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Installation and commissioning

Thermo-Hygrometer KNX TH65-AP

• Version: 27.01.2020 • Technical changes and errors excepted.

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Do not use the device if it is damaged.

•

Take the device or system out of service and secure it against
unintentional use, if it can be assumed, that risk-free operation is no
longer guaranteed.

The device is only to be used for its intended purpose. Any improper modification or
failure to follow the operating instructions voids any and all warranty and guarantee
claims.

After unpacking the device, check it immediately for possible mechanical damage. If it
has been damaged in transport, inform the supplier immediately.

The device may only be used as a fixed-site installation; that means only when assem-
bled and after conclusion of all installation and operational start-up tasks and only in
the surroundings designated for it.

Elsner Elektronik is not liable for any changes in norms and standards which may occur
after publication of these operating instructions.

2.2. Location

The sensor is designed for surface mounting. When selecting an installation location,
please ensure that the measurement results are affected as little as possible by exter-
nal influences. Possible sources of interference include:
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Direct sunlight

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Drafts from windows and doors

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Warming or cooling of the building structure on which the sensor is mounted,
e.g. due to sunlight, heating or cold water pipes

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Connection lines which lead from warmer or colder areas to the sensor

Temperature variations from such sources of interference must be corrected in the ETS
in order to ensure the specified accuracy of the sensor (temperature offset).

For outdoor installation it must be ensured that a 60 cm gap is left below the sensor in
order to prevent it from being snowed during snowfall.

The sensor must be mounted vertically. The measurement probe and the cable outlet
must point downwards.

2.3. Notes on mounting and commissioning

Do not open the temperature sensor if penetration of water (rain) is likely: Only a cou-
ple of drops could damage the electronic.

Do not dip the measuring tip (metal sleeve with sensor) in water.

Avoid the bedewing of the device. For critical applications, where condensate forma-
tion is expectable, please ask Elsner Elektronik for customized solutions.

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Summary of Contents for 70184

Page 1: ...EN Installation and Adjustment KNXTH65 AP Thermo Hygrometer Item number 70184 ...

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Page 3: ...g of the device at the bus 6 4 Maintenance 7 5 Transfer protocol 8 5 1 List of all communication objects 8 6 Setting parameters 13 6 1 Behaviour on power failure restoration of power 13 6 2 General settings 13 6 3 Measured values Temperature humidity 13 6 4 Threshold values Temperature humidity 14 6 4 1 Threshold value 1 2 3 4 Temperature humidity 14 6 5 Temperature PI control 16 6 5 1 Heating con...

Page 4: ...leshooting of the device must only be carried out by a competent electrician Safety advice Safety advice for working on electrical connections components etc DANGER indicates an immediately hazardous situation which will lead to death or severe injuries if it is not avoided WARNING indicates a potentially hazardous situation which may lead to death or severe injuries if it is not avoided CAUTION i...

Page 5: ...of dew point Mixed values from own measured values and external values proportions can be set in percentage PI controller for heating one or two step and cooling one or two step depending on temperature PI controller for ventilation depending on humidity Dehumidify humidify one step or dehumidify one or two step Threshold values can be adjusted per parameter or via communication objects 4 AND and ...

Page 6: ...e free of voltage and take precautions against accidental switching on Ambient temperature Operation 25 80 C Storage 55 105 C avoid bedewing Operating voltage KNX bus voltage Bus current max 5 5 mA max 9 mA when programming LED is active Data output KNX bus terminal plug BCU type Own micro controller PEI type 0 Group addresses max 184 Allocations max 184 Communication objects 110 Measurement range...

Page 7: ...ace mounting When selecting an installation location please ensure that the measurement results are affected as little as possible by exter nal influences Possible sources of interference include Direct sunlight Drafts from windows and doors Warming or cooling of the building structure on which the sensor is mounted e g due to sunlight heating or cold water pipes Connection lines which lead from w...

Page 8: ... After the bus voltage has been applied the device will enter an initialisation phase last ing a few seconds During this phase no information can be received or sent via the bus 3 Addressing of the device at the bus The device is supplied with the bus address 15 15 255 You can program another ad dress into the ETS by overwriting the 15 15 255 address or by teaching via the pro gramming button Fig ...

Page 9: ...from the voltage supply for servicing and cleaning The device must regularly be checked for dirt twice a year and cleaned if necessary In case of severe dirt the sensor may not work properly anymore ATTENTION The device can be damaged if significant volumes of water penetrate the housing Do not clean with high pressure cleaners or steam jets ...

Page 10: ... Reset min max temperature value Input 1 017 C W 7 Temperature sensor defect Output 1 001 C R T 9 Temp threshold value 1 Absolute value Input Output 9 001 C R W T U 10 Temp threshold value 1 1 0 Input 1 006 C W 11 Temp threshold value 1 Switching output Output 1 001 C R T 12 Temp threshold value 1 Switching output block Input 1 006 C W 13 Temp threshold value 2 Absolute value Input Output 9 001 C ...

Page 11: ...daytime Heating 1 0 Input 1 002 C W 30 Temp controller Setpoint daytime Cooling Input Output 9 001 C R W T U 31 Temp controller Setpoint daytime Cooling 1 0 Input 1 002 C W 32 Temp controller Control variable heating level 1 Output 5 001 C R T 33 Temp controller Control variable heating level 2 Output 5 001 C R T 34 Temp controller Control variable heating level 2 Output 1 001 C R T 35 Temp contro...

Page 12: ...1 017 C W 52 Minimum humidity reading Output 9 007 C R T 53 Maximum humidity reading Output 9 007 C R T 54 Reset min max humidity value Input 1 017 C W 55 Humidity threshold value 1 Abso lute value Input Output 9 007 C R W T U 56 Humidity threshold value 1 1 0 Input 1 006 C W 57 Humidity threshold value 1 Switching output Output 1 001 C R T 58 Humidity threshold value 1 Switching output block Inpu...

Page 13: ...4 005 C R T 76 Absolute humidity g m Output 14 005 C R T 77 Ambient climate status 1 com fortable 0 uncomfortable Output 1 006 C R T 78 Logic input 1 Input 1 006 C W 79 Logic input 2 Input 1 006 C W 80 Logic input 3 Input 1 006 C W 81 Logic input 4 Input 1 006 C W 82 Logic input 5 Input 1 006 C W 83 Logic input 6 Input 1 006 C W 84 Logic input 7 Input 1 006 C W 85 Logic input 8 Input 1 006 C W 86 ...

Page 14: ...it output B Output 5 010 C R T 101 OR logic 2 1 bit output 1 001 C R T 102 OR logic 2 8 bit output A Output 5 010 C R T 103 OR logic 2 8 bit output B Output 5 010 C R T 104 OR logic 3 1 bit output 1 001 C R T 105 OR logic 3 8 bit output A Output 5 010 C R T 106 OR logic 3 8 bit output B Output 5 010 C R T 107 OR logic 4 1 bit output 1 001 C R T 108 OR logic 4 8 bit output A Output 5 010 C R T 109 ...

Page 15: ...t settings are device specific Please ensure that the following settings are selected for the KNX TH65 AP Set the basic data transfer characteristics and select whether or not malfunction ob jects should be sent 6 3 Measured values Temperature humidity The settings options for temperature and readings are the same Use parameters and objects for the humidity sensor Yes Type of logic Logic for tempe...

Page 16: ...tivate the threshold values that you want to use here The KNX TH65 AP thermal hygrometer provides four threshold values for temperature and two threshold values for air humidity 6 4 1 Threshold value 1 2 3 4 Temperature humidity The settings options for temperature and threshold values are the same Threshold value Set the threshold values directly in the application program using parameters or de ...

Page 17: ...estored Switching output Set the behaviour of the switching output when a threshold value is exceeded under cut The output switching delay can be set using objects or directly as a parameter Threshold value setpoint using Parameter Communication objects Temperature Threshold value in 0 1 C Humidity Threshold value in RH 300 800 200 0 100 70 Hysteresis of the threshold value in 0 50 20 Threshold va...

Page 18: ... 5 s 10 s 30 s 2 h Use switching output block No Yes Analysis of the blocking object At value 1 block At value 0 release At value 0 block At value 1 release Blocking object value before first call 0 1 Switching output behaviour On blocking Do not send message send 0 send 1 On release with 2 seconds release delay Dependent on the Switching output sends setting Switching output sends on change Do no...

Page 19: ...ce Type of control Single level heating Dual level heating Single level cooling Dual level cooling Single level heating single level cooling Dual level heating single level cooling Dual level heating dual level cooling Behaviour of the blocking object with value 1 Blocking regulation 0 Releasing regulation 0 Blocking regulation 1 Releasing regulation Send control variable on change on change and p...

Page 20: ...oint cooling in 0 1 C 300 800 Specified setpoint using Communication object The last communicated value should not be retained be retained after power restoration be retained after power restoration and programming not to be used for first commissioning Start setpoint heating in 0 1 C valid until first call only if the last retained value is not retained or retained after power restora tion 300 80...

Page 21: ... the set point value In case of a short reset time the control responds with a fast increase of the control variable In case of a long reset time the control responds somewhat less urgently and needs longer until the necessary control variable for the setpoint value deviation is reached You should set the time appropriate to the heating system at this point observe man ufacturer s instructions Now...

Page 22: ... select whether the control variable of the 2nd level is a 1 bit object on off or an 8 bit object on with percentage off Control type PI control Setting of the controller by Controller parameter specified applications Application Warm water heating Floor heating Convection unit Electric heating Maximum control variable is reached at setpoint actual difference of in C Warm water heating 5 Floor hea...

Page 23: ...the setpoint value which reaches maximum variable value i e the point at which maximum cooling power is activated The reset time shows how quickly the controller responds to deviations from the set point value In case of a short reset time the control responds with a fast increase of the control variable In case of a long reset time the control responds somewhat less urgently and needs longer unti...

Page 24: ...hold range If separate control variables are used select whether the control variable of the 2nd level is a 1 bit object on off or an 8 bit object on with percentage off When blocked the control variable shall not be sent send a specific value Value in if a value is sent 0 100 Control type PI control Setting of the controller by Controller parameter specified applications Application Cooling ceili...

Page 25: ...ction for object value 1 active 0 inactive 0 active 1 inactive Activation object value before first call 0 1 Specified setpoint using Parameter Communication object Specified setpoint using Parameter Setpoint heating in 0 1 C if the heating regulator is being used 300 800 180 Setpoint cooling in 0 1 C if the cooling regulator is being used 300 800 260 Specified setpoint using Communication object ...

Page 26: ... in 0 1 C valid until first call if the cooling regulator is being used and only if the last retained value is not retained or retained after power restora tion 300 800 Limitation of object value C min r n in 0 1 C 300 800 Limitation of object value C max r n in 0 1 C 300 800 Type of setpoint change Absolute value Increase Decrease Interval only when increasing decreasing 0 1 C 0 2 C 0 3 C 0 4 C 0...

Page 27: ...value Behaviour of the blocking object with value 1 Block 0 release 0 block 1 release Blocking object value before first call 0 1 Specified setpoint using Parameter Communication object Specified setpoint using Parameter Setpoint in 0 100 Specified setpoint using Communication object The last communicated value should not be retained be retained after power restoration be retained after power rest...

Page 28: ...me the control responds somewhat less urgently and needs longer until the necessary control variable for the setpoint deviation is reached You should set the time appropriate for the humidification dehumidification system at this point note manufacturer instructions Now specify what should be sent when the control is blocked On release the control variable follows the rule again 6 7 Dewpoint The K...

Page 29: ...ia objects is ignored During initial commissioning an offset must be defined which will be valid until the first call with a new offset For units which have already been taken into service the last communicated offset can be used A set offset will be retained until a new value or a change is transferred The current value is saved in EEPROM so that this is retained in the event of a power supply fa...

Page 30: ...ically on change to 1 and periodically on change to 0 and periodically Send periodically every if sent periodically 5 s 10 s 30 s 2 h Use switching output block No Yes Analysis of the blocking object At value 1 block At value 0 release At value 0 block At value 1 release Blocking object value before first call 0 1 Switching output behaviour On blocking Do not send message send 0 send 1 On release ...

Page 31: ...tern Define the comfort field by setting minimum and maximum values for temperature and humidity The set standard values correspond to DIN 1946 Use absolute humidity No Yes Send pattern never periodically on change on change and periodically On change of if sent on change 2 5 10 25 50 Send periodically every if sent periodically 5 s 10 s 30 s 2 h Use comfort field No Yes Send pattern retained neve...

Page 32: ...ing options are available for AND and OR logic Each logic output may transmit one 1 bit or two 8 bit objects Determine what the out put should send if logic 1 and 0 Logici input communication objects do not release release AND logic 1 not active active AND logic not active active AND logic 4 not active active OR logic 1 not active active OR logic not active active OR logic 4 not active active 1 2 ...

Page 33: ...and periodically on change of logic to 0 and periodically Send periodically every if sent periodically 5 s 10 s 30 s 2 h Do not use Communication object logic input 1 Communication object logic input 1 inverted Communication object logic input 2 Communication object logic input 2 inverted Communication object logic input 3 Communication object logic input 3 inverted Communication object logic inpu...

Page 34: ...erted Temperature threshold value 4 Temperature threshold value 4 inverted Humidity threshold value 1 Humidity threshold value 1 inverted Humidity threshold value 2 Humidity threshold value 2 inverted Coolant temperature threshold value Coolant temperature threshold value inverted Room temperature is comfortable Room temperature is uncomfortable Sensor malfunction Sensor malfunction inverted AND l...

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