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Ideal Logic System -

Installation and Servicing

SECTION 4 - FAULT FINDING

4.11 NO CH OPERATION

Is the mode knob in the ON position?

YES

Move the mode knob to the ON position

Are the Timer and the Room Thermostat or cylinder

thermostat switched on?

Switch the Timer, Room Stat and Cylinder Stat On

Are the Radiator Valves Open?

Is there 230Vac at (A)?

Check wiring from

terminal strip to

PCB.

Open the Radiator Valves

There is no Voltage from the

Timer/Room Stat. This is not

boiler fault. Ensure Voltage is

supplied to boiler by rectifying

external wiring.

4.13 NO DISPLAY

Is there 230Vac to the boiler at L and N (see Section 4.11)?

Supply power to the boiler

Is the wiring from the terminal block to the Main PCB

connected securely?

Connect the wiring from the terminal block to the

Main PCB securely.

Replace the PCB

YES

4.12 NO HW

Is the cylinder stat calling for heat?

YES

Adjust cylinder stat

Is DHW timer on?

Switch timer on

Is boiler mode knob in the ON position?

Move the mode knob to the ON position

Is there 230V at (A)? Refer to Section 4.11.

Check system controls and wiring

Check wiring from terminal strip to PCB.

YES

Содержание LOGIC SYSTEM S15IE

Страница 1: ...not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Heating For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website idealhe...

Страница 2: ...Full Load P4 kW 15 1 18 0 24 3 30 3 Part Load P1 kW 4 9 5 9 8 0 9 9 Auxiliary Electricity Consumption Full Load elmax kW 0 021 0 026 0 042 0 048 Part Load elmin kW 0 012 0 013 0 013 0 013 Standby PSB...

Страница 3: ...s VII Class VIII 1 2 1 5 2 3 4 3 5 5 PRODUCT FICHE The energy efficiency of the package of products provided for in this document may not correspond to its actual energy efficiency once installed in a...

Страница 4: ...4 Installation and Servicing...

Страница 5: ...ithout notice FOR ANY TECHNICAL QUERIES PLEASE RING THE IDEAL INSTALLER HELPLINE 44 0 1482 498704 NOTE BOILER RESTART PROCEDURE To restart the boiler press the RESTART button The boiler will repeat th...

Страница 6: ...6 Installation and Servicing...

Страница 7: ...essing the Installer Mode 38 2 27 Handing Over 38 3 SERVICING 39 3 1 Servicing Schedule 39 3 2 Boiler Front Panel Removal Replacement 40 3 3 Fan And Venturi Assembly Removal and Cleaning 40 3 4 Burner...

Страница 8: ...t3 h divide the gross heat input Btu h by the gross C V of the gas Btu ft3 d For m3 h multiply l s by 3 6 Key to symbols GB United Kingdom IE Ireland Countries of destination PMS Maximum operating pre...

Страница 9: ...mbination boilers only Scale reducer 16 Hot water mode Heat input to be calculated Max operating burner pressure n a Max operating water pressure measure record Cold water inlet temp measure record Ho...

Страница 10: ...the boiler is routed downwards Data Plate The boiler model and serial number can be located on the bottom of the boiler casing shown in Section 1 16 Water Gas Connection Diagram 1 2 OPERATION When the...

Страница 11: ...vice not approved by Ideal Heating could invalidate the certification and the normal appliance warranty It could also infringe the Gas Safety Regulations and the above regulations 1 6 SAFE HANDLING OF...

Страница 12: ...mes 3 Minimum acceptable spacing from the terminal to obstructions and ventilation openings are specified in Table 4 Only one reduction down to 25mm is allowable per installation otherwise BS5440 1 20...

Страница 13: ...iator valves are used the space heating temperature control over a living dining area or hallway having a heating requirement of at least 10 of the minimum boiler heat output should be achieved using...

Страница 14: ...e installed from inside the building where wall thicknesses do not exceed 600mm 24 Where the space into which the boiler is going to be installed is less than the length of flue required the flue must...

Страница 15: ...boiler Guidance on vessel sizing is given in table opposite 5 Filling The system may be filled by the following method Through a temporary hose connection from a draw off tap supplied from a service...

Страница 16: ...Water Treatment in accordance with the Benchmark Guidance Notes on Water Treatment in Central Heating Systems If water treatment is used Ideal Heating recommend only the use of SCALEMASTER SM 1 PRO F...

Страница 17: ...ET BURNER 219 SUMP CLEAN OUT COVER 223 FLUE MANIFOLD 224 FLUE MANIFOLD TOP 227 CLAMP RETAINING FLUE TURRET 228 HOSE CONDENSATE INTERNAL 229 SIPHON TRAP 231 CONDENSATE OUTLET CONNECTION 302 PCB 304 CON...

Страница 18: ...Installation Users Instructions E Wall Mounting Template located on internal protective packaging F Boiler Guarantee Registration Pack C A D F B E Boiler Guarantee HARDWARE PACK CONTENTS Gas Valve Pac...

Страница 19: ...L REMOVAL Note This flue system incorporates a removable flue outlet nose that utilises a push fit location system This enables the installation of deflector high level or balcony outlet flue kits wit...

Страница 20: ...L IMPORTANT Ensure that during the cutting operation masonry falling outside of the building does not cause damage or personal injury 1 Cut the flue hole preferably with a 5 core boring tool ensuring...

Страница 21: ...re in place Additional Termination Kits available for use with these B packs Flue Deflector Kit The resistance is the equivalent of 1 metre of flue pipe and therefore must be deducted from any maximum...

Страница 22: ...Terminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Cut 75mm Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum B Pack Standard 181 556 286 484 601 816 526 741 Plus 1 1m D pack 1121 1506 1236 1434 155...

Страница 23: ...et terminal is upper most 4 Drill a 3 5mm hole through one of the 2 outer side holes in the outer flue section into the inserted outer flue as shown Take care not to pierce the inner plastic flue Fit...

Страница 24: ...to be refitted 9 When 1st mark is in line with the wall whilst holding the flue firmly push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd of the two marks is just visible If the last locatio...

Страница 25: ...rately supplied vertical connector WEATHER PROOFING Where the flue passes through the roof line an adequate seal must be made This is achieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Universal wea...

Страница 26: ...enetrate the shaded area of the roof Note The equivalent flue length resistance of the elbow kits are 90o elbow kit 1m 45o elbow kit 0 6m If chimney penetrates dotted area such that A is less than 300...

Страница 27: ...ector kit 3 Secure the vertical connector by applying downward pressure on the connector 4 Position the clamp on the top face of the flue manifold and push it horizontally backwards Locate both clamp...

Страница 28: ...harge point such as an internal soil and vent stack or internal kitchen or bathroom waste pipe etc fig 3 External Drain Connections The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should only be...

Страница 29: ...ipe Water Weather proof insulation Max 3m external pipework Limestone chippings 500 300 25 75 2 rows of three 12mm holes 25mm centres 50mm from the bottom of the tube facing away from the house Minimu...

Страница 30: ...nnection For additional gas supply information refer to Gas Supply on page 12 SAFETY VALVE DRAIN The safety valve connection located at the bottom right hand side of the boiler comprises a 15mm diamet...

Страница 31: ...s must be connected to a permanent live supply and NOT switched by thermostats programmers If the supply cord is damaged it must be replaced by the manufacturer service agent or similarly qualified pe...

Страница 32: ...HW OFF Y PLAN VALVE Logic System S IE BOILER WITH Y PLAN SYSTEM br br o g y b b g y g g L N E L N E CH ON R S ON HW ON HW OFF C S ON FUSED SPUR TIMER CH ON L N HW ON HW S PLAN VALVE CH S PLAN VALVE R...

Страница 33: ...ing the control box back up into the operating position and re fit the front panel ensuring a good seal is made NOTE When making the mains electrical connections to the boiler it is important that the...

Страница 34: ...CH LIVE IGNITION LIVE PE X2 PUMP LIVE DHW LIVE X3 PUMP GND X9 X8 OWC OWC OPENTHERM OPENTHERM OPENTHERM 5V CHIP COM BUS TX CHIP COM BUS 24V CHIP COM BUS GND CHIP COM BUS 5V CHIP COM BUS RX MAINS LIVE...

Страница 35: ...has been checked adjusted and preset at the factory for operation on the gas type defined on the appliance data plate DO NOT adjust the air gas ratio valve Having checked That the boiler has been inst...

Страница 36: ...ve L is closed and that the CH isolating valve F and K are OPEN 4 Check that the electrical supply is OFF 5 Check that the boiler mode control knob B is OFF 6 Check that the gas service cock J is OPEN...

Страница 37: ...for soundness The system pressure will increase with temperature rise but should not exceed 2 5 bar 3 With the system still hot turn off the gas water and electricity supplies to the boiler and drain...

Страница 38: ...ist before handover to the customer For IE its is necessary to complete a Declaration of Conformity to indicate compliance to I S 813 2002 IMPORTANT 11 A comprehensive service should be carried out AN...

Страница 39: ...rs requirements and Competence can be demonstrated by satisfactory completion of the CPA1 ACS assessment which covers the use of electronic portable combustion gas analysers in accordance with BS7967...

Страница 40: ...e two M4 screws and release the nozzle assembly 6 Inspect the injector for blockage or damage 7 Inspect fan outlet sealing gasket and replace if necessary 1 2 3 5 Injector REMOVAL 1 Loosen the two scr...

Страница 41: ...MPORTANT The burner head is a ceramic plaque construction Care must be taken to ensure that the burner is not placed down upon its face as this may cause damage to the ceramic 6 Brush off any deposits...

Страница 42: ...ction gaps are correct Refer to Sections 3 13 3 14 1 Ignition Electrode Flame Detection Reassemble the boiler in the following order 1 Ensure that the condensate trap siphon is full of water 2 Refit t...

Страница 43: ...iler Refer to Section 3 19 THE BOILER MUST NOT BE OPERATED WITHOUT THE FRONT PANEL FITTED 3 9 FAN REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 3 Remove the clip fr...

Страница 44: ...r ensuring that the new gas seal supplied is located correctly in the injector housing 10 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 11 BURNER REPLACEMENT 5 5 6 1 See Section 3 4 2 Re...

Страница 45: ...ons as shown 8 Reassemble in reverse order 9 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 12 RETURN THERMISTOR REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Unclip the return thermistor from...

Страница 46: ...der ensuring that the the earth lead is replaced 6 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 Flame Detection Electrode 12 5mm Straight edge 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Remove the burner R...

Страница 47: ...ealing washer are in place and reconnect gas and electrical connections 7 Ensure all gas valve connections are gas tight with a gas soundness check up to the gas control valve 8 Check operation of the...

Страница 48: ...box cover 4 Unplug all lead connections to the PCB 5 Remove the 2 screws if applicable 6 Spring out the four side retaining clips and pull the PCB upwards to clear the corner retaining posts 7 Take t...

Страница 49: ...and secure with the C clip 7 Refill the boiler 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 20 PRESSURE GAUGE REPLACEMENT 5 4 3 21 SAFETY RELIEF VALVE REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Sect...

Страница 50: ...6 Reassembly is the reverse of the above Ensure the air vent head o ring seal is in place when refitting and the new o ring is fitted to the return pipe top connection 7 Ensure the air vent cap is loo...

Страница 51: ...r to Section 2 16 8 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Sections 2 23 2 24 3 25 CONTROL NO FLOW THERMISTOR REPLACEMENT 4 3 1 Refer to Section 3 8 2 Drain the boiler Refer to Section 3 19 3 Pull...

Страница 52: ...correctly match connecting pipe diameters 18 Ensure the trap siphon is filled with water Refer to Secion 3 17 19 Refill the boiler Refer to Section 2 16 20 Ensure all gas valve connections are gas ti...

Страница 53: ...H circuit Refer to Section 3 19 7 Remove the retaining clip on the vessel water connection pipe 8 Support the expansion vessel and unscrew the 2 screws from the securing clamp located on the top of th...

Страница 54: ...CHECK THERMISTORS ARE CLIPPED ONTO PIPES Note burner will be switched off for 2 mins between attempts Function inactive if temperature is 40 C GO TO SECTION 4 6 FLAME LOSS GO TO SECTION 4 7 FAN FAULT...

Страница 55: ...k siphon and condensate drain pipe work for blockage and rectify if necessary Boiler now working OK Check wiring connection from gas valve to PCB for continuity If the wiring is OK then replace the PC...

Страница 56: ...supply available at the Gas Valve while the flame is on YES Check spark generator and associated harness for continuity and visual condition Refer to Section 3 15 Are these functioning correctly YES C...

Страница 57: ...k the resistance using a suitable multimeter connected across the Outside Sensors terminal pins At 0 o C expect 31 000 35 000 Ohms At 15 o C expect 15 000 16 500 Ohms At 30 o C expect 7 700 8 500 Ohms...

Страница 58: ...ge from the Timer Room Stat This is not boiler fault Ensure Voltage is supplied to boiler by rectifying external wiring 4 13 NO DISPLAY Is there 230Vac to the boiler at L and N see Section 4 11 NO Sup...

Страница 59: ...tails of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on idealparts com Our Parts team are also available to help with your Ideal Spare Parts enquiries on 01482 498665 When calling and to ensure we...

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Страница 62: ...t is ultimately their responsibility to register with the manufacturer within the allotted time period It is essential that the boiler is serviced in line with the manufacturers recommendations at lea...

Страница 63: ...rs complete DHW mode gas rate m3 hr or ft3 hr Central heating output left at factory settings Yes No If no what is the maximum central heating output selected kW Dynamic gas inlet pressure mbar Centra...

Страница 64: ...required on every annual service in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and BS 7593 It is only acceptable to not have undertaken this if the service engineers attendance visit was in betwee...

Страница 65: ...service in accordance with the manufacturers instructions and BS 7593 It is only acceptable to not have undertaken this if the service engineers attendance visit was in between annual services to att...

Страница 66: ...lletin TB 008 where chimney flues are in voids The ECGA should be of the correct type as specified by BS 7967 Prior to its use the ECGA should have been maintained and calibrated as specified by the m...

Страница 67: ...bled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during installation Rectify if ne...

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Страница 72: ...r an ISO 9001 registered quality management system FM 59915 At Ideal Heating we take our environmental impact seriously therefore when installing any Ideal Heating product please make sure to dispose...

Страница 73: ...ire Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Heating For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website i...

Страница 74: ...ence should be made to the current ETCI rules for electrical installation It is essential that the instructions in this booklet are strictly followed for safe and economical operation of the boiler EL...

Страница 75: ...our boiler efficiently using less gas turn the central heating temperature knob A to the position or lower In winter periods it may be necessary to turn the knob towards the MAX position to meet heati...

Страница 76: ...ll your Gas Safe Registered engineer Preventative solutions During cold weather set the central heating temperature knob A to maximum Must return to original setting once cold spell is over Place the...

Страница 77: ...ogrammer are as you require and adjust if necessary Check the programmer external to the boiler is in an ON position and the hot water cylinder thermostat is turned up NO See boiler Operation Modes an...

Страница 78: ...central heating but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operating in central heating hot water mode The boiler is operating in frost protection 7 NORMAL...

Страница 79: ...s Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII 1 Check condensate Pipe for blockages refer to Section 3 2 Check other gas appliances in the...

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