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Support Components

WALL BAND ( 60MM)
Internal and External Application

The wall band is supplied in three parts, two stainless steel split bands
which fit tightly around the outside of the chimney and a stainless steel
back bracket. The parts are joined together by means of the nuts and
bolts provided. The use of the item maintains a fixed distance of 60mm
depending on the wall band type chosen from the outer casing of the
chimney to the wall or fixing point.

1.

Once the position of the support has been determined, secure the
back bracket to the wall with a method of fixing to ensure adequate
attachment and support.

2.

The stainless steel split band is then positioned around the chimney
section and secured with the nuts and bolts provided to the back
bracket.

3.

The wall bracket provides lateral stability only, it is NOT load
bearing and is to be positioned at 3 metre centres.

ADJUSTABLE BACK BRACKET 60-300MM
Internal and External Application

The adjustable wall bracket is supplied in three parts, a ‘U’ shaped
stainless steel adjustable section, two bolts for fixing the wall band to the
back bracket and a strengthening cross bracket.

4.

Once the position of the support has been determined, secure the
U shaped bracket to the wall with a method of fixing to ensure
adequate attachment and support.

5.

Determine the amount of extension required and secure the back
bracket of the wall band in place onto the adjustable section.

6.

Fasten the strengthening cross bracket in place using the bolts
provided.

7.

With the back bracket in place, locate the rear portion of the band
onto the back bracket, the outer part of the band is then positioned
around the chimney section and secured with the nuts and bolts
provided.

8.

The adjustable wall band provides lateral stability only, it is NOT
load bearing and is to be positioned at 3 metre centres.

Int Ø

80

100

130

150

180

200

230

250

300

Ext Ø

130

150

180

200

230

250

280

300

350

A

131

151

181

201

231

251

281

301

351

B

72

81

112

132

162

182

214

232

283

C

25

25

25

25

25

25

25

25

30

Wall Band

(60mm)

Wall Band and

Adjustable

Back Bracket

Assembly

B

C

Adjustable Back

Bracket 60-

300mm

B

A

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Summary of Contents for ICID Plus

Page 1: ... com uk ICS Installation Instructions SCHIEDEL INSTALLER REWARDS DON T FORGET TO REGISTER YOUR INSTALLATIONS AND START EARNING SCHIEDEL INSTALLER REWARDS See inside for more details SAP Issue 5 940002195 April 2019 ...

Page 2: ...ment Scheme approved to BS EN ISO 9001 4 Hour Fire Rating to BS476 Part 20 Certified for corrosion resistance on gas oil and solid fuel by Gastec MPA and TÜV HETAS listed for use on solid fuel applications For full information please see p 8 Distance to Combustibles Section Approvals 2 Design Guide 3 Prior to Installation 4 Connecting Flue Pipe 5 6 BS EN 15287 1 7 8 System Chimney 9 11 Installatio...

Page 3: ...ts BS EN 15287 1 Chimneys Design installation and commissioning of chimneys Chimneys for non room sealed heating appliances BS 5440 1 Fluing and ventilation for gas appliances of rated input not exceeding 70kW net 1st 2nd and 3rd family gases Specification for installation of gas appliances to chimneys and for maintenance of chimneys Approved Document J Combustion appliances and fuel storage syste...

Page 4: ...not within 150mm of the ceiling and b between 1m and 3m horizontally from the appliance N B Provision of a carbon monoxide alarm should not be regarded as a substitute for correct installation and regular servicing PAINTING If painting of any external sections is required it is important to de grease dry and prime the exterior surface prior to the application of appropriate heat resistant paint Sc...

Page 5: ... unless otherwise specified by the appliance manufacturer This is in accordance with the recommendations contained in BS 5440 Part 1 section 4 1 5 CONNECTING FLUE PIPE DIAMETER The chimney size should be as recommended by the appliance manufacturer Where there is a requirement for a flue diameter smaller than the appliance spigot then the operational requirements of the appliance and the configura...

Page 6: ... certain conditions as described in alternative methods in BS EN 15287 1 this may be increased to 450mm See p 5 6 for full details Within a system Chimney Connecting Flue Pipe there should be no more than 4 changes of direction of maximum 45 90 Factory made bends or tees within the system may be treated as being equal to two 45 bends as per Document J of the Building Regulations issued October 201...

Page 7: ...r than the existing chimney wall the connecting flue pipe must be a System Chimney of twin wall insulated design Top Outlet Twin Wall Connecting Flue Pipe through Solid Wall into Twin Wall System Chimney Wall Sleeve Trim Collar FlexibleTwin Wall Chimney Liner Chimney Wall Support Bracket Swept Elbow Tee Piece Single Wall to Flex Connector 450mm Wall Support Measured from back of connecting flue pi...

Page 8: ...urers distance to combustibles Measured from back of connecting flue pipe to flue liner No further bends allowed on this configuration 600min 100 100 For minimum distance for this configuration check manufacturers distance to combustibles Measured from back of appliance to outside surface of chimney Measured from back of appliance to liner of masonry chimney Twin Wall Chimney System 300 Wall Suppo...

Page 9: ...all fuels there should be no more than 4 changes of direction of maximum 45 Factory made 90 bends or tees within the system may be treated as being equal to two 45 bends as per Document J of the Building Regulations issued October 2010 CONNECTION TO DRAUGHT DIVERTER Where the appliance features a draught diverter the connection should rise vertically from it for at least 600mm before any change of...

Page 10: ...le or non combustible ceiling an unventilated bungalow fire stop plate kit can be used Please note that an unventilated support plate can not be used above the ceiling in this case The weight of the chimney should be supported using the roof support see p 33 Distance to combustibles must be respected within the ceiling space see Fig 2 below and mesh frame should be used within the loft space which...

Page 11: ...ing the extended locking bands at the joint immediately below the last support and on each pipe joint above the last support Alternatively guy wire brackets can be used at the 1 5m level and every 1 5m thereafter in conjunction with guy wires or rigid stays provided by others CHIMNEY TERMINATION For full information regarding to chimney termination please refer to Annex M of BS EN 15287 1 As a gui...

Page 12: ...cking Band Male Spigot Stainless Steel Outer case Spacer Wire Female Socket Insulation Capillary Break Stainless Steel Inner Liner Lip seal TÜV Approved 200Pa ICS Plus STANDARD CHIMNEY SECTIONS PIPES TEES AND ELBOWS Before assembling chimney sections slip a locking band over female socket of the chimney section Ensure the sections are pushed tightly together before securing the locking band by use...

Page 13: ...ing the structural locking band on the joint immediately below and on every joint above the last support Please see diagram on page 39 ADAPTORS FROM PRIMA PLUS PRIMA SMOOTH TO ICS These components are used to convert from a single wall connecting flue pipe to the ICS system chimney The protruding liner should be pushed down inside the female socket of the connecting flue pipe with the double wall ...

Page 14: ... length and should be secured with the locking band provided ANCHOR PLATE When commencing an installation with a fire chest hood or similar an anchor plate with plain end should be used When extending an existing brick or masonry chimney stack an anchor plate must be used which needs to be lined with a TecnoFlex Plus Liner then the anchor plate with the screw fit connection should be used The line...

Page 15: ...used with standard components to achieve an exact length on site and avoid on site cutting of components 1 Calculate the length required Loosen the joint band and remove the top section of the adjustable pipe 2 Remove insulation as required to achieve the correct length 3 Re assemble the pipe and cover the joint with the joint band 4 Fix the adjusted section to standard components using the lockin...

Page 16: ...per a standard pipe section VERTICAL DRAIN PIPE This component is used on condensing systems and provides the facility to collect and drain off condensate from the chimney It is installed in the same way as a standard pipe It is provided as standard with a 3 4 BSP fitting SW DW ADJUSTABLE STARTER SECTION The protruding male spigot of the adaptor slides down inside the female socket of the Prima Sm...

Page 17: ...m Chimney on condensing systems to ensure that condensate can drain down through the system to a drain point This component is installed as per a standard pipe section 135 TEE This component may be used in combination with a 45 elbow to connect from a connecting flue pipe to the vertical system chimney It is installed as per a standard pipe section and provides the least resistance to the flow of ...

Page 18: ... liner into the appliance spigot Remove two loose insulation strips and keep to one side Slide adjustable case down over the insulation to cover the appliance spigot Finished installation Seal using the rope gasket fire cement or similar Loosen the locking band on the liner using the quick release clip retain the locking band to one side Break the fire cement seal between the appliance spigot and ...

Page 19: ...Slide liner spigot down inside the appliance spigot and seal using the fire cement rope gasket or similar Slide adjustable cover down 5mm past insulation Position final insulation around spigot with joint to the rear Slide locking band into place around the joint on the liner Now tighten the bolt on the locking band around the joint of the liner Slide adjustable case down over the insulation to co...

Page 20: ...300 A 280 299 327 336 355 373 373 392 411 B 75 80 88 90 95 100 100 105 110 Offsets for Double 45 Bend Int Ø 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 A 307 324 341 358 376 393 427 427 461 B 127 134 141 148 156 163 177 177 191 Offsets for Double 90 Bend Int Ø 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 A 300 316 348 366 396 420 452 468 518 B 300 316 248 366 396 420 452 468 518 B A Offsets for 135 Tee 45 Bend Int Ø...

Page 21: ...191 193 198 203 203 208 213 150 Eff Pipe A 414 433 461 470 489 507 507 526 545 B 153 158 166 168 173 178 178 183 188 Double 45 Bend C W Pipe Length Int Ø 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 955 Eff Pipe A 982 999 1016 1033 1051 1068 1102 1102 1136 B 802 809 816 823 831 838 852 852 866 455 Eff Pipe A 629 646 663 680 698 715 749 749 783 B 449 456 463 470 478 485 499 499 513 205 Eff Pipe A 452 469 486...

Page 22: ...distance x 2 Lower the chimney section through the opening in the floor and secure to the next section of pipe 3 Locate the two halves of the support plates around the chimney section and secure to the joists using screws or bolts 4 Remove the screws which are fastened to the clamp band Then fasten clamp band around the chimney section and position on top of the plate Tighten using the nuts and bo...

Page 23: ...e Fig 2 above NON VENTILATED BUNGALOW FIRESTOP 1 2 PIECE ROUND AND 1 PIECE RECTANGULAR Installed as per a ventilated firestop using the location holes provided see Fig 4 above Distance to combustibles must be respected see p 8 for further info SUPPORT PLATE WITH S S CLAMP BAND NON COMBUSTIBLE FLOOR The support plate is used where the chimney passes through a non combustible floor and the weight of...

Page 24: ... wall bracket is supplied in three parts a U shaped stainless steel adjustable section two bolts for fixing the wall band to the back bracket and a strengthening cross bracket 4 Once the position of the support has been determined secure the U shaped bracket to the wall with a method of fixing to ensure adequate attachment and support 5 Determine the amount of extension required and secure the bac...

Page 25: ...lateral stability only it is NOT load bearing and is to be positioned at maximum 4 metre centres STRUCTURAL WALL BAND EXTENSIONS Available in 3 different sizes Type W1 gives adjustment of between 55 100mm from the wall L1 gives adjustment of between 100 250mm from the wall and L2 gives adjustment of between 100 440mm from the wall 1 Once the position of the support has been determined secure the b...

Page 26: ...rough the fixing slots in the top plate see Fig 1 The bolts should then be tightened firmly For maximum height of chimney see load bearing details please refer to tables and diagrams on page 39 and page 40 Int Ø 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 A 188 208 238 258 278 285 315 335 385 B 246 266 296 316 346 366 396 416 471 Fig 1 Top Plate Side Plates F E D C A B 100 RETROFIT WALL SUPPORT Lower the c...

Page 27: ...470 470 470 470 470 470 470 470 470 F 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 Cantilever Brackets Types 325 475 A B Support Components Cantilever Support Adjustment Int Ø 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 C max Type 325 184 164 134 114 84 64 Type 457 334 314 284 264 234 214 184 164 114 Type 570 426 409 379 359 329 309 279 259 209 C min Type 325 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 Type 457 50 50 50 50 50 50 50...

Page 28: ...or lintels and their support areas as well as other bearing elements must not be weakened In case of uncertainty consult a structural engineer IMPORTANT Remove plasterboard NOTE The vapour barrier must not be damaged Cut a cross shape in the vapour barrier to the required dimensions of the opening see figs 1 and 2 The dimensions of the IGNIS PROTECT wall bushings have already been matched to the s...

Page 29: ...of the finished vapour barrier sealed tightly all round Check width of the opening 565mm NOTE Ignis Protect must not be shortened on site With Ignis Protect in place cut away the vapour barrier flush to the edges Check height of the opening see image 2 NOTE Ignis Protect must not be shortened on site Secure the junctions with the vapour barrier by applying appropriate sealing tape to the foil lami...

Page 30: ...ng notes on page 31 Check that the thermal insulation is flush with the wall By pulling out the corresponding inner protection pipes and the assembly cap A the connection size is adapted to fit the required connecting pipe or transition piece The Ignis Protect inner protection pipe and the outer protection pipe are basically designed for 24mm wall planking The inner protection pipes and the assemb...

Page 31: ...ion Hand Protection Breathing Ear Protection P3 FFP3 Respiratory Protection Mask HAZARDS FOR PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT Mineral wool insulation materials in this group of products can release fine fibres which may have carcinogenic effects in the lungs If inhaled fibres can get into the body and cause damage to health Larger fibres or fragments of fibres can cause irritation itching of the skin th...

Page 32: ...means the tape is long lasting and quick to fit it sticks immediately To make it as easy to use as possible the tape comes with a paper liner which is removed prior to use N B Do not use tape on steel pipe only to seal the joint between the EPDM seal and the vapour wind barriers APPLICATION The tape is used to attach the EPDM seal to the vapour and or wind barriers Schiedel Chimney Systems Ltd doe...

Page 33: ...he the side plates are resting on top of the roof trusses as in Fig 1 or below the roof trusses in the case of Fig 2 The recommended position is always as per Fig 1 where circumstances allow this solution 2 The band should then be tightened using the nut and bolt provided 3 Using the holes pre drilled in the roof support band drill 3mm holes in the outer case of the chimney section drill bit shoul...

Page 34: ...essory is designed to support horizontal runs of the chimney from the roof or ceiling and offers adjustment from 130mm to 1115mm 1 Once the position of the ceiling support has been determined the section length of uni rax channel must be securely fixed to the roof or the ceiling using a method of attachment to ensure adequate attachment and support 2 All items are assembled as shown to attach the ...

Page 35: ... sealed This component should be sealed with the mastic sealant provided and MUST be used in conjunction with the storm collar supplied STORM COLLAR The storm collar should be sealed to the outer casing of the flue immediately above the flashing with the mastic sealant provided UNIFLASH This item which is manufactured with a malleable base and a silicone cone is used to provide a water tight flash...

Page 36: ...ade bends or tees within the system may be treated as being equal to two 45 bends see Document J of the Building Regulations issued October 1st 2010 TERMINAL TYPES On solid fuel appliances an open termination is normally recommended However in certain conditions rain caps or anti downdraught terminals may be used Rain caps and anti downdraught terminals are available in two versions with mesh spar...

Page 37: ...structure on the roof 1500mm Should not be used OUTLET SITING FOR SOLID FUEL APPLIANCES 50KW Point where flue passes through weather surface Notes 1 2 Clearance to flue outlet A At or within 600mm of the ridge At or within 600mm above the ridge B Elsewhere on the roof whether pitched or flat At least 2300mm horizontally from the nearest point on the weather surface and a at least 1000mm above the ...

Page 38: ...nsing boiler produces 1 to 1 5 litres of condensate per hour per 10kW of input This is a significant amount of acidic liquid which must be drained from the system Choose appropriate flue drainage components normally fitted at the base of the stack and close to the appliance outlet On high efficiency or on condensing systems a 3 slope on horizontal runs is advised using the appropriate 87 bend and ...

Page 39: ...uctural Locking Bands Offset Installation 45 with pair of Side Plates Structural Wall Band Structural Wall Band Max Offset Info in same plane Int Ø 80 300 X m 3 Y m 1 5 Distance between Lateral Supports Int Ø mm 80 100 130 150 180 200 230 250 300 A m 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 B m 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 25 C m 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 D m 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 ...

Page 40: ...ble Wall Band 60 300mm 3 3 3 Structural Wall Band 4 4 4 Extension for Structural Wall Band 4 4 4 Guy Wire Bracket 1 5 1 5 1 5 Roof Support above truss see Fig 1 p 19 6 6 6 Roof Support below truss see Fig 2 p 19 4 4 4 90 Tee Locking Band 22 18 18 93 Tee Locking Band 22 18 18 135 Tee Locking Band 15 10 10 Inspection Tee Round 22 18 18 Inspection Tee Rectangular 22 18 18 Component Weights Approximat...

Page 41: ...and approved by Schiedel Chimney Systems may be used Cleaning inspection of any chimney system should be carried out at least once a year along with maintenance of the appliance but it is recommended that chimneys serving solid fuel appliances be swept at least twice a year at the end of the heating season to remove any deposits which may have built up during the season and prior to the start of t...

Page 42: ...ls listings please refer to the HETAS Guide www hetas co uk In the event of a fault developing in the product due to defective materials or faulty manufacture Schiedel Chimney Systems undertake to replace the product only Schiedel Chimney Systems cannot accept liability nor take any responsibility for the installation building or redecorating costs or any other consequential losses arising If any ...

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