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With RCA 245 tubes

With EML 45 tubes

From historical production all 45 can be used when they have sufficient emission.    This can be seen 
from the plate current on the meter, it must be approximately 32mA, and not drop at high loudness.  

End-of-Life with 45 tubes.  

  It is hard to say with only the amplifier at hand, if this point has been 

reached.       Weak   tubes   will   give   at   first   a   less   quality   sound,     a   more   fuzzy   sound,   and   loose 
dynamics.This can be heard by experienced listeners, but is hard to describe here.  The tubes can be in 
that condition for some time, and/or start to loose Bias on the meter already at that moment, or later.  
Allways, what you should do, before starting to use an 45 tubes, write down the initial value on the 
base of the tube, with a sticker. Later, if you want to know if a tube has lost emission, it is very good to 
compare with that initial value. Of course, the absolute value is also imporant, but most important is a 
change from the initial value, because only the CHANGE will indicate something. Note, that some 
lowering of the bias current is normal when the tubes get older, and is not allways a bad sign. So 
absolute values can not be given here.  Example:  A new tube gives 35mA  and after a long time you 
see it starts to drop, and will go down steadily to a value like 29mA. So some part of the life time has 
been used up.  How much that is, can not be said.   However if new tubes give 29mA they have full 
100% lifetime ahead of them. So, the main function of the meter is to write down the initial value for 
each tube,  and compare with that later.  The number itself is less important unless it gets very low, or 
unless is drops at high sound levels.     

Any problems with  sound disappearing for 0.5 seconds after a tone with high loudness,  means the 45 
tubes are at the end of life definitely. 

Tube burn in.

   This is necessary with new  45 tubes, and also with used tubes that have been stored 

for more than 2 years.  Though normal function will appear,  the initial sound is harsh and unpleasant 
sometimes. Just use the tubes normally for a period of 50…100 hours and good sound will develop 
surprizingly at the end of the burn in period.

717A tubes.

   These are in the family of the famous Western Electric 408A tube, though not the same 

tube. Because of the metal shielded sides,  717A is very suited for HiFi.   With 717A there are many 
used and weak tubes for sale, and we can only say, never buy those from people who can not tell you 
if the tubes are good, have no microphonic, and no crack noise. Also NOS tubes come out of the boxes 
“weak” sometimes from too long storage. It appears these can not be recovered to good condition if so. 
However such 717A that appear to be good, will stay so for many years longer.  The only way to test 
717A is on a tube tester giving results in Mili Ampere. Any “Good/bad” scale testers can not test this 
tube well. Always be sure that if you buy them,  there has been a microphonics test done as well.  Last 
warning is for auctions, there are many so called new tubes, that are sold with very low test values.  

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Summary of Contents for A08-S

Page 1: ...e A08 S is supplied by the factory as pictured above with 8 Ohms output A special version can be ordered such as amplifiers designed for Western Electric 205D tubes or a 16 Ohms output Materials used The wood is cherry which is beautiful looking by itself but not very suitable to construct a tube amplifier directly So before use the wood is specially treated by Yamamoto called the Shashih process ...

Page 2: ... Saving money on tubes is the worst you can do when good sound is what you want However buying triple selected tubes from obscure specialists is often a waist of money So buy good tubes from people that use good equipment and make no secret about how they test tubes A non documented tube test may be good but a documented tube test may is more professional Here is some information on the particular...

Page 3: ...ter The number itself is less important unless it gets very low or unless is drops at high sound levels Any problems with sound disappearing for 0 5 seconds after a tone with high loudness means the 45 tubes are at the end of life definitely Tube burn in This is necessary with new 45 tubes and also with used tubes that have been stored for more than 2 years Though normal function will appear the i...

Page 4: ...t though it is always a good idea with anybrand tube amplifier to check it from the inside latest after 10 years Do a careful visual inspection of all components and re tighten all screws moderately so good ground connections are still present It is amazing to see sometimes that tube amplifiers are constructed such that this is impossible Not so with the A08 S The bottom cover of the A08 S is one ...

Page 5: ...nputs connected and all tubes inserted Exception 717A tubes read next part below When switching on observe if the meter reaches approximately 32mA for both channels Otherwise switch off and clear this first Do not experiment if the 45 tubes bias not at expected It is normal if there is some overshoot of the Bias current immediately after switch on for 0 5 to 1 second After this bias must move towa...

Page 6: ...PHM has two male RCA connectors but versions from XLR to RCA exist also Recommended speakers Yamamoto YS 500 Yamamoto YS 604 Sensitivity needed 98dB or more Notes for Avantgarde Speakers Though several of these can be 16 Ohms these will work very good on the 8 Ohms Version A08 S If there is any hum issue read the above section about ground loops you may need the Lundahl interconnect cable from the...

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