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11. CONDENSATE 

DRAIN

11.1 

Where a new or replacement boiler is being installed, access to an 
internal “gravity discharge” termination should be one of the main 
factors considered when determining potential boiler locations, the 
condensate drainage pipe should be terminated as recommended.

11.2 

Internal condensate drainage pipework must be a minimum of 
19mm ID (typically 22mm OD) plastic pipe and this should “fall” 
at least 45mm per metre away from the boiler, taking the shortest 
practicable route to the termination point.

11.3 

In order to minimise the risk of freezing during prolonged very cold 
spells, the condensate drainage pipe should be terminated at a 
suitable internal foul water discharge point using either:-

a.   an internal soil and vent stack
b.  an internal kitchen or bathroom waste pipe, washing machine 

waste pipe etc. A suitable permanent connection to the foul 
waste pipe should be used. Figures 18 to 20 show appropriate 
connection methods.

11.4 

USE OF A CONDENSATE PUMP (TO AN INTERNAL 
TERMINATION)

Condensate can be removed using a proprietary 

condensate pump, of a specification recommended by the boiler or 
pump manufacturer.

11.5 EXTERNAL 

TERMINATION

The use of an externally-run condensate 

drainage pipe, terminating at a suitable foul water discharge point 
or purpose-designed soakaway, may be also be considered; 
however if this termination method is chosen then the following 
measures should be adopted - The pipe should be run internally 
as far as possible before going externally and the pipe diameter 
should be increased to a minimum of 30mm ID (typically 32mm 
OD) before it passes through the wall. The external run should be 
kept as short as possible, taking the most direct and “most vertical” 
route possible to the discharge point, with no horizontal sections 
in which condensate might collect. The external pipe should be 
insulated using suitable waterproof and weatherproof insulation 
(“Class O” pipe insulation is suitable for this purpose) .

11.6 

The use of fittings, elbows etc should be kept to a minimum and 
any internal “burrs” on cut pipework should be removed so that the 
internal pipe section is as smooth as possible.

11.7 

The customer/householder should be advised that even with the 
above measures this type of installation could freeze, and that if this 
were to occur then boiler shutdown could result, requiring remedial 
action - possibly involving a chargeable engineer call-out.

11.8 

Where there are likely to be extremes of temperature or wind-chill, the 
use of a proprietary trace-heating system for external condensate 
drainage pipework, incorporating an external frost thermostat, 
should therefore be considered. If such a system is used then the 
installation instructions of the trace heating manufacturer and any 
specific recommendations regarding pipe diameter, insulation, 
etc. should be followed. All other relevant guidance on condensate 
drainage pipe installation should also be followed.

11.9 

If an external soil/vent stack is used as the external termination then 
the connection method shown in Figure x should be used, together 
with the measures on insulation etc. as described above and shown 
in the diagram.

11.10 

Where the condensate drain pipe terminates in a purpose-designed 
soakaway (see BS 6798 or boiler installation manual for soakaway 
design requirements) any above-ground section of condensate 
drainage pipe should be run and insulated as described above. 
Figure 7 shows a suitable connection method. (see Figure 20).

11.11 UNHEATED 

INTERNAL 

AREAS:

 

Internal condensate drainage 

pipes run in unheated areas such as lofts, basements and garages 
should be treated as external pipe.

DRAIN

OUTSIDE
GROUND

LEVEL

25mm

75mm

100mm

MINIMUM INTERNAL

DIAMETER 19mm

VISIBLE

AIR BREAK

WATER &

WEATHERPROOF

INSULATION

SINK, BASIN, BATH

OR SHOWER

MINIMUM

INTERNAL

DIAMETER

30mm

PIPE SIZE

TRANSITION

75mm TRAP

NOTE:-

Visible air break and trap

not required if there is a trap

with a  minimum condensate 

seal of 75 mm incorporated

into the boiler. In this case the

100 mm is measured to the

trap in the boiler.

NOTE:-

Open end of condensate drainage pipe direct

into gully 25 mm min below grating but above

water level; end cut at 45 °

OUTSIDE
GROUND

LEVEL

75mm

100mm

MINIMUM INTERNAL

DIAMETER 30mm

PIPE SIZE

TRANSITION

SINK, BASIN, BATH OR
SHOWER WASTE TRAP

NOTE:-

Open end of condensate drainage pipe direct
into gully 25 mm min below grating but above

water level; end cut at 45 °

DRAIN

25mm

WATER &

WEATHERPROOF

INSULATION

VISIBLE AIR BREAK

AT PLUG HOLE

MINIMUM INTERNAL

DIAMETER 19mm

MINIMUM

INTERNAL

DIAMETER 19mm

MINIMUM TRAP

VISIBLE

AIR BREAK

WATER &

WEATHERPROOF

INSULATION

MINIMUM INTERNAL

DIAMETER 30mm

PIPE SIZE

TRANSITION

NOTE:-

Visible air break and trap not

required if there is a trap with

a minimum condensate seal

of 38mm incorporated into

the boiler

NOTE:-

Open end of condensate drainage

pipe direct into gully 25 mm min

below grating but above

water level; end cut at 45°

DRAIN

OUTSIDE
GROUND

LEVEL

25mm

38mm

CONDENSE

DISCHARGE

PIPE FROM

BOILER

û

25mm

û

300mm

û

500mm

PIPE SIZE

TRANSITION

NOTE:-

Ground (this section of

the condensate drainage

pipe may be run either

above or below ground

level; End cut at 45°.

Hole depth

400mm minimum

By 300mm

Diameter

BOTTOM OF

TUBE SEALED

DIAMETER

100mm MINIMUM

PLASTIC TUBE

WATER &

WEATHERPROOF

INSULATION

EXTERNAL
WALL

GROUND LEVEL

LIMESTONE

CHIPPINGS

Two rows of three

12mm holes at 25mm centres,

50mm from bottom of tube

And facing away from house

MINIMUM

INTERNAL

DIAMETER 30mm

FIGURE 17.   DOWNSTREAM CONNECTION

FOR SINK, BASIN, BATH OR SHOWER TRAP

FIGURE 18.  UPSTREAM CONNECTION

FOR SINK, BASIN, BATH OR SHOWER TRAP

FIGURE 19.

DRAIN, GULLY OR RAINWATER

FIGURE 20.

PURPOSE DESIGNED SOAKAWAY

Summary of Contents for 30C

Page 1: ...AT E R V E N T I L AT I O N INSTALLATION COMMISSIONING SERVICING INSTRUCTIONS QUANTEC COMBIErP High Efficiency Combination Boiler QuanTec 30C ErP G C No 47 416 12 QuanTec 24C ErP G C No 47 416 13 The...

Page 2: ...l Burner Assembly Removal Heat Exchanger Condensate Trap 18 Parts Replacements 30 Part Replacements without Draining the System Draining the Appliance System 19 Fault Finding Flowcharts Blocking Codes...

Page 3: ...C until DHW is drawn off The full output from the boiler is then directed via the diverter valve to the plate heat exchanger to supply a nominal DHW draw off on the 30C is 12 31l min and the 24C 10 1l...

Page 4: ...ng of water based heating systems BS 5546 Installation of gas hot water supplies for domestic purposes 2nd Family Gases BS 6798 Installation of gas fired hot water boilers of rated input not exceeding...

Page 5: ...4 4 1 Ensure the mains supply voltage frequency number of phases and power rating comply with details on the rating label 4 4 2 All wiring must be in accordance with the appropriate standards The equ...

Page 6: ...ed heat output and low temperature regime 1 98 9 99 1 AUXILLARY ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION At full load elmax 0 068 kW At part load elmin 0 048 kW In standby mode PSB 0 002 kW OTHER ITEMS Standby heat lo...

Page 7: ...73lts Electrical supply 230V 50Hz Electrical rating 100W External fuse rating 3A Expansion vessel capacity 8 litres Expansion vessel initial charge pressure 1 0 bar Heating system minimum pressure 0...

Page 8: ...her materials may be used IMPORTANT Any external runs must be in accordance with BS 6798 The drain outlet on the boiler is sized for standard 21 5mm overflow pipe 24C 30C TABLE 3 PERFORMANCE DATA MAXI...

Page 9: ...ctrical installations and I S 813 6 2 4 TIMBER FRAME BUILDINGS When installed in a timber frame building guidance should be taken from the gas industry publication IGE UP 7 Guide for Gas Installations...

Page 10: ...321 123 212 183 780 321mm FIGURE 4 QUANTEC COMBI DIMENSIONS FIGURE 5 FLUE CLEARANCES KITCHEN LAYOUT TOP VIEW TABLE 3 EXPANSION VESSEL REQUIREMENTS Vessel charge and initial system pressure bar bar 0...

Page 11: ...supply to the CH system This is used to fill the CH system on installation and whenever the water pressure has been removed for system modifications etc The filling loop complies with the water suppl...

Page 12: ...ATE TO PLATE HEAT EXCHANGER DIVERTER VALVE FILLING LOOP FLOW THERMISTOR RETURN THERMISTOR DHW FLOW RESTRICTOR DHW COLD INLET FILTER DRAIN TAP DHW THERMISTOR PUMP AUTOMATIC AIR VENT LOW PRESSURE SWITCH...

Page 13: ...4 screws provided 9 2 3 Lift the appliance onto the fixing bracket and lower into position FIGURE 8 FIXING BRACKET INSTRUCTIONS www joh nsonand starley c o uk sustainable solutions under one roof H E...

Page 14: ...egulations 1998 and the Building Regulations If no specific instructions are given reference should be made to the relevant codes of practice THESE RELEVANT STANDARDS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BS 5440 1 Flue...

Page 15: ...eaves 200mm F Below balconies 200mm G From a vertical drain pipe or soil pipe 150mm H From an internal or external corner Greater than 450mm protrusion 300mm H From an internal or external corner Grea...

Page 16: ...le from Johnson Starley The distance between the guard and the nearest part of the terminal must not be less than 50 mm 10 7 6 The flue MUST NOT be installed under a car port 10 8 PLUME TERMINAL OUTLE...

Page 17: ...ical 1000 0020740 16 Plume Management Kit Black 1 Horizontal Vertical 1000 0020730 17 1000mm Extension Flue 60mm Black 1 Horizontal Vertical 1000 0020740 18 90 Elbow 60mm Black 1 Horizontal Vertical 1...

Page 18: ...l template Label Ref 1000 2217950 3 500mm Pitched Roof Weather Collar 500mm 1140mm Flat Roof Weather Collar 20 to 50 Ridge Terminal Ridge Terminal Clamps Flue Extensions Vertical Appliance Adaptor Adj...

Page 19: ...in between the locating pips on the end of the terminal 2 NO OUTSIDE ACCESS 2 1 If no access is available from outside the building drill a 125mm diameter hole 2 2 Mount the wall bracket and the boil...

Page 20: ...e trace heating manufacturer and any specific recommendations regarding pipe diameter insulation etc should be followed All other relevant guidance on condensate drainage pipe installation should also...

Page 21: ...vided in hardware pack 12 4 5 Connect wires to terminal block 12 4 6 Swing the control box back up into the operating condition and re fit the front panel ensuring a good seal is made 12 5 THERMOSTATS...

Page 22: ...www johnsonandstarley co uk 22 13 WIRING DIAGRAM FIGURE 22 WIRING DIAGRAM COLOUR Red RD Brown BN White WH Grey GY Yellow YE Pink PK Black BK Violet VT Orange OG Green Yellow GNYE Blue BU...

Page 23: ...bar When reached closed the isolation valves 14 5 5 Disconnect the left hand filling loop retain the top hat washer and using the blanking caps cap off the connection and the end of the filling loop...

Page 24: ...LY PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE DRAIN FLEXIBLE FILLING LOOP FILTER WASHER DHW INLET CH RETURN CH DRAIN POINT ITEM DESCRIPTION ITEM DESCRIPTION A CH Central heating flow Black handle E CH Central heating retu...

Page 25: ...ed 15 6 4 Reset the boiler see paragraph 15 3 The boiler will repeat its ignition sequence If reset occurs 5 times within 15 minutes then F 15 will be shown If power is removed this will be reset 15 6...

Page 26: ...icity supplies to the boiler and drain down to complete the flushing process NOTE A flushing solution should be used during the flushing procedure Flushing solutions Fernox Superfloc Sentinel X300 new...

Page 27: ...mmissioning please complete the Commissioning Checklist before handover to the customer For IE it is necessary to complete a Declaration of Conformity to indicate compliance to I S 813 IMPORTANT 16 11...

Page 28: ...6 3 Remove the second electrical cable from the rear of the fan 17 6 4 Replace with new and refit by aligning the grooves on the side of the fan and slot back into place 17 5 5 Refit in reverse order...

Page 29: ...er 17 9 CONDENSATE TRAP Refer to paragraph 17 5 17 9 1 Unscrew the 2 pipes and pull off the third pipe 17 9 2 Remove the trap and clean by removing the cleaning plug Flush out any deposits with clean...

Page 30: ...urner 19 3 7 Refit in reverse order 19 3 8 Check the operation of the boiler See Section 15 18 4 FLOW RETURN THERMISTOR SENSORS 19 4 1 Refer to paragraph 17 5 19 4 2 Unclip the thermistor sensor from...

Page 31: ...e order 18 10 7 Check operation of the boiler See Section 15 DRAINING THE APPLIANCE 18 11 CENTRAL HEATING CIRCUIT 18 11 1 Refer to paragraph 17 5 See Figure 25 18 11 2 Close all the CH water isolating...

Page 32: ...18 17 DHW PLATE HEAT EXCHANGER 18 17 1 Refer to paragraph 17 5 See Figure 47 18 17 2 Drain the boiler See paragraph 18 11 and 18 12 18 17 3 Remove the fan See paragraph 17 6 18 17 4 Remove 2 allen scr...

Page 33: ...nsor 18 20 4 Replace and refit in reverse order 18 20 5 Check operation of the boiler See Section 15 18 21 EXPANSION VESSEL RECHARGING 18 21 1 Refer to paragraph 17 5 18 21 2 Relieve system pressure t...

Page 34: ...ng and integrity of the internal boiler wiring is working OK Check condition of the Flame Sensor Electrode and replace if necessary Is approx 24 VDC supply available at the gas valve Check that the pu...

Page 35: ...ation valves check as supply then reset boiler Check and replace wiring as necessary Replace the Flow Return Sensor Secure Sensors and reset Replace Sensor Check pump is rotating Remove the return the...

Page 36: ...to 9 way connector on PCB X5 Replace PCB NO NO NO Fill and vent the system and open all isolation valves check as supply then reset boiler Replace the flue thermistor Secure to PCB Is the boiler CH s...

Page 37: ...Is the water system pressure under 2 8bar Is the wiring securely connected to sensor Is the boiler a system type with heat recovery Does the resistance of the flow and return sensors correspond to a...

Page 38: ...Are the timer and room thermostat switched on Is there 24V at A see diagram YES NO YES NO NO YES YES YES YES YES Is the hot cold pipework crossed Replace the PCB Is the wiring connected between PCB D...

Page 39: ...37 8 Venturi Gasket 1 1000 1508630 J21 243 9 M5 Screws 4 1000 3003330 J21 244 10 M5 Nuts 4 1000 3003820 J21 238 11 Ignition Detection Electrode 1 1000 0711785 J21 229 12 Electrode Gasket 1 1000 250127...

Page 40: ...J21 268 28 15mm O Ring 1 29 Clip 1 30 Pressure Sensor Harness 1 1000 0526945 J21 278 31 DHW Temperature Sensor 1 1000 0302195 J21 267 32 Flow Return Temperature Sensor 1 1000 0526515 J21 700 33 Flue S...

Page 41: ...working order Highlight to the customer any remedial or improvement work identi ed during the course of commissioning or servicing work Refer to the manufacturer s helpline where assistance is needed...

Page 42: ...uired Thermostatic radiator valves Fitted Not required Automatic bypass to system Fitted Not required Boiler interlock Provided ALL SYSTEMS s instructions Yes What system cleaner was used What inhibit...

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