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RS-232 / TELNET COMMANDS

#set_edid Command

The #set_edid command sets the specified EDID type to an input or bank.

Syntax:

#set_edid param1 param2 param3 param4

Parameters:
param1

Source type

[STRING]

String

Description

default

Uses default EDID

dynamic

Uses Dynamic EDID

bank

Uses EDID bank

output

Uses EDID on Output (sink)

param2

Source number

[0 ... 8]

Value

Description

Default EDID

1 ... 8

EDID Bank

1 ... 8

Output

param3

Target type

[STRING]

String

Description

input

Specifies an input

bank

Specifies an EDID bank

param2

Target number

[1 ... 8,

1 ... 8]

Value

Description

1 ... 8

Input

1 ... 8

EDID Bank

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Страница 1: ...8x8 Matrix for HDMI w 8 ELR POL Outputs GEF HDFST 848 8ELR User Manual 1080P www gefenpro com GEFEN 8x8 HDMI MATRIX...

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Страница 3: ...gefenpro com Notice Gefen LLC reserves the right to make changes in the hardware packaging and any accompanying documentation without prior written notice 8x8 Matrix for HDMI w 8 ELR POL Outputs is a...

Страница 4: ...nlocking the Front Panel 19 Fast Switching Technology 20 Determining the Current Switching Mode 22 Changing the Switching Mode 23 Setting the IR channel on the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI 25 Routing Sources u...

Страница 5: ...all times from any display location by using the included IR Remote the RS 232 port IP control Telnet or Web GUI or by using the front panel push buttons Bi Directional IR allows the source to be con...

Страница 6: ...play devices See pages 31 for more details The GefenPRO 8x8 Matrix for HDMI w 8 ELR POL Outputs can detect the presence of Deep Color 12 bit signal automatically and will disable Deep Color EDID featu...

Страница 7: ...ver HDBaseT technology Gefen FST speeds up the HDCP authentication process Fast and Slow FST Modes Advanced EDID Management for rapid integration of sources and displays Ability to save and recall pre...

Страница 8: ...MATRIX LAYOUT 4 Front GEFEN 8x8 HDMI MATRIX 2 4 1 3 5 7 6 8...

Страница 9: ...MATRIX LAYOUT 5 Back 9 10 11 12 14 16 13 15 17 19 18 20...

Страница 10: ...g mode and IP address information 4 IR Sensor Receives signals from the IR Remote Control 5 Lock Indicator This LED glows bright blue when the front panel is locked 6 Lock Button Pressing this button...

Страница 11: ...ort for manufacturer use only 14 IR Out A H Connect an IR Emitter Gefen part no EXT 2IREMIT cable from each of these jacks and each source device 15 IR In A H Connect a 3 5mm to 3 5mm mini mono cable...

Страница 12: ...ELR POL RECEIVER LAYOUT 8 Top Front Back 2 4 5 1 6 3...

Страница 13: ...V display to the HDMI Out port using an HDMI cable 3 HDMI Locking Connector Used to lock the HDMI cable in place 4 IR Out Connect an IR Emitter Gefen part no EXT 2IREMIT cable from this jack to the HD...

Страница 14: ...tons are used to select which source is routed to a display The Source and Display buttons are mapped as follows Layout and Description RMT 848IRN 1 2 NOTE An Activity Indicator that flashes quickly w...

Страница 15: ...Channel The IR channel on the IR Remote Control must match the IR channel used by the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI For example if both DIP switches on the IR Remote Control unit are set to IR channel 0 both D...

Страница 16: ...onal IR feature on the matrix see page 27 5 Connect the AC power cord to the matrix and connect the plug to an available electrical outlet Wiring Diagram for the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI w 8 ELR POL Output...

Страница 17: ...m information When the unit is powered on the following screen is displayed After a few moments the status screen is displayed The status screen is shown below Displaying Additional Information Consec...

Страница 18: ...Input 4 is routed to Output E Input 6 is routed to Output F Input 8 is routed to Output G and finally Input 1 is routed to Output H Note that each output A H specified in the LCD display corresponds t...

Страница 19: ...on once The routing state for Output A will be displayed 2 Press the Out or Out button to cycle through the routing state for each output Consecutively pressing the Out button will cycle through each...

Страница 20: ...the Input or Input button Consecutively pressing the Input button will increment the input value by a factor of 1 within a range of 1 8 For example if Input 4 was originally routed to Output D then p...

Страница 21: ...put press the Output or Output buttons to navigate to the desired output Use the Input or Input buttons to change the source 6 Press the Menu button to return to the Routing Screen OPERATING THE 8X8 M...

Страница 22: ...s many RS 232 Telnet commands 1 Press the Lock button on the front panel The Lock LED will glow bright orange to indicate that the front panel buttons on the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI w 8 ELR POL Outputs ha...

Страница 23: ...isconnecting or turning ON OFF of HDTV displays without having these activities affect other Hi Def sources routed to any other HDTV display in the same system Fast Mode Setting the 8x8 Matrix for HDM...

Страница 24: ...isplayed The first row IN represents each HDMI input on the matrix The bottom row MODE represents the current switching mode of each HDMI input Selecting the Input 2 To change the switching mode on an...

Страница 25: ...utput button will cycle through each input from left to right starting with Input 1 4 Consecutively pressing the Output button will cycle through each output from right to left NOTE In Routing mode th...

Страница 26: ...e Output or Output button to navigate to the desired input Press the Input or Input button to toggle the switching mode between Fast F or Slow S 6 Press the Menu button to return to the Switching mode...

Страница 27: ...he IR channel on the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI 1 From the Routing screen simultaneously press the Input Input and the Output buttons to display the IR address screen The current IR address will be displayed...

Страница 28: ...ing the IR channel for the IR Remote Control unit In this case the 8x8 Matrix for HDMI is set to IR channel 1 Therefore DIP switch 1 on the IR Remote Control must be set to the ON position and DIP swi...

Страница 29: ...tput first then press the input Routing Example Route Input 4 to Output C 1 Select Output C by pressing button C on the IR Remote Control The number 3 will appear in the upper right hand corner of the...

Страница 30: ...input and output have been selected on the IR Remote Control the numbers on the far right hand of the LCD display will disappear and the new routing state will be displayed in the LCD display OUT ABC...

Страница 31: ...t IR cables can be connected to the matrix to control each display sink device 2 Connect an IR emitter from the IR Out jack on the Receiver unit to IR sensor on the display HDMI cable to source from A...

Страница 32: ...unit to the display When an IR command is sent from the automation system the command will be sent to each Receiver unit that is connected to the matrix This operation occurs independently of the cur...

Страница 33: ...Connect an IR extender to each Receiver unit 2 Connect an IR emitter from the IR Out jack on the matrix Up to eight emitters are supported OPERATING THE 8X8 MATRIX FOR HDMI IR signals IR emitter HDMI...

Страница 34: ...r unit 2 Connect an IR emitter from the IR Out All jack on the matrix Using this method any source device can be controlled using its associated IR remote from any of the viewing Receiver locations IR...

Страница 35: ...This involves reading EDID data from more than one device Management of the EDID data is important to maintain compatibility between all devices The following EDID features are copied from Output A Su...

Страница 36: ...ntrol None IMPORTANT When sending RS 232 commands a carriage return must be included at the end of the command A space must be included between the command and the parameter DA 15 DE 9 DB 25 DC 37 DD...

Страница 37: ...mmand see page 49 for details 5 Set the gateway router IP address using the sgateway command see page 43 for details 6 Set the Telnet listening port using the set_telnet_port command see page 40 for d...

Страница 38: ...or password set_webui_op_pass Sets the Web UI operator password sgateway Sets the IP gateway address show_gateway Displays the gateway address show_http_port Displays the HTTP listening port show_ip D...

Страница 39: ...disables the Telnet welcome message on login Syntax display_telnet_welcome param1 Parameters param1 State 0 1 State Meaning 0 Do not display welcome message 1 Display welcome message Example display_t...

Страница 40: ...ettings for the matrix Syntax ipconfig Parameters None Example ipconfig TCP IP settings MAC add 00 1C 91 01 50 07 IP add 192 168 1 72 Net Mask 255 255 255 0 Gateway 192 168 2 1 Web Server Port 80 Teln...

Страница 41: ...eters None Notes The matrix must be rebooted after executing this command Example resetip IP Configuration Was Reset To Factory Defaults After rebooting the matrix the IP settings will be cleared Runn...

Страница 42: ...er listening port The default port setting is 80 Also see the show_http_port on page 44 Syntax set_http_port param1 Parameters param1 Port 0 65535 Notes The matrix must be rebooted after executing thi...

Страница 43: ...e maximum length of the password is 20 characters The password is case sensitive The default Telnet password is Admin Syntax set_telnet_pass param1 Parameters param1 Password Notes The matrix must be...

Страница 44: ...and sets the Telnet listening port The default port value is 23 Syntax set_telnet_port param1 Parameters param1 Port 0 65535 Notes The matrix must be rebooted after executing this command Example set_...

Страница 45: ...Adminstrator password for the Web interface The maximum length of the password is 8 characters Syntax set_webui_ad_pass param1 Parameters param1 Password Notes The matrix must be rebooted after execut...

Страница 46: ...the Operator password for the Web interface The maximum length of the password is 8 characters Syntax set_webui_op_pass param1 Parameters param1 Password Notes The matrix must be rebooted after execut...

Страница 47: ...notation must be used when specifying the IP address The default Gateway IP address is 192 168 1 1 Syntax sgateway param1 Parameters param1 IP gateway Notes The matrix must be rebooted after executin...

Страница 48: ...ent gateway address Syntax show_gateway Parameters None Example show_gateway GATEWAY ADDRESS IS 192 168 2 1 show_http_port Command The show_http_port command shows the current HTTP listening port Synt...

Страница 49: ...nt IP address of the Matrix Syntax show_ip Parameters None Example show_ip IP ADDRESS IS 192 168 1 72 show_mac_addr Command The show_mac_addr command shows the MAC address of the Matrix Syntax show_ma...

Страница 50: ...ess Syntax show_netmask Parameters None Example show_netmask NET MASK ADDRESS IS 255 255 255 0 show_telnet_port Command The show_telnet_port command shows the current Telnet listening port Syntax show...

Страница 51: ...for login Syntax show_telnet_username Parameters None Example show_telnet_username User Name For TELNET Is Admin show_ver_data Command The show_ver_data command displays the current hardware and firm...

Страница 52: ...s of the matrix Dot decimal notation must be used when specifying the IP address Syntax sipadd param1 Parameters param1 IP address Notes The matrix must be rebooted after executing this command Exampl...

Страница 53: ...mal notation must be used when specifying the IP network mask The default subnet mask is 255 255 255 0 Syntax snetmask param1 Parameters param1 Subnet mask Notes The matrix must be rebooted after exec...

Страница 54: ...Telnet login credentials The default setting is disabled param1 0 Syntax use_telnet_pass param1 Parameters param1 State 0 1 Value Meaning 0 Disable password 1 Enable force password Example use_telnet...

Страница 55: ...ow_udp_remote_ip Displays the current remote UPD IP address show_udp_remote_port Displays the current UDP remote port use_udp_enable Enables disables UDP access set_udp_port Command The set_udp_port c...

Страница 56: ...must be rebooted after executing this command Example set_udp_remote_ip 192 168 1 20 REMOTE UDP IP ADDRESS 192 168 1 20 IS SET set_udp_remote_port Command The set_udp_remote_port command sets the rem...

Страница 57: ...rt Syntax show_udp_port Parameters None Example show_udp_port UDP COMMUNICATION PORT IS 1024 show_udp_remote_ip Command The show_udp_remote_ip command displays the current remote UDP IP address Syntax...

Страница 58: ...dp_remote_port Parameters None Example show_udp_remote_port REMOTE UDP COMMUNICATION PORT IS 4023 use_udp_enable Command The use_udp_enable command enables disables UDP Default value is disabled Synta...

Страница 59: ...an input set_output_name Specifies a name for an output set_preset_name Sets the name of the specified routing preset show_bank_name Displays the specified EDID bank name show_input_name Displays the...

Страница 60: ...ks the Matrix When the Matrix is locked all functions are disabled including the front panel RS 232 and Telnet Syntax lock_matrix param1 Parameters param1 Value 0 1 Value Meaning 0 Unlock Matrix 1 Loc...

Страница 61: ...m1 Preset 1 8 Example recall_preset 1 RECALLED THE ROUTING STATE SAVES TO PRESET 1 save_preset Command The save_preset command saves the current routing state to the specified preset Any masked output...

Страница 62: ...1 Bank 1 8 param2 Name Example set_bank_name 2 Dell_30 set_input_name Command The set_input_name command provides a name to the selected input For example Input 1 could be renamed as DVD_Player The ma...

Страница 63: ...et_output_name param1 param2 Parameters param1 Output A H param2 Name Example set_output_name C Sony_XBR7 Sony_XBR7 NAME IS ASSIGNED TO OUTPUT C set_preset_name Command The set_preset_name command nam...

Страница 64: ...tax show_bank_name param1 Parameters param1 Bank 1 8 Example show_bank_name 2 THE NAME FOR BANK 2 IS Dell_30 show_input_name Command The show_input_name command displays the name for the specified inp...

Страница 65: ...ommand Syntax show_output_name param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Example show_output_name C THE NAME FOR OUTPUT C IS Sony_XBR show_preset_name Command The show_preset_name command displays the name...

Страница 66: ...command shows the current routing status of the specified output The name assigned to the output and input will be included in parentheses Syntax show_r param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Example sho...

Страница 67: ...am2 is set to 0 then the specified input is routed to all outputs Unlike other commands do not precede the r command with the symbol Syntax r param1 param2 param9 Parameters param1 Input 1 8 param2 Ou...

Страница 68: ...64 s Command The s command routes the specified input to all outputs Unlike other commands do not precede the r command with the symbol Syntax s param1 Parameters param1 Input 1 8 Examples s 2 INPUT 2...

Страница 69: ...atus of the specified output m Displays the current matrix routing status in table format n Displays the routing status for the specified output help Command The help command displays help on the spec...

Страница 70: ...fw FIRMWARE VERSION GEF HDFST 848 8ELR v3 1G show_hdp Command The show_hpd command displays the HPD Hot Plug Detect status of the specified output The name assigned to the output will be included in p...

Страница 71: ...output Syntax show_rsense param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Notes If the output has been renamed using the set_output_name command then the name assigned to the output will be included in parenthes...

Страница 72: ...nd displays the current matrix routing status in table format Unlike other commands do not precede the m command with the symbol Syntax m Parameters None Example m Out A B C D E F G H In 1 2 1 2 2 2 2...

Страница 73: ...ut output routing state for the specified output Unlike other commands do not precede the n command with the symbol Syntax n param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Notes If param1 0 then the routing stat...

Страница 74: ...Displays the current switching mode for the specified input fst_fast Command The fst_fast command sets the specified inputs to Fast switching mode Syntax fst_fast param1 Parameters param1 Input 1 8 No...

Страница 75: ...then all inputs will be set to Slow switching mode Example fst_slow 1 INPUT 1 IS SET TO FST SLOW MODE show_fst Command The fst_slow command sets the specified inputs to Slow switching mode Syntax show...

Страница 76: ...wer Powers the matrix on or off reboot Reboots the matrix set_edid Copies EDID data between inputs outputs and banks set_ir Sets the IR channel of the matrix show_hdcp Displays the HDCP status on the...

Страница 77: ...S echo Command The echo command enables disables serial port terminal echo Syntax echo Parameters param1 Value 0 1 Value Meaning 0 Disable feedback 1 Enable feedback Examples echo 1 LOCAL ECHO IS ON e...

Страница 78: ...ress 192 168 5 50 Is Set Remote UDP Communication Port 4023 Is Set UDP Access is Enable Telnet Interace Password Is Disable TELNET User Name Admin Is Set TELNET Interface Password Is Set Telnet Welcom...

Страница 79: ...put 1 8 param2 Value 0 1 Value Description 0 Disable 1 Enable Examples hdcp 2 0 INPUT 2 HDCP IS DISABLE hdcp 0 1 ALL INPUTS HDCP ARE ENABLE NOTE Some computers will enable HDCP if an HDCP compliant di...

Страница 80: ...command is identical to physically disconnecting and reconnecting the cable between the source and the matrix Syntax hpd_pulse param1 Parameters param1 Input 1 8 Notes Set param1 0 to cycle the HPD li...

Страница 81: ...did command secures the Local EDID by disabling the automatic loading of the downstream EDID after the matrix is powered Syntax lock_edid param1 Parameters param1 Value 0 1 Value Description 0 Disable...

Страница 82: ...Command The mask command masks the specified outputs If param1 is set to 0 then all outputs are masked Syntax mask param1 param9 Parameters param1 Output A H Examples mask c f OUTPUTS C F ARE MASKED...

Страница 83: ...79 power Command The power command toggles the power state on the matrix Syntax power param1 Parameters param1 State 0 1 Value Meaning 0 Power matrix OFF 1 Power matrix ON Example power 0 MATRIX IS OF...

Страница 84: ...LNET COMMANDS 80 reboot Command The reboot command reboots the matrix Syntax reboot Parameters None Example reboot MATRIX WILL REBOOT SHORTLY REBOOT UNIT IN 2 SECONDS GEF HDFST 848 8ELR v3 1G A1B2C3D4...

Страница 85: ...ring Description default Uses default EDID dynamic Uses Dynamic EDID bank Uses EDID bank output Uses EDID on Output sink param2 Source number 0 8 Value Description 0 Default EDID 1 8 EDID Bank 1 8 Out...

Страница 86: ...below Examples Using Dynamic EDID set_edid dynamic 0 input 4 COPY DYNAMIC EDID TO INPUT4 In the example above Input 4 is set to Dynamic EDID If the following routing command is issued then the EDID fr...

Страница 87: ...for the matrix The associated DIP switch settings for the IR remote control unit are returned See page 11 for details on setting the IR channel for the IR remote control Syntax set_ir param1 Paramete...

Страница 88: ...p command displays the HDCP status on the specified input Syntax show_hdcp param1 Parameters param1 Input 1 8 Notes Set param1 0 to displays the HDCP status of all inputs Examples show_hdcp 3 INPUT 3...

Страница 89: ...atrix Syntax show_ir Parameters None Example show_ir CURRENT IR CHANNEL IS 2 show_mask Command The show_mask command shows the mask status for the specified output Syntax show_mask param1 Parameters p...

Страница 90: ...highest color depth supported by the specified display based on the EDID Syntax show_out_colordpt param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Example show_out_colordpt a 12 BITS HDMI If no display sink signal...

Страница 91: ...highest resolution supported by the specified display based on the EDID Syntax show_out_res param1 Parameters param1 Output A H Example show_out_res c 1080P 60HZ HDMI If no display sink signal is det...

Страница 92: ...mand The unmask command unmasks the specified outputs If param1 is set to 0 then all outputs are unmasked Syntax unmask param1 param9 Parameters param1 Output A H Examples unmask d OUTPUT F IS UNMASKE...

Страница 93: ...Options Operator Administrator Administrator login provides unrestricted access to all features and settings Operator login limits access to matrix routing display information and routing preset featu...

Страница 94: ...ab to open the desired page Main Routing Input Click the radio button next to the desired input to be routed Only one input can be selected at a time Name Displays the current name of the input The na...

Страница 95: ...can be made using the Web GUI When the matrix is locked the button text will read Unlock Matrix and a red bar will appear across the top portion of the screen with the text Matrix is LOCKED Click the...

Страница 96: ...8 for details on naming inputs Output Click to place a check mark in the box and select the desired output Multiple outputs can be selected at a time Check All Places a check mark in each box under th...

Страница 97: ...ting Preset Saves the current routing state to memory Click the drop down list to select the desired routing preset then click the Save button to save the preset to memory Recall Routing Preset Loads...

Страница 98: ...ch of the following Output name RSENSE Mask HPD Hot Plug Detect HDCP and POL Input Displays the state of each input for each of the following Input name Color Depth Color Space HDCP 3D Active Signal V...

Страница 99: ...down list The selected EDID will be copied from the selected EDID Bank or Output to the desired input s and used by the source Options Default EDID Bank 1 Bank 8 Output 1 Output 8 Feature Audio Forma...

Страница 100: ...sired name of the Preset in this field Click the Save Changes button to save the Preset Name Click the Cancel button to restore the previous name Save Changes Saves the current changes Cancel Restores...

Страница 101: ...Saves the current changes Cancel Restores the previous names for each Preset if a change was made Name Type the desired name of each Output or Input in these fields Click the Save Changes button or cl...

Страница 102: ...I O Setup HPD Control Pulse Click the Pulse button to cycle the HPD line on the desired input This is the equivalent of physically disconnecting and reconnecting the HDMI cable between the source devi...

Страница 103: ...on to save changes Check All Places a check mark in each box under the FST column Clear All Clears all check marks from the FST column Set Click this button to save changes for all input s The Web GUI...

Страница 104: ...ble Click to select deselect the desired input s Inputs with a check mark will disable the HDCP feature Use the Set button to save changes Check All Places a check mark in each box under the Disable c...

Страница 105: ...isables the automatic loading after power up See the lock_edid command on page 77 for more information Copy EDID From Select the EDID from the drop down list The EDID will be copied from the selected...

Страница 106: ...s a check mark in each box under the Copy To column Clear All Clears all check marks from the Copy To column EDID modes If the EDID Mode is set to Last Output then the EDID source will be set to Dynam...

Страница 107: ...y the specified EDID to the selected inputs banks Cancel Restores the previous EDID state for each input if a change was made Check All Places a check mark in each box under the Copy To column Clear A...

Страница 108: ...he desired name of the EDID bank in this field Click the Save Changes button to save the bank name Click the Cancel button to restore the previous name Save Changes Saves the current name change to th...

Страница 109: ...to where the EDID will be uploaded Options Bank 1 Bank 8 Upload Click this button to upload the EDID to the specified bank Drop down list Click this box to select the EDID that is to be saved to a fi...

Страница 110: ...aves the current settings for the Change IP Settings After clicking this button the Web interface will display a dialog indicating that the matrix must be rebooted for changes to take effect Set Defau...

Страница 111: ...ct Click this check box to have the matrix prompt for a password each time a Telnet session is started Show Login Message on Connect Click this check box to have the matrix display the Telnet welcome...

Страница 112: ...ttings Remote UDP IP Address Type the remote UDP IP address in this text box Remote UDP Port Enter the remote UDP port in this text box Enable UDP Access Check this box to enable UDP access If this bo...

Страница 113: ...down list to select the username to be changed Old Password Type the current old password in this field New Password Type the new password in this field Confirm Password Re type the new password in t...

Страница 114: ...110 WEB INTERFACE Configuration System Configuration Download Current Configuration Click this button to download the current configuration to a file...

Страница 115: ...lick this button to set the matrix to factory default settings The IP settings are preserved Reboot Click this button to reboot the matrix Browse Click this button to select the saved configuration fi...

Страница 116: ...the matrix will verify the firmware content The front panel LCM will display the following if the firmware passes 7 After the firmware file integrity has been verified the matrix will begin the upgra...

Страница 117: ...following will be displayed on the front panel LCD 5 Extract the firmware file from the ZIP file and drag the bin file to the Removable Disk The 8x8 Matrix for HDMI will indicate that the firmware is...

Страница 118: ...ll be displayed in the front panel LCM 10 After the matrix has been updated the unit will automatically initiate a countdown to reboot The Power button can be pressed to bypass the countdown without h...

Страница 119: ...ded ambient temperature 40 C 104 F b Increase the air flow as needed to maintain the recommended temperature inside the rack c Do not exceed maximum weight loads for the rack Install heavier equipment...

Страница 120: ...m mini stereo jack IR Input Port Matrix 9 3 5mm mini mono jacks IR Output Port Matrix 9 3 5mm mini mono jacks IR Extender Port Receiver 1 3 5mm mini stereo jack IR Output Port Receiver 1 3 5mm mini mo...

Страница 121: ...oof of sale may be required in order to claim warranty 2 Customers outside the US are responsible for shipping charges to and from Gefen 3 Copper cables are limited to a 30 day warranty and cables mus...

Страница 122: ...f the author may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AS IS AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIE...

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Страница 124: ...Rev A6 Pb 20600 Nordhoff St Chatsworth CA 91311 1 800 545 6900 818 772 9100 fax 818 772 9120 www gefenpro com support gefenpro com This product uses UL or CE listed power supplies...

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