Loosen the Phillips screw at the bottom of the decor...

Страница 37: ...s from damage 6 Carefully cut and remove the plastic band around the lens motor connector wires Take great care not to cut the wires 7 Detach the lens motor connector from the motor by removing the tw...

Страница 38: ...he lens assembly motor has a male socket connector 9 Remove the front cap from the lens 10 Connect the lens motor to the projector 11 Hold the lens assembly with the motor facing upward Carefully inse...

Страница 39: ...bly to the projector flange with the three Allen screws on the outer ring of the assembly using a 3 mm hex driver 14 Install the foam shield around the front of the lens 15 Replace the front lens beze...

Страница 40: ...a CineWide projector equipped with a cylindrical Rainier II or McKinley anamorphic lens proceed with Installing the Fixed CineWide Base Plate Cylindrical Lens page 33 If you are installing a VX 3000i...

Страница 41: ...3000i CineWide with AutoScope or VX 3000d CineWide with AutoScope Motor Assembly Exploded View 4 5 Screw Phillips Pan Head 10 32 x 1 2 4x 1 AutoScope Lens Motor 2 Screw Phillips Flat Head 10 32 x 1 4...

Страница 42: ...n a blanket or other soft surface Then remove the two height adjusters at the front of the projector by turning them counterclockwise until they come out Standoff 10mm x 5mm x M5 Aluminum Black Anodiz...

Страница 43: ...ottom of the projector up and around the AutoScope lens motor housing For floor installations where the projector is upright the adapters allow the projector to lie flat on the mounting surface Using...

Страница 44: ...of the projector 3 Secure the motor to the projector with the four 4 supplied 10 32 Pan Head Phillips screws item 1 and nylon spacers or aluminum standoffs item 7 4 Secure the AutoScope Ceiling Mount...

Страница 45: ...plate included with the projector ceiling mount kit with those on the bottom of the projector 3 Line up the two mounting holes on the CineWide base plate with those on the bottom of the projector and...

Страница 46: ...nting Plate Bottom View Washers under Lens Base Plate 2 places Washers between Lens Base Plate and Ceiling Mounting Plate 2 places VX 3000i CineWide or VX 3000d CineWide with Prismatic Lens Base Plate...

Страница 47: ...nley lens base plate assembly for a VX 3000i CineWide or VX 3000d CineWide Figure 3 11 VX 3000i CineWide or VX 3000d CineWide with Rainier II McKinley Cylindrical Lens Base Plate and Ceiling Mounting...

Страница 48: ...inier II McKinley lens base plate assembly Figure 3 12 VX 3000 Ultra CineWide with Rainier II McKinley Cylindrical Lens Base Plate and Ceiling Mounting Plate Exploded View Ceiling Mount Plate part of...

Страница 49: ...e plate as shown in Figure 3 12 4 If you are mounting the projector on a ceiling Line up the four holes on the projector ceiling mounting plate included with the projector ceiling mount kit with those...

Страница 50: ...is purpose for example rubber crutch tips or turntable feet Adjusting the Projector Height or Projection Angle If the screen is significantly higher or lower than the projector you can also tilt the p...

Страница 51: ...3 13 With an HDMI source use the included HDMI to HDMI cable with a DVI source use a DVI to HDMI cable Figure 3 13 HDMI DVI Source Connections Use the HDMI input whenever possible This ensures the hi...

Страница 52: ...source has a 15 pin VGA type connector Figure 3 14 RGB Connections Progressive Component Video Connections Connect your progressive component source DVD player or HD set top box to the COMP 2 RGB inpu...

Страница 53: ...R Y Composite S Video Component Video Connections Connect your composite S Video and component video sources to the VX 3000 as shown in Figure 3 16 Figure 3 16 Composite S Video and Component Video C...

Страница 54: ...3 17 For more information about using this connection refer to Serial Communications on page 77 Figure 3 17 RS 232 Control System Connection S VID S VID 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 6 D Sub 9 pin female RJ 11 Mal...

Страница 55: ...igger output as shown in Figure 3 18 Figure 3 18 Connecting the 12 Volt Trigger Output to the AutoScope Lens Motor If your home theater contains a retractable screen screen mask or other 12 volt trigg...

Страница 56: ...ce 3 8 Turning on the Power 1 Turn on your source components 2 If this is an AutoScope equipped projector turn on the main power switch at the rear of the AutoScope lens motor The lens motor power swi...

Страница 57: ...S button then use the left and right arrow buttons to adjust the focus To make the picture smaller zoom out press the ZOOM button then use the left arrow button To enlarge the picture zoom in press th...

Страница 58: ...1 aspect ratio with a 1 78 1 display device The cylindrical anamorphic lens has a larger aperture than the prismatic lens It stretches the width of the image to achieve a 2 35 1 aspect ratio with a 1...

Страница 59: ...arriage Plate or Fixed CineWide Base Plate item 7 Position the bracket so that the long slot at the bottom of the lens holder is perpendicular to the corresponding slots on the plate 3 Secure the Anam...

Страница 60: ...projector It accomplishes this by moving the anamorphic lens in front of the primary lens when widescreen material is being viewed When the viewer transitions back to 16 9 or 4 3 source material the...

Страница 61: ...s into place from right to left or vice versa so that there are no shadows on either side of the screen 4 When the horizontal position is properly set tighten the Yaw X Adjustment Levers to secure the...

Страница 62: ...gled with respect to the projector this is normal Once the proper lens angle has been set firmly tighten the Pitch Adjustment T Screws to secure the lens in place Adjusting the Yaw Loosen the Yaw X Ad...

Страница 63: ...allow it to rotate freely 3 Grasp the lens by the center ring and rotate the lens until the image is properly anamorphic 4 When the image geometry appears correct tighten the Anamorphic Lens Set Scre...

Страница 64: ...ens with the brackets installed on top of or under if the projector is inverted the Base Plate item 2 so that the two threaded posts at the bottom of the brackets pass through the corresponding slots...

Страница 65: ...ttom pincushion distortion To do this loosen the Pitch Adjustment Screws on either side of the lens to allow it to pivot freely Then adjust the anamorphic lens angle so that the projected image is rec...

Страница 66: ...Z Adjustment Knobs to allow the lens to pivot freely from side to side Then angle the lens to even out any left right pincushion distortion Once the proper lens angle has been set firmly tighten the...

Страница 67: ...ial being viewed For more information on aspect ratios refer to Table 4 1 4 3 Adjusting the Picture Press the BRT button on the remote control to adjust the image brightness Press CONT to adjust the i...

Страница 68: ...the same for the secondary window input source using the and ENTER buttons When finished press EXIT 4 6 Using the On Screen Menus Press the MENU button on the remote control to display the Main Menu...

Страница 69: ...5 2 4 or 2 2 Advanced Color Enhance ACE R G B Y C M Limit Saturation Gamut refer to page 71 Reset to Defaults Yes No Source Select Video S Video Component 1 Component 2 HDMI 1 HDMI 2 RGB HD Picture Ad...

Страница 70: ...imal video performance and has implemented a training program for technicians and installers to use these standards to obtain optimal picture quality from Runco video display devices Accordingly Runco...

Страница 71: ...choose Custom 1 Custom 2 ISF Night or ISF Day Brightness On your external test pattern source select a PLUGE pattern PLUGE is an acronym for Picture Line Up Generation Equipment Figure 4 2 shows a ty...

Страница 72: ...ue white The image contains only black gray and white no color Contrast On your external test pattern source select a stepped gray bar pattern like the one shown in Figure 4 3 Figure 4 3 Typical Gray...

Страница 73: ...e is essentially the ratio of red to green in the color portion of the image When tint is decreased the image appears redder when it is increased the image appears greener To set the tint select Tint...

Страница 74: ...4 5 Typical Test Pattern for Adjusting Sharpness Color Temperature The VX 3000 has five memory settings for Color Temperature 5400 kelvins 6500 kelvins 9300 kelvins Custom 1 Custom 2 Custom 1 and Cust...

Страница 75: ...ct 16 9 to view 16 9 DVDs and HDTV programs in their native aspect ratio 4 3 images are stretched horizontally to fit a 16 9 screen 4 3 4 3 4 3 scales the input signal to fit in the center of the 16 9...

Страница 76: ...n are masked but the geometry of the active image area is unchanged With a 2 35 1 screen and a CineWide equipped projector the video processor scales the 2 35 1 image so that the active image area fil...

Страница 77: ...more mirrors There are four settings Floor Front Ceiling Front Floor Rear and Ceiling Rear Virtual Cinema VCINE A 16 9 image is scaled NON linearly more on the sides than in the center to fit a 2 35...

Страница 78: ...jection select V Keystone or H Keystone from the GeoCorrection menu and use the or button to make the image rectangular See Figure 4 6 Figure 4 6 Keystone Correction GeoCorrection V Keystone 0 H Keyst...

Страница 79: ...with an anamorphic lens refer to Installing and Adjusting the CineWide Anamorphic Lens in Section 3 To correct it select Pincushion from the GeoCorrection menu and use the or button to make the image...

Страница 80: ...ting of a clear pattern of black and white pixels or a similar half on half off graphic image You may find that you can stabilize the image at more than one point Use either setting in this case H Pos...

Страница 81: ...Mode from the Setup Menu to control the operation of the projector s cooling fan In most cases the default Fan Mode Normal will maintain the correct operating temperature If the lamp frequently turns...

Страница 82: ...ve aspect ratio of the display in small increments Amplitude The Amplitude menu allows you to fine tune the aspect ratio by compressing it horizontally or vertically in small increments This can be us...

Страница 83: ...80 IRE window pattern If the white areas contain traces of red green or blue decrease the Gain for that color Offset Use the Offset controls in the White Balance sub menu to correct color imbalances...

Страница 84: ...ated Black Threshold This control compensates for incoming elevated black levels present in certain video signals and ensures that blacks in the display are neither crushed where dark grays appear bla...

Страница 85: ...ed Color Enhance ACE controls in the Calibration menu are adequate for producing accurate and realistic colors from a variety of sources In rare cases though you may need more precise control over the...

Страница 86: ...to set the digit 10 Press to select the next digit use the and buttons to change it 11 Repeat Step 10 for the third digit 12 Press ENTER 13 Press to highlight the y coordinate value for White Then pre...

Страница 87: ...ely 45 minutes prior to removing the lamp assembly for replacement 2 Loosen the two captive screws from the lamp cover 3 Remove the lamp cover 4 Remove the two lamp assembly mounting screws 5 Grasp th...

Страница 88: ...he batteries have run out Replace the batteries The projector is on and OSD menus appear but there is no video image on screen Incorrect source selection Source component is not turned on Source compo...

Страница 89: ...a new one TEMP LED lights solid red VX 3000 internal temperature is too high or one or more fans have failed Power off the VX 3000 and allow it to cool down Ensure that the intake and exhaust vents a...

Страница 90: ...Maintenance and Troubleshooting 76 VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual P R E L I M I N A R Y Notes...

Страница 91: ...mat Commands must be in UPPERCASE for example X001X not x001x When you send a valid command the VX 3000 performs the following actions 1 Echoes the command back to the PC or control system unless the...

Страница 92: ...030X Remote 0 X041X Picture Memory Custom 1 X042X Picture Memory Custom 2 X043X Picture Memory ISF Day X044X Picture Memory ISF Night X047X Picture Adjust Reset to default X048X Setup Reset to default...

Страница 93: ...X066X Aspect Ration VirtualCinema X067X For service tool copy ct RGB value X071X baud rate 9600 X072X baud rate 19200 X073X baud rate 115200 default X081X show factory menu X082X Image orientation flo...

Страница 94: ...or Temp Custom1 X116X Color Temp Custom2 X121X Switch OSD language 1 English X122X Switch OSD language 2 French X123X Switch OSD language 3 Spanish X124X Switch OSD language 4 German X125X Switch OSD...

Страница 95: ...ld X237X DMDMagentaSolidField X252X DMDFullWhiteCurtain X253X set IRIS full off X254X set IRIS full on X255X set dynamic black off X256X set dynamic black on X260X test pattern off X300X focus enable...

Страница 96: ...t decrement 1 X530X H keystone increment 1 X531X H keystone decrement 1 X532X V keystone increment 1 X533X V keystone decrement 1 X550X Disable Splash screen X551X Enable splash screen X552X Disable O...

Страница 97: ...User sharpness Z017 Color temperature Z034 Burn In On timer Z035 Burn In Off timer Z038 Burn In Cycle Z090 select IRE Z091 NR_TR Z092 Detail Enhance Z093 LTI Z094 CTI Z104 Gamma gain Red adjust ColorT...

Страница 98: ...Z145 Splash timer Z146 Cine Wide mode Z147 Splash Screen ISF or normal Z148 Focus Zoom OSD visible Z150 select RS232 baudrate Z151 Dep Timing Z152 Change Timing Tmp Z153 RGBHD ADC R offset Z154 RGBHD...

Страница 99: ...86 Red saturation Z187 Green saturation Z188 Blue saturation Z189 Yellow saturation Z190 Cyan saturation Z191 Magenta saturation Z200 Gamut menu Table 6 3 Serial Commands U Command Code Function U1 Se...

Страница 100: ...Serial Communications 86 VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual P R E L I M I N A R Y...

Страница 101: ...solution 1920 x 1080 16 9 Aspect Ratios 4 3 Letterbox 16 9 VirtualWide Cinema Virtual Cinema Video Standards NTSC PAL ATSC Video Compatibility 480i 480p 576i 576p 720p 1080i 1080p Scan Frequency Horiz...

Страница 102: ...rs The foot Lambert measurement is dependent on screen size screen gain and projector light output Home Theater Calibration Specifications VX 3000i VX 3000d Light Output 438 to 543 ANSI Lumens Contras...

Страница 103: ...Environment 41 F to 95 F 5 C to 35 C 20 to 80 humidity non condensing Dimensions VX 3000i VX 3000d See Figure 7 1 VX 3000 Ultra See Figure 7 2 VX 3000 CineWide with AutoScope See Figure 7 3 Weight wit...

Страница 104: ...00 dimensions all dimensions are in inches Figure 7 1 Overall Dimensions VX 3000i CineWide and VX 3000d CineWide Prismatic Lens 0 9 8 19 7 6 1 18 7 14 9 14 0 5 7 0 5 6 7 3 8 0 2 9 9 9 1 6 0 1 4 3 2 5...

Страница 105: ...00 Ultra Figure 7 2 shows the VX 3000 Ultra dimensions all dimensions are in inches Figure 7 2 Overall Dimensions VX 3000 Ultra 0 9 8 18 8 14 9 19 7 0 8 6 3 7 3 7 9 5 5 0 6 8 6 6 9 6 0 2X 1 2 2X 18 5...

Страница 106: ...ws the VX 3000 CineWide with AutoScope dimensions all dimensions are in inches Figure 7 3 Overall Dimensions VX 3000i CineWide with AutoScope 0 9 8 19 7 6 1 18 7 14 9 0 5 6 7 3 8 0 2 9 1 0 6 5 9 12 1...

Страница 107: ...0 31 469 25 175 72 00 37 861 31 500 75 00 37 500 31 500 85 00 43 269 36 000 800x600 800x600 56 00 35 156 36 000 60 00 37 879 40 000 72 00 48 077 50 000 75 00 46 875 49 500 85 00 53 674 56 250 848x480...

Страница 108: ...59 94 15 734 13 500 480 60p 720x483 59 94 31 469 27 000 576 50i 720x576 50 00 15 625 14 750 576 50p 720x576 50 00 31 250 29 000 720 50p 1280x720 50 00 37 500 75 250 720 60p 1280x720 60 00 45 000 74 25...

Страница 109: ...750 3 580 NTSC 4 43 59 94 60 00 15 734 15 750 4 430 PAL B G 50 00 15 625 4 430 PAL M 59 94 60 00 15 734 15 750 3 580 PAL N 50 00 15 625 3 580 PAL 60 59 94 60 00 15 734 15 750 4 430 SECAM 50 00 15 625...

Страница 110: ...Specifications 96 VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual P R E L I M I N A R Y Notes...

Страница 111: ...Specifications VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual 97 P R E L I M I N A R Y Notes...

Страница 112: ...Specifications 98 VX 3000 Installation Operation Manual P R E L I M I N A R Y...

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Страница 114: ...Runco International 800 23RUNCO Fax 503 748 8161 www runco com SERIAL NUMBER 020 1009 00 Rev A September 2009...

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