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Aute Volume

Off

SETUP

 

Sound Mode item can be changed between Standard, Music, Film, Sports and User.

 

Auto Volume item enables to adjust off or on for control volume automatic.

 

Treble and Bass items can be adjusted from 0 to 100

 

Balance item can be adjusted from -50 to +50 for L and R sound balance. Default is 0.

CHANNEL

Select DTV Channel item to setting DTV channels. You may select Auto Tuning, Manual Tuning, 

Program Edit.

Tuning 

Tuning 

Programme

SETUP

 

Auto Tuning item enables to adjust channel setting automatically.  

Select Auto Tuning item, press [

] or [OK] button to enter Country selection menu. 

Press [

/

] button to select Country.

Press [OK] button to start auto searching.

DTV MENU SETUP

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Страница 1: ...MANUAL LD 185DCH HD COMBI TV DVD and DVB T LD 216DCH HD COMBI TV DVD and DVB T Please read this manual carefully before operating your TV...

Страница 2: ...the case of the LCD TV monitor adapter Never use your LCD TV monitor adapter if the power cord has been damaged Do not allow anything to rest on the power cord and keep the cord away from place where...

Страница 3: ...keep it away from heaters stoves fireplaces and other sources of heat Unplug the DC adapter when it is going to be left unused for an extended period of time To reduce the risk of fire or electric sh...

Страница 4: ...be disposed of separately from domestic waste either by taking it to a separate waste disposal site for electric and electronic appliances or by returning it to your dealer when you buy another simila...

Страница 5: ...ive power socket adapter please plug it with TV first As part of People of Lava environmental policy your machine is equipped with a power saving feature which after four hours of inactivity no channe...

Страница 6: ...peration 7 DTV MENU SETUP Picture 8 Sound 8 Channel 9 Dtv setup 10 Function 13 Electronic program guide epg 13 Information 13 ATV MENU SETUP Picture 14 Sound 14 Channel 15 Function 16 TELETEXT FUNCTIO...

Страница 7: ...play directly by number buttons 31 Select language audio 31 Repeat playback 32 Repeat playback of selected segment 32 Fast playback 33 Play from the desired position 33 Zooming the displayed frame 34...

Страница 8: ...in standby mode and green when in working normally IR sensor window RIGHT PANEL SETUP Enter or exit TV menu CHANNEL Increase or decrease channel number VOLUME Increase or decrease volume SOURCE Selec...

Страница 9: ...nterface SD MMC MS card reader interface STOP button EJECT button PLAY PAUSE button LEFT PANEL HDMI 12 24V DC SCART PC Audio COMPONENT Common Interface VGA COMPONENT Headphone TV Antenna FM Antenna PA...

Страница 10: ...3 CONNECTING DIAGRAM HDMI DVD or VCR player NOTE You should insert all necessary cables BEFORE plugging in power cord EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT...

Страница 11: ...nfirm the selections 12 VOL To increase or decrease sound volume 13 INDEX To display main content page when playing the teletext in analog TV To stop playing valid in DVD mode 14 I II To switch the au...

Страница 12: ...ment repeat valid in DVD mode select page in analog TV teletext mode Fast enter menu not valid in digital TV DVD and FM 35 GOTO RED To play from a certain time point valid in DVD mode select page in a...

Страница 13: ...rge short circuit disassemble and heat the battery or throw it into fire Pay attention not to fall or knock the remote controller which will cause damage or function failure to it Do not use new and o...

Страница 14: ...SOURCE OPERATION You can select input source by using source menu Press SOURCE button to show the menu as follows DTV ATV DVD COMPONENT SCART HDMI VGA USB CARD FM The current source item is highlighte...

Страница 15: ...tton to adjust parameter value Press SETUP button to return to main menu sections PICTURE Select PICTURE item to adjust picture parameters You may select Picture Mode color temperature and adjust Cont...

Страница 16: ...m can be adjusted from 50 to 50 for L and R sound balance Default is 0 CHANNEL Select DTV Channel item to setting DTV channels You may select Auto Tuning Manual Tuning Program Edit Tuning Tuning Progr...

Страница 17: ...10 DTV SETUP Manual Tuning item enables to change channel settings List EXIT OK Program Edit item enables to enter submenu to set channel DELETE MOVE SKIP and FAV List EXIT OK DTV MENU SETUP...

Страница 18: ...display CI information Antenna Power Off SETUP Lock item enable to lock the auto tuning manual tuning program edit and block program If you want to change the lock system you must enter default passwo...

Страница 19: ...ff SETUP Time item enables to enter sub menu Time Zone Daylight Clock Stockholm GMT 1 Off SETUP Clock to adjust the real time Time Zone to adjust the time zone Daylight to adjust summer time off or on...

Страница 20: ...vailable channels In addition the detailed information about the program is often available in t he EPG The availability and the amount of program details will vary depending on the broadcaster INFORM...

Страница 21: ...adjust parameter value Press SETUP button to return to main menu sections PICTURE Select PICTURE item to adjust picture parameters You may adjust Picture Mode Contrast Brightness Colour Sharpness Tint...

Страница 22: ...our System Audio System Fine Tune Manual Tuning Auto Tuning and Program Edit Channel item enables to change the channel number Audio System item enables to select sound system B G DK I and L Fine Tune...

Страница 23: ...eduction Sleep Timer Blue Screen Country and Restore Setting Language English Aspect Ratio 16 9 Noise Reduction Mid Sleep Timer Off Blue Screen On Country Poland Restore Factory Default SETUP Language...

Страница 24: ...When a certain teletext page displays press MIX button TV and teletext information will display on screen at the same time Press MIX button again and only teletext image displays In mix mode the dist...

Страница 25: ...DMI modes is the same as that of TV mode except the section You can find it in preceding pages NOTE If no signal input in DTV ATV SCART AV S VIDEO HDMI the screen will show as below This unit will swi...

Страница 26: ...Setup Select VGA Setup item to adjust such parameters as Horizontal Pos Vertical Pos Size Phase Auto Adjust SETUP NOTE When your PC goes into standby mode the screen will show as bellow This unit will...

Страница 27: ...just RGB value of colour temperature NOTE The picture will be displayed incorrectly while adjusting FUNCTION Select FUNCTION item to adjust function parameters You may select Language Sleep Timer Aspe...

Страница 28: ...press OK button to save the new channel Auto Tuning item enables you to search and store all the channels in FM band 87 5 108MHz Move the cursor to auto search then press or button to begin auto sear...

Страница 29: ...FUNCTION Select FUNCTION item to adjust function parameters You may select Language Sleep Timer and Restore factory default Noise reduction Language item enables to select the OSD language Sleep Timer...

Страница 30: ...ces Audio Human Input Device HID Mass storage Most flash memory USB HDD etc Belongs to Mass Storage Class Mass Storage Class includes 2 transport manners 1 USB 1 1 Mass Storage Class Control Bulk Inte...

Страница 31: ...window Display the current playing mode 2 DIR window Display the path 3 File window Display the current path s file 4 Preview window Movie playing or image preview window 5 Information window Display...

Страница 32: ...connecting your device to the TV please back up your files to prevent them from damage or loss of data The manufacturer is not responsible for any data file damage or data loss 6 Do not disconnect the...

Страница 33: ...sume 5 Press to stop playing 6 You can set the repeat mode Press REPEAT button to set the mode off repeat one or repeat all Press EXIT button to exit music mode PLAY MOVIE 1 Press button to select ite...

Страница 34: ...ard 4x fast forward play 4 Press button and the unit begins fast backward playback Press button each time and the program playback speed switches in the following sequence circularly Play 2x fast back...

Страница 35: ...T button OPERATE IN FULL SCREEN STATE 1 Press SETUP button to enter into the main menu The menu setup is the same as AV mode You can find it in preceding pages 2 Press button can turn to the last or n...

Страница 36: ...ess button the unit will continue to play from the stopped point At the stop state if you press button the unit will play from the beginning point of the disc Press button when playing MPEG4 discs and...

Страница 37: ...This player can save the currently played time point automatically when you leave the current DVD disc playback switch from DVD to card read state switch from DVD signal source to other signal source...

Страница 38: ...VCD DVD 1 Press AUDIO button As for DVD discs with multiple languages you may select the desired language when playing DVD disc Audio 1 2 French Audio 2 2 Chinese As for SVCD VCD or CD disc with multi...

Страница 39: ...T CD VCD SVCD DVD MPEG4 When playing disc you may press A B button to play your desired segment content repeatedly 1 In normal playback press A B button at the beginning point point A of the segment t...

Страница 40: ...this position 1 Search title and chapter For instance search the 2nd chapter in title 6 Press GOTO button and TV screen displays Title 03 30 Chapter 02 Press button to move cursor and lighten the titl...

Страница 41: ...out the player frame 1 When playing a disc press the ZOOM button can open the zoom in out function and the TV screen displays take X2 mode as an example The frame is magnified to 2 times of the norma...

Страница 42: ...ent picture quality JPEG is featuring small size data convenient application and supported by most picture processing software so it is very fit to store photos The strong decoding capability of this...

Страница 43: ...vie 2 Play JPEG file After you put a JPEG format file into the unit it will search disc information and display the operation menu as in the following figure After selecting JPEG file the preview wind...

Страница 44: ...select the picture you desired and press OK button to confirm 4 When in preview playback pressing DVD MENU button may exit preview playback function 2 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 POWER MUTE SLEEP I II RECALL S...

Страница 45: ...e mode Medium Warm Cool SOUND Select SOUND item to adjust sound parameters You may select Soun d Mode Treble Bass Balance and Auto Volum e Sound Mode item can be changed between Music Film Sports User...

Страница 46: ...ian Macedonian Russian Serbian and Ukrainian languages PREFERENCE SETUP TV Type To set the output video system of this player Optional settings Auto PAL NTSC Default PAL PBC this item is used to set P...

Страница 47: ...m for details Password this item is used to set a four digital password to enable you to change the parental control ratings Default 7890 Default this item is used to restore all settings to the defau...

Страница 48: ...ase change the display setup Horizontal scanning frequency 30kHz 75kHz Vertical scanning frequency 50 Hz 75Hz SOUND AND TV TROUBLESHOOTING Symptom Causes and Correction Cannot power on Please make sur...

Страница 49: ...well adjusted 1 Try to change the color system 2 Reset the TV color No disc reading 1 Disc warped or dirty 2 Disc not correctly placed 3 Condensation on laser head 1 Clean the disc 2 Reload a disc wi...

Страница 50: ...emperature Working humidity Storing temperature Storing humidity 5 C 35 C 10 80 20 C 45 C 5 95 Audio parameter Audio input Frequency response 3 5 jack L R 0 5 0 3Vrms TV signal 100 Hz 12 kHz 3dB AV 10...

Страница 51: ...Working temperature Working humidity Storing temperature Storing humidity 5 C 35 C 10 80 20 C 45 C 5 95 Audio parameter Audio input Frequency response 3 5 jack L R 0 5 0 3Vrms TV signal 100 Hz 12 kHz...

Страница 52: ...1280X1024 64 0 60 0 VESA 1280X1024 85 0 75 0 VESA 1600X1200 75 0 60 0 VESA 1600X1200 81 3 65 0 VESA NOTES This product does not support the display mode not listed above In order to achieve the best...

Страница 53: ...ANV NDARHANDBOK LD 185DCH HD KOMBINERAD TV DVD och DVB T LD 216DCH HD KOMBINERAD TV DVD och DVB T L s den h r bruksanvisningen noggrant innan du anv nder TV n...

Страница 54: ...pterns h lje Anv nd aldrig din LCD TV bildsk rm adapter om str msladden r skadad St ll aldrig n got p str msladden och h ll sladden borta fr n platser d r man kan r ka trampa p den Se till att du h ll...

Страница 55: ...l den borta fr n v rmeelement spisar eldst der och andra v rmek llor Dra ut str madaptern om TV n inte ska anv ndas under en l ngre tid F r att minska risken f r brand elektriska st tar eller bild och...

Страница 56: ...astas bland de vanliga hush llssoporna n r dess livstid r slut Apparaten b r i st llet kasseras vid en s rskild insamlingsplats f r elektriska och elektroniska apparater eller l mnas in till din terf...

Страница 57: ...i bilen m ste denna f rst s ttas in i TV n I enlighet med People of Lavas milj policy r din apparat f rsedd med en energisparfunktion som st nger av apparaten efter fyra timmars inaktivitet inga kana...

Страница 58: ...TURE 8 LJUD 8 KANAL CHANNEL 9 INST LLNINGAR F R DIGITAL TV 10 FUNKTION 13 ELEKTRONISK PROGRAMGUIDE EPG 13 INFORMATION 13 MENYINST LLNINGAR F R ANALOG TV BILD PICTURE 14 LJUD 14 Kanal Channel 15 FUNKTI...

Страница 59: ...A UPP DIREKT MED HJ LP AV SIFFERKNAPPARNA 31 V LJA SPR K LJUD 31 REPETERAD UPPSPELNING 32 REPETERA UPPSPELNING AV VALT SEGMENT 32 SNABB UPPSPELNING 33 SPELA UPP FR N NSKAD POSITION 33 ZOOMA IN DEN BIL...

Страница 60: ...och gr n vid vanlig anv ndning IR sensorf nster H GERPANELEN SETUP INST LLNINGAR f r att g in och ur TV menyn CHANNEL KANAL byter till h gre eller l gre kanalnummer VOLUME VOLYM h jer och s nker voly...

Страница 61: ...nssnitt Gr nssnitt f r SD MMC MS kortl sare STOPP knapp EJECT knapp PLAY PAUS knapp V NSTERPANELEN HDMI 12 24V DC SCART PC ljuding ng Common Interface VGA COMPONENT H rlurar TV antenn FM antenn PANEL...

Страница 62: ...3 ANSLUTNINGSDIAGRAM HDMI DVD eller videospelare OBSERVERA Du b r s tta i alla n dv ndiga kablar INNAN du s tter i str msladden EXTERN UTRUSTNING...

Страница 63: ...ital TV eller FM l get 11 Knappen OK F r att bekr fta val 12 VOL F r att ka eller minska ljudvolymen 13 INDEX F r att visa huvudsidan n r man visar text TV i l get f r analog TV F r att stoppa uppspel...

Страница 64: ...ppspelning bak t g ller DVD l get 34 A B GR N F r att upprepa segment g ller DVD l get v lja sida i analogt text TV l ge snabbt g in p menyn g ller ej digital TV DVD och FM 35 GOTO R D F r att spela u...

Страница 65: ...a plocka aldrig is r med dem och v rm inte upp dem eller kasta dem p eld Var f rsiktig med fj rrkontrollen s att den inte tappas i golvet eller liknande d den kan skadas och kanske inte fungerar som d...

Страница 66: ...u kan v lja ing ngsk lla genom att anv nda k llmenyn Tryck p knappen SOURCE p LCD TV ns h gra sida f r att visa f ljande meny DTV ATV DVD COMPONENT SCART HDMI VGA USB CARD FM Den k lla som f r n rvara...

Страница 67: ...udmenyns sektioner BILD PICTURE V lj alternativet PICTURE BILD f r att justera bildparametrar Du kan v lja Bildl ge Picture Mode F rgtemperatur Color Temperature och justera Kontrast Contrast Ljusstyr...

Страница 68: ...L R F rinst llt v rde r 0 KANAL CHANNEL V lj alternativet kanal Channel f r att st lla in DTV kanaler Du kan v lja mellan automatisk inst llning Auto Tuning manuell inst llning Manual Tuning och progr...

Страница 69: ...llning g r det m jligt att ndra kanalinst llningar List EXIT OK Alternativet Programme Edit Programredigering g r det m jligt att g in p undermenyn f r att st lla in DELETE TA BORT MOVE FLYTTA SKIP HO...

Страница 70: ...tion Antenna Power Off SETUP Alternativet Lock L s g r det m jligt att l sa automatisk inst llning manuell inst llning programredigering samt att blockera program Om du vill ndra p l ssystemet m ste d...

Страница 71: ...id kan man g in p undermenyn Time Zone Daylight Clock Stockholm GMT 1 Off SETUP Clock Klocka justerar den verkliga tiden Tidszon Time Zone justerar tidszon Daylight Sommartid justerar sommartid av ell...

Страница 72: ...n visas en elektronisk programguide p bilden Den elektroniska programguiden ger information om t ex program tider och kanaler Dessutom finns det ofta ytterligare detaljerad information om program till...

Страница 73: ...PICTURE V lj alternativet PICTURE BILD f r att justera bildparametrar Du kan justera Bildl ge Picture Mode Kontrast Contrast Ljusstyrka Brightness F rg Colour Sk rpa Sharpness Nyans Tint och F rgtempe...

Страница 74: ...Fine Tune 192 25 MHz Colour System AUTO Audio System BG Manual Tuning Auto Tuning Programme Edit SETUP Alternativet Channel Kanal g r det m jligt att ndra kanalnummer Med alternativet ljudsystem kan m...

Страница 75: ...ng Sleep Timer Sleeptimer Blue Screen Bl sk rm Country Land och Restore Setting terst llning Alternativet Language Spr k g r det m jligt att v lja OSD spr k Alternativet Sleep Timer Sleeptimer g r det...

Страница 76: ...p en TV kanal och p text TV samtidigt Tryck p MIX knappen n r du tittar p en viss sida p text TV s kommer b de TV bilden och text TV information att visas samtidigt p bilden Tryck p MIX knappen igen f...

Страница 77: ...ma som f r TV l get med undantag f r sektionen Du kan hitta information om denna p f ljande sidor OBSERVERA Om det inte finns n gon insignal i l gena DTV ATV SCART AV S VIDEO HDMI kommer bilden nedan...

Страница 78: ...som nedan Enheten kommer att sl ver till vilol ge automatiskt om ingen insignal finns under mer n 5 minuter I detta l ge kommer indikatorn att forts tta vara gr n och sk rmen st ngs av Du kan v cka sk...

Страница 79: ...a Language Spr k Sleep Timer Sleeptimer Aspect Ratio Bildf rh llande Blue Screen Bl sk rm och Restore Setting terst llning Language English Aspect Ratio 16 9 Noise Reduction Mid Sleep Timer Off Blue S...

Страница 80: ...en nya kanalen Alternativet Autoinst llning Auto Tuning l ter dig s ka och spara alla kanaler i FM bandet 87 5 108MHz Flytta mark ren till autos kning auto search och tryck sedan p knappen eller f r a...

Страница 81: ...N f r att justera funktionsparametrar Du kan v lja Spr k Language Sleeptimer Sleep Timer eller terst ll fabriksinst llningar Restore Factory Default eller Brusreducering Noise reduction Alternativet L...

Страница 82: ...nput Device HID masslagring flashminnen USB HDD etc Dessa tillh r klassen Masslagring Mass Storage Klassen masslagring inkluderar 2 verf ringsmetoder 1 USB 1 1 Masslagringsklassen Kontroll bulk avbrot...

Страница 83: ...elningsl ge 2 Adressf nster Visar nuvarande s kv g 3 Filf nster Visar filen f r nuvarande s kv g 4 F rhandsgranskningsf nster F nster f r f rhandsgranskning av film eller bild 5 Informationsf nster Vi...

Страница 84: ...till TV n b r du s kerhetskopiera dina filer f r att skydda dem mot eventuell skada eller dataf rlust Tillverkaren ansvarar ej f r eventuell skada eller dataf rlust 6 Anslut ej USB enheten medan den...

Страница 85: ...spelningen 6 Du kan st lla in repeat l ge Tryck p knappen REPEAT f r att st lla in n got av l gena off av repeat one repetera en eller repeat all repetera alla Tryck p knappen EXIT f r att g ur musikl...

Страница 86: ...t 4x snabbspolning fram t uppspelning 4 Tryck p knappen f r att p b rja snabb uppspelning bak t F r varje tryck p knappen kommer hastigheten f r programuppspelningen att ndras enligt f ljande Uppspeln...

Страница 87: ...trycka p knappen eller exit ANV NDNING I FULLSK RMSL GET 1 Tryck p knappen SETUP f r att g in p huvudmenyn Menyinst llningarna r desamma som i AV l get Du kan hitta information om denna p f ljande si...

Страница 88: ...t b rja spela upp fr n den punkt d r uppspelningen avslutats om man trycker p knappen Om spelaren r i stoppl get kommer den att b rja spela upp skivan fr n b rjan om man trycker p knappen Om man tryck...

Страница 89: ...n h r spelaren kan automatiskt spara den tidpunkt d du avslutar uppspelning av nuvarande DVD skiva om du t ex g r fr n DVD l get till kortl sningsl get eller fr n DVD till annan signalk lla eller g r...

Страница 90: ...ALL SIFFROR V LJA SPR K LJUD CD VCD SVCD DVD 1 Tryck p knappen AUDIO F r DVD skivor med flera spr k kan du v lja nskat spr k f r uppspelning DVD skiva Audio 1 2 French Audio 2 2 Chinese F r SVCD VCD e...

Страница 91: ...NING AV VALT SEGMENT CD VCD SVCD DVD MPEG4 N r du spelar upp en skiva kan du trycka p knappen A B f r att spela upp nskat segmentinneh ll upprepade g nger 1 Under normal uppspelning tryck p A B knappe...

Страница 92: ...tel och ett kapitel S k t ex efter det andra kapitlet i titel 6 Tryck p GOTO knappen F ljande kommer d att visas p TV bilden Title 03 30 Chapter 02 Tryck p knappen f r att flytta p mark ren och marker...

Страница 93: ...Zooma in ut spelarens bild 1 Genom att trycka p knappen ZOOM n r man spelar upp en skiva kan man ppna zoom in zoom ut funktionen P TV bilden visas d f ljande l get X2 visas som exempel Bilden har f r...

Страница 94: ...av de flesta bildbehandlingsprogram Denna enhet kan med sin starka avkodningskapacitet avkoda och spela upp filer med ovanst ende format Medan uppspelning sker kommer en anv ndningsmeny att visas p bi...

Страница 95: ...la upp JPEG filer N r du s tter i en fil med JPEG format i enheten kommer enheten att s ka efter skivinformation och visa en anv ndningsmeny som p f ljande bild Efter att du valt en JPEG fil kommer et...

Страница 96: ...skad bild och trycka p knappen OK f r att bekr fta 4 Tryck p knappen DVD MENU n r du r i f rhandsvisningsl get f r att g ur f rhandsvisningsfunktionen 2 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 POWER MUTE SLEEP I II RECALL...

Страница 97: ...m Warm eller Kall Cool LJUD V lj alternativet SOUND LJUD f r att justera ljudparametrar Du kan v lja ljudl ge Sound Mode diskant Treble bas Bass balans Balance samt automatisk volym Auto Volume Altern...

Страница 98: ...makedonska ryska serbiska och ukrainska spr k PREFERENCE SETUP EGNA INST LLNINGAR TV typ TV Type F r att st lla in videosystem f r spelaren Inst llningsalternativ Auto PAL NTSC F rinst llt alternativ...

Страница 99: ...f r ldrakontroll F rinst llt alternativ 7890 F rinst llt alternativ Detta alternativ anv nds f r att terst lla alla inst llningar i inst llningsmenyn till f rinst llda v rden f rutom F r ldrakontroll...

Страница 100: ...isontellt frekvensomr de 30kHz 75kHz Vertikalt frekvensomr de 50 Hz 75Hz LJUD OCH FELS KNING F R TV Problem Orsaker och l sningar Kan inte s tta p Se till att str msladden r ordentligt ansluten Inget...

Страница 101: ...justerad 1 Prova med att ndra p f rgsystemet 2 St ll om f rgen f r TV n Skivan kan inte l sas 1 Skivan r skev eller smutsig 2 Skivan r inte r tt isatt 3 Kondensering p laserhuvudet 1 Reng r skivan 2 S...

Страница 102: ...ingsfuktighet 5 C 35 C 10 80 20 C 45 C 5 95 Ljudparameter Ljuding ng Frekvensrespons 3 5 uttag L R 0 5 0 3Vrms TV signal 100 Hz 12 kHz 3dB AV 100 Hz 15 kHz 3dB DVD Skivtyp DVD VIDEO MPEG4 SVCD VCD1 0...

Страница 103: ...rvaringsfuktighet 5 C 35 C 10 80 20 C 45 C 5 95 Ljudparameter Ljuding ng Frekvensrespons 3 5 uttag L R 0 5 0 3Vrms TV signal 100 Hz 12 kHz 3dB AV 100 Hz 15 kHz 3dB DVD Skivtyp DVD VIDEO MPEG4 SVCD VCD...

Страница 104: ...A 1024 X768 60 5 75 0 VESA 1280X1024 64 0 60 0 VESA 1280X1024 85 0 75 0 VESA 1600X1200 75 0 60 0 VESA 1600X1200 81 3 65 0 VESA OBSERVERA Denna produkt har inte st d f r visningsl gen som inte listas o...

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