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User's Guide HDSP System HDSP 9652

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26.5 Recording a Subgroup (Loopback) 

 
TotalMix supports a routing of the subgroup outputs (=hardware outputs, bottom row) to the 
recording software. Unfortunately this feature is 

not

 available with the 

HDSP 9652

, as the 

FPGA of the card has no resources left for a hardware implementation. Therefore this chapter 
describes the loopback mode when used with an external cable loop. 
 
A loopback is used to record the playback signal. This way, complete submixes can be re-
corded, the playback of a software can be recorded by another software, and several input sig-
nals can be mixed into one record channel. Please note these important issues: 
 

The connection of digital output and input generates a clock loop, and with this a malfunc-
tion, in case the card has not been switched into clock mode Master, or an external clock 
signal of highest priority is used. 

 
The latter is the case when the card is in 

AutoSync

 mode, and is synchronized by an external 

clock signal from the input selected in 

Pref Sync Ref

. For example set up a loopback cabling 

with SPDIF or ADAT3, but clock the HDSP 9652 via input ADAT1. 
 

Connecting digital output and input can cause a digital feedback, which is more severe 
than any analog one. Caution! 

 

This is a problem for both TotalMix (monitoring an input signal to the same output channel) and 
the DAW software (which usually activates monitoring in the same way). 
 

Recording a Software's playback 

In real world application, recording a software's output with another software will show the fol-
lowing problem: The record software tries to open the same playback channel as the playback 
software (already active), or the playback one has already opened the input channel which 
should be used by the record software. 
 
This problem can easily be solved. First make sure that all rules for proper multi-client operation 
are met (not using the same record/playback channels in both programs). Then route the play-
back signal via TotalMix to a hardware output in the range of the record software, and send it to 
the record software via the loopback cable. 
 

Mixing several input signals into one record channel 

In some cases it is useful to record several sources in only one track. For example when using 
two microphones when recording instruments and loudspeakers, TotalMix loopback saves an 
external mixing desk. Simply route/mix the input signals all to the same output (third row), then 
send this output to a record channel via the loopback cable. This way any number of input 
channels from different sources can be recorded into one single track. 
 
 
Note: The data recorded using the loopback cable is delayed by about 3 samples. This value is 
extremely low, because the HDSP 9652 provides digital interfacing only. And therefore the addi-
tional delay can simply be ignored. 

 

 

Summary of Contents for Hammerfall HDSP 9652

Page 1: ...uide Hammerfall DSP System HDSP 9652 PCI Busmaster Digital I O System 2 24 Channels SPDIF ADAT Interface 24 Bit 96 kHz Digital Audio ADAT Sync In 2 x MIDI I O TotalMix 24 Bit 96 kHz 9 SyncAlign ZLM Sy...

Page 2: ...12 10 3 De Installing the Drivers 13 10 4 Firmware Update 13 11 Configuring the HDSP 9652 11 1 Settings Dialog 14 11 2 Clock Modes Synchronization 16 12 Operation and Usage 12 1 Playback 18 12 2 DVD P...

Page 3: ...21 6 PCI Compatibility 36 21 7 Various Information 37 21 Hotline Troubleshooting 37 Connections and TotalMix 22 Digital Connections 24 1 ADAT 40 24 2 SPDIF 40 24 3 Word Clock 41 24 4 MIDI 41 23 Word...

Page 4: ...ings 59 28 5 Recording a Subgroup Loopback 60 28 6 Using external Effects Devices 61 27 TotalMix MIDI Remote Control 29 1 Overview 62 29 2 Mapping 62 29 3 Setup 63 29 4 Operation 63 29 5 Simple MIDI C...

Page 5: ...User s Guide HDSP System HDSP 9652 RME 5 User s Guide HDSP 9652 General...

Page 6: ...cable D type to D type phono MIDI breakout cable Internal cable 2 core Flat ribbon cable 14 conductor 2 optical cable TOSLINK 2 m 6 6 ft 3 System Requirements Windows XP or higher Mac OS X 10 4 8 or...

Page 7: ...7 Replace the computer s housing 8 Reconnect all cables including the power cord 6 Hardware Connectors 6 1 External Connectors HDSP 9652 consists of the main PCI board and an Expansion Board All the...

Page 8: ...in the Settings dialog Connection to an AEB4 I or AEB8 I When using these no longer available Expansion Boards ST7 must also be connected to the Expansion Board The highest sample rate is 48 kHz Sele...

Page 9: ...the owner s expense RME does not accept claims for damages of any kind especially consequential damage Liabil ity is limited to the value of the Hammerfall DSP The general terms of business drawn up...

Page 10: ...ever there is no guarantee that interference will not occur in a particular instal lation If this equipment does cause harmful interference to radio or television reception which can be determined by...

Page 11: ...User s Guide HDSP System HDSP 9652 RME 11 User s Guide HDSP 9652 Driver Installation and Operation Windows...

Page 12: ...the Driver Software Update dialog The refore this dialog has to be started manually after the failed driver installation Hit the Win key type Device Manager start the Device Manager by selecting it fr...

Page 13: ...talled driver Start the program hdsp_wdm_fut exe The Flash Update Tool displays the current revision of the HDSP 9652 and whether it needs an update or not If so then please press the Update button A...

Page 14: ...eans that any new settings might not be applied immediately The status displays at the bottom of the dialog box give the user precise information about the current status of the system Master Slave sa...

Page 15: ...ional Emphasis and Non Audio please refer to chapter 22 2 SPDIF Freq Displays the sample rate of the signal at the SPDIF input Time Code Shows the time code from the input ADAT Sync Word Clock Out The...

Page 16: ...itch be tween clock modes automatically Selecting AutoSync will activate this mode AutoSync guarantees that normal record and record while play will always work correctly In certain cases however e g...

Page 17: ...s The ADAT1 and ADAT2 in puts are receiving signals from a digital mixing desk that has been set to clock mode Internal or Master An ADAT recorder is connected to input ADAT3 The Ham merfall DSP is se...

Page 18: ...udio The screenshot shows a typical configuration dialog of a stereo wave editor After selecting a device audio data is sent to either an ADAT or SPDIF port depending on which has been selected as pla...

Page 19: ...anel Sounds and Multimedia Audio and Use only default devices has to be checked Additionally the loudspeaker setup found under Volume Speaker Settings Ad vanced has to be changed from Stereo to 5 1 Su...

Page 20: ...f the driver s multichannel streaming ability option Interleaved see chapter 12 4 Sonar not only finds the stereo device mentioned above but also the 8 channel interleaved devices and adds the channel...

Page 21: ...s not possible to use one software with 44 1 kHz and the other with 48 kHz Different software can not use the same channels at the same time If for example Cubase uses channels 1 2 this playback pair...

Page 22: ...Vista 7 Control Panel Sound Playback Loudspeaker Configure 12 6 Digital Recording Unlike analog soundcards which produce empty wave files or noise when no input signal is present digital I O cards al...

Page 23: ...ntrol button opens the HDSP Settings dialog see chapter 11 Configuration 13 2 Channel Count under ASIO At a sample rate of 88 2 or 96 kHz the ADAT optical input and outputs operate in S MUX mode so th...

Page 24: ...ring ADM Please note that currently Nuendo Cubase and Logic either do not support ADM completely or error free A well known problem is the wrong operation of a stereo channel s panorama function In ca...

Page 25: ...causes a lot of confusion as the driver seems to behave completely buggy and the user does not recognize the simple reason for it for example simul taneous operation of ASIO and GSIF on the same chann...

Page 26: ...ctly from the HDSP system hardware with near zero CPU load Spectral Analyser World wide unique 10 20 or 30 band display in analog bandpass filter technology 192 kHz capable Vector Audio Scope World wi...

Page 27: ...vice in the audio appli cation Check whether the sample frequency set in the audio application Recording properties or similar matches the input signal Crackle during record or playback Increase the n...

Page 28: ...nd memory range The newest information on hardware problems can always be found on our website www rme audio com section FAQ Hardware Alert about incompatible hardware The dialog New hardware componen...

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Page 30: ...ng the installation Exception driver updates from version 1 6 Remove the former Settings dialog and To talMix from the Login Items and delete both files from your hard drive This driver version did no...

Page 31: ...ecord if it can be avoided as this can cause unwanted noises The status displays at the bottom of the dialog box give the user precise information about the current status of the system and the status...

Page 32: ...rd Clock Out The word clock output signal usually equals the current sample rate Selecting Single Speed causes the output signal to always stay within the range of 32 kHz to 48 kHz So at 96 kHz sample...

Page 33: ...ave one master If the HDSP s clock mode is set to Master all other devices must be set to Slave The Hammerfall DSP s ADAT optical input and the SPDIF input operate simultaneously Be cause there is no...

Page 34: ...d ADAT2 inputs are in sync as they are driven by the same clock from the mixing desk but shows Lock instead of Sync for the ADAT3 input Because the ADAT recorder is not receiving any signals from HDSP...

Page 35: ...Nonetheless this driver file can be removed by simply dragging it to the trash bin This can be helpful in case a driver installation fails An incomplete installation can currently 10 3 2 only be dete...

Page 36: ...the number of available ADAT channels from 8 to 4 per ADAT port It is not possible to change the number of Core Audio devices without a reboot of the computer Therefore whenever the 9652 changes into...

Page 37: ...aker Setup Even multichannel playback Surround DVD Player can be set up easily OS X supports more than one audio device Since 10 4 Tiger Core Audio offers the function Aggregate Devices which allows t...

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Page 40: ...T signal from the HDSP 9652 Transmits channels 9 to 24 When sending a Double Speed signal this port carries channels 5 to 8 and 9 to 12 22 2 SPDIF Input The SPDIF input is configured in the Settings d...

Page 41: ...puts will only ac cept signals in Consumer format The audio bit in the header can be set to Non Audio This is often necessary when Dolby AC 3 encoded data is sent to external decoders surround sound r...

Page 42: ...BNC T adapters and terminated with resistors We recommend using off the shelf BNC cables to connect all devices as this type of cable is used for most computer networks You will find all the neces sa...

Page 43: ...d Clock the clock mode AutoSync has been activated and a valid word clock signal is present The signal at the BNC input can be Single or Double Speed the Hammerfall DSP automatically adapts to it As s...

Page 44: ...complete implementation of the ADM functions Integration of external devices Use TotalMix to insert external effects devices be it in the playback or in the record path Depending on the current applic...

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Page 46: ...own from an Inline desk so that the row Software Playback equals the Tape Return of a real mixing desk Top row Hardware inputs The level shown is that of the input signal i e fader independ ent Via fa...

Page 47: ...all playback tracks 1 1 to the corresponding hardware outputs with 0 dB gain and activating SPDIF monitoring Hold down Ctrl and click on preset button 1 to make sure that factory preset 1 is loaded Th...

Page 48: ...en channels 7 and 8 The present pan value is also being displayed below the fader Please carry out the same steps for Out 2 now in order to route it to output 8 as well In short While editing the Subm...

Page 49: ...Double Speed mode 96 kHz The display is adjusted accordingly and all fader settings remain stored 24 5 Submix View Such a wide range of possibilities make it difficult to maintain the overview Becaus...

Page 50: ...nge back and forth be tween a signal distribution complete input monitoring a stereo and mono mix and various submixes without any problem If any parameter is being altered after loading a preset e g...

Page 51: ...ation All playback channels 0 dB routed to the same output All outputs 0 dB Level display set to RMS 3 dB View Submix active Note This preset is Default offering the standard functionality of a I O ca...

Page 52: ...he three des tinations Monitor Phones described below The microphone level is adjusted with the channel s input fader Monitor Phones 1 2 3 Use the drop down menu to select the hardware outputs where t...

Page 53: ...ed A right mouse click on the grey name field brings up the dialog box Enter Name Any name can be entered in this dialog Enter Return closes the dialog box the grey label now shows the first letters o...

Page 54: ...e TotalMix also supports combinations of these keys If you press Ctrl and Alt at the same time clicking with the mouse makes the faders jump to 0 dB pairwise and they can be set pairwise by Shift Alt...

Page 55: ...oring is globally de activated Link Faders Selecting this option all faders will be treated as stereo pairs and moved pair wise Hotkey L Level Meter Setup Configuration of the Level Meters Hotkey F2 S...

Page 56: ...atter is a point often overlooked but nonetheless important A RMS measurement shows 3 dB less for sine signals While this is mathematically correct it is not very reasonable for a level meter Therefor...

Page 57: ...ing Black gain field Shows the current gain value as dB Orange gain field This routing is muted To maintain overview when the window size has been reduced the left and upper labels are floating They w...

Page 58: ...you to set up routings which would be nearly impossible to achieve by fiddling around with level and pan Let s say you want to send input 1 to output 1 at 0 dB to output 2 at 3 dB to output 3 at 6 dB...

Page 59: ...1 open the menu Edit It shows Copy In 1 Now select the desired new input for example In 8 The menu now shows Paste In 1 to In 8 Click on it done If you are familiar with this functionality just use Ct...

Page 60: ...put signal to the same output channel and the DAW software which usually activates monitoring in the same way Recording a Software s playback In real world application recording a software s output wi...

Page 61: ...edure is completely identical to the one when using an analog mixing desk There the signal of the singer is sent to an output usually labelled Aux from there to a reverb unit sent back from the reverb...

Page 62: ...surface elements Element Meaning in TotalMix Channel faders 1 8 volume Master fader Main Monitor channel s faders SEL 1 8 DYNAMICS reset fader to Unity Gain V Pots 1 8 pan pressing V Pot knobs pan cen...

Page 63: ...s feature causes heavy overload of the MIDI port when ganging more than 2 faders In such a case or when using the Behringer BCF2000 turn off this option When Full LC Display Support is turned off only...

Page 64: ...42 F 1 Talkback 5E 94 A 5 Monitor Phones 1 3F 63 D 3 Monitor Phones 2 40 64 E 3 Monitor Phones 3 41 65 F 3 Preset 1 36 54 F 2 Preset 2 37 55 G 2 Preset 3 38 56 G 2 Preset 4 39 57 A 2 Preset 5 3A 58 A...

Page 65: ...e Control protocol requires feedback of the received commands back to the hard ware controller So usually TotalMix will be set up with both a MIDI input and MIDI output Un fortunately any small error...

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Page 68: ...DSP Lists all changes of the driver updates DIGICheck Analysis tests and measurements with RME audio hardware A description of DIGICheck including technical background information ADI 8 Inside Technic...

Page 69: ...ced to input signal 3 ns Word Clock BNC not terminated 10 kOhm Automatic Double Speed detection and internal conversion to Single Speed Not affected by DC offsets within the network Overvoltage protec...

Page 70: ...clock 28 kHz 103 kHz Internal resolution 24 bit Input PLL ensures zero dropout even at more than 40 ns jitter Bitclock PLL for trouble free varispeed ADAT operation Ground free digital inputs and outp...

Page 71: ...us display will show LOCK immediately but usually the mixing desk s sample rate is generated internally it is Master too and thus slightly higher or lower than the HDSP 9652 s internal sample rate Res...

Page 72: ...hen causes an offset of the newly recorded track of up to 2 ms Buffer Size Latency Windows This option found in the Settings dialog defines the size of the buffers for the audio data used in ASIO and...

Page 73: ...is also known as S MUX abbreviation for Sample Multiplexing in connection with the ADAT format The AES3 specification uses the uncommon term Single channel double sampling frequency mode Not before Fe...

Page 74: ...e in principle because the audio information is stored in the same place in the data stream However there are blocks of additional information which are different for both standards In the table the m...

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