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Installation and Servicing

 FLUE OUTLET

SECTION 2 - INSTALLATION

2.11 INSTALLING THE FLUE

FITTING FLUE THROUGH THE WALL

1.  Measure wall thickness and add 14mm.

2.  Measure from the outer terminal lip towards the end of outer flue, place a 

small location mark at the dimension acquired at point 1.

3.  Add a further 14mm to the dimension, obtain at item 1 (point 1) and place 

an additional small location mark.

4.  Fit external black wall seal ensuring the inside of the outer lip is in contact 

with the terminal lip you have been measuring from (see fig 1)

5.  Fit the internal wall seal approximately 65mm before the outer of 

the 2 location marks.

6.  For an internal fit place flue terminal in the centre of the 5” drilled 

hole in the wall.  Apply pressure and lightly move the flue left to 

right or up and down.  This will cause the outer flange to fold in 

and allow the flue to pass through the wall.

7.  Push through a further 65mm or until the inner flange is press 

against the inner wall.  This will allow the outer flange to return to 

its original shape.

8.  Pull back the flue until the first of the 2 location marks is level with 

the internal face of the wall.

 

Note. If the 2 location marks are not visible then the flue is not 

pulled back far enough to obtain the correct seal.  If the 1st location mark has passed the face of the wall the flue has been 

pulled to far back and the outer wall seal will have been dislodged from its mounting and will need to be refitted.

9.  When 1st mark is in line with the wall, whilst holding the flue firmly, push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd 

of the two marks is just visible.  If the last location mark is clearly passed the white inner wall seal then the outer wall seal will 

have been dislodged from its mounting and will need to be re-fitted.

10. Ensure the seam and the outlet terminal are at the top and fitted as shown.

Note. If 

less than 50% of the length of the flue is internal the flue should be fitted from outside.

FITTING THE TURRET - 

Ensure the condense trap/siphon is filled with water

1.  Ensure the rubber seal is fitted correctly on the appliance manifold and that all flue seals are undamaged.
2.  Hold the flue firmly and push the turret on until it has travelled 30mm on to the flue pipe and is fully engaged.  Make sure the 

flue has not rotated or moved forward during fitting and the flue seam is upper most.

3.  Push the turret into the manifold ensuring the upper plastic lip is flush with the top of the manifold.
4.  Fully engage the clamp location section into the manifold location holes.  Rotate down on to turret flange.

5.  Secure clamp to appliance using securing screw.

6.  Ensure all sample points are accessible and all sample plugs and caps are fitted.

Ensure lip of wall seal is positioned  

over step on plastic nose of flue terminal

(note, seal is cut away for clarity)

Terminal Lip

Wall Seal Lip

Location

mark 1

Location

mark 2

Rubber 

Terminal

Wall Seal

Terminal

MUST be

fitted as

shown

Retaining 

screw

Clamp Lugs

Sample points

Flue Outlet

C

A

A - Duct Assembly

B - Flue Turret

C - Turret Clamp

D - Seal

Flue Outlet

D

B

Fig 1

Summary of Contents for LOGIC SYSTEM S15IE

Page 1: ...not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Heating For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website idealhe...

Page 2: ...Full Load P4 kW 15 1 18 0 24 3 30 3 Part Load P1 kW 4 9 5 9 8 0 9 9 Auxiliary Electricity Consumption Full Load elmax kW 0 021 0 026 0 042 0 048 Part Load elmin kW 0 012 0 013 0 013 0 013 Standby PSB...

Page 3: ...s VII Class VIII 1 2 1 5 2 3 4 3 5 5 PRODUCT FICHE The energy efficiency of the package of products provided for in this document may not correspond to its actual energy efficiency once installed in a...

Page 4: ...4 Installation and Servicing...

Page 5: ...ithout notice FOR ANY TECHNICAL QUERIES PLEASE RING THE IDEAL INSTALLER HELPLINE 44 0 1482 498704 NOTE BOILER RESTART PROCEDURE To restart the boiler press the RESTART button The boiler will repeat th...

Page 6: ...6 Installation and Servicing...

Page 7: ...essing the Installer Mode 38 2 27 Handing Over 38 3 SERVICING 39 3 1 Servicing Schedule 39 3 2 Boiler Front Panel Removal Replacement 40 3 3 Fan And Venturi Assembly Removal and Cleaning 40 3 4 Burner...

Page 8: ...t3 h divide the gross heat input Btu h by the gross C V of the gas Btu ft3 d For m3 h multiply l s by 3 6 Key to symbols GB United Kingdom IE Ireland Countries of destination PMS Maximum operating pre...

Page 9: ...mbination boilers only Scale reducer 16 Hot water mode Heat input to be calculated Max operating burner pressure n a Max operating water pressure measure record Cold water inlet temp measure record Ho...

Page 10: ...the boiler is routed downwards Data Plate The boiler model and serial number can be located on the bottom of the boiler casing shown in Section 1 16 Water Gas Connection Diagram 1 2 OPERATION When the...

Page 11: ...vice not approved by Ideal Heating could invalidate the certification and the normal appliance warranty It could also infringe the Gas Safety Regulations and the above regulations 1 6 SAFE HANDLING OF...

Page 12: ...mes 3 Minimum acceptable spacing from the terminal to obstructions and ventilation openings are specified in Table 4 Only one reduction down to 25mm is allowable per installation otherwise BS5440 1 20...

Page 13: ...iator valves are used the space heating temperature control over a living dining area or hallway having a heating requirement of at least 10 of the minimum boiler heat output should be achieved using...

Page 14: ...e installed from inside the building where wall thicknesses do not exceed 600mm 24 Where the space into which the boiler is going to be installed is less than the length of flue required the flue must...

Page 15: ...boiler Guidance on vessel sizing is given in table opposite 5 Filling The system may be filled by the following method Through a temporary hose connection from a draw off tap supplied from a service...

Page 16: ...Water Treatment in accordance with the Benchmark Guidance Notes on Water Treatment in Central Heating Systems If water treatment is used Ideal Heating recommend only the use of SCALEMASTER SM 1 PRO F...

Page 17: ...ET BURNER 219 SUMP CLEAN OUT COVER 223 FLUE MANIFOLD 224 FLUE MANIFOLD TOP 227 CLAMP RETAINING FLUE TURRET 228 HOSE CONDENSATE INTERNAL 229 SIPHON TRAP 231 CONDENSATE OUTLET CONNECTION 302 PCB 304 CON...

Page 18: ...Installation Users Instructions E Wall Mounting Template located on internal protective packaging F Boiler Guarantee Registration Pack C A D F B E Boiler Guarantee HARDWARE PACK CONTENTS Gas Valve Pac...

Page 19: ...L REMOVAL Note This flue system incorporates a removable flue outlet nose that utilises a push fit location system This enables the installation of deflector high level or balcony outlet flue kits wit...

Page 20: ...L IMPORTANT Ensure that during the cutting operation masonry falling outside of the building does not cause damage or personal injury 1 Cut the flue hole preferably with a 5 core boring tool ensuring...

Page 21: ...re in place Additional Termination Kits available for use with these B packs Flue Deflector Kit The resistance is the equivalent of 1 metre of flue pipe and therefore must be deducted from any maximum...

Page 22: ...Terminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Cut 75mm Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum B Pack Standard 181 556 286 484 601 816 526 741 Plus 1 1m D pack 1121 1506 1236 1434 155...

Page 23: ...et terminal is upper most 4 Drill a 3 5mm hole through one of the 2 outer side holes in the outer flue section into the inserted outer flue as shown Take care not to pierce the inner plastic flue Fit...

Page 24: ...to be refitted 9 When 1st mark is in line with the wall whilst holding the flue firmly push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd of the two marks is just visible If the last locatio...

Page 25: ...rately supplied vertical connector WEATHER PROOFING Where the flue passes through the roof line an adequate seal must be made This is achieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Universal wea...

Page 26: ...enetrate the shaded area of the roof Note The equivalent flue length resistance of the elbow kits are 90o elbow kit 1m 45o elbow kit 0 6m If chimney penetrates dotted area such that A is less than 300...

Page 27: ...ector kit 3 Secure the vertical connector by applying downward pressure on the connector 4 Position the clamp on the top face of the flue manifold and push it horizontally backwards Locate both clamp...

Page 28: ...harge point such as an internal soil and vent stack or internal kitchen or bathroom waste pipe etc fig 3 External Drain Connections The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should only be...

Page 29: ...ipe Water Weather proof insulation Max 3m external pipework Limestone chippings 500 300 25 75 2 rows of three 12mm holes 25mm centres 50mm from the bottom of the tube facing away from the house Minimu...

Page 30: ...nnection For additional gas supply information refer to Gas Supply on page 12 SAFETY VALVE DRAIN The safety valve connection located at the bottom right hand side of the boiler comprises a 15mm diamet...

Page 31: ...s must be connected to a permanent live supply and NOT switched by thermostats programmers If the supply cord is damaged it must be replaced by the manufacturer service agent or similarly qualified pe...

Page 32: ...HW OFF Y PLAN VALVE Logic System S IE BOILER WITH Y PLAN SYSTEM br br o g y b b g y g g L N E L N E CH ON R S ON HW ON HW OFF C S ON FUSED SPUR TIMER CH ON L N HW ON HW S PLAN VALVE CH S PLAN VALVE R...

Page 33: ...ing the control box back up into the operating position and re fit the front panel ensuring a good seal is made NOTE When making the mains electrical connections to the boiler it is important that the...

Page 34: ...CH LIVE IGNITION LIVE PE X2 PUMP LIVE DHW LIVE X3 PUMP GND X9 X8 OWC OWC OPENTHERM OPENTHERM OPENTHERM 5V CHIP COM BUS TX CHIP COM BUS 24V CHIP COM BUS GND CHIP COM BUS 5V CHIP COM BUS RX MAINS LIVE...

Page 35: ...has been checked adjusted and preset at the factory for operation on the gas type defined on the appliance data plate DO NOT adjust the air gas ratio valve Having checked That the boiler has been inst...

Page 36: ...ve L is closed and that the CH isolating valve F and K are OPEN 4 Check that the electrical supply is OFF 5 Check that the boiler mode control knob B is OFF 6 Check that the gas service cock J is OPEN...

Page 37: ...for soundness The system pressure will increase with temperature rise but should not exceed 2 5 bar 3 With the system still hot turn off the gas water and electricity supplies to the boiler and drain...

Page 38: ...ist before handover to the customer For IE its is necessary to complete a Declaration of Conformity to indicate compliance to I S 813 2002 IMPORTANT 11 A comprehensive service should be carried out AN...

Page 39: ...rs requirements and Competence can be demonstrated by satisfactory completion of the CPA1 ACS assessment which covers the use of electronic portable combustion gas analysers in accordance with BS7967...

Page 40: ...e two M4 screws and release the nozzle assembly 6 Inspect the injector for blockage or damage 7 Inspect fan outlet sealing gasket and replace if necessary 1 2 3 5 Injector REMOVAL 1 Loosen the two scr...

Page 41: ...MPORTANT The burner head is a ceramic plaque construction Care must be taken to ensure that the burner is not placed down upon its face as this may cause damage to the ceramic 6 Brush off any deposits...

Page 42: ...ction gaps are correct Refer to Sections 3 13 3 14 1 Ignition Electrode Flame Detection Reassemble the boiler in the following order 1 Ensure that the condensate trap siphon is full of water 2 Refit t...

Page 43: ...iler Refer to Section 3 19 THE BOILER MUST NOT BE OPERATED WITHOUT THE FRONT PANEL FITTED 3 9 FAN REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 3 Remove the clip fr...

Page 44: ...r ensuring that the new gas seal supplied is located correctly in the injector housing 10 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 11 BURNER REPLACEMENT 5 5 6 1 See Section 3 4 2 Re...

Page 45: ...ons as shown 8 Reassemble in reverse order 9 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 12 RETURN THERMISTOR REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Unclip the return thermistor from...

Page 46: ...der ensuring that the the earth lead is replaced 6 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 Flame Detection Electrode 12 5mm Straight edge 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Remove the burner R...

Page 47: ...ealing washer are in place and reconnect gas and electrical connections 7 Ensure all gas valve connections are gas tight with a gas soundness check up to the gas control valve 8 Check operation of the...

Page 48: ...box cover 4 Unplug all lead connections to the PCB 5 Remove the 2 screws if applicable 6 Spring out the four side retaining clips and pull the PCB upwards to clear the corner retaining posts 7 Take t...

Page 49: ...and secure with the C clip 7 Refill the boiler 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 20 PRESSURE GAUGE REPLACEMENT 5 4 3 21 SAFETY RELIEF VALVE REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Sect...

Page 50: ...6 Reassembly is the reverse of the above Ensure the air vent head o ring seal is in place when refitting and the new o ring is fitted to the return pipe top connection 7 Ensure the air vent cap is loo...

Page 51: ...r to Section 2 16 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 25 CONTROL NO FLOW THERMISTOR REPLACEMENT 4 3 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Drain the boiler Refer to Section 3 19 3 Pull...

Page 52: ...correctly match connecting pipe diameters 18 Ensure the trap siphon is filled with water Refer to Secion 3 17 19 Refill the boiler Refer to Section 2 16 20 Ensure all gas valve connections are gas ti...

Page 53: ...H circuit Refer to Section 3 19 7 Remove the retaining clip on the vessel water connection pipe 8 Support the expansion vessel and unscrew the 2 screws from the securing clamp located on the top of th...

Page 54: ...CHECK THERMISTORS ARE CLIPPED ONTO PIPES Note burner will be switched off for 2 mins between attempts Function inactive if temperature is 40 C GO TO SECTION 4 6 FLAME LOSS GO TO SECTION 4 7 FAN FAULT...

Page 55: ...k siphon and condensate drain pipe work for blockage and rectify if necessary Boiler now working OK Check wiring connection from gas valve to PCB for continuity If the wiring is OK then replace the PC...

Page 56: ...supply available at the Gas Valve while the flame is on YES Check spark generator and associated harness for continuity and visual condition Refer to Section 3 15 Are these functioning correctly YES C...

Page 57: ...k the resistance using a suitable multimeter connected across the Outside Sensors terminal pins At 0 o C expect 31 000 35 000 Ohms At 15 o C expect 15 000 16 500 Ohms At 30 o C expect 7 700 8 500 Ohms...

Page 58: ...ge from the Timer Room Stat This is not boiler fault Ensure Voltage is supplied to boiler by rectifying external wiring 4 13 NO DISPLAY Is there 230Vac to the boiler at L and N see Section 4 11 NO Sup...

Page 59: ...tails of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on idealparts com Our Parts team are also available to help with your Ideal Spare Parts enquiries on 01482 498665 When calling and to ensure we...

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Page 62: ...t is ultimately their responsibility to register with the manufacturer within the allotted time period It is essential that the boiler is serviced in line with the manufacturers recommendations at lea...

Page 63: ...rs complete DHW mode gas rate m3 hr or ft3 hr Central heating output left at factory settings Yes No If no what is the maximum central heating output selected kW Dynamic gas inlet pressure mbar Centra...

Page 64: ...required on every annual service in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and BS 7593 It is only acceptable to not have undertaken this if the service engineers attendance visit was in betwee...

Page 65: ...service in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and BS 7593 It is only acceptable to not have undertaken this if the service engineers attendance visit was in between annual services to att...

Page 66: ...lletin TB 008 where chimney flues are in voids The ECGA should be of the correct type as specified by BS 7967 Prior to its use the ECGA should have been maintained and calibrated as specified by the m...

Page 67: ...bled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during installation Rectify if ne...

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Page 72: ...r an ISO 9001 registered quality management system FM 59915 At Ideal Heating we take our environmental impact seriously therefore when installing any Ideal Heating product please make sure to dispose...

Page 73: ...ire Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Heating For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website i...

Page 74: ...ence should be made to the current ETCI rules for electrical installation It is essential that the instructions in this booklet are strictly followed for safe and economical operation of the boiler EL...

Page 75: ...our boiler efficiently using less gas turn the central heating temperature knob A to the position or lower In winter periods it may be necessary to turn the knob towards the MAX position to meet heati...

Page 76: ...ll your Gas Safe Registered engineer Preventative solutions During cold weather set the central heating temperature knob A to maximum Must return to original setting once cold spell is over Place the...

Page 77: ...ogrammer are as you require and adjust if necessary Check the programmer external to the boiler is in an ON position and the hot water cylinder thermostat is turned up NO See boiler Operation Modes an...

Page 78: ...central heating but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating in central heating hot water mode The boiler is operating in frost protection 7 NORMAL...

Page 79: ...s Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 1 Check condensate Pipe for blockages refer to Section 3 2 Check other gas appliances in the...

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