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APPENDIX: REFERENCE

Internal clock shows incorrect time or date

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Power interruption. Make sure cable box or VCR is tuned to channel
carrying the XDS information.

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Check to make sure the clock is set accurately (check AM/PM and
date).

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Check Daylight-Saving setting. The clock may have adjusted for
daylight-saving time.

Time did not adjust for daylight-saving time

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Check to make sure daylight-saving feature is set correctly.

VCR makes noise when stopped

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VCR is removing tape from heads. This is normal. The head
cylinder inside the VCR will continue to rotate for a few minutes
after you put the VCR in the stop mode.

Will not Auto Channel Search active channels correctly

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Check to make sure the antenna connections are secure and
correct.

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Check to make sure the Signal Type: CABLE/ANTENNA feature is
set correctly.

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If Detect Automatically was selected for the Signal Type in the Auto
Channel Search menu, try using either CABLE TV or ANTENNA
instead.

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May not be necessary if using a cable box for all channels. Contact
your local cable company for more information.

Tape plays back in slow motion

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Press PLAY to return to normal playback.

Cannot select channels over 69

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Cable channels over 69 can only be selected if Signal Type: CABLE/
ANTENNA feature is set to CABLE.

Cassette with safety tab removed does not start to play automatically

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Check to make sure the Auto Play ON/OFF feature is set to ON.

TIMER indicator flashes

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Clock is not set.

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Check to make sure there is a cassette in the VCR when a timer
recording is set.

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Страница 1: ...VCR User s Guide VG2052 We bring good things to life ...

Страница 2: ...provides guidelines for proper grounding and in particular specifies that the cable ground shall be connected to the grounding system of the building as close to the point of cable entry as practical Care and Cleaning Use a soft cloth or the dusting attachment of your vacuum cleaner to dust your VCR Remove dust from the ventilation holes Plastic surfaces are easily scratched and can be marred by a...

Страница 3: ... Time and Date Manually 14 Additional Set Up Features in the PREFERENCES Menu 16 Remote VCR1 VCR2 Option 16 Auto Play 17 Auto TV VCR 17 EnergySaver 18 Front Panel Brightness VCR Display 18 VCR Basics 19 Remote Buttons 20 Component Buttons 20 VCR Function Buttons 20 TV Function Buttons 21 Playing a Tape 22 Automatic Rewind 22 Tape Eject 23 Recording 23 Check the Safety Tab 23 Recording 25 Recording...

Страница 4: ...gs to Know Before Connecting Components 41 Connecting Your VCR 42 Jacks and Cables 42 RF Jacks and Coaxial Cables F type 42 Audio Video Jacks and Cables RCA type 42 Choosing a VCR Connection 43 Advantages of Audio Video Cable Connections 43 Don t Forget About the Auto TV VCR Feature 43 TV with RF Jack Only 44 TV with Audio Video Jacks 45 TV with Audio Video Jacks and Cable Box to Unscramble Pay Ch...

Страница 5: ... with channels and basic video tape operations are essential to get all you can out of the VCR Once you are comfortable with these features feel free to refer to other sections because they cover the more detailed information What Remains The final sections of this manual contain playback and recording information a detailed connections section and a reference section including troubleshooting tip...

Страница 6: ...s use the jacks for a better connection Refer to the section Connections toward the back of the manual for additional connection options Step 4 Plug In the VCR Your VCR s power cord has a plastic band strung through the blades Remove plastic band before plugging the cord into the power outlet To remove band cut with a pair of scissors and pull it free of the blades Once the plastic is removed matc...

Страница 7: ... your VCR The first time you turn on your VCR the first screen of the Guide appears Select a language Seleccione un idioma Choisissez une langue 1 English 2 Espanol 3 Francais 1 Press 1 for English 2 for Español Spanish or 3 for Français French The remaining menus throughout the set up will appear in the chosen language Just follow the step by step procedures until setup is complete If the menu do...

Страница 8: ...R MAIN MENU 1 Timer Recordings 2 Time 3 Channels 4 Setup 5 Preferences 6 Language 0 Exit 2 Press 6 to display the LANGUAGE menu LANGUAGE Select a language 1 English 2 Espanol 3 Francais Press MENU to continue 3 Press 1 for English 2 for Español Spanish or 3 for Français French All other on screen menus are worked within similar ways using the remote control to follow on screen instructions See Add...

Страница 9: ...but if you ever want to change a menu refer to this section Language Cable Box Set Up VCR Channels List Auto Channel Search Auto Clock Set Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Manual Clock Set Remote VCR1 VCR2 Auto Play Auto TV VCR EnergySaver Front Panel Brightness 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 PROGRAM THE REMOTE 5 8 REFERENCE ...

Страница 10: ...e this step is complete all on screen displays will appear in that language 1 On your remote control press the MENU button to display the VCR MAIN MENU VCR MAIN MENU 1 Timer Recordings 2 Time 3 Channels 4 Setup 5 Preferences 6 Language 0 Exit 2 Press 6 to select the LANGUAGE menu LANGUAGE Select a language 1 English 2 Espanol 3 Francais Press MENU to continue 3 Press 1 for English 2 for Español Sp...

Страница 11: ...hree choices CABLE BOX SETUP Do you use your cable box to receive ALL channels or only SOME channels 1 ALL channels 2 Only SOME channels 3 Cancel setup 4 If you selected ALL Channels enter the output channel of your cable box usually 03 or 04 or press the INPUT button on the VCR s remote to select the VCR s video input channel if you used the AUDIO VIDEO jacks Choosing the Right Setup for Your Cab...

Страница 12: ...s that the VCR will now receive all signals on the designated channel CABLE BOX SETUP The VCR will now receive all signals from the cable box on channel 04 Press MENU to continue VCR Channels List If you use a cable box for all channels this step is not necessary Your VCR may come with a channel list preset at the factory but you may want to add or delete some channels depending on whether they ar...

Страница 13: ...ions on all channels Detect Automatically will make this decision for you AUTO CHANNEL SEARCH Now scanning channel 14 Press any key to cancel The VCR begins scanning for the available channels this takes about one to two minutes When the scan is complete the VCR tunes to the lowest channel number available At this point pressing CHAN up or down should only select the active channels Auto Channel S...

Страница 14: ...ANNELS Channel 115 is presently ADDED Press CLEAR to remove Press MENU to exit ADD REMOVE CHANNELS Channel 115 is presently REMOVED Press INFO to add Press MENU to exit 4 Follow the on screen instructions to finish this set up Time and Date The VCR gives you two ways to set the time and date the Auto Clock Feature or manually The Auto Clock Feature enables the VCR to update the clock each time the...

Страница 15: ...IME menu TIME 1 Set Time and Date 2 Auto Clock Set ON 3 Set Time Zone 4 Set Daylight Savings XDS Time Data was found on channel 20 0 Exit 3 Press 3 to display the SET TIME ZONE menu SET TIME ZONE What is your Time Zone 1 Eastern 2 Central 3 Mountain 4 Pacific 5 Alaska 6 Hawaii 7 Automatic Press MENU to continue Auto Clock Information With a cable box the VCR will not reset the clock after a power ...

Страница 16: ...TOMATIC the VCR sets the clock using the DST information broadcast in the signal channel Set the Time and Date Manually If the Auto Clock Set was unsuccessful set the clock through the menu option The Auto Clock Set feature is set to OFF automatically when you set the clock this way 1 Press MENU to display the VCR MAIN MENU VCR MAIN MENU 1 Timer Recordings 2 Time 3 Channels 4 Setup 5 Preferences 6...

Страница 17: ...N 3 Set Time Zone 4 Set Daylight Savings XDS Time Data was not found 0 Exit 3 Press 1 to display the SET TIME AND DATE menu SET TIME AND DATE Time hh mm Date Press MENU to cancel 4 Enter the data using the number buttons Press 0 before single digit numbers and follow the on screen directions SET TIME AND DATE Time 12 34 PM Date 11 18 99 Thursday Press CLEAR to correct Press MENU to set ...

Страница 18: ...ntrol VCR1 2 Auto Play ON 3 Auto TV VCR ON 4 EnergySaver 2 00 5 Front Panel AUTO 0 Exit Now you are ready to select an item from the menu to set up Remote VCR1 VCR2 Option If you own a compatible GE RCA or PROSCAN remote that has a VCR2 VCR2 LD or VCR2 DVD button this feature allows you to set this VCR to respond to that button Press 1 to select the Remote Control item Then press the VCR2 VCR2 LD ...

Страница 19: ...feature controls whether the TV VCR switch changes automatically to the VCR mode Press 3 to switch between ON and OFF Select ON if you want the VCR to switch to the VCR mode when the VCR is turned on or a cassette is inserted This only applies if you connect the IN FROM ANT and OUT TO TV jacks of your VCR to your TV and watch your VCR on channel 3 or 4 of your TV Select OFF if you want the VCR to ...

Страница 20: ... the VCR s tuner instead of your TV to tune channels you may want to turn this feature off Front Panel Brightness VCR Display You can change the brightness level of the fluorescent display panel on the front of the VCR Press 5 to switch between the options AUTO brightens the display when the VCR is on and dims the display when the VCR is off BRIGHT keeps the display bright DIM keeps the display at...

Страница 21: ...program should do just that This section shows you the basics of using your VCR It discusses things like using the remote control playing a tape and recording programs VCR Basics tells you what you need to know in order to watch a movie or tape your favorite show 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 5 8 REFERENCE PROGRAM THE REMOTE ...

Страница 22: ...0 00 Allows you to change entries when setting the clock or a timer recording F ADV Lets you view one frame with each press of the button when tape is in pause FORWARD Fast forwards the tape when the VCR is stopped Searches forward through a tape during playback Starts slow motion during play pause and increases slow motion speed GO BACK Switches between two channels Select one channel and then se...

Страница 23: ...Press and hold for three seconds during stop mode to eject a tape TRACKING Up or Down Lets you manually reduce the streaks that may appear on the picture during play slow motion or pause TV VCR Switches the picture signal so that it either comes from the VCR or cable antenna system TV Function Buttons CHAN Up or Down Selects next higher or lower channel in the TV s channel memory CLEAR Removes men...

Страница 24: ...the VCR PLAY on remote to begin tape play Press PLAY PAUSE PAUSE on remote for stop action Press TRACKING up or down to remove any streaks from the picture if necessary Press STOP EJECT on VCR STOP on remote to stop playback Automatic Rewind The VCR automatically rewinds the tape if it reaches the end of the tape during playback While rewinding you can press POWER on the VCR ON OFF on remote and t...

Страница 25: ... to record something that you re watching you can use basic recording For more detailed information refer to the Recording section starting on the next page 1 Set the tape speed by pressing the SPEED button on the remote 2 Press the RECORD button to begin recording 3 Press STOP to stop recording If you just want to pause the recording for a short time such as during a commercial press PAUSE instea...

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Страница 27: ...to explain the different recording features available to suit your needs including Recording explained in VCR Basics section Express Recording Timer Recording Copying and Editing Tapes 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 PROGRAM THE REMOTE 5 8 REFERENCE ...

Страница 28: ...top recording at a predetermined time Express Recording XPR Use Express recording to quickly record the remaining portion of the program you are watching 1 Set the tape speed by pressing the SPEED button on the remote 2 Press the RECORD button to begin recording 3 Repeatedly press the RECORD button to set up the recording duration REC CH 36 Record Length 0 00 Press REC to set length REC CH 36 Reco...

Страница 29: ...the program to record Program 1 One time Channel Start Time End Time Start Date Tape Speed SLP Press MENU to cancel Timer Recording Information The Clock must be set correctly Insert a tape with the safety tab in place and enough tape to record the program PROGRAMS OVERLAP appears if you have entered two programs where the times overlap The TIMER indicator appears in the display when you turn off ...

Страница 30: ... Tape Speed SLP Press CLEAR to correct Press MENU to save Program 1 has been saved Remember to insert a recordable tape and turn the VCR off before the program start time Remember to leave your cable box on and tuned to the desired channel Stopping a Timer Recording To stop or cancel a timer r ecording in progress even an expr ess recording Press and hold the STOP button for a few seconds Reviewin...

Страница 31: ...ng audio video cables select the line input on the recording VCR 5 Insert the tape you want to copy into playback VCR Insert a blank tape with its safety tab in place into recording VCR 6 Using visual search locate the segment you want to copy on the playback VCR Pause the tape at this location 7 Press RECORD on the recording VCR then PAUSE 8 Press PAUSE on both VCRs to begin copying 9 Press PAUSE...

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Страница 33: ...ogrammed to control a television It is programmed to control a GE RCA or PROSCAN TV Other manufacturer s brands need to be programmed 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 PROGRAM THE REMOTE 5 8 REFERENCE ...

Страница 34: ...ode list 5 Release TV and then press CHAN up or down If the TV responds to the remote commands the remote is programmed 6 If the TV does not respond repeat these steps using the next code listed for your TV s brand Operating the TV After you set up the remote see which buttons operate your TV 1 Point the remote at the TV and press the TV button If the TV does not turn on press the TV button and th...

Страница 35: ... Kenwood 06 12 Loewe 04 Luxman 06 LXI 04 05 07 Magnavox 04 06 12 Marantz 04 06 MGA 06 12 Mitsubishi 06 12 MTC 06 NAD 07 NEC 06 Panasonic 04 08 11 Philco 04 06 12 Philips 03 04 06 12 Pioneer 06 Portland 06 12 PROSCAN 01 Proton 06 Quasar 11 Radio Shack 01 05 13 RCA 01 06 12 Realistic 05 Sampo 06 Samsung 06 09 12 Sanyo 05 08 Sears 01 05 06 07 08 10 12 Sharp 06 13 Sony 03 Soundesign 06 Sylvania 04 06 ...

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Страница 37: ...peration Picture Search Options Commercial Scan Tracking Pro Tect Plus Locking Time Counter On Screen Displays 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 PROGRAM THE REMOTE 5 8 REFERENCE ...

Страница 38: ...rn to normal playback Slow Motion You can view a tape during play or play pause using slow motion Slow motion works well for tapes recorded at the SLP speed 1 During playback press PAUSE and then FORWARD or REVERSE to begin slow motion playback 2 Press FORWARD to increase or REVERSE to decrease the speed of the search 3 Use TRACKING up or down to remove any streaks from the picture 4 Press PLAY to...

Страница 39: ...tons to enter the number of marks you want to search Press CLEAR on the remote to correct an entry 4 Press FORWARD to search forward or REVERSE to search in reverse The VCR will locate your index mark and begin playback If you did not enter a specific index number the VCR will locate the next index mark and begin playback 5 Press STOP to end index searching Some index marks may be missed by the VC...

Страница 40: ...egments Press SEARCH once during playback to advance the tape approximately 30 seconds of recorded material Each press of the SEARCH button adds an additional 30 seconds up to five minutes Tracking Your VCR has automatic tracking which removes the streaks or snow from the picture Automatic tracking is activated when you insert a tape or turn on the VCR Occasionally you may need to manually adjust ...

Страница 41: ...am or play back a segment of a recorded tape It helps locate the beginning or end of programs you taped The time counter resets to 0 00 00 whenever the tape is ejected from the VCR For example if you record a 30 minute program at the beginning of the tape and you want to go to the end of that program to begin another recording you would 1 Press INFO twice to display the time counter 2 Press CLEAR ...

Страница 42: ...ess INFO to see the on screen displays 2 Press INFO again to have only the time counter remain on the screen 3 Press INFO again to have no displays appear on the TV screen This is useful for dubbing tapes Turning off the VCR also resets the displays Time Counter Only Does Not Time Out Stop Ch 05 0 30 00 11 18 99 Thu 01 30PM SLP SECONDS MINUTES HOURS 0 30 00 1 2 3 On Screen Display Times Out No Dis...

Страница 43: ...bles and keep them away from the audio video cables as much as possible Make sure all antennas and cables are properly grounded Refer to the Safety Tips sheet packed with your unit Protect Your Components from Overheating Do not block ventilation holes in any of the components Arrange the components so that air can circulate freely Do not stack components Allow adequate ventilation when placing yo...

Страница 44: ... ANT and OUT TO TV The coaxial cable supplied with your VCR is used to connect the VCR s OUT TO TV jack and your TV s antenna input Audio Video Jacks and Cables RCA type The AUDIO VIDEO jacks provide very good picture quality and mono sound and can be used if your TV has audio video input jacks These jacks are used for most audio video connections between components The VCR AUDIO VIDEO jacks are c...

Страница 45: ...wn in the diagrams here and are unsure of how to connect them refer to the instruction manual that came with that particular component Advantages of Audio Video Cable Connections Using a simple coaxial cable connection gives you good picture quality If your television has audio video jacks I highly recommend using them to get even better picture quality and mono sound when recording and playing ba...

Страница 46: ...x To connect 1 Connect cables as shown 2 Return to First Things First then follow the steps Using This Connection Tune your TV to channel 3 or 4 whichever one you selected with the 3 CH 4 switch on the back of the VCR Auto TV VCR Setting Set the Auto TV VCR feature to ON To play a tape 1 Insert a tape 2 If necessary press PLAY To record one program and watch another 1 Begin recording a program usi...

Страница 47: ...les To connect 1 Connect cables as shown 2 Return to First Things First then follow the steps Using This Connection Tune your TV to its video input channel Use of TV VCR button is not required Auto TV VCR Setting Set the Auto TV VCR feature to OFF To play a tape 1 Insert a tape 2 If necessary press PLAY To record one program and watch another 1 Begin recording a program using one of the recording ...

Страница 48: ...rst Things First then follow the steps Using This Connection Tune your TV to its video input channel Use of TV VCR button is not required Auto TV VCR Setting Set the Auto TV VCR feature to OFF To play a tape 1 Insert a tape 2 If necessary press PLAY To record a scrambled or unscrambled program and watch another unscrambled program 1 Begin recording a scrambled or unscrambled program through the ca...

Страница 49: ...ols and display You also will find a Troubleshooting Tips section in this Appendix which might help to resolve some of those simple problems Finally this section contains your warranty information 5 SETTING UP THE VCR 2 FIRST THINGS FIRST 1 RECORDING 3 VCR BASICS 4 OTHER FEATURES 7 6 CONNECTIONS 5 PROGRAM THE REMOTE 5 8 REFERENCE ...

Страница 50: ...ns the VCR on or off RECORD Starts VCR recording Used for express recording Remote Sensor Receives signals from the remote control Aim the remote at this sensor REV Rewinds the tape when the VCR is stopped Searches the picture in reverse during playback Starts slow motion during play pause and decreases slow motion speed STOP EJECT Stops the normal functions such as record playback rewind fast for...

Страница 51: ...in record pause mode REW Rewinding R0 30 Express recording in progress SAFE Pro Tect Plus feature turned on SRCH and SRCH Forward or reverse search STOP Tape is stopped Tape Speed Indicator SP and SLP Press SPEED on the remote to change Time The current time appears Only an AM indicator appears with the time There is no indicator for PM TIMER Lights during express recording and when VCR is turned ...

Страница 52: ...e a VCR or camcor der when it is connected to these jacks Use INPUT on the VCR s remote to select L to record from these jacks AUDIO and VIDEO OUT Jacks Sends signals from VCR to another component like a TV or VCR when it is connected to these jacks IN FROM ANT Jack Receives a signal fr om an antenna or cable system when attached OUT TO TV Jack Passes signal to TV using the cable supplied CH IN OU...

Страница 53: ...low the step above If those options do not work try the following ideas You might access the V ideo Input Channel by pressing a button on the remote see table below selecting the channel from the TV s menu system see table below tuning directly to the channel by selecting a specific channel number see table below going through all the channels in the channel list by pressing the channel up or down...

Страница 54: ...e sure the antenna connections are secure and correct Snowy or no picture during playback Press TV VCR to turn VCR indicator on Check TV channel selected 3 or 4 to make sure it matches the channel selected with 3 CH 4 switch on back of VCR Check to make sure the TV s fine tuning is correct for the channel you have selected Check video cable connections between VCR and TV monitor Check to make sure...

Страница 55: ... Check the ProTect Plus feature Rewind does not operate Check to make sure the tape is not already rewound Timer recording not made or wrong program recorded Check to make sure the cable box or satellite receiver was turned on when recording was to begin Check to make sure the program was entered correctly wrong channel or times Power interruption Reset the clock Check to see if time and date are ...

Страница 56: ...ls correctly Check to make sure the antenna connections are secure and correct Check to make sure the Signal Type CABLE ANTENNA feature is set correctly If Detect Automatically was selected for the Signal Type in the Auto Channel Search menu try using either CABLE TV or ANTENNA instead May not be necessary if using a cable box for all channels Contact your local cable company for more information ...

Страница 57: ...55 APPENDIX REFERENCE Time counter disappears during searching This is normal On screen menus appear in English French or Spanish Check LANGUAGE feature ...

Страница 58: ... 360 mm 9 4 inches deep 240 mm Weight 6 pounds 2 8 kg Storage Temperature 22 F to 149 F Range 30 C to 65 C Operating 41 F to 104 F Temperature Range 5 C to 40 C Check your cable company s compatibility requirements Cleaning the VCR Use a soft cloth or dusting attachment of your vacuum cleaner to dust your VCR Remove dust from the ventilation holes of the cabinet Plastic surfaces are easily scratch...

Страница 59: ...eted What your warranty does not cover Customer instruction Your Owner s Manual clearly describes how to install adjust and operate your VCR Any additional information should be obtained from your Dealer Installation and related adjustments Signal reception problems not caused by your VCR Damage from misuse or neglect Cleaning of video audio heads Batteries A VCR that has been modified or incorpor...

Страница 60: ...nel VCR viewing 5 Channels adding removing 12 detecting automatically 10 VCR list 10 CHANNELS menu 9 11 Cleaning the VCR 56 CLEAR button 20 29 37 Clearing programs 28 Commercial scan 38 Component buttons 20 Connecting components 41 Connections 41 A V cables 43 TV with A V jacks 45 TV with RF jack only 44 two VCRs 29 unscrambling pay channels 46 Copying and editing tapes 29 D Date and time 12 Dayli...

Страница 61: ...E button 21 32 N Number buttons 6 15 21 22 O ON OFF button 22 32 On screen displays 40 OUT TO TV jack 4 5 6 17 42 43 50 Overheating 41 P Panel brightness 18 PAUSE button 21 23 29 36 Picture search options 36 PLAY button 21 22 37 39 44 45 46 48 PLAY PAUSE button 22 Playing a tape 22 POWER button 5 22 48 Power surges 41 PREFERENCES menu 16 17 Pro Tect Plus locking feature 39 Problem solving 52 Progr...

Страница 62: ...an 38 forward and reverse 36 frame advance 36 index 37 slow motion 36 zero 38 SEARCH button 21 37 38 Sensor remote 48 SET DAYLIGHT SAVINGS menu 14 SET TIME AND DATE menu 15 SET TIME ZONE menu 13 Set up cable box 9 channels list 10 language 8 time and date 12 time and date manual 14 using menus 8 using PREFERENCES menu 16 Signal type 12 Slow motion search 36 SLP tape speed 23 SLP indicator 49 Solvi...

Страница 63: ...shooting tips 52 TV button 5 20 32 51 TV codes 33 TV function buttons 21 TV programming the remote to control 32 TV VCR button 21 43 48 49 TV s video input channel 51 V VCR back panel 50 VCR button 5 20 39 VCR channel list 10 VCR cleaning 56 VCR display panel 49 VCR front panel 48 VCR indicator 49 VCR MAIN MENU 6 8 9 10 12 16 27 VCR viewing channel 5 VCR1 button 17 VCR2 button 16 VHS index search ...

Страница 64: ...e please contact your dealer or the nearest Servicenter from the yellow pages Please do not send any products to the Indianapolis address listed in this manual or on the carton This will only add delays in service for your product As an ENERGY STAR Partner Thomson Consumer Electronics has determined that this product or product model meets the ENERGY STAR guidelines for energy efficiency ...

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