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Support log.

Development support

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Provide network SDK

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Provide client demo source code

USB-related function

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Add USB device [Format], [New Folder], [Delete File] and [Backup] functions.

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Backup segment, Multi-backup, all day backup (default in first divisional root

directory).

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Record files in USB devices could be played.

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Add log backup function.

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Add device configuration backup function.

1.4 Typical Application

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Страница 1: ...for purchasing our embedded Net DVR This manual is applicable for DS 8700 series Net DVR Please read this User Manual carefully to ensure that you can use the device correctly and safely The contents...

Страница 2: ...1 Main Menu Items 22 3 3 2 Menu Operation 23 3 4 Character Input 26 Chapter4 Basic Operation Guide 27 4 1 Power on 27 4 2 Live View 28 4 3 Login 32 4 4 PTZ Control 33 4 5 Manual Record 35 4 6 Playbac...

Страница 3: ...1 PTZ Connection 98 5 14 2 PTZ Settings 98 5 14 3 PTZ Control 100 5 14 4 Preset Setup 100 5 14 5 Sequence Setup 101 5 14 6 Tour Setup 103 5 15 RS232 Setup 104 5 15 1 Console Mode 104 5 15 2 Transparen...

Страница 4: ...nnector Definition 122 1 RS485 Connecting 122 2 UTP Network Connecting 123 3 RS232 Connecting 125 Appendix C Specifications 128 Appendix D Quick Search 130 Appendix E Troubleshooting 132 Appendix F Pr...

Страница 5: ...ng amplifiers that produce heat 9 Do not defeat the safety purpose of the polarized or grounding type plug A polarized plug has two blades with one wider than the other A grounding type plug has two b...

Страница 6: ...ry Never push objects of any kind into this unit through openings as they may touch dangerous voltage points or short out parts that could result in a fire or electric shock Never spill liquid of any...

Страница 7: ...ckage for visible damage If any items appear to have been damaged in shipment notify the shipping company Unpack carefully This is electronic equipment and should be handled with care to prevent damag...

Страница 8: ...RTOS combining the most advanced technology in Information Industry such as video and audio encoding decoding hard disk record and TCP IP The firmware is burned in the flash more stable and reliable...

Страница 9: ...multi area motion detection Support OSD and changeable OSD position Support LOGO and changeable LOGO position Local functions Record Support multiple record type including real time manual record mot...

Страница 10: ...485 keyboard Support multi level user management Network Support TCP UDP RTP Multicast for network preview Support PPPoE for board band dialup Support remote parameters setup Alarm information can be...

Страница 11: ...ed function Add USB device Format New Folder Delete File and Backup functions Backup segment Multi backup all day backup default in first divisional root directory Record files in USB devices could be...

Страница 12: ...authorized installation of hard disks may result in permanent damage of the disk and the recorder and is at own risk Caution When working with electrostatic sensitive devices such as a hard disk or th...

Страница 13: ...to enter into DVR main menu Go to the Utilities menu and choose Hard disk to format the hard disks Check if all installed disks are detected by the DVR and if the capacity is OK Choose Format and sel...

Страница 14: ...14 The installation of HDD is complete...

Страница 15: ...for audio 5 VGA interface VGA display 6 RS 232 Connect RS 232 devices Refer to Appendix B for pin definition Network interface Connect network devices Refer to Appendix B for pin definition 7 USB Int...

Страница 16: ...larm input dry node Alarm output connection Connect with DC device Connect with AC device Alarm input port dry node G GND Connect the GND of sensor 1 8 Alarm input support normal open normal close 0 R...

Страница 17: ...17 2 5 Powering up 1 Switch on all connected equipment 2 Connect the power cable to the unit 3 Switch on the power...

Страница 18: ...with power indicator lamp Green means DVR is working Red means DVR is powered off No light means no power is supplied 4 State Lamps READY DVR is ready STATUS Green means you can use IR remote control...

Страница 19: ...preview mode display or hide the channel status bar PREV 1 Multi screen preview switch 2 Switch menu mode into live view 3 FOCUS in PTZ mode INFO ZOOM in PTZ control Main Aux 1 Switch main aux video...

Страница 20: ...panel 5 A Same as A key of front panel 6 REC Same as REC key of front panel 7 PLAY Same as PLAY key of front panel 8 INFO Same as INFO key of front panel 9 VOIP Same as Main Aux key of front panel 10...

Страница 21: ...in Display menu and then press ENTER key If the STATUS lamp of DVR front panel is turned into green it means you can use IR controller to operate this DVR Stop using IR controller When IR controller s...

Страница 22: ...d response setup Recording Overwrite Stop recording Recording parameters setup Record schedule PreRecord time PostRecord time Network DVR IP address DNS IP Multicast IP address Remote host IP and port...

Страница 23: ...and password The default user name is admin and password is 12345 Main Menu Description The main menu interface is following There is one small rectangle frame named Active Frame It can be moved from...

Страница 24: ...example on the right side of Select Camera there is a list box for you to select one camera c Edit Box This is for you to input characters Press EDIT key to enter into edit status you can input chara...

Страница 25: ...25 How to exit menu Press PREV or ESC key to exit menu and return to preview mode...

Страница 26: ...tom of screen the input status is appeared Here it means you can press numeric keys to input digital number Press A key to change input methods You can select number Uppercase Lowercase or Symbol Uppe...

Страница 27: ...red just press POWER button to start DVR When DVR is started POWER lamp is in green On the monitor or VGA display DSP and HDD initialization process will be shown The first line represents DSP initia...

Страница 28: ...erring to 5 5 In the screen it will display alarm icon record and alarm status of each camera Record and alarm status will switch over automatically Alarm icon only appears when alarm happens Press bu...

Страница 29: ...ecord status is following Icon Icon Color Status Description White No video signal Yellow Video input Pink Manual recording Green Continuous recording Blue Motion detect recording Red External alarm r...

Страница 30: ...ton used for refresh present alarm information Camera alarm status is following Icon Icon Color Status Description White Video signal lost Yellow View tampering alarm Pink Motion External alarm Green...

Страница 31: ...hannels press two numeric keys to switch to corresponding channel For example press 0 2 to preview 2nd camera and press 1 2 keys to preview 12th camera Press EDIT key to manual sequence preview You ca...

Страница 32: ...create 15 users and define their user rights Login dialog is following Use keys to select one user press key to enter into Password edit box input corresponding password press ENTER key to exit edit...

Страница 33: ...re is PTZ Control prompt in the PTZ control interface The displayed camera name means which channel s PTZ is under control For example Camera 01 means you are controlling the 1st camera PTZ Select cha...

Страница 34: ...VR will call the corresponding preset number Repeat pressing REC SHOT key and press the preset number DVR will call that preset number When you exit PTZ control mode the camera will stay at the curren...

Страница 35: ...as following parts channel number channel status start stop record start all and stop all buttons Channel List the channel number that DVR has Status Channel work status has 4 cases means idle Green m...

Страница 36: ...36 Exit manual record Press ESC key to enter into preview mode Press MENU key to enter into main menu Press PLAY key to enter into playback menu Press PTZ key to enter into PTZ control mode...

Страница 37: ...to Playback interface directly The Play back interface is different when you enable or disable the multi playback function Multi playback Enabled Multi playback Disabled Multi playback Enabled If DVR...

Страница 38: ...corded stream directly based on the time section Select Page In the file list box each page will only display 8 files If the matched files are more than 8 you can select page to list other files 500 p...

Страница 39: ...t the detail time Search Search the matched recorded files and display them in the list box If there is not matched file a corresponding dialog box will be pop up Play by Time Playback the recorded st...

Страница 40: ...e mp4 Backup You can select all channels files and Backup all recorded files Two kinds of playback mode 1 Search and playback file In the playback interface you can select main channel Slave Chan Mult...

Страница 41: ...annel is selected these two channels can be playback synchronously If DVR can not find the matched files a message dialog will be pop up 2 Playback by Time In the playback interface select main channe...

Страница 42: ...to record the video for backup Display Hide the control bar It will prompt a blue area you can drag this area by mouse and double click it to enlarge it to full screen Playback when multi playback ena...

Страница 43: ...Frame by Frame Pause Continue Press ENTER to pause continue playback If played frame by frame Press ENTER to play one frame Copy segment EDIT Exit ESC Playback switch When in multi channel playback p...

Страница 44: ...If backup device is not connected correctly or DVR do not detect the backup device Device Error message dialog will be pop up Please ask administrator for more information Backup the files that match...

Страница 45: ...and select the corresponding backup device Step 4 Start and finish backup Move Active Frame to device button and press ENTER key to enter into USB device menu Select a backup folder and click Backup...

Страница 46: ...ck by time 2 Press EDIT key to start selecting the current playback image and press EDIT again to stop selecting This segment is selected 3 You can repeat step 2 to select many segments 30 segments ca...

Страница 47: ...s are playback synchronously In such case each channel can backup 30 segments so 60 segments can be backup for two channels Playback backup video files You can use our file player software to playback...

Страница 48: ...nto Utilities menu move Active Frame to Power Off button and enter into power off dialog press Confirm to shut down the DVR Use POWER key of front panel or IR controller Press POWER key for above 3 se...

Страница 49: ...the POWER lamp is in red Shut down DVR abnormally Use the power switch of real panel When DVR is run if you switch off the power the HDD in DVR will be damaged Please avoid such operation Take away th...

Страница 50: ...reboot Any network parameters in Network menu Stream type resolution and record schedule in Recording menu External alarm sensor type in Alarms menu View tampering alarm schedule in Camera menu Video...

Страница 51: ...is left from factory there is one default administrator The name is admin and password is 12345 The name can not be changed while the password can be Move Active Frame to User item press ENTER key to...

Страница 52: ...nter into User Management menu Step 2 Add new user name In the User Management menu move Active Frame to Add button and press ENTER in the pop up dialog input the new user name press ENTER and return...

Страница 53: ...53 Step 3 Setup the password for new user After you add one new user the password is null You can skip this step if you do not want to change the password...

Страница 54: ...ment interface you can use keys to select one user then use move Active Frame to Del button press ENTER in the pop up confirmation dialog press Confirm button to delete the selected user and return Pr...

Страница 55: ...and use key to move Active Frame to password edit box and press EDIT key to enter into edit status Press numeric keys to input the new password The password is only combined by 16 numerals at most In...

Страница 56: ...56 In this case press ENTER to return password edit box and input new password again...

Страница 57: ...into rights setup menu as following Operational rights are divided into Local Rights and Remote Rights You can assign the necessary rights to the user Use key to move Active Frame to the correspondin...

Страница 58: ...shut down DVR etc Power to shut down or reboot the device Remote Rights PTZ Control Remote control PTZ Record Remote manual start stop recording Playback Remote playback download the recorded files on...

Страница 59: ...s is not the address of DVR but the PC that will access DVR If you setup this MAC address only the PC with this MAC address can access this DVR At PC end in DOS prompt you can use ipconfig command to...

Страница 60: ...ine different device ID for each DVR Otherwise the IR controller will control all DVR with the same device ID at the same time In Display menu move Active Frame to the device ID edit box in the edit s...

Страница 61: ...select PAL or NTSC video standard VGA setup No this option in FPGA DVR There is one VGA interface at the real panel of DVR You can use it to connect with VGA display You can define VGA resolution ref...

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Страница 63: ...63 5 4 Day and Time Setup 5 4 1 Day and Time Setting In Display menu you can setup DVR system date and time...

Страница 64: ...t one camera Display mode There are several display modes Opaque Steady Transparent Steady Transparent Flashing Opaque Flashing Move Active Frame to OSD item you can select one mode Display position a...

Страница 65: ...mat to switch 12 24 hours standard There are following OSD formats MM DD YYYY hh mm ss default MM DD YYYY hh mm ss YYYY MM DD hh mm ss YYYY MM DD hh mm ss Here YYYY means year MM means month DD means...

Страница 66: ...ving Time Setup In Display interface you can press DST Setup button to enter into DST setup interface DST means Daylight Saving Time select the check box to enable the function and you can set DST sta...

Страница 67: ...lowercase characters refer to Chapter 3 4 The camera name can support 32 characters Step 3 Press ENTER key to exit edit status Move Active Frame to Confirm button press ENTER to save the modification...

Страница 68: ...mage Setup menu press Cancel button or ESC key you can abort the modification 5 5 2 Video Parameters Setup For different camera and different background in order to get the best video image you need t...

Страница 69: ...nd can find the video image will be changed at the same time When you are satisfied with the real time video image press ENTER to return Image Setup menu Step 4 You can copy the video parameters of cu...

Страница 70: ...era You can use keys to select one camera Step 3 Click Advanced settings setup menu Step4 Enable Privacy Mask option click Area button to enter into mask area setup interface Enable the check box besi...

Страница 71: ...pane This red area is the mask area After setting the red mask area you can press EDIT key to save Press ESC key to cancel the mask area The maximum mask area size is 8 8 panes and the minimum size i...

Страница 72: ...are Low Normal and High Selecting one of them will active Area Setup and Policy Setup functions Step 4 View tampering area setup Move Active Frame to Area button press ENTER key to enter into area set...

Страница 73: ...the policy You can select one or more solution including On Screen Warning Audible Warning send Email Upload to Center and Trigger Alarm Output You can use and EDIT key to enable or disable them Blan...

Страница 74: ...deo image is lost If you enable video loss alarm in such case DVR will make alarm Step 1 Enter into Image Setup menu Step 2 Select camera Use keys to select one camera Step 3 Enter into Advanced setti...

Страница 75: ...send Email Upload to Center and Trigger Alarm Output You can use and EDIT key to enable or disable them Blank means disable and is enable Step 7 Save alarm setup After your setup press Confirm button...

Страница 76: ...u select Off option DVR will not response even if there is motion detection If you select other options Motion Area Setup button and Policy Setup button will be active If you select low sensitivity su...

Страница 77: ...he yellow pane will appear again then you can setup another motion area Clear motion area Clear part of motion area Move the yellow pane to the start clear position of motion area press EDIT you will...

Страница 78: ...alarm happened you can trigger related camera to start recording In Motion Alarm Handle menu you can select one or more record channels Please use ENTER or EDIT key to enable the flag into Note In or...

Страница 79: ...ds The value of N dependent on the switch time in preview setup When the motion alarm is disappeared DVR will restore preview mode Step 9 Save motion alarm setup Press Confirm button to return Image S...

Страница 80: ...ect Out to select the main or Spot outputs Preview mode For preview mode item you can use key to select one mode If DVR has only 1 channel you can select only 1 Screen option If DVR has 4 channels the...

Страница 81: ...esponding camera live image on screen When there are several alarms happened DVR will switch camera live image one by one based on Display Delay time layout There is a square frame divided into many w...

Страница 82: ...to meet your demand Save setup Press Confirm button to confirm preview configuration and return Display menu press Confirm button to save changed parameters Press Cancel or ESC key to abort You can pr...

Страница 83: ...Video option otherwise you can select Video option to record only video Note If you change this option please reboot DVR to make parameter into effective Resolution The higher resolution is the clear...

Страница 84: ...tion 10 Seconds 15 Seconds 20 Seconds 25 Seconds 30 Seconds and Max PreRecord MaxPreRecord is to save all data in PreRecord buffer The PreRecord time is related with bit rate The lower bit rate the lo...

Страница 85: ...e All Day option Blank box means disable and means enable Step 3 Record type For Rec Type item the options are All Time Motion Detect Alarm Motion Alarm and Motion Alarm For all day record mode only o...

Страница 86: ...Step 3 Setup time period and record type There are 4 time periods for one day and each time period can select different record type Input start time and stop time for each time period and select recor...

Страница 87: ...pes you must setup Motion Detection in order to trigger motion recording refer to chapter 5 9 2 If record type is Alarm or other related types you must setup Alarms in order to trigger alarm recording...

Страница 88: ...al alarm input setup Step 1 Select one alarm input Use keys to select one alarm input You can change the Alarm in Name in box Alarm In Name Step 2 Alarm type This is sensor type You can select Normal...

Страница 89: ...e DVR will response according to the handle methods Step 6 Alarm handle method You can select one or more handle method On Screen Warning Audible Warning send Email Upload to Center and Trigger Alarm...

Страница 90: ...Set the flag as to enable sequence and input one sequence number that has been setup already Please refer to chapter 5 14 for sequence setup Tour Set the flag as to enable Tour Please refer to chapte...

Страница 91: ...al Stop If you select Manual option the alarm output will not stop until you press Clear Alarm button in Utilities menu So the actual alarm output time is made up of alarm input time and this delay ti...

Страница 92: ...rameters of current alarm output to other alarm output Step 6 Save setup When you finish setup in Alarms menu press Confirm button to save all parameters Note If any schedule is modified you must rebo...

Страница 93: ...is IP address must not be conflict with other IP If there is DHCP server in network you can set the IP as 0 0 0 0 save and reboot DVR In reboot process DVR will search the DHCP server and get one dyna...

Страница 94: ...et this IP and port and enable Upload to Center option when there is alarm and exception happened DVR will send information to that host IP The center with this IP can receive alarm and exception info...

Страница 95: ...ssword which is from ISP Step 4 Input PPPoE password again Step 5 Save parameters In PPPoE menu press Confirm to save parameters press Confirm again in Network menu Reboot DVR to make parameters into...

Страница 96: ...as DVR name DVR serial number DVR current IP to that fixed IP address We call that fixed Internet IP as IP server The IP server with that fixed Internet IP can receive DVR information and used to res...

Страница 97: ...ser Email account user name Password Email account password Sender Name Name appears in Email Sender Address Sender Email address Email server SMTP supported Email sending server Name 1 Mail receiver...

Страница 98: ...to DVR DVS user manual about RS 485 pin definition 5 14 2 PTZ Settings You can setup RS 485 parameters to match your PTZ protocol In main menu move Active Frame to PTZ menu item and press ENTER key yo...

Страница 99: ...ACES ALSON INV3609HD Howell Tc Pelco P Tc Pelco D AUTO M AUTO H ANTEN CHANGLIN DeltaDome XYM 12 ADR8060 EVI D30 DEMO SPEED DM PELCO D ST832 LC D2104 HUNTER A01 TECHYIN WEIHAN LG D MAX Panasonic KTD 34...

Страница 100: ...k camera01 PTZ protocol and will send corresponding PTZ control commands through RS 485 port 5 14 4 Preset Setup Preset is using one number to represent the camera s position zoom focus and iris Move...

Страница 101: ...t numbers press Return button to return PTZ menu In PTZ menu press Confirm button to save all parameters Delete preset number In Preset setup menu input one preset number press Delete button you can d...

Страница 102: ...reset number Dwell speed is the speed that PTZ is moved to that preset number Press Add button to add one Tour point Press Confirm button to save the Tour point into the sequence After you finish setu...

Страница 103: ...etup menu Press Rec Tour button you will enter into PTZ control interface You can start controlling PTZ with direction keys press ENTER to save the operation track and return Tour setup menu Press Sta...

Страница 104: ...ding baud rate data bit stop bit parity flow control etc Work mode The RS 232 can be used as Console or Transparent Channel 5 15 1 Console Mode Connect with PC serial port You can use HyperTerminal to...

Страница 105: ...nter into exception menu Including the following handle methods Audible Warning DVR beep warning Upload to Center Send exception information to center host PC Trigger Alarm Output trigger local relay...

Страница 106: ...re are many tools in Utilities menu Including RS232 Setup Restore Default Parameters Multi Playback Firmware Upgrade Hard Disk Management Stop Alarm Out Reboot Power Off View Log System Info and Tools...

Страница 107: ...107 6 1 Restore Parameters Restore factory parameters for DVR The IP address gateway and port number will not be restored DVR IP address and sub net in Network menu will not be restored...

Страница 108: ...pace Stand by or not Normal status or not Format HDD Before formatting stop all recording After formatting you must reboot DVR otherwise DVR will not work normally 6 3 Clear Alarm Out Clear the alarm...

Страница 109: ...to view the log based on default option just press ENTER key DVR will list all matched information Also you can select options to search By Type By Date By Type Date By Type To view log information o...

Страница 110: ...Illegal Access Hard Disk Error Hard Disk Full IP Conflict DCD Lost For example The steps of viewing alarm log Step 1 For Query item select By Type to active Major Type and Minor Type items Step 2 For...

Страница 111: ...By Type Time for Query option to active Major Type Minor Type Start Time and Stop Time items Step 2 Select Operation for major type and select one option for minor type Step 3 Input start time and sto...

Страница 112: ...only effective on DVR which supports multi playback press start using to enable multi playback In Utilities interface add Multi Playback option if the device is under multi playback mode then it displ...

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Страница 114: ...opup dialog box You can select FTP mode USB mode or CD mode If you select USB mode please make sure that USB FLASH should be FAT32 file system Press USB button and choose the corresponding firmware fi...

Страница 115: ...r software through internet Here we use wftpd32 exe as the example 1 Run wftpd32 exe FTP server software 2 Select Logging in the menu choose Log Options in the sub menu and give the choice as followin...

Страница 116: ...ssword and Verify Password edit box Click OK to save and exit the dialog box 6 In the User Rights Security Dialog select User Name as target In Home Directory edit box input the path where the firmwar...

Страница 117: ...firmware file digicap and make sure DVR and PC are in the same sub net input FTP server IP and press ENTER Upgrading as following 7 2 3 Use RS 232 Serial Command Connect DVR RS 232 port and PC com po...

Страница 118: ...fully you can press Enter on your PC keyboard will show on the hyper terminal interface Step 3 Type rebootDev then press Enter on PC keyboard to reboot DVR Step 4 Press ctrl u keys of the PC keyboard...

Страница 119: ...P and FTP server IP are in the same sub net Step 7 In the message line of IP address of the FTP server input the FTP server IP Step 8 In the message line of Confirm y n press y DVR will connect with t...

Страница 120: ...t software to upgrade please refer to user manual of client software for how to add DVR and some other configurations then please enter into config remote config others press explore to import the pat...

Страница 121: ...e capacity i m which is storage of each channel needed unit Mbyte i m i q i h i D 2 In the formula i h means the recording time for each day hour i D means number of days for which the video shall be...

Страница 122: ...ecial for RJ45 RJ45 introduction Pin definition To make the connect cable according the follows As to left point of RJ45 head 1st and 2nd cables are the anode and cathode line for sending 3rd and 4th...

Страница 123: ...work cable test tool to test each cable made Pin definition To make the network cable according to the actual situation there are two options 1 Use the following method to make the network cable when...

Страница 124: ...124 The corresponding relationship of cross cable...

Страница 125: ...ription 1 DCD I Carrier Detect 2 RxD I Receive Data 3 TxD O Transfer Data 4 CTS I Clear Data 5 RTS O Request to Send 6 DTR O Terminal Device Ready 7 GND Ground 8 Null According to demand the following...

Страница 126: ...the serial port of the DVR is connected with DTE device with DB9 plug in the corresponding relationship is as follows Connection for RJ45 and DB9 25 pin to 9 pin converter internal connection is defin...

Страница 127: ...serial port of DVR is connected with DCE device like MODEM one end of the cable is 8 pin RJ45 plug in the other end is DB25 pin plug in the corresponding relationship is as following Connection for RJ...

Страница 128: ...rate 32Kbps 2Mbps user defined Max 8Mbps Audio input 4 No 4 Audio input interface RCA 2 0Vp p 1k No RCA 2 0Vp p 1k Audio output 1 channel RCA Linear Electrical Level 600 No 1 channel RCA Linear Elect...

Страница 129: ...0Hz External alarm in 4 16 16 Relay output 2 4 4 Power supply 100 240VAC 6 3A 50 60HZ Power consumption 70W without HDD or DVD R W Working temperature 10 55 Working humidity 10 90 Size 440mm W 390mm D...

Страница 130: ...al monitoring Preview mode Monitor and VGA display 1 screen 4 screen 9 screen 16 screen preview mode Auto switch or manual switch 5 10 PTZ control Control pan tilt zoom focus and iris Setup and adjust...

Страница 131: ...playback the recorded files in DVR Download Download recorded files in DVR Remote upgrade Remote upgrade firmware Web Using IE to access DVR PSTN Access DVR through PSTN 5 15 3 Utilities OSD OSD setu...

Страница 132: ...seconds 1 Upgrade the wrong firmware 2 Compression board has problems 3 Main board has problems There are no images in the monitor connected with VOUT after DVR is started 1 The cable connected with...

Страница 133: ...pace so that it operates within the allowed range of temperature and humidity as in specification 2 If the circuit board is wet dust on circuit board can cause a short circuit The circuit board plug a...

Страница 134: ...of our company Please select payable service 1 Equipment damage caused by improper operation 2 Improper environment and conditions in on which the equipment operates e g improper power environment te...

Страница 135: ...135 Appendix G Customer Information Card User s Name Mr M s Company Name Post Address Postcode Phone Number E mail Model Number of Product Serial Number of Product Purchase Date Distributor...

Страница 136: ...136 Suggestions...

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