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Control

Description

specified in the program settings.

Download files to

cluster node before

processing

If the option is selected, media-files are downloaded into a temporary folder on

the node hard disk before the task processing. Output files are also created in a

temporary folder located on the node HD. After the task completion the output

files will be copied from the temporary folder to the output folder.

The default path of temporary folders is 'C:\'. The path can be changed in the

config.xml

file (located in the program folder).

Most of options are adjustable via the shortcut menu (right-click the

Cluster

window):

Figure 18.

Cluster Shortcut Menu

•

Add cluster node —

adds cluster node to the available nodes list.

•

Delete cluster node —

deletes cluster node from the available nodes list. The same

operation can be done with the button

click.

•

Clear the list

— clears the available nodes list. The same operation can be done with the

button

click.

•

Skip the current task

— allows the current task skipping on any node. Selet the node and

click the

Skip the current task

command.

•

Download files to cluster node before processing

— enables downloading of the input

files to the cluster node before task processing. Encoded data is stored to the file that is
located in the temporal folder of cluster node. After encoding is completed, the output files
are copied to the output folder.

•

Work mode

— selects the cluster node work mode.

•

Enable cluster node/channel

— turns on the cluster node/channel.

Elecard Converter Studio

User Guide

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Страница 1: ...Elecard Converter Studio User Guide Version 3 3 ...

Страница 2: ... every precaution has been taken in the preparation of this document the publisher and author assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions Nor is any liability assumed for damages resulting from the use of the information contained herein Changes are periodically made to the information herein these changes will be incorporated in new editions of the publication Elecard may make improvements ...

Страница 3: ... TASK PARAMETERS CHANGING 32 5 4 INPUT FILE INFORMATION 32 5 5 STREAM TYPE PARAMETERS 34 5 6 VIDEO ENCODING PARAMETERS 37 5 7 PICTURE TRANSFORMATION 39 5 8 LOGO AND ADVERTISEMENT INSERTION 47 5 9 AUDIO PARAMETERS 48 5 10 CHAPTER POINTS 50 6 ADVANCED ENCODING SETTINGS 51 6 1 AVC H 264 VIDEO ENCODER ADVANCED SETTINGS 52 6 2 MPEG 1 2 VIDEO ENCODER ADVANCED SETTINGS 57 6 3 MPEG 4 VIDEO ENCODER ADVANCE...

Страница 4: ... following minimum system configuration SSE enhanced CPU Intel Pentium Core2Duo Xeon AMD Athlon Opteron etc 512 MB RAM Any VGA card NVIDIA video adapter with the CUDA technology support is strongly recommended Windows 2000 XP 2003 Server Vista USB HASP HL key for Pro Pro HD versions only 1 4 Licensing and Technical Support Elecard Converter Studio is available as a shareware or as a registered pro...

Страница 5: ... media and printed materials SOFTWARE PRODUCT For sales and licensing information contact the Elecard Sales Department sales elecard net ru For technical support contact the Elecard Technical Support Team tsup elecard net ru Elecard Converter Studio 5 User Guide ...

Страница 6: ...he following features Watch Folder mode The program automatically scans the specified input folder and converts new media files according to the selected profile Work as Windows service Allows the Watch Folder mode start as Windows service It is used only in Pro Pro HD versions Console application mode The program can be started as console application that supports both the single file converting ...

Страница 7: ...nel streams with individual settings for each track Work with MPEG multiplexer is adapted for multiprogram files creation It is used only in Pro Pro HD versions Stream Copy mode for video and audio The mode of the original track transferring from the input file to the output file without conversion It accelerates the conversion process and keeps the data quality Multiplexing into AVI FLV MP4 3GPP ...

Страница 8: ...oding Formats Maximal resolution limits 720x576 720x576 MPEG 1 2 MP ML MP HL MP HL HP HL HP HL MPEG 2 Lossless MPEG 4 ASP AVC H 264 Main 3 1 High 5 1 High 5 1 High 5 1 DV25 DVC Pro50 DVC Pro100 Supported Audio Encoding Formats MPEG 1 2 Layer I II AAC AMR LPCM WAV PCM Multiplexing Formats RAW AVI FLV MP4 3GPP AVCHD MPEG 1 SS MPEG 2 PS MPEG 2 TS Miscellaneous Denoising Sound correction Logo insertio...

Страница 9: ...o Pro HD versions 2 2 Specifications Elecard Converter Studio supports the following multiplexed output formats MPEG 1 System Stream ISO IEC 13818 1 MPEG 2 Program Stream ISO IEC 13818 1 MPEG 2 Transport Stream ISO IEC 13818 1 AVCHD streams MP4 ISO compatible files ISO IEC 14496 14 MP4 Sony PSP compatible files MP4 Apple iPod compatible files MP4 ISMA compatible files MP4 3GPP compatible files FLV...

Страница 10: ...uffYUV AVI DVB subtitles Closed Captions EIA 608 EIA 708 Teletext subtitles Elecard Converter Studio supports the following input formats AVI Uncompressed files RGB YV12 YUY2 DV25 DV50 DV100 MPEG 4 SP ASP AVI MOV files AVS Avisynth Script MPEG 1 2 MPEG PS TS VES ES XPL MPEG 4 SP ASP MOV MP4 MPEG PS TS VES XPL AVC H 264 MOV MP4 MPEG PS TS VES XPL LPCM WAV PCM Dolby Digital MPEG 1 Audio Layer II MPE...

Страница 11: ... AAC Advanced Audio Codec Elecard Converter Studio 11 User Guide ...

Страница 12: ...heir settings and launch conversion process Profiles panel contains the available profiles list with the brief description of their settings Task Parameters panel allows quickly setting any task parameters and adding optional filters if they are required Messages panel displays various information when the converting process is started In particular it displays warning messages if the encoder para...

Страница 13: ...he encoding process information 3 1 Main Menu The program main menu provides convenient access to the frequently used commands All of the commands are divided into groups Figure 2 Elecard Converter Studio Main Menu Figure 3 Elecard Converter Studio Main Menu File Figure 4 Elecard Converter Studio Main Menu Batch List Elecard Converter Studio 13 User Guide ...

Страница 14: ...gure 6 Elecard Converter Studio Main Menu Window Figure 7 Elecard Converter Studio Main Menu Help 3 2 Batch List Panel When you start Elecard Converter Studio for the first time the Batch list is empty Tasks will be Elecard Converter Studio 14 User Guide ...

Страница 15: ...sk Deletes the selected tasks from the Batch list Fast Task Profile Changing Allows quickly changing the conversion profile and the output folder of the selected tasks For more information see Section Fast Profile Changing Add File s to Batch List Click this button to add media files to the Batch list Open files are added to the Batch list They have the Init waiting status To prepare a task for co...

Страница 16: ... The Cluster node box specifies the node that task list must be displayed at the moment Many options are also available in the shortcut menu The menu appears when the user clicks the right mouse button on the Batch List panel Figure 9 Batch List Shortcut Menu Add File s to Batch List adds media files to the Batch list The task parameters must be adjusted before the encoding process start For more ...

Страница 17: ...of the last opened Batch list Delete Successfully Completed Task s deletes all completed task s from the Batch list This option is disabled in the Watch Folder mode Error information displays the error information and possible ways to fix it It happens when task encoding cannot be started and the task has the Failed status 3 3 Profiles Panel The Profiles panel contains ready for use profiles Each ...

Страница 18: ...e profiles list The profiles supplied with the program are protected from deletion Apply Profile to Task Applies the selected profile to the task The shortcut menu is available in the Profiles panel The menu contains the following commands Use profile as default sets the profile that will be applied to all of opened files Import profile imports the profile created and saved previously into the pro...

Страница 19: ...lly changing the encoding and decoding parameters The task parameters are grouped as tabs by its features Click the appropriate button to set the parameter group Figure 12 Task Parameters Panel Input File Information displays general information about the current tracks in the task For more information see Section Input File Information Stream Type Parameters allows selecting the output stream typ...

Страница 20: ...ion and inserts advertisement in the file For more information see Section Logo and Advertisement Insertion Audio Encoding Parameters allows setting audio parameters and using optional filters for work with audio streams For more information see Section Audio Encoding Parameters 3 5 Preview Panel The Preview panel allows viewing the source video and controlling its playback There are the following...

Страница 21: ... Disables the partial encoding mode The selected track will be converted entirely Adds chapter points Adds key frames to the specified positions during the encoding process For more information see Section Add Chapter Points In addition to the controls file duration and current playback position are displayed on the Preview panel You can right click in the Preview panel to open the shortcut menu T...

Страница 22: ...gs Figure 15 Messages Panel 3 7 Cluster Panel The Cluster panel allows Converter Studio to use computing power of locally networked PCs for common task list encoding distributed computing The cluster node works in one of the following modes Independent Watch Folder The nodes working in this mode perform folder monitoring independently of one another and of main computer Work folder profile and add...

Страница 23: ...stalled The service installation and adjustment are described in the Converter Studio Service Manager section Port Specifies the service control port Work mode Specifies the service work mode Independent Watch Folder The nodes working in this mode perform folder monitoring independently of one another and of main computer Work folder profile and additional settings are specified for each node Cont...

Страница 24: ...luster node adds cluster node to the available nodes list Delete cluster node deletes cluster node from the available nodes list The same operation can be done with the button click Clear the list clears the available nodes list The same operation can be done with the button click Skip the current task allows the current task skipping on any node Selet the node and click the Skip the current task ...

Страница 25: ... list The same operation can be done with the button click The Cluster node parameters dialog will be displayed in the form corresponding to the selected work mode The Watch Folder mode is described in the Watch Folder Mode section 3 8 Statistics Panel The Statistics panel displays various information about the converting process In particular it displays the currently encoded task name the number...

Страница 26: ...e 20 Batch List Panel Add File s to Batch List Select required files for conversion in the appeared window The task with the Init Waiting status will be set for every file in the Batch list It means that the profile for this task is not specified and the task will not be converted To apply a profile and change its settings see the Saving Applying and Changing Task Parameters section On the File me...

Страница 27: ...he Task Parameters panel or click the Save Task to Batch List button on the Batch List panel For more information about task settings see the Task Parameters Changing section Another method to add a new task On the File menu click Open Media Files or press CTRL M to open the Open Media File s dialog box Elecard Converter Studio 27 User Guide ...

Страница 28: ...version in the open window To clear the files list use button The following table describes Open Media File s dialog box controls Table 3 Open Media File s Dialog Box Controls Control Description Mode Selects media files group mode Set of files Each file will be added to the Batch list according to the se lected profile Multi Source File list will be created and then the group of files will be Ele...

Страница 29: ...um encoding speed And vice versa the Highest mode provides the maximum quality The optimal speed quality ratio is provided with the Optimal mode Note Single File mode operates only with MPEG PS TS VES files To work with the program correctly set the same parameters resolution audio and video format frame rate etc to all files in the list Besides the program allows working with DVD content In this ...

Страница 30: ... up to completely adjustable mode when all settings are available to the user 5 1 Profile Applying Use the Profiles panel when only a profile should be applied to the task In this case select tasks in the Batch List panel and drag the appropriate profile from the Profiles panel to the Batch List You can also drag the profile to the Task Parameters panel and apply it to the task that is selected fo...

Страница 31: ...on the Batch List panel Figure 25 Batch List Fast Profile Changing 2 In the open dialog box you can change the profile adjust the Speed Quality ratio and specify the output folder for saving of the encoded files Figure 26 Fast Task Profile Changing Dialog Box The following table describes Fast Task Profile Changing controls Elecard Converter Studio 31 User Guide ...

Страница 32: ...ng To change any task parameters add filters disable unused tracks etc click the Change Task Parameters button Then the Task Parameters panel opens You can also double click the selected task in the Batch List panel to open this panel or use the shortcut menu by right clicking the task Figure 27 Batch List Task Parameters Changing All parameters are grouped as controls by their functions in the Ta...

Страница 33: ...ppropriate track to disable it To add a new audio video track from the media file to the Batch list click the Add Track s button and select the required file in the open window Figure 28 Task Parameters Input Tab Figure 29 Task Parameters Output Tab Elecard Converter Studio 33 User Guide ...

Страница 34: ...asses The user can also see the estimated output file size and if it is necessary to change the output size encode to the target file size By encoding file into the specified size the video bitrate is automatically adjusted according to the file duration and its required size The audio track bitrate is set manually and remains unchanged The Encode to the target file size mode is available only for...

Страница 35: ...Figure 31 Task Parameters Stream Type Parameters The following table describes Stream Type Parameters controls Elecard Converter Studio 35 User Guide ...

Страница 36: ...the number of encoding passes One pass Fast one pass mode In this mode the bitrate varies on the fly starting at the specified bitrate increasing toward the specified maximum in complex segments and decreasing toward the specified minimum in less complex segments Two pass Qualitative two pass mode In this mode the analysis pass is performed before the encoding pass The analysis pass determines the...

Страница 37: ...every track Select the Use these settings for all video tracks check box if the open file has several video tracks and it is necessary to adjust the same settings for every track So select a first video track set all necessary parameters for it and select this check box Then save the task Figure 32 Task Parameters Video Encoding Parameters The following table describes Video Encoding Parameters co...

Страница 38: ...rofile High Level 422 Profile Unspecified Level For MPEG 4 ASP video format the following profiles and levels are available Simple profile Level 5 Advanced simple profile Level 5 For AVC H 264 video format the following profiles and levels are available Baseline profile Level 5 1 Main profile Level 5 1 High profile Level 5 1 Rate Control Specifies the Rate Control mode The following modes are avai...

Страница 39: ...ideo can be converted into progressive format using the deinterlacing operation Interlaced video can be encoded using the Interlaced and Interlaced adaptive modes The first one is optimized for video that contains only interlaced frames Adaptive mode provides the better encoding quality for interlaced and mixed interlaced and progressive frames video Aspect Ratio Specifies the output video aspect ...

Страница 40: ...coding Full Output video has original frame size Half horizontal Output video frame width is reduced by half Half vertical Output video frame height is reduced by half Quarter Output video frame width and height are reduced by half When you select this option the decoding process can be accelerated but some small artifacts can appear on the picture This option is available for MPEG 2 and DV video ...

Страница 41: ...teletext language for overlay during the transcoding process Denoising Allows visual improvement of the picture by reducing high frequency noise The denoising filter operates both in software and hardware mode on video adapters supporting NVIDIA CUDA technology Concurrent utilization of several video cards makes it possible to boost the processing speed up to 33 times as compared to standard CPU p...

Страница 42: ...Figure 34 Picture Transformation HQ Upsampling Figure 35 Picture Transformation Postprocessing Deblocking Elecard Converter Studio 42 User Guide ...

Страница 43: ...Figure 36 Picture Transformation Denoising Figure 37 Task Parameters Picture Transformation 2 The following table describes Picture Transformation 2 controls Elecard Converter Studio 43 User Guide ...

Страница 44: ...modes are available High Speed Uses the fast bicubic method Deinterlacing does not affect conversion speed High Quality Uses the more qualitative adaptive method but dein terlacing speed is lower See examples below Double frame rate Allows convertion of interlaced video into progressive format using the frame rate doubling Field order Allows user to specify the field order in the input video Figur...

Страница 45: ...the output frame if the frame rate is changed Cropping Allows cropping a frame from any side Values must be set to the appropriate fields in pixels Resizing Method Enables the filter and select the frame resizing method Each method provides different speed and quality Some methods provide well defined edges or fuzzy edges Frame Size Sets the output frame size You can select the current frame size ...

Страница 46: ...Control Description Aspect Ratio Method Controls aspect ratio change when video frame is resized Elecard Converter Studio 46 User Guide ...

Страница 47: ...into the video select the required video track and select the Insert logo check box Then click and select BMP file in the open window To insert an advertisement select the Insert advertisement check box click and then select the schedule file in the open window For creating and editing the advertisement schedule file see Section Advertisement Schedule Editor Figure 40 Task Parameters Logo and Adve...

Страница 48: ...a and click the left mouse button Schedule file Specifies the path of the advertisement schedule file Note Only 24 bit and 32 bit BMP files are supported Transparent color should not be set for 32 bit BMP files with alpha channel 5 9 Audio Parameters Click button to open the Audio Parameters group of parameters It allows the user to select encoding format to change settings and to set audio freque...

Страница 49: ...VD and SVCD standards and for DVB broadcasting MPEG 2 format that is optimized for low bitrate audio streams AAC format with stronger compression abilities and better quality than the MPEG format WAV uncompressed audio data in WAV file Stream copy mode of the original track copying from the input file to the output file without conversion Channel Mode Selects the encoding mode for stereo channels ...

Страница 50: ...Level Correction Allows correcting of audio signal level to remove waveform envelope distortions of the input audio data The following parameters must be set Level sets the required level of output signal dB Gate sets the noise threshold dB All sounds with level below the threshold are considered as noise Attack sets the response time to the signal level variation ms Separate channels processing e...

Страница 51: ...anced settings of encoders and MPEG multiplexer Click the Advanced button to open these settings If you do not understand the options that are described below we urge you not to change them and rather use the preconfigured profiles Elecard Converter Studio 51 User Guide ...

Страница 52: ...Encoder Advanced Settings Figure 43 AVC H 264 Video Encoder Advanced Settings Page 1 The following table describes the first page of AVC H 264 Video Encoder Advanced Settings controls Elecard Converter Studio 52 User Guide ...

Страница 53: ...mmended for permanent use Adaptive GOP Enables disables adaptive B frames placement When video complexity is very high the encoder decreases B frames count to increase encoding quality Recommended for permanent use Max rate Specifies the hypothetic rate of the encoded data streaming It is recommended to set high bitrate value 2 3 times greater than average stream bitrate Is relevant only to the va...

Страница 54: ... number of independent slices When this value is set equal to the number of physical or virtual CPUs on multi CPU computers the encoding process can be slightly accelerated Auto mode value equals 0 is recommended to use Deblock mode Enables deblock postprocessing It essentially increases visual quality of encoded video especially for low bitrates Two modes are supported Picture standard deblocking...

Страница 55: ...Figure 44 AVC H 264 Video Encoder Advanced Settings Page 2 The following table describes the second page of AVC H 264 Video Encoder Advanced Settings controls Elecard Converter Studio 55 User Guide ...

Страница 56: ...is incorrect Use Aspect Ratio Specifies the method of aspect ratio setting The following methods are available picture aspect ratio sample aspect ratio Sample Aspect Ratio Sets one of standard aspect ratio or specifies the custom aspect ratio Write HRD parameters Enables disables the HRD model parameters writing into the encoded stream The HRD model maintenance is mandatory for the encoded stream ...

Страница 57: ...s The following table describes MPEG 2 Video Encoder Advanced Settings controls Table 14 MPEG 1 2 Video Encoder Advanced Settings Controls Control Description Intra DC Precision Specifies the effective precision of DC coefficients in intra coded macroblocks Elecard Converter Studio 57 User Guide ...

Страница 58: ... Scene Change Detection Specifies the scene changing detection SCD algorithm This flag causes the Encoder to insert I frames when new scenes are detected If this option is enabled recommended the encoded stream quality and positioning precision are improved Closed GOP Enables the closed GOPs usage If the feature is enabled every frame is located inside the GOP It allows correct B frame decoding du...

Страница 59: ...display_extension should be in the video stream Write sequence_end_code Specifies whether the sequence_end_code should be added at the end of the stream 6 3 MPEG 4 Video Encoder Advanced Settings Figure 46 MPEG 4 Video Encoder Advanced Settings Elecard Converter Studio 59 User Guide ...

Страница 60: ... quantizer Higher frequencies are responsible for fine details are usually quantized more coarsely fewer values allowed than lower frequencies It provides higher compression while video quality is degraded insignificantly Adaptive motion estimation Allows the encoder to improve output video quality when interlaced stream is encoded The encoder checks which motion estimation mode frame or field is ...

Страница 61: ...nded to insert GOV headers into MPEG 4 video intended for further editing VOL header for every I Frame Enables insertion of VOL headers for every I frame The VOL header contains the main parameters of encoded video stream that are needed for successful video decoding VOL headers repeated in the stream allow the video stream decoding from any position not only from the beginning It is recommended t...

Страница 62: ...es of all multiplexed streams Stream ID This is a 13 bit field that indicates the type of the packet payload data Stream PES ID Specifies the type and number of elementary stream in Program Stream In Transport Stream it may be set to any valid value that correctly describes the elementary stream type defined in table 2 19 ISO IEC 13818 1 In Transport Stream elementary stream types are defined in P...

Страница 63: ...program to which the program_map_PID is applicable If this is set to 0x0000 then the following PID reference will be the network PID For all other cases the value of this field is defined by the user This field will not accept any single value more than once within one version of the program association table The program number may be used as a designation for a broadcast channel for example ISO I...

Страница 64: ...g During the conversion process the folder monitoring is paused Folder monitoring is executed every 20 seconds and will continue until a new file appears in the specified folder To start Watch Folder mode click button in the Batch List panel Also you can press CTRL W or click the Watch Folder Mode command on the Tools menu Set the required parameters in the open window Figure 49 Tools Watch Folder...

Страница 65: ...rovides the creating of files that are compatible with different hardware devices Speed Quality Allows the adjustment of the encoding speed quality ratio The Fastest mode is adjusted to the maximum encoding speed And vice versa the Highest mode provides the maximum quality The optimal speed quality ratio is provided with the Optimal mode To stop the Watch Folder mode you should click the Stop batc...

Страница 66: ...advertisement inserting order into the conversion task The schedule can describe several advertisement trailers which must be shown at the specified time To start Schedule Editor press CTRL R key combination or click Advertisement schedule editor on the Tools menu Set the required parameters in the Advertisement Schedule Editor window Elecard Converter Studio 66 User Guide ...

Страница 67: ...ame rate and resolution must be the same as the converted video parameters Otherwise the advertisement trailer will be skipped 7 4 Converter Studio Service Manager Elecard Converter Studio allows the user to start the Watch Folder mode as Windows service without GUI For it during the program installation you should register the Converter Studio Service in the system create special shortcuts for th...

Страница 68: ...l Administrative Tools Services Figure 53 Converter Studio Service Manager The following table describes Converter Studio Service Manager controls Table 19 Converter Studio Service Manager Controls Control Description User Specifies the user Watch Subdirectories Enables subdirectories search in the input folder Input Folder Specifies the input folder for monitoring Output Folder Specifies the outp...

Страница 69: ... Windows Firewall select the Exceptions tab and click the Add Program button Add program C Program Files Elecard Elecard Converter Studio ProHD csService exe Note The simultaneous work of the Converter Studio Service and the program is not allowed 7 5 Batch List Filter The Batch list filter allows selecting files for conversion according to the specified parameters The filter is a very useful tool...

Страница 70: ... Size Sets the Batch list filter according to the specified file size in KB Frame Size Sets the Batch list filter according to the specified video frame size The filter compares this size with one of standard sizes Stream Type Sets the Batch list filter according to the stream type Video Format Sets the Batch list filter according to the video format Audio Format Sets the Batch list filter accordi...

Страница 71: ...rter Studio Command line allows the work mode selection and parameter settings The command line format is following csConsole exe mode i file o file p profile additional parameters where mode Sets the application work mode single Single File mode watch Watch Folder mode i file Sets the path of input file in the Single File mode or the path of source folder in the Watch Folder mode o file Sets the ...

Страница 72: ...ame prefix name Specifies the output filename prefix is added automatically profile Displays all available profiles To display the list of available profiles start the console application with the profiles parameter Command line samples csConsole exe single i С input mpg o С output mp4 p Sony PSP speedquality Optimal prefix enc_ overwrite csConsole exe watch i С media_in o С media_out p Sony PSP s...

Страница 73: ...nces To change the Elecard Converter Studio preferences select Preferences in the program main menu Figure 56 Converter Studio Preferences The following table describes Preferences controls Elecard Converter Studio 73 User Guide ...

Страница 74: ...lable computers cluster nodes and the main computer Output File Name Prefix Sets an additional prefix that is automatically added to the name of the output file Overwrite Existing Output Files Allows the existing files overwriting without confirmation Shutdown computer after encoding Allows the computer shutdown when all of the tasks from task list are completed Sound after encoding Enables beep n...

Страница 75: ...ons Start Control Panel Windows Firewall select the Exceptions tab and click the Add Program button Add program C Program Files Elecard Elecard Converter Studio ProHD csService exe Adjust the service system parameters via Contrl Panel Administrative Tools Services To start the service click Start All Programs Elecard Elecard Converter Studio Service Start Service To stop the service click Start Al...

Страница 76: ...Advertisement Schedule Editor CTRL ALT F Batch List filter CTRL F Features Viewer CTRL I Index the media file of the current task CTRL P Preferences CTRL A Select all tasks in the Batch List F1 Converter Studio Help F5 Display Preview panel F6 Display Batch List panel F7 Display Profiles panel F8 Display Messages panel F9 Display Cluster panel F11 Display Statistics panel Set the start position fo...

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