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Saeco Internationa Group

04 FUNCTIONAL PRINCIPLES 

TALEA / ODEA - LINE 

Ceramic coffee grinder

The coffee grinder is driven by a direct current 
motor (1) using a worm gear (2).
The worm (2) drives a plastic gear wheel (3) 
where the lower ceramic disc (4) and the 
copper pre-draw worm (5) is driven at the 
bottom.

Two magnets (6) are built into the drive gear. 
A Hall sensor is mounted on the bottom side 
of the housing that sends 2 pulses to the 
electronics using two magnets per rotation.

 

4.8. 

Coffee grinder

 

4.9. 

Dosing quantity control, coffee grinder blockage when machine is     

                               low on beans

Low bean quantity

If the machine is low on beans, it is detected 
from the speed difference (frequency Hall 
sensor pulses) of the grinder between its idle 
state and the bean grinding process.
If no beans are found in the grinder (idle 
state), the speed and therefore the frequency 
of the pulses is higher - small

 

t1 = “Beans low” message

.

If beans are in the grinder, this results in a 
reduced grinding speed due to the resistance 
that is generated by the beans in the grinding 
process and therefore, a greater 

t2 = no message displayed

.

t3 and t4 = This measurement is carried 
out when the grinding process slows 
down at the end.

Dosing quantity control

The dosing quantity is controlled using 
the recorded pulses (number of rotations 
proportional to the choose of aroma, mild, 
medium and strong).

Coffee grinder blockage

If external objects enter the grinder, the 
electronics detects the blockage from the missing 

fl ow and stops the grinder.

with beans n=50%

without beans 

n=50%

with beans 

n=100%

without beans 

n=100%

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Summary of Contents for ODEA

Page 1: ...Talea Odea Line All parts of this document are the property of Saeco International Group All rights reserved The manufac turer shall not accept responsibility for possible errors or omissions in this...

Page 2: ...es 1 3 1 1 Odea Go 2 3 1 2 Odea Giro Talea Giro 3 3 1 3 Talea Giro Plus 3 3 1 4 Talea Ring Ring Plus 4 3 1 5 Talea Touch 8 3 2 Use cleaning maintenance 12 3 3 Messages Troubleshooting 13 4 Functional...

Page 3: ...DIP switch setting 12 4 17 Cup lift 13 4 18 Milk Island 13 5 Service modality 5 1 1 Test mode Talea Giro and Odea 1 5 1 2 Special function mode Talea Giro and Odea 2 5 2 1 Test mode Talea Ring and Ri...

Page 4: ...valve multi way valve 6 7 8 Pump 7 7 9 Hose connections assembly 7 7 10 Coffee grinder 9 7 11 Grinders 10 7 12 Adjustment of coffee grinder 11 7 13 Cup lift 12 8 Notes 1 9 Water system diagrams Odea...

Page 5: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line nternational Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION...

Page 6: ...Saeco Service Center Interface for programming 1 3 Materials Description Comment Thermal conductance paste Temperature resistance 200 C Descaler Saeco descaler Fat solvent Personal choice Silicone gre...

Page 7: ...sult the specific exploded view of the machine on website THERMAL CARAFE Only for OOW repairs YES to consult the specific exploded view of the Thermal Carafe on website MILK ISLAND Only for OOW repair...

Page 8: ...1 6 1 External appliance components Coffee bean hopper Coffee bean hopper lid Funnel for ground coffee Service door Dreg drawer Brewing unit Residual water Socket for power cord Milk Island connection...

Page 9: ...roup 01 INTRODUCTION TALEA ODEA LINE Pump Unblocking filter Flowmetre Boiler Coffee grinder Power board Control board Electrical cup lift s motor Touch Ring Plus only Multi way valve not odea Go 1 6 2...

Page 10: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 2 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS...

Page 11: ...control Pump Ulka reciprocating piston type pump with thermal safety 100 C 48 W 230V 50 Hz Type EP5 approx 13 15 bar Safety valve Opens at approx 18 20 bar Water filter in tank Coffee grinder DC motor...

Page 12: ...fault factory setting Procedure 1 The temperature must be measured in the cup immediately after dispensing Cup has to be placed on a non metal surface using a thermocouple thermometer 2 The temperatur...

Page 13: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 3 OPERATING...

Page 14: ...appliance must be switched on for this procedure Descaling LED Flashing Start the descaling cycle Control to set how much coffee is dispensed into the cup Coffee dispensing key Flashing slowly 1 coffe...

Page 15: ...unit is missing dreg drawer has not been inserted coffee container cover has not been inserted service door is open rotary knob for opening the hot water steam is not in the right position Flashing r...

Page 16: ...been inserted coffee container cover has not been inserted service door is open rotary knob for opening the hot water steam is not in the right position Flashing rapidly Ventilate the water system Con...

Page 17: ...election Selection Powder coffee mild aroma medium aroma strong aroma Back to the previous level Turn to scroll through the menu levels and change the parameters Reset factory parameters To program th...

Page 18: ...larm Rinsing Cup warmer Ring Plus Time setting Ring Plus Aqua Prima Descaling Clean brewing unit Switch off time standby Timer switching time Restore settings factory settings Cancel Press the menu ke...

Page 19: ...press Temperature Prebrew low normal medium long high off 2 Machine settings 2 1 Language 8 languages 2 2 Water hardness 1 2 3 4 2 3 Signal alarms On Off 2 4 Water lter alarm On Off 2 5 Rinsing On Off...

Page 20: ...ate 3 2 Descaling Remaining water quantity Carry out immediately 3 3 Clean brewing unit Carry out immediately 4 Energy saving mode 4 1 Switch off time 15 180 minutes 4 2 Timer setting On Off 4 3 Monda...

Page 21: ...ing beverage settings Espresso Coffee and Large Coffee settings machine settings Language acoustic signals cup warmer and water set tings time date settings Time clock timer and standby settings maint...

Page 22: ...g surface alert and acoustic setting language display 1 2 4 water settings water hardness 3 4 water filter Off rinse On Press the Water hardness key 3 1 2 4 3 water hardness Carry out the settings wit...

Page 23: ...d normal strong preground Coffee capacity Machine settings 1 2 Machine settings Language display 1 2 1 Language 11 languages Contrast Acoustic signals and alarms 1 2 2 Machine ready On Off Key tone On...

Page 24: ...nutes after 1 hour after 3 hours Machine on off 1 3 4 Interval 1 Hours Minutes Interval 2 Hours Minutes Interval 3 Hours Minutes Day settings Select Maintenance settings 1 4 Maintenance settings Produ...

Page 25: ...er 15 21 dH approx every 6 weeks 60 litres approx every 3 months 120 litres 4 Very hard water over 21 dH approx every 4 weeks 30 litres approx every 6 weeks 60 litres Using the machine 1 Insert the li...

Page 26: ...emptied when the appliance is switched off the message is not reset Close side door Close the service door Fill water tank Fill the water tank Empty residual water tray Empty residual water tray Prime...

Page 27: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 4 FUNCTIONAL PRINCIPLES...

Page 28: ...a Odea Go Conventional water system Flowmetre cup capacity ventilation display Reciprocating piston type pump 13 15 bar Overpressure valve opening pressure 18 20 bar Boiler continuous ow heater 1300 W...

Page 29: ...caused by pressure the steam state overpressure is fed back to the fresh water tank The multi way valve opens selectively depending on the operating situation in the ow direction dispensing or against...

Page 30: ...ump is activated and the appliance is ventilated automatically Preheating the pipes If the coffee machine has not been used for a while or after each heating up phase the pump is activated during the...

Page 31: ...laufstutzen Pin 3 5 bar coffee dispensing valve Release valve 16 19 bar safety valve Overpressure valve safety valve As the multi way valve already opens at 3 5 bar in the flow direction it takes over...

Page 32: ...cycle 1 The coffee grinder starts the grinding process pulse controlled 2 The gearing mechanism brewing unit moves to the brewing position 3 Then the prebrewing begins brief pumping activity then a q...

Page 33: ...home position 1 2 MS1 MS2 4 5 Brewing unit s gear mechanism Temperature sensor An NTC is used as the temperature sensor If the NTC senses too high temperatures electronics decreases boiler s temperatu...

Page 34: ...sing a controllable cream valve Cream valve control High flow slow extraction The coffee can ow much easier when the SBS valve is open The pressure applied to the membrane remains comparatively low an...

Page 35: ...f the grinder between its idle state and the bean grinding process If no beans are found in the grinder idle state the speed and therefore the frequency of the pulses is higher small t1 Beans low mess...

Page 36: ...e value of the current consumption is within the range de ned for the Exceeded stress the coffee will be brewed and the grinding pulses will be decreased by 10 If the value of the current consumption...

Page 37: ...d If a drink cycle ends after the sensor has been triggered in the reserve then the message Water low continues to be displayed also the next time you request a drink Fresh water tank 4 11 Water level...

Page 38: ...with a display coffee can still be dispensed When the dreg drawer is emptied the counter actual grounds will be reseted after 5 seconds 4 14 Empty dreg drawer message Empty residual water tray messag...

Page 39: ...water that ows through the owmetre and shows the Display Descaling according to the pre speci ed quantity of water set via the hardness setting Filter on If the function limescale lter Aqua Prima is...

Page 40: ...motor lifting or lowering The end positions are monitored by two microswitches upper end switch 6 and lower end switch 7 1 3 5 6 7 4 2 4 17 Cup lift Milk Island Talea series only optional Function The...

Page 41: ...Clamp for fixing the Milk Island to the machine To dismantle unscrew the screws marked in the il lustration Cappucinatore cover Cappucinatore valve cover Vernay valve Insertion for the Cappucinatore v...

Page 42: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 5 SERVICE MODALITY...

Page 43: ...ors open flashing Bean hopper cover s reed switch missing flashing Flowmetre pulses when the pump is active flashing Microswitch of milk carafe presence hot water steam valve closed lit Water tank s s...

Page 44: ...the dosing quantity pulses by 5 pulses each setting range 60 150 standard 80 100 The LED lights up when the key is pressed If the value is at the minimum the LED no longer lights up or flashes when p...

Page 45: ...apacitive B Hot water steam valve Sensor pos Milk Island C Hot water steam valve Sensor pos Water steam D Milk Island adapter detected E Carafe microswitch F Cup lift bottom end switch G Cup lift top...

Page 46: ...wmetre pulses s ff Hot water Pump on ff Number of pulses sec approx 14 17 Test M4 Test Continuous flow heater cup warmer temperature display Test M4 4 Cup Heater Menu Cup warmer Cup warmer heats up No...

Page 47: ...100 Test M8 Autotest Test M8 time Self test Coffee Autotest Gearing mechanism test Grinder test Cup lift test Heater and sensor test At the end of the tests an acoustic signal tells you if the tests w...

Page 48: ...liveries since production 1 9 Total ml of Water ml Amount of water used in ml for the Hot Water program since production 2 Totalcounters 2 1 Water S L Descale N Current descaling counter counts the am...

Page 49: ...up Aroma pulses N 60 150 autodose from V 2 00 08 A dosage quantity adjustment should be carried out here up to V 2 00 08 From V 2 00 08 the value is corrected automatically by the autodose function de...

Page 50: ...il the message Empty dreg drawer counts the uses from 13 downwards 5 14 Grounds Warning 8 1 13 If the value in Grounds Left and Grounds Warning are identical e g 3 the message empty dreg drawer appear...

Page 51: ...s on the lower edge of the dis play to start up to three functions for each menu level t 1 Brewing unit next bu_current mA 3 bu_home OFF bu_work ON bu_present ON bu_dregdrawer ON bu_door ON bu go home...

Page 52: ...er_temp C cup heater boiler Temperature recorded by the temperature sensor Cup warmer heats up Continuous flow heater heats up no function pulses_counter delay_time msec bean_door bean_alarm grinder b...

Page 53: ...reg drawer message appears Running dreg counter increase the number of cycles reduce the number of cycles no function mild dose medium dose strong dose mild medium strong value up value down value tes...

Page 54: ...ext boiler_temp C 105 9 counter 7 4 pass start boiler_temp C start current boiler temperature Starts the steam out procedure no function no function boiler_temp C open knob to w st start current boile...

Page 55: ...rod Number of fi lters changed number of fi lter initialisations Cleaning cycles n of cleaning cycles Cleaning cycles carried out Brewing unit water since last cleaning Water since the last cleaning c...

Page 56: ...product total Product counters Settings Product settings D1 2 1A Product settings beverage settings espresso coffee long coffee prebrewing medium Prebrewing setting strong off temperature low Coffee...

Page 57: ...rmat select 3 Program Date format standby setting 15 min Standby 15 min after use 30 min Standby 30 min after use 1h Standby 1 hour after use 3h Standby 3 hours after use machine on off interval 1 h m...

Page 58: ...ved heater settings cup temperature 78 70 85 Coffee temperature in the cup coffee temp temp active 112 80 140 Boiler temp when coffee is dispensed temp inactive 105 80 140 Boiler temp when coffee is n...

Page 59: ...he start position TIMEOUT_RWD Time exceeded when returning to the start position WORK_WHILE_HOMING Activates the brewing position microswitch when mov ing to the start position 16 HOME_AND_WORK_PRESSE...

Page 60: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line nternational Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 6 STANDARD CONTROLS...

Page 61: ...when the appliance is open leak test 12 Assembly 13 End test according to the Test plan 14 Let steam out Winter 15 Exterior cleaning 16 Lubricating the brewing unit 17 Insulation test HG 701 18 Docum...

Page 62: ...until the cream separates The cream covering then has to re close completely Cream colour Hazel brown marbled Temperature Reading taken in coffee flow Temperature measuring device 84 C 4 C Grinding l...

Page 63: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line nternational Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 7 DISASSEMBLY...

Page 64: ...he bean hopper cover sensor Fig 1 Remove the cover of the coffee con tainer Unscrew the screw marked in the il lustration Remove the rotary knob from the hot water steam valve Fig 4 Fix the upper hous...

Page 65: ...wn Fig 2 Remove the screw shown not with Odea Fig 3 Remove the screws shown Fig 1 Separate the rear upper side part Fig 2 Grab the side part from underneath and remove 1 2 To disassemble the left side...

Page 66: ...7 3 Electronics 7 4 Boiler s pin 2 1 3 Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Remove the water channel cover Fig 2 Remove the screws 4 off shown Fig 3 During assembly both screws have to be tightened alternate...

Page 67: ...ug Fig 2 If one of the gear wheels is damaged replace both wheels If one of the microswitches is defective always replace both microswitches Fig 3 Gearing mechanism with 2 microswitches When mounting...

Page 68: ...semble the boiler 7 6 Boiler 1 2 Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Fig 2 1 Remove the screw shown 2 Release the hook and fold the unit upwards Fig 3 1 Loosen the cable tie 2 Loosen the boiler from the bra...

Page 69: ...Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Loosen the coffee dispenser bracket Fig 2 3 Loosen the boiler pin Loosen the boiler s bracket see section 7 6 Fig 1 and 2 Fig 4 1 Remove the screw shown Fig 5 Unhinge the...

Page 70: ...To disassemble the pump 7 8 Pump 1 Fig 1 Remove the pump and the pump bracket from the guide Fig 2 Remove the connecting bracket Fig 4 1 Disassembled pump unit 2 1 3 Fig 3 Loosen the hose clamp and re...

Page 71: ...Page 8 13 Saeco International Group 07 DISASSEMBLY TALEA ODEA LINE To replace the hoses Fig 1 To open the clamp place the pliers at the front Fig 2 Use pliers to squeeze the clamp...

Page 72: ...semble the coffee grinder 7 10 Coffee grinder 1 2 Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Loosen the motor mounting bracket A Remove the cover Fig 2 1 Loosen the cable tie Fig 3 When installing take care that t...

Page 73: ...evel setting axis and then turn the grinding disc support anticlockwise until it stops then remove it Fig 2 1 Turn the grinding disc anticlockwise out of the support Fig 3 Turn the grinding disc antic...

Page 74: ...Insert the centre piece with the flag A into the recess B Fig 2 Turn clockwise for a coarser setting and anticlockwise for a ner setting If beans are in the grinder turn 2 settings ner Grind and repe...

Page 75: ...assemble the electrical cup lift 7 13 Cup lift Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Loosen the motor mounting bracket A Remove the cover Fig 2 1 Loosen the cable tie Fig 3 When installing take care that the...

Page 76: ...ernational Group Page 13 13 TALEA ODEA LINE 07 DISASSEMBLY To disassemble the electrical cup lift Fig 1 Remove the screws shown Fig 2 Remove the securing clips Loosen the sensor cable Unhinge the cup...

Page 77: ...CHAPTER 8 NOTES Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line...

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Page 80: ...Saeco International Group Talea Odea Line CHAPTER 9 WATER SYSTEM DIAGRAMS...

Page 81: ...Safety valve 18 20 Lined faced silicone tube Lined faced silicone tube Lined faced silicone tube Steam Steam water dispensing Flow meter Water tank Silicone tube Silicone tube Boiler 1300 W Pump Pipe...

Page 82: ...aced silicone tube Lined faced silicone tube licone tube Boiler s pin Coffee dispensing Brewing unit Hot water steam faucet Pipe fitting of Boiler s pin Dispensing valve...

Page 83: ...Giro Plus Giro Flow meter Steam Steam water dispensing Lined faced silicone tube Lined f Lined faced silicone tube Lined faced si Water draining Water tank Silicone tube Pump Boiler 1300 W Silicone t...

Page 84: ...silicone tube Hot water steam faucet Boiler s pin Brewing unit Coffee dispensing Dispensing valve Dispensing coffee valve 3 5 bar Drain valve Safety valve 18 20 Lined faced silicone tube Pipe fitting...

Page 85: ...ter Water tank Silicone tube Lined faced silicone tube Steam Steam water dispensing Lined faced si Water draining Lined faced silicone tube Lined faced silicone tube Pump Silicone tube Silicone tube B...

Page 86: ...nsing coffee valve 3 5 bar Safety valve 18 20 Drain valve Pipe fitting of water drain licone tube Lined faced silicone tube Silicone tube Brewing unit SBS valve Coffee dispensing Pipe fitting of water...

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