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7 Valve Replacement

 

 

Important!

  Do  not  attempt  to  change  the  805 

output valves without reading these notes. Failure to 
do so could be both dangerous to you and damaging 
to the amplifier. Keep these notes handy. 
USE ONLY 805 WITHOUT TOP CAP. 

 

6SN7 Pull gently but firmly to remove. 

Take care that 

you  orient  the  valve  correctly  before  inserting.  Line  up 
the centre “Spigot” first. They are easy to break. 

2A3  Pull  gently  but  firmly  to  remove. 

Has  4  pins  two 

are  larger  than  the  other.  Please  note  the  positioning 
before insertion.

 

805 Twist anti-clockwise 45 degrees to remove. 

Insert 

by  locating  pin  in  slot  and  rotating  clockwise  about  45 
degrees.  

 

Health & safety; High voltages are present inside the 
amplifier and on exposed valve sockets when valves 
are  removed,  so  take  suitable  care.  It  is  not 
necessary  to  remove  the  bottom  cover.  Beware 
valves get hot in operation! 

 

How do I know when to replace valves? 

 

Generally speaking valve failure may be one of these: 

1, The valve continues to work but the emission gets 
low.

  In  the  case  of  output  valves  this  will  result  in  not 

being able to set the bias properly. 

2, The valve gets noisy/microphonic.

 Usually happens 

to the  small  valves,  can  be  confirmed  by  tapping  with  a 
pen, and swapping a valve from the same position in the 
other amplifier. 

3, Heater fails.

 No glow in centre of valve. Valve is cold. 

A valve that is lit up is not a guarantee that it is working 
properly;  conversely  a  valve  that  is  not  lit  up  will  not  be 
working at all. 

4,  Dramatic  Failure.

  Occasionally  the  demise  of  a 

power  valve  may  be  obvious  with  internal  sparks  and 
noise through the speakers. In that case, switch  off  and 
do  not  use  until  a  replacement  is  available.  Before  use 
see  chapter 

6  “Bias  Adjustment”.  If  there  was  any 

associated  burning  smell  etc,  we  would  recommend  a 
qualified person examines the inside of the amplifier first. 

 

If the amplifier sounds OK the valves are probably fine. If 
the  emission  drops  you  will  have  difficulty  setting  the 
bias for the output valves.  

 

Valve life

 will depend upon such things as hours of use 

and  number  of  on/off  cycles.  It  is  not  good  practice  to 
switch  the  amplifier  on  and  off  unnecessarily,  or  by 
removing the valves unnecessarily as this can strain the 
pins and cause tiny air leaks.  

 

5, Changing valves:

  

Before changing the 805 valves ensure that it safe to do 
so by switching off and removing the mains plug at least 
20  minutes  beforehand.  This  will  enable  dangerous 
voltages to dissipate, and the valves to cool down. 

If  possible  check  the  bias  setting  before  you  attempt  to 
change  the  valve(s),  in  order  to  familiarise  yourself  with 
the procedure.  
If  changing  both  805s,  be  ready  to  adjust  the  bias  in 
order not to overload the power supply. 

Don’t worry how 

low the reading goes this will not cause damage. Do 
final  adjustment  when  the  amplifier  is  fully  warmed 
up. 
If  all  is  well  there  should  be  no  more  than  a  barely 
detectable  hum  from  the  speakers,  and  the  amplifier 
should  sound  OK  when  tested.  Note  that  only  805 
valves  are  compatible  with  the  amplifier,  845,  211 
and  similar  looking  valves  will  damage  the  amplifier, 
and will be dangerous. 

 

6,

  If  you  cannot  set  up  400mv,  then  the  valve  is 

probably  faulty  or  is  unsuitable.  (If  reading  zero  the 
HT fuse may have blown). 
If  the  valves  are  brand  new,  you  will  need  to  check 
again  after  approximately  10  &  100  hours,  after  that 
only occasionally or if you suspect a problem.  

 

7,  To  avoid  damage  to  the  amplifier  and  electric 
shock  hazard  you  must  use  only  valves  marked 
805,  2A3,  6SN7  or  equivalent. 

Use  only  valves 

which you know to be new or good condition and test 
the amplifier thoroughly before resuming normal use.  

 

8, Replacing the small valves: 
The  2A3 

will  require  bias  adjustment  as  it  controls 

the  805

.  The  6SN7s 

do  not  require  any  set  up 

procedure. 

It’s just ‘plug and play’. 

 

Icon  Audio  is  happy  to  check  the  valves/amp  or  re-
bias your amp free of charge. 
 

8 Specification & Features 

(Typical conditions @ 240v 50Hz) 

 

805 Triode output valves 

 

2A3 Triode driver valve 

 

4x 6SN7 double triodes for first stages (CV181) 

 

Hand wired point to point components 

 

Ceramic valve bases for low noise/leakage 

 

40w RMS at clipping 1kH 

 

Signal to noise level -95db  

 

Freq response 20Hz-20kHz - 1dB 

 

Power bandwidth -3db=10Hz-30kHz 

 

0.3% THD typical 8w (0.1% 1w) 1khz 

 

Custom hand wound transformers using grain 
oriented steel 

 

Supplied with attractive valve cover 

 

Minimal feedback used 

 

Audiophile oversized metal film resistors 

 

Audiophile  High  quality  polypropylene  or  Jensen 
audio capacitors (optional upgrade) 

 

Internal audio cable using silver plated PTFE 

 

Valves carefully matched for best performance 

 

Gold plated Input & speaker terminals  

 

400 mv sensitivity for full output (High) 

 

1v sensitivity for full output (Low) 

 

5 amp T mains rear fuse (with spare) 

 

250ma F 805 ceramic anode fuses (with spares) 

 

W: 24cm. D: 57cm. H: 28cm. Weight:35kg  

 

230-240v AC 50-60 Hz (or 117v for US) 

 

IEC mains lead, (5amp fused) 

 

CE certified. ROHS & WEEE compliant 

Specification subject to change without notice. 

 

Summary of Contents for MB 805 SE

Page 1: ...ve 805 has to do all the work of both the up and down parts of the waveform In order to go down the valve must be running at 100 of its maximum power unlike push pull amplifiers where the idle current...

Page 2: ...mplifier finish Internal wiring check Check Triode mode N A Run min 6 hour test Check input Output Valve Bias level v Sound Quality Channel Balance Valve Microphony Valve Seating Hum level L R mv RF T...

Page 3: ...t rear Page 3 MB805 Layout and Features If you are inserting the MB 805 valve for the first time it may be helpful to observe the slot in the valve base to indicate the degree of rotation needed to fi...

Page 4: ...tral terminal and Green Yellow to Earth terminal 6 SWITCH ON The blue mains indicator should light up The 805s will glow bright yellow You will likely hear a humming noise for a few seconds this is no...

Page 5: ...and play some music with plenty of bass e g dance music preferably in mono FM tuners are usually switchable to mono and stand the speakers close together If correct you should hear plenty of bass if...

Page 6: ...valve This could be due a faulty 805 or one of the 805 internal fuses blowing A symptom of this would be no bias voltage at the test point Also the valve would not be as hot as normal Refer to an engi...

Page 7: ...s ground by unscrewing the 0 speaker terminal and tightening the probe in the exposed hole And the red probe in the test socket adjacent to the valve on test Set the Icon meter to 2000mv or the black...

Page 8: ...the mains plug at least 20 minutes beforehand This will enable dangerous voltages to dissipate and the valves to cool down If possible check the bias setting before you attempt to change the valve s i...

Page 9: ...e It is not guaranteed for commercial Public Address use or use in other situations The guarantee becomes void if the unit has been modified in any way not approved by Icon Audio Please contact us 10...

Page 10: ...or variable transformer will be useful to operate the amplifier on reduced power in order the trace the fault or overload Make sure the bias for the 805s is correct If the AC fuse is blowing with the...

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