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D.C. tachometer generator TDP 1,2

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Bearing makes noise or is
jammed

Note:

Exchange of the bearings only
by the manufacturer.

Mounting error / clutch problem

Mounting precision check

Corroded bearings

Replace bearing by
manufacturer

Insufficient lubrication.

contact the manufacturer.

Too little/much bearing play.

Replace bearings

Contact the manufacturer

Grind marks in the bearing
track, scoring.

Replace bearings; contact the
manufacturer.

Bearing jammed or distorted

Check bearing bore
contact the manufacturer.

Seals rub

Replace seal.
Please contact the
manufacturer

Insufficient lubrication

Please contact the
manufacturer

Bearing corroded

Please contact the
manufacturer.

Too little bearing play

Please contact the
manufacturer

Coupling pushes or pulls

Re-align machine

Belt tensioned too tightly

Adjust belt pulley in line with
specifications.

Bearings jammed or distorted

Contact the manufacturer

Heavy vibration

Rotor imbalance, rotor not
round, shaft distorted

Please contact the
manufacturer

Incorrect alignment

Align set of machines; check
coupling.

Imbalance with the coupled
prime mover

Rebalance the coupled prime
mover

Shocks from coupled

prime mover

Check prime mover

Resonance in the foundations

Strengthen foundations
following consultation with the
manufacturer

Changes in the foundation

Following consultation with the
manufacturer determine the
cause, eliminate error and
realign the machine.

Summary of Contents for TDP 1,2 Series

Page 1: ...y Instructions TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc ID 74713 Operating and Assembly Instructions D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 Read the Operating and Assembly Instructions prior to assembly starting installation and handling Keep for future reference ...

Page 2: ...7 35394 Giessen Germany Phone 49 641 7969 0 Fax 49 641 73645 E Mail info huebner giessen com www huebner giessen com Headquarters Giessen The manual has been drawn up with the utmost care and attention Nevertheless we cannot exclude the possibility of errors in form and content It is strictly forbidden to reproduce this publication or parts of this publication in any form or by any means without t...

Page 3: ...a 9 3 1 Type plate 9 3 2 Type key 10 3 3 Type explanation 11 3 4 Dimensions Power consumption Environment Speed 12 3 5 Elektrical and mechanical data 12 3 6 General technical data electric implementation 19 4 Mechanical design 27 5 Design and function 29 5 1 Block diagram 29 5 2 Short description 29 5 3 Connections 29 6 Transport packaging and storage 30 6 1 Safety instructions for transport 30 6 ...

Page 4: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 4 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc 11 Annex 41 11 1 Connection diagram 41 12 Spare parts 42 13 Dimension drawings 43 13 1 Screw tightening torques 54 ...

Page 5: ...ds that express the scope of the hazard The warnings must be strictly heeded you must act prudently to prevent accidents personal injury and property damage WARNING Indicates a possibly dangerous situation that can result in death or serious injury if it is not avoided CAUTION Indicates a possibly dangerous situation that can result in minor injury if it is not avoided CAUTION Indicates a possibly...

Page 6: ...gations agreed in the delivery contract as well as the delivery conditions of the manufacturer apply 1 5 Copyright NOTE Content information text drawings graphics and other representations are protected by copyright and are subject to commercial property rights It is strictly forbidden to make copies of any kind or by any means for any purpose other than in conjunction with using the device withou...

Page 7: ...re excluded the owner bears sole responsibility for non intended use 2 3 Improper use Do not use the device in potentially explosive areas The device must not be subjected to mechanical loads in addition to its own weight and unavoidable vibration and shock loads that arise during normal operations Examples for non permitted mechanical loads incomplete list Fastening transport or lifting tackle to...

Page 8: ...circuit 2 6 2 Rotating shafts and hot surfaces WARNING Risk of injury from rotating shafts and hot surfaces Touching rotating shafts can result in serious injuries Therefore Do not tinker with moving parts shafts or work on rotating shafts Do not open covers during operations Ensure no parts are moving before opening any covers The encoder can become very hot when operated for longer periods of ti...

Page 9: ...ear of construction year of construction mA Maximum permissible current Maximum current mA W Rated power Rated voltage V rpm Rated speed nominal speed rpm max rpm Maximum speed rpm Maximum speed rpm Isol Kl Cl Isolation class Isolation class IP Degree of protection Degree of protection ID Artikel Electrical design to VDE 0530 Please note The details on the nameplate apply exclusively to a purely r...

Page 10: ...speed switch B16 3 FG 4 FG 40 Special version version different from normal Voltage version Description 0 6 up to 14 see tables preferred voltages special voltages page 13 18 Magnetic shunt ring Galvanically and mechanically separate Frame size S Short short version L Long long version TDP Tachometer Dynamo Permanent magnet Optional ...

Page 11: ...ge gradient 20V up to 200V at 1000 rpm Double tacho generator Type TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G Two magnet systems Two galvanically and mechanically separated Armature windings Voltage gradient 20V up to 200V at 1000 rpm Double tacho generator Type TDP 1 2 TDF 1 2 One permanent magnet One separate magnet Two galvanically and mechanically separated Armature windings Magnetic shunt Type TDP 1 2 N TDPS 1 2 TD...

Page 12: ...sion drawings mechanical data kg Dimensions See chapter 13 dimension drawings mechanical data mm Open circuit voltage DC See type plate on machine V DC Rated voltage with load DC See type plate on machine V DC Maximum rated current See type plate on machine A DC Machine Temperature range 40 to 100 C Maximum speed See type plate on machine rpm 3 5 Elektrical and mechanical data ...

Page 13: ...rox No load voltage at 1000 rpm V rpm mA kΩ Ω V TDPS 1 2 1 200 2000 75 175 320 226 TDPS 1 2 3 140 2800 107 83 178 158 TDPS 1 2 5 100 4000 150 43 82 113 TDPS 1 2 8 65 6000 230 17 30 73 TDPS 1 2 12 30 6000 500 3 7 6 3 34 Special voltages TDPS 1 2 2 175 2300 86 135 221 198 TDPS 1 2 4 115 3500 130 56 94 129 TDPS 1 2 6 90 4400 167 36 58 101 TDPS 1 2 7 75 5300 200 23 39 84 TDPS 1 2 9 10 11 13 14 55 6000...

Page 14: ...Ω Ω V TDP 1 2 1 200 2000 125 96 255 220 TDP 1 2 3 140 2800 180 42 114 154 TDP 1 2 5 100 4000 250 24 52 110 TDP 1 2 8 65 6000 385 9 5 21 72 TDP 1 2 12 30 6000 830 1 8 5 1 33 Special voltages TDPS 1 2 0 8 280 1400 90 160 401 308 TDPS 1 2 0 9 230 1700 110 110 285 253 TDPS 1 2 2 175 2300 140 66 182 192 TDPS 1 2 4 115 3500 220 28 75 5 126 TDPS 1 2 6 107 117777777777777 13 14 90 4400 280 17 41 100 TDPS ...

Page 15: ...ge at 1000 rpm V rpm mA kΩ Ω V TDPL 1 2 0 6 400 1000 125 105 274 428 TDPL 1 2 0 8 280 1400 180 61 151 299 TDPL 1 2 1 200 2000 250 26 5 69 214 TDPL 1 2 3 140 2800 355 15 38 150 TDPL 1 2 5 100 4000 500 6 5 17 107 Special voltages TDPL 1 2 0 7 350 1140 145 99 240 374 TDPL 1 2 0 9 230 1700 215 41 100 248 TDPL 1 2 2 175 2300 285 24 52 4 187 TDPL 1 2 4 115 3500 435 10 5 25 123 TDPL 1 2 6 107 11777777777...

Page 16: ... 140 2800 86 83 167 153 154 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 5 100 4000 120 43 86 73 110 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 8 65 6000 185 17 34 29 72 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 12 30 6000 400 3 7 7 4 6 7 33 Special voltages TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 2 175 2300 68 135 270 246 192 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 4 115 3500 104 56 112 102 126 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 6 90 4400 133 36 72 65 100 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 7 75 5300 160 23 47 42 82 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 9 55 6000 218 ...

Page 17: ...8 38 35 110 TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 8 65 6000 385 8 15 5 14 3 72 TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 12 30 6000 830 2 3 3 7 3 4 33 Shaft mounted constructions overhung mountings in B10 construction speeds limited to max 2500 rpm Special voltages TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 2 175 2300 140 55 133 122 192 TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 4 115 3500 220 23 55 51 126 TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 6 90 4400 280 13 5 30 27 6 100 TDP 1 2 TDP 1 2 7 75 5300 333 11 5 22 5 20 7 ...

Page 18: ...000 150 43 82 82 113 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 8 65 6000 230 17 30 30 73 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 12 30 6000 500 3 7 6 3 6 3 34 Shaft mounted constructions overhung mountings in B10 construction speeds limited to max 2500 rpm Special voltages TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 2 175 2300 86 135 221 221 198 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 4 115 3500 130 56 94 94 129 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 6 90 4400 167 36 58 58 101 TDPS 1 2 TDPS 1 2 G 7 7...

Page 19: ...ffects The machines are magnetised when mounted via an external power source The magnetising field strength required to saturate the permanent magnets is about 4000A cm CAUTION After magnetization the machine s magnetic circuit must not be interrupted otherwise a voltage drop of approx 25 occurs It is vital to follow precisely the dismantling instructions of the machine please ask for special leaf...

Page 20: ...chine to machine when setting the operating point The maximum tolerance is 5 A tighter voltage tolerance 1 is possible Power available The maximum available power given in the selection tables is always referred to the rated speed of 1000 rpm Should this power be fully utilised the user should note that the linearity error worsens approx 0 5 at 1000 rpm The maximum permissible current which is giv...

Page 21: ...error in the most unfavourable of circumstances is 0 5 Brushes brushholder The quality AG 35 with 65 silver content of the silver graphite brushes guarantees long and maintenance free operation The combination of silver graphite brushes with the commutator which is also silver plated causes a patina to form which ensures that the voltage drop due to contact resistance is very low and remains nearl...

Page 22: ...s measured in the laboratory whilst subject to a continual increase in temperature of approx 20 K per hour The error can be higher if the rate of temperature increase is faster or the machine is subjected to radiated heat on just one side An optional version with temperature compensation is available It is possible to compensate the temperature course of the permanent magnet to a tolerance of 0 2 ...

Page 23: ...ep such harmonics relatively small Linearity The usability of a tacho generator in the broadest possible range of control applications is limited by the linearity of the output voltage relative to speed Definition of the linearity error Every analysis of an error is relative and for that reason depends on the method of measurement used to determine the error The quotient obtained from the deviatio...

Page 24: ...thmetically averaged when evaluating the gradients and the gradient formed from these averaged values Disturbance variables relative to linearity Load current and armature reaction If it is assumed that the speed voltage curve at no load is a straight line at a particular angle then when load is applied without taking account of armature reaction the result is a straight line at a less steep angle...

Page 25: ...e effect on linearity if it is too high the effects of the commutator can increase the linearity error Special purpose machines DC tacho generator with separate exciter Type TDF 1 2 For special closed loop control tasks it is imperative that the output voltage of a tacho generator does not change in proportion to the speed but that it adheres to a certain mathematic function For this purpose it is...

Page 26: ...separately excited generator As a consequence the output voltage of the separately excited tacho generator changes with the speed according to a quadratic function The voltage characteristics are depicted in the diagrams below Technical data Output power at 1000 rpm 10 W Armature voltage user selectable between 20 and 200 V Speed voltage curve of the permanent magnet DC tacho generator Speed volta...

Page 27: ...inst water spray from all directions Special protection types IP 56 IP 55 spec are used where unfavourable environmental or ambient conditions exist such as jet water temporary flooding oil mist high humidity heavy accumulations of dust suitable for installation in open air heavy vibration and shock loads Additionally the machines are suitable for use in an extended temperature range from 40 C to ...

Page 28: ...C to 120 C Fixed Bearing DE drive end Floating Bearing NDE non drive end Shaft extensions The tacho normally has 1 free shaft extension Ø14 k6 x 30 with closed feather keyway to DIN 6885 P 1 The feather key is also supplied In construction types B 10 and B 3 K 20 and K 32 a tapered shaft extension taper 1 20 is supplied having a fine thread Self locking hexagon nut which can be used several times ...

Page 29: ... carbon brushes The rotating rotor generates a DC voltage at a given linear relationship in proportion to its speed 5 3 Connections The terminal box is fitted with cable glands Suitable cables Pg 11 cable Ø 7 5 9 are necessary to maintain the degree of protection Electrical connection Clockwise rotation A1 terminal positive A2 terminal negative Winding test repeat max 500 V Suitable connection cab...

Page 30: ...isture Protect from heat Protect packaged goods from heat over 40 C and direct sunlight 6 2 Incoming goods inspection Check delivery immediately upon receipt for completeness and possible transport damage Inform the forwarder directly on receipt of the goods about existing transport damages prepare pictures for evidence 6 3 Packaging disposal The packaging is not taken back and must be disposed of...

Page 31: ...eplate ratings protection class and so forth when operating the DC tacho generator Do not attach or lean temperature sensitive components onto or against the machine do not position such components in the immediate vicinity of the machine Ensure sufficient space is available for maintenance work please refer to 8 2 Inspection and maintenance schedule We recommend installing a canopy for model desi...

Page 32: ... size and length of engagement on the fastening side in accordance with VDI 2230 Blatt 1 so that the entire system remains securely and reliably mounted under all operating statuses The thread engagement its stability and strength on the fastening side must be guaranteed at all times The screws must be tightened to the appropriate torque for the property class and thread screws must not become loo...

Page 33: ...es have been maintained greater than 8 mm up to 500 V greater than 10 mm up to 750 V The inside of the terminal box is clean Unused cable glands are sealed and the screw plugs including the seals are tightened securely The gasket seal is clean and properly glued in the lid of the terminal box ensure all sealing surfaces are in a proper condition to guarantee the degree of protection The rating dat...

Page 34: ...r of oil and seal with screw cap Ensure the terminal box and cable glands are sealed dust and water tight ensure the degree of protection see nameplate is achieved and guaranteed for transport Observe and adhere to transport information 6 Ensure that the packaging carton palette used to transport the machine is correctly sized and that the machine is secured by the packaging in such a manner that ...

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Page 36: ...mature reaction Consulting producer Reversion tilt the brush in the holder Consulting producer Harmonics Burn marks on the commutator for example by short circuits Cause for short circuits and repair Coupling or assembly errors misalignment and parallel misalignment Correct the mounting mistake System related vibrations and resonance Possible causes contact the manufacturer Rotor rotating hard Arm...

Page 37: ...rication Please contact the manufacturer Bearing corroded Please contact the manufacturer Too little bearing play Please contact the manufacturer Coupling pushes or pulls Re align machine Belt tensioned too tightly Adjust belt pulley in line with specifications Bearings jammed or distorted Contact the manufacturer Heavy vibration Rotor imbalance rotor not round shaft distorted Please contact the m...

Page 38: ...of the air being too dry Change condition of circulating air remedy lack of moisture avoid dust in ambient air Brush pressure too high Contact the manufacturer Grease on brush contact face Clean contact face contact the manufacturer Heavy vibration See above Surface temperature too high 100 C Operated under short circuit conditions Check device please contact the manufacturer Other faults Please c...

Page 39: ...f the pulse encoder is tampered with in any way the guarantee is invalidated Changes of bearing or armature must therefore be carried out only at our works in Giessen Contact the manufacturer when operating any other special version and combinations of devices e g TDP 1 2 FSE 102 Interval Inspections To be carried out by Regularly Check fastening screws are seated correctly Skilled personnel After...

Page 40: ... a certified workshop only Regularly depending on degree of soiling Cleaning Blow clean the machine using dry oil free compressed air Do not use cleaning agents that damage the coating Do not use inflammable cleaning agents Skilled personnel Regularly Check coating If the protective coating is sufficiently damaged repaint to prevent risk of corrosion recommended Skilled personnel If the machine ha...

Page 41: ...ties or specialized disposal companies provide information on environmentally responsible disposal NOTES When ordering replacement parts always specify the serial number of the device List of spare parts see on page 42 11 Annex 11 1 Connection diagram TDP 1 2 Clamping strip Terminal box Electrical connection Clockwise rotation A1 terminal positive A2 terminal negative Winding test repeat max 500 V...

Page 42: ...rator TDP 1 2 42 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc 12 Spare parts Spare parts are available on demand via the service address on page 2 NOTES When ordering spare parts always state the serial number of the device ...

Page 43: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 43 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc 13 Dimension drawings TDP 1 2 Construction type B5 B3 HM 83 M 53 023 ...

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Page 46: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 46 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc B35 construction HM 83 M 53023 ...

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Page 48: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 48 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc Single or double tacho with mounted coupling Type HKI 97 112 K 20 According to dimension drawing HM 80 M 51411 ...

Page 49: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 49 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc Single tachos Single or double tacho with mounted coupling Type HKI 97 112 K 20 According to dimension drawing HM 80 M 51411 ...

Page 50: ...D C tachometer generator TDP 1 2 50 TDP1 2 MANUALen_R5 2018 12 19 ID74713 doc B35 construction HM 83 M 53044 ...

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Page 54: ... screw material the material pairings to be fastened and the length of thread engagement are to be calculated to VDI 2230 Page 1 The materials used and the construction to which the generator is to be fastened must guarantee a permanently secure and reliable joint The owner is obliged to inspect and ensure compliance with all specifications ...

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