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Manual 2100-719 

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TROUBLESHOOTING  GE  ECM

 MOTORS

CAUTION:

Disconnect power from unit before removing or replacing 
connectors, or servicing motor.  To avoid electric shock from 
the motor’s capacitors, disconnect power and wait at least 5 
minutes before opening motor.

Symptom

 

Cause/Procedure

Motor rocks slightly 

• 

This is normal start-up for ECM

when starting

Motor won’t start 

• 

Check blower turns by hand

• No movement 

• Check power at motor

 

• Check low voltage (24 Vac R to C) at motor

 

• Check low voltage connections

 

  (G, Y, W, R, C) at motor

 

• Check for unseated pins in connectors on  

 

   motor harness

 

• Test with a temporary jumper between R - G

 

• Check motor for tight shaft

 

• Perform motor/control replacement check

 • 

Perform Moisture Check

• Motor rocks,  

• Check for loose or compliant motor mount

  but won’t start 

• Make sure blower wheel is tight on shaft

 

• Perform motor/control replacement check

Motor oscillates up 

• It is normal for motor to oscillate with no 

load 

& down while being 

  on shaft

tested off of blower

Motor starts, but
runs erratically

• Varies up and down 

• Check line voltage for variation or “sag”

  or intermittent 

• Check low voltage connections

 

  (G, Y, W, R, C) at motor, unseated pins in 

 

  motor harness connectors

 

• Check “Bk” for erratic CFM command (in 

 

   variable-speed applications)

 

• Check out system controls, Thermostat

 • 

Perform Moisture Check

• “Hunts” or “puffs” at 

• Does removing panel or filter reduce 

  high CFM (speed) 

  “puffing”?

 

 - Reduce restriction

 

 - Reduce max airflow

• Stays at low CFM 

• Check low voltage (Thermostat) wires and

  despite system call 

  connections

  for cool or heat CFM 

• Verify fan is not in delay mode; wait until 

 

   delay complete

 

• “R” missing/not connected at motor

 

• Perform motor/control replacement check

• Stays at high CFM 

• “R” missing/not connected at motor

 

• Is fan in delay mode? - wait until delay time

 

  complete

 

• Perform motor/control replacement check

• Blower won’t shut off 

• 

Current leakage from controls into G, Y or W?

 

  Check for Triac switched thermostat or solid-

 

  state relay

Excessive noise

 

• Determine if it’s air noise, cabinet, duct or

 

  motor noise; interview customer, if necessary

• Air noise 

• High static creating high blower speed?

 

 - Is airflow set properly?

 

 - Does removing filter cause blower to slow

 

   down?  Check filter 

 

 - Use low-pressure drop filter

 

 - Check/correct duct restrictions

Symptom

 

Cause/Procedure

• Noisy blower or cabinet

 • 

Check for loose blower housing, panels, etc.

 

• High static creating high blower speed?

 

  - Check for air whistling through seams in

 

     ducts, cabinets or panels

 

  - Check for cabinet/duct deformation

• “Hunts” or “puffs” at

 • 

Does removing panel or filter reduce

   high CFM (speed)

 

   “puffing”?

 

  - Reduce restriction

 

  - Reduce max. airflow

Evidence of Moisture

• Motor failure or  

• Replace motor and 

Perform Moisture Check

  malfunction has occurred
  

and moisture is present

• Evidence of moisture 

 

• 

Perform Moisture Check

  present inside air mover

Do

 

Don’t

• Check out motor, controls,

 • 

Automatically assume the motor is bad.

  wiring and connections
  thoroughly before replacing
  motor
• Orient connectors down so  • Locate connectors above 7 and 4 o’clock
  water can’t get in 

   positions

 - Install “drip loops”
• Use authorized motor and 

• Replace one motor or control model # with

  model #’s for replacement     another (unless an authorized replacement)

• Keep static pressure to a  

• Use high pressure drop filters some have 

½"

  

minimum: 

   H20 drop!

 - Recommend high 

• Use restricted returns

   efficiency, low static filters

 - Recommend keeping filters

   clean.
 - Design ductwork for min.
   static, max. comfort
 - Look for and recommend
   ductwork improvement,
   where necessary

• Size the equipment wisely 

• Oversize system, then compensate with low

 

    airflow

• Check orientation before 

• Plug in power connector backwards

  inserting motor connectors  • Force plugs 

Moisture Check

• Connectors are oriented “down” (or as recommended by equipment
  manufacturer)
• Arrange harness with “drip loop” under motor

• Is condensate drain plugged?

• Check for low airflow (too much latent capacity)

• Check for undercharged condition
• Check and plug leaks in return ducts, cabinet

Comfort Check

• Check proper airflow settings

• Low static pressure for lowest noise
• Set low continuous-fan CFM
• Use humidistat and 2-speed cooling units
• Use zoning controls designed for ECM that regulate CFM

• Thermostat in bad location?

Summary of Contents for C24H2-A

Page 1: ...ION INSTRUCTIONS C24H2 A C24H2 B C30H2 A C30H2 B C30H2 C C36H1 A C36H1 B C36H1 C C42H1 A C42H1 B C42H1 C Bard Manufacturing Company Inc Bryan Ohio 43506 www bardhvac com Manual 2100 719 Supersedes NEW...

Page 2: ...H 22 Table 7 Indoor Blower Performance 23 Getting Other Information and Publications 3 Wall Mount General Information Wall Mount Model Nomenclature 4 Shipping Damage 4 General 4 Duct Work 5 Filters 5...

Page 3: ...nter and Summer Air Conditioning Duct Design for Residential ACCA Manual D Winter and Summer Air Conditioning and Equipment Selection FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT THESE PUBLISHERS ACCA Air Conditionin...

Page 4: ...o methods of Air Conditioning Contractors of America ACCA The air duct should be installed in accordance with the Standards of the National Fire Protection Association for the Installation of Air Cond...

Page 5: ...is used Contact distributor or factory for ordering information If using a return air filter grille filters must be of sufficient size to allow a maximum velocity of 400 fpm NOTE If no return air duc...

Page 6: ...rs on the lag bolts 7 Secure rain flashing to wall and caulk across entire length of top See Figures 3A 3B 8 For additional mounting rigidity the return air and supply air frames or collars can be dri...

Page 7: ...s of Basic Unit for Architectural Installation Requirements Nominal MODEL WIDTH W DEPTH D HEIGHT H SUPPLY RETURN A B C B E F G I J K L M N O P Q R S T C24H2 C30H2 38 200 17 125 70 563 7 88 27 88 13 88...

Page 8: ...LEARANCE ON ALL RAIN FLASHING COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS DUCT TOP FLASHING AT TIME OF INSTALLATION 1 4 MIN CLEARANCE FROM REQUIRED DIMENSIONS TO MAINTAIN OPENING ENTIRE LENGTH OF TOP MATERIALS NOTES OF CAU...

Page 9: ...URE 1 SUPPLY AIR IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT A BEAD OF OPENING Right Side View RAIN FLASHING SILICONE CAULKING BE PLACED BEHIND RECOMMENDED 1 CLEARANCE FROM THE SIDE MOUNTING FLANGES AND UNDER TOP FLASHING...

Page 10: ...This is required for the first 3 feet of ducting It is important to insure that the 1 4 inch minimum spacing is maintained at all points Failure to do this could result in overheating the combustible...

Page 11: ...R FACTORY SUPPLIED RAIN FLASHING SUPPLY AIR MIS 548 A SIDE VIEW I A C K E 1 000 B 1 000 SUPPLY DUCT OVER FRAME INTERIOR FINISHED WALL ALL AROUND DUCT FRAMING MATERIAL EXTERIOR FINISH WALL OPENING FOR...

Page 12: ...WALL OPENING W GRILLE SUPPLY DUCT MAYBE LOCATED IN AN ATTIC OR BELOW CEILING RAFTERS AS SHOWN CEILING RAIN RETURN AIR SLEEVE WALL SUPPLY AIR DUCT RAFTERS RAFTERS RETURN AIR OPENING W GRILLE RAIN FALSE...

Page 13: ...cess panel straight out This tab will now line up with the slot in the door When shut a padlock may be placed through the hole in the tab preventing entry See Start Up section for important informatio...

Page 14: ...iple leaks and recharges R 410A refrigerant is close to being an azeotropic blend it behaves like a pure compound or single component refrigerant The remaining refrigerant charge in the system may be...

Page 15: ...However reverse operation for over one hour may have a negative impact on the bearing due to oil pump out NOTE If compressor is allowed to run in reverse rotation for several minutes the compressor s...

Page 16: ...ump control will place the system in the defrost mode During the defrost mode the refrigerant cycle switches back to the cooling cycle the outdoor motor stops electric heaters are energized and hot ga...

Page 17: ...res the control will then monitor the low pressure switch input normally to make sure that the switch is closed during Y operation High Pressure Switch Operation The control has a built in lockout sys...

Page 18: ...RV C and B C 1 Check control circuit wiring 2 Replace heat pump control Reversing valve solenoid coil defective Check for open or shorted coil Replace solenoid coil Unit will not go into defrost heati...

Page 19: ...36 29157 74 10762 112 4464 1 88139 37 28355 75 10501 113 4367 0 85371 38 27577 76 10247 114 4274 1 82699 39 26823 77 10000 115 4182 2 80121 40 26092 78 9760 116 4093 3 77632 41 25383 79 9526 117 4006...

Page 20: ...th this refrigerant charge quantity The following pressure tables show nominal pressures for the units Since many installation specific situations can affect the pressure readings this information sho...

Page 21: ...GH SIDE 133 302 133 321 133 341 134 365 136 391 137 418 138 449 141 481 143 516 146 553 80 DB 67 WB LOW SIDE HIGH SIDE 142 310 142 329 142 350 143 374 145 401 146 429 148 460 151 493 153 529 156 567 8...

Page 22: ...60 1 1 22 30 10 10 A04 1 42 50 8 10 AS8 1 48 50 8 10 AF8 1 or 2 63 70 6 8 22 42 30 45 10 8 10 10 C24H2 B0Z 230 208 60 3 1 15 20 12 12 B06 1 33 35 8 10 B09 1 42 45 8 10 C30H2 A0Z 230 208 60 1 1 23 30 1...

Page 23: ...hese units are equipped with a variable speed ECM indoor motor that automatically adjusts itself to maintain approximately the same rate of indoor airflow in both heating cooling dry wet coil conditio...

Page 24: ...it s air noise cabinet duct or motor noise interview customer if necessary Air noise High static creating high blower speed Is airflow set properly Does removing filter cause blower to slow down Check...

Page 25: ...is correct for your application Refer to the manufacturer s authorized replacement list USING THE WRONG CONTROL WILL RESULT IN IMPROPER OR NO BLOWER OPERATION Orient the control module so that the 3 w...

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