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MULTIFUNCTION GAUGE (ANALOG/DIGITAL)

MESSAGE

DESCRIPTION

BRAKE

Message displayed when the brakes are applied continuously for
15 seconds and vehicle speed is over 5 km/h (3 MPH).

SEAT BELT

When the seat belt is not buckled and the vehicle speed is less than
10 km/h (6 MPH), the message is displayed and the pilot lamp will
be lit.

ENGINE
LIMITATION
ENGAGED FASTEN
SEAT BELT

When the seat belt is not buckled and the vehicle speed is above
10 km/h (6 MPH), the message is displayed and the pilot lamp will
flash. The motor torque is limited and the vehicle maximum speed
is approximately 15 km/h (9 MPH).

ECO MODE ACTIVE

Displayed when the ECO button is pressed.

DIFFERENTIAL
LOCK

Displayed when differential lock button is pressed

8) Multifunction Display

The vehicle speed, the motor current
and the motor RPM can be displayed.
Refer to MODE (M) BUTTON in this
section.

9) Battery State of Charge

Bar graph that continuously indicates
the level of energy left in the batteries.

10) Secondary Digital Display

Displays useful real time information to
the rider. For display function informa-
tions, refer to

SET (S) BUTTON

11) Drive Mode Position Indicator

Displays the selected mode position.

12) Motor Temperature Indicator

Bar graph that continuously indicates
the motor housing temperature.

13) Numerical Display

The vehicle speed or the motor power
output can be displayed. Refer

MODE

(M) BUTTON

14) 2WD/4WD Indicator

When this indicator is ON, the 4WD
system is activated.

Gauge Setup

Setting Metric/Imperial Units

Go see a Can-Am dealer for adjust-
ments.

Setting Clock

1. Press MODE (M) button to select

clock display.

2. Push and hold MODE (M) button for

three seconds.

3. Press MODE (M) button to select

12:00 AM PM or 24:00 time base.

4. If 12:00 AM PM time base is se-

lected, A or P flashes. Press MODE
(M) button to select A (AM) or P
(PM).

5. Press SET (S) button to change

hours.

6. Press MODE (M) button to switch to

minutes (minutes flash).

7. Press SET (S) button to change min-

utes.

8. Press MODE (M) button.

Setting Language

The gauge display language can be
changed.

Refer to an authorized

Can-Am dealer for language availability
and setup the gauge to your prefer-
ence.

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Содержание Commander Electric LSV

Страница 1: ...V LSV 2 1 9 0 0 1 0 8 4 Read this guide thoroughly It contains important safety information Minimum age Operator 16 years Passenger 12 years Keep this Operator s Guide in the vehicle WARNING T 2013 20...

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Страница 3: ...ry including the possibility of death WARNING This vehicle may exceed the performance of other vehicles you may have ridden in the past Take time to familiarize yourself with your new vehicle CALIFORN...

Страница 4: ...ates a potential injury hazard WARNING Indicates a potential hazard which if not avoided could result in seri ous injury or death CAUTION Indicates a haz ardous situation which if not avoided could re...

Страница 5: ...FOREWORD change specifications designs fea tures models or equipment without incurring any obligation upon itself This Operator s Guide should remain with the vehicle when it is sold 2 _______________...

Страница 6: ...RIDE INSPECTION 12 Pre Ride Inspection Check List 12 PREPARE TO RIDE 15 Before you Ride 15 Riding Gear 15 AVOID ACCIDENTS 17 Avoid Rollovers and Tipovers 17 Avoid Collisions 17 RIDING YOUR VEHICLE 19...

Страница 7: ...52 1 Tilt Steering 53 2 Cup Holders 53 3 Passenger Handholds 54 4 Glove Box 54 5 Tool Kit 54 6 Winch Remote Control Option 54 7 Footrests 54 8 Side Nets 55 9 Shoulder Guards 55 10 Seat Belts 55 11 Dr...

Страница 8: ...BREAK IN INSPECTION 70 MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE 73 MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES 76 Front and Rear Differential Oil 76 Batteries and Electrical Components 78 Fuses 78 Lights 79 Drive Shaft Boot and Protector 81...

Страница 9: ...F CONTENTS WARRANTY BRP LIMITED WARRANTY USA AND CANADA 2013 CAN AM COMMANDER ELECTRIC SIDE BY SIDE VEHICLES 100 CUSTOMER INFORMATION PRIVACY INFORMATION 106 CHANGE OF ADDRESS OWNERSHIP 107 6 ________...

Страница 10: ...SAFETY INFORMATION ________ SAFETY INFORMATION ________ 7...

Страница 11: ...on cord to connect vehicle to electrical outlet Avoid Burns from Hot Parts Certain components become hot dur ing operation Avoid contact during and shortly after operation to avoid burns Accessories a...

Страница 12: ...o find out about training course avail ability and perform the practice exer cises in PRACTICE EXERCISES sec tion Practice driving in a suitable area free of hazards and feel the response of each cont...

Страница 13: ...ways go at a speed that is proper for the terrain visibility and operat ing conditions and your experience Never attempt jumps side slides donuts or any other stunts Never attempt rapid acceleration o...

Страница 14: ...n oper ating over obstacles as described in RIDING THE VEHICLE subsection Never operate this vehicle in fast flowing water or in water deeper than specified in RIDING THE VE HICLE subsection Remember...

Страница 15: ...ble Verify charging cable is disconnected from power outlet Tires Check tire pressure and condition Refer to vehicle label or SPECIFICATIONS in this guide Wheels Check wheels and lug nuts for damage D...

Страница 16: ...tion when released Steering Check if steering operates freely by completely turning it from side to side Mirrors Adjust mirrors to your preference Items to be Checked in Key ON position ITEMS TO BE IN...

Страница 17: ...ify level of battery charge is sufficient for planned trip Parking brake Shift from park and listen for the release sound of the parking brake mechanism Power Switch Turn the key to the OFF position t...

Страница 18: ...8 001 019_a RIDING GEAR 1 Approved helmet 2 Eye and face protection 3 Long sleeves shirt or jacket 4 Gloves 5 Long pants 6 Boots over the ankle footwear Weather conditions should help you decide how t...

Страница 19: ...steering wheel and help reduce hand fatigue Sturdy rein forced motorcycle or ATV gloves help protect hands better in the event of an accident or a rollover If gloves are too bulky it may be difficult...

Страница 20: ...he wheels Riding the vehicle with the rear dif ferential in the locked position af fects vehicle handling and control This vehicle should be driven with the rear differential in the unlock position ex...

Страница 21: ...vy traffic or high speed traffic should be avoided to reduce the risk of collisions You should never op erate in zones where you become an obstacle and an annoyance for faster moving traffic It is als...

Страница 22: ...ent exercises We recommend releasing the throttle before entering a turn to help initiate directional change You will feel the lateral force increasing with the speed and with your steer ing input The...

Страница 23: ...be operated on steep or treacherous terrain General Riding Techniques General Driving Tips Care caution experience and driving skill are the best precautions against the hazards of vehicle operation...

Страница 24: ...g accelerator and brake pedals for inter ference free operation Whenever this vehicle is ridden on a snow covered drive path the tire grip is generally reduced causing the ve hicle to react differentl...

Страница 25: ...ddition braking dis tance may be affected Remember that gunning the throttle or sliding may cause loose stones to be ejected rearwards into the path of another rider s way Never do it deliberately If...

Страница 26: ...Never slam brakes and lock the wheels Side Hilling Whenever possible sidehilling driv ing across a slope rather than up or down it should be avoided If neces sary do so with extreme caution Side hilli...

Страница 27: ...better choice of appropriate safe distance This vehicle like any other motorized vehicle cannot stop on a dime Before you ride tell someone where you are planning to travel and your ex pected time of...

Страница 28: ...eight LOAD LIMIT OF THE VEHICLE 363 kg 800 lb Includes occupants cargo tongue weight and added accessories Following are examples of suitable total vehicle load distribution EXAMPLES OF SUITABLE VEHIC...

Страница 29: ...he brake lights with the cargo Ensure no cargo protrudes outside the box and that cargo will not interfere with your visibility or control of the vehicle Do not overload cargo box Close both tailgates...

Страница 30: ...ox before you actuate the release handle The load weight may affect the operation of the cargo box tilt ing feature tilting or lowering Be very careful with the operation of the tail gates and cargo b...

Страница 31: ...ehicle In some instances a special extension may have to be installed on the vehicle hitch Use security chains or cables to secure the trailer with the vehicle Improperly loading a trailer may cause l...

Страница 32: ...nd they should be considered per manent parts of the vehicle If missing or damaged they can be replaced free of charge See an authorized Can Am dealer NOTE In the event of any discrep ancy between thi...

Страница 33: ...IMPORTANT ON PRODUCT LABELS tmo2013 007 005_c tmo2013 006 012_a TYPICAL 30 _______ SAFETY INFORMATION ________...

Страница 34: ...fast Avoid hard acceleration when turning even from a stop Never attempt donuts skids slides fishtails jumps or other stunts Avoid side hilling riding across slopes and steep hills Drive slowly when...

Страница 35: ...repare to Ride Fasten net and seat belt Wear an approved helmet and other protective gear when riding off road You can also wear a helmet when riding on road to reduce the risk of injury in the event...

Страница 36: ...IMPORTANT ON PRODUCT LABELS 704902420C LABEL 4 33 Driver must be at least 16 years old with a valid driver s license 704903309 LABEL 5 ________ SAFETY INFORMATION ________ 33...

Страница 37: ...IMPORTANT ON PRODUCT LABELS 704902413C LABEL 6 704902415D LABEL 7 704902336B LABEL 8 34 _______ SAFETY INFORMATION ________...

Страница 38: ...underinflated tire can come off the rim COLD tire pressure ALL TIRES 124 kPa 18 psi 704902912 704902912 LABEL 12 Differential Lock Settings Rear differential lock for general off road use Keep differ...

Страница 39: ...To reduce the risk of serious injury or death from electric shock Do not tamper with batteries cables or electrical components Only a BRP qualified technician should service this vihicule 704902917 LA...

Страница 40: ...ians and bikers and use horn if needed This is a Low Speed Vehicle LSV intended for limited use on and off road Check local laws for limitations on use Read the operator s guide to learn how LSVs are...

Страница 41: ...RR AR kg lbs GAWR PNBE TYPEDEV HICULEAUCANADA VBV TYPEOFVEHICLEINCANADA LSV THISVEHICLECONFORMSTOALLAPPLICABLEU S FEDERALMOTORVEHICLESAFETY STANDARDS FMVSS INEFFECTONTHEDATEOFMANUFACTURESHOWNABOVE V...

Страница 42: ...VEHICLE INFORMATION _______________ 39...

Страница 43: ...ng wheel in the direc tion you want to go tmo2011 002 051_a 1 Steering wheel Grip the steering wheel with both hands without having thumbs rolled around the steering wheel CAUTION Under rough trail co...

Страница 44: ...switch is turned to either ON positions and shift lever is in one of the following posi tions Reverse R High range H Low range L tmo2011 001 001_a 1 Brake pedal 2 Accelerator pedal To increase or mai...

Страница 45: ...mo tor s RPM is limited thus limiting the vehicle reverse speed to approx imately 20 km h 12 MPH WARNING When driving downhill in reverse gravity can increase the vehicle speed above the set limited...

Страница 46: ...itch is located on the up per console area tmo2012 005 044_a TYPICAL 1 Power switch tmo2012 005 034_a TYPICAL POWER SWITCH POSITION 1 OFF 2 ON with lights 3 ON OFF The key can be inserted or removed i...

Страница 47: ...n the multifunction lever is in the middle position the low beam is se lected Push the multifunction lever forward to select high beam Pull back the multifunction lever to re turn to low beam NOTE The...

Страница 48: ...h cannot be activated and the differential lock settings will not be taken into account 5 ECO Mode Switch The ECO mode switch is located on the upper console tmo2012 005 044_e TYPICAL 1 ECO mode switc...

Страница 49: ...n The winch can be controlled from in side the vehicle with the winch control switch located in the upper console tmo2012 005 044_g TYPICAL 1 Winch switch The winch also comes with a remote control lo...

Страница 50: ...dshield washer switch is lo cated on the top near roll cage Press on the windshield washer switch to activate windshield washer dispenser Filling Windshield Washer Reservoir Open windshield washer res...

Страница 51: ...e Analog digital is comprised of a digital gauge and two analog gauges speedometer and power regeneration scale The motor temperature and battery level bar graphs are comprised in the digital gauge Th...

Страница 52: ...essing the SET S button will scroll through the functions of the secondary digital display FUNCTION SEQUENCE INFORMATION DISPLAYED Clock XX XX 24 00 time base XX XX A or P 12 00 AM PM time base Motor...

Страница 53: ...osition ON ECO Mode engaged ON Check motor ON Low battery charge ON Rear differential locked Flashing Turn signal or hazard warning lights flashing WARNING Passenger seat belt is not monitored 7 Main...

Страница 54: ...ndary Digital Display Displays useful real time information to the rider For display function informa tions refer to SET S BUTTON 11 Drive Mode Position Indicator Displays the selected mode position 1...

Страница 55: ...EQUIPMENT 4 3 7 2 6 5 1 7 tmo2011 001 056_a TYPICAL tmo2011 002 559_d 52 ______________...

Страница 56: ...ver toward you 2 Move steering wheel to the desired position 3 Release tilt lever to lock steering wheel in position tmo2011 002 050_a TYPICAL 1 Tilt lever WARNING Never adjust the steering wheel heig...

Страница 57: ...objects tmo2011 001 515_a 1 Glove box latch GLOVE BOX CAPACITY MAXIMUM LOAD 5 kg 11 lb 5 Tool Kit A tool kit with basic tools is provided It is located in the glove box 6 Winch Remote Control Option...

Страница 58: ...th adjustment straps to tighten tmo2011 001 701_a TYPICAL 1 Adjustment straps 9 Shoulder Guards The vehicle is equipped with shoulder guards to help restrain the entire body of driver and passenger in...

Страница 59: ...ck the seat Release the lever to lock the seat into desired position WARNING Never adjust the seat position while driving The driver s seat can be removed eas ily Tilt seat forward by releasing latch...

Страница 60: ...ence WARNING Do not adjust mirror while riding You could lose control 16 Cargo Box The vehicle is equipped with a 2 level inclinable cargo box The cargo box may be used for various types of cargo WARN...

Страница 61: ...oint in order to secure cargo inside the cargo box 4 anchoring hooks are located inside the cargo area 19 Upper Tailgate The upper section of the cargo box can be closed with a tailgate tmo2011 001 00...

Страница 62: ...be fore operating to reduce the risk of loss of load 21 Hitch support The vehicle comes equipped with a 51 mm x 51 mm box size standard hitch support For the proper usage of the hitch sup port refer t...

Страница 63: ...t Proceed methodically until you are satisfied Following are guidelines to fine tune suspension Suspension Factory Settings To adjust compression setting proceed as follows Use tool provided in tool k...

Страница 64: ...Spring length should be equal on both sides Adjust by turning adjusting cam Use tool from vehicle tool kit tmo2012 005 020_a TYPICAL 1 Turn adjusting cams 2 Smooth adjustment 3 Hard adjustment _______...

Страница 65: ...ssary for lithium Ion batteries as they readily provide their full performance Battery Locations Batteries are in the following locations Under driver s seat 2 Under passenger s seat 3 Under central c...

Страница 66: ...he current out put is reduced to the flashing indicator level 80 Charge Amber Display Solid Bulk charge phase complete 80 charge reached Charger begins absorption phase 100 Charge Green Display Solid...

Страница 67: ...tension cord to power outlet 4 Allow battery to charge completely NOTE Batteries require a minimum of 8 hours of charge if completely dis charged Battery Operating Range Battery Operating Range is aff...

Страница 68: ...ents were damaged have vehicle transported to your nearest Can Am dealer WARNING Never operate vehicle if damaged WARNING After any accidents or impact have your batteries inspected and your battery v...

Страница 69: ...a strap around the lower arm of each front suspension 4 2 Attach the straps to the winch cable of the towing vehicle 4 3 Pull the vehicle on the trailer with the winch All Vehicles 5 Put key to the O...

Страница 70: ...e 5 Center skid plate Lower hydraulic lift and ensure vehi cle is supported safely onto both jack stands Rear of Vehicle Place vehicle on a flat non slippery ground Activate 4WD mode Ensure vehicle sh...

Страница 71: ...LIFTING AND SUPPORTING THE VEHICLE This page is intentionally blank 68 ______________...

Страница 72: ...MAINTENANCE _______________ 69...

Страница 73: ...authorized Can Am dealer The break in inspection is very important and must not be neglected NOTE The break in inspection is at the expense of the vehicle owner We recommend that this inspection be s...

Страница 74: ...IN INSPECTION CHART INSPECT MOTOR Motor connection X X GEARBOX Gearbox oil X ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Battery connections X X DRIVE SYSTEM Front rear differential oil X Front rear differential seals and vent...

Страница 75: ...heel nuts studs X X Wheel bearings X X STEERING SYSTEM Steering system column bearing etc X Front wheel alignment X BRAKES Brake fluid X Park brake X X OCCUPANT RESTRAINT SYSTEM Seat belts X Side nets...

Страница 76: ...the drive shaft boots and protectors Inspect passenger grab handles condition Inspect hitch condition Inspect driver and passenger seat latch operation Inspect tailgates latch operation Verify brake...

Страница 77: ...belts check for any damages and proper operation Inspect side nets check for any damages and they must buckle properly Inspect the gearbox oil level and condition Inspect wheel bearings Inspect the s...

Страница 78: ...AINTENANCE SCHEDULE EVERY 6 000 KM 4 000 MI OR 300 HOURS OF OPERATION OR 2 YEARS WHICHEVER COMES FIRST Replace the front differential oil Replace gearbox oil Replace the brake fluid _______________ 75...

Страница 79: ...astener etc always replace it with a new one Front and Rear Differential Oil Front Differential Oil Level Verification Clean filler plug prior to checking oil level tmo2012 005 029_a FRONT RIGHT SIDE...

Страница 80: ...erification Ensure vehicle is on a level surface Select PARK position Clean filler plug area Remove filler plug tmo2012 005 026_a LH REAR SIDE OF VEHICLE 1 Filler plug Oil level is leveled with the bo...

Страница 81: ...tamper with electrical compo nents or cables Servicing elec trical components should be done by an authorized Can Am dealer Fuses Fuse Replacement If a fuse is burnt replace it by one of the same rati...

Страница 82: ...FBP1 10 A NOTE Fuses are identified inside fuse box cover Lights Always check light operation after re placement Headlight Replacement NOTICE Never touch glass portion of a halogen bulb with bare fin...

Страница 83: ...5 in below scribed line 90 A 1 B tmr2011 030 002_a 1 Light beam center A 5 m 17 ft B 131 mm 5 in 90 2 1 90 tmr2011 030 001_a 1 Headlight center lines 2 Light beam center Beam Aiming Adjustment Turn ad...

Страница 84: ...tors for damage or rub bing against shafts Check boots for cracks tears leaking grease etc Repair or replace damaged parts as necessary tmo2012 005 032_a FRONT OF VEHICLE WHEEL REMOVED FOR CLARITY 1 I...

Страница 85: ...ways use the recom mended wheel nuts for the type of wheel Using a different nut could cause damages to the rim or studs Tire Pressure WARNING Tire pressure greatly affects vehi cle handling and stabi...

Страница 86: ...ront A arms There are three grease fittings on each A arm oriented downwards tmo2011 001 064_a TYPICAL FRONT SUSPENSION 1 Grease fittings Suspension Inspection See an authorized Can Am dealer if any p...

Страница 87: ...prop erly positioned Recommended Brake Fluid Always use brake fluid meeting the specification DOT 4 only WARNING To avoid serious damage to the braking system do not use fluids other than the recomme...

Страница 88: ...the vehicle USE LOW PRES SURE ONLY like a garden hose High pressure can cause damage to electrical or mechanical components Pay attention to certain areas where mud or debris can accumulate and po te...

Страница 89: ...ing storage period NOTICE Not keeping battery charged for a prolonged period of time will lead to premature battery failure Vehicle should be stored in a moderate temperature environment Avoid ex trem...

Страница 90: ...TECHNICAL INFORMATION _______________ 87...

Страница 91: ...ification Number MANUFACTUREDBY FABRIQU PAR BOMBARDIERRECREATIONALPRODUCTSINC BOMBARDIERPRODUITSR CR ATIFINC DATE CURBWEIGHT POIDSENORDREDEMARCHE kg lbs GVWR PNBV kg lbs FR AV kg lbs RR AR kg lbs GAWR...

Страница 92: ...r setting in High mode 6400 RPM MAX BATTERIES Type AGM Sealed Lead Acid Batteries Rated voltage 12 volts 48 volts for vehicle and motor total Charging 110 V AC grounded power outlet GEARBOX Type Helic...

Страница 93: ...10 A Fuses DRIVE SYSTEM Drive system type Selectable 2WD 4WD Front 650 ml 22 U S oz Capacity Rear 850 ml 28 7 U S oz Front XPS Synthetic gear oil 75W 90 API GL 5 P N 293 600 043 or synthetic oil 75W...

Страница 94: ...nt TTI with external sway bar Suspension travel 254 mm 10 in Qty 2 Shock absorber Type Oil 5 settings BRAKES Front brake Type Dual 214mm ventilated disc brakes with hydraulic twin piston calipers Rear...

Страница 95: ...uminum Front 14 x 7 in Rim size Rear 14 x 8 5 in Wheel nuts torque 100 N m 10 N m 74 lbf ft 7 lbf ft CHASSIS Cage type 50 mm 2 in diameter high strength steel Hitch support 50 8 mm 2 in x 50 8 mm 2 in...

Страница 96: ...b Weight distribution front rear 40 60 Total 272 kg 600 lb Upper 181 kg 400 lb Cargo box capacity Lower 272 kg 600 lb Total vehicle load allowed including driver passenger all other loads and added ac...

Страница 97: ...SPECIFICATIONS 94 ______________...

Страница 98: ...TROUBLESHOOTING _______________ 95...

Страница 99: ...ecked by an authorized Can Am dealer 3 Burnt fuse s Check fuses VEHICLE IS ON BUT DOES NOT MOVE 1 Vehicle is still charging Verify that charging cord is detached 2 Parking brake is still engaged Put g...

Страница 100: ...ll go to neutral Contact an authorized Can Am dealer TAS FAULT Throttle Actuator Sensor Fault If this message appears vehicle will go to neutral Contact an authorized Can Am dealer ECM CRC ERROR Error...

Страница 101: ...MESSAGES IN MULTIFUNCTION GAUGE 98 ______________...

Страница 102: ...WARRANTY _______________ 99...

Страница 103: ...THEY CANNOT BE DISCLAIMED THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES ARE LIMITED IN DURATION TO THE LIFE OF THE EXPRESS WARRANTY INCIDENTAL AND CONSE QUENTIAL DAMAGES ARE EXCLUDED FROM COVERAGE UNDER THIS WARRANTY SOME...

Страница 104: ...FF ROAD MODELS SIX 6 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS for private use or commercial use owners Notwithstanding the foregoing the warranty coverage of the batteries is the following AGM batteries lead acid type are...

Страница 105: ...occurred Can Am SSV dealer The BRP specified pre delivery inspection process must be completed and doc umented and signed by the purchaser The 2013 Commander Electric must have undergone proper regis...

Страница 106: ...ountry of original sale the owner will bear responsibility for any additional charges due to local practices and conditions such as but not limited to freight insurance taxes license fees import dutie...

Страница 107: ...3 Tel 819 566 3366 BRP US Inc CAN AM SSV CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE CENTER 7575 Bombardier Court Wausau WI 54401 Tel 715 848 4957 In the USA products are distributed and serviced by BRP US Inc 2012 Bombardie...

Страница 108: ...CUSTOMER INFORMATION ______________ 105...

Страница 109: ...mer list to distribute marketing and promotional information about BRP and related products To exercise your right to consult or correct your data or to be removed from the ad dressee list for direct...

Страница 110: ...essary like when safety recalls are initiated It is the owner s responsibility to notify BRP STOLEN UNITS If your personal vehicle is stolen you should notify BRP or an authorized Can Am dealer We wil...

Страница 111: ...CHANGE OF ADDRESS OWNERSHIP This page is intentionally blank 108 ______________...

Страница 112: ...CHANGE OF ADDRESS OWNERSHIP ______________ 109...

Страница 113: ...CHANGE OF ADDRESS OWNERSHIP 110 ______________...

Страница 114: ...celeration when turning even from a stop Never attempt donuts skids slides fishtails jumps or other stunts Avoid side hilling riding across slopes and steep hills Drive slowly when descending grades A...

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