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Natural Sound AV Receiver

Récepteur audiovisuel “Son Naturel”

RX-V793

Thank you for selecting this YAMAHA AV receiver.
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Содержание RX-V793

Страница 1: ...ODE D EMPLOI Natural Sound AV Receiver Récepteur audiovisuel Son Naturel RX V793 Thank you for selecting this YAMAHA AV receiver Nous vous remercions d avoir porté votre choix sur ce récepteur audiovisuel YAMAHA U C A ...

Страница 2: ...e receptacles and the point where they exit from the unit 12 Cleaning The unit should be cleaned only as recommended by the manufacturer 13 Nonuse Periods The power cord of the unit should be unplugged from the outlet when left unused for a long period of time 14 Object and Liquid Entry Care should be taken so that objects do not fall into and liquids are not spilled into the inside of the unit 15...

Страница 3: ...ith the requirements listed in FCC Regulations Part 15 for Class B digital devices Compliance with these requirements provides a reasonable level of assurance that your use of this product in a residential environment will not result in harmful interference with other electronic devices This equipment generates uses radio frequencies and if not installed and used according to the instructions foun...

Страница 4: ... BEFORE USING THIS UNIT 22 ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SET MENU MODE 26 BASIC OPERATIONS 28 TUNING OPERATIONS 32 PRESET TUNING 33 USING DIGITAL SOUND FIELD PROCESSOR DSP 36 BRIEF OVERVIEW OF DIGITAL SOUND FIELD PROGRAMS 40 SETTING THE SLEEP TIMER 42 REMOTE CONTROL TRANSMITTER 43 TROUBLESHOOTING 53 SPECIFICATIONS 55 Indoor FM Antenna AM Loop Antenna Antenna adapter U S A and Canada models only Batteries siz...

Страница 5: ...nology CINEMA DSP Automatic Input Balance Control for Dolby Pro Logic Surround Test Tone Generator for Easier Speaker Balance Adjustment 3 Center Channel Modes NORMAL WIDE PHANTOM BASS EXTENSION Switch for Reinforcing Bass Response 40 Station Random Access Preset Tuning Automatic Preset Tuning Preset Station Shifting Capability Preset Editing IF Count Direct PLL Synthesizer Tuning System Video Sig...

Страница 6: ...C outlet on the rear panel if that equipment requires more power than the outlet is rated to provide 13 Voltage Selector China and General Models only The voltage selector on the rear panel of this unit must be set for your local main voltage BEFORE plugging into the AC main supply Voltages are 110 120 220 240 V AC 50 60 Hz This unit is not disconnected from the AC power source as long as it is co...

Страница 7: ...ome in contact with clothing etc Clean the battery compartment thoroughly before installing new batteries After you change batteries make sure to press the RESET button inside the battery compartment Remote control transmitter operation range Notes There should be no large obstacles between the remote control transmitter and the main unit If the remote control sensor is directly illuminated by str...

Страница 8: ...e center channel allows listeners seated in even less than ideal positions to hear the dialog originating from the action on the screen while experiencing good stereo imaging Dolby Surround is encoded on the sound track of pre recorded video tapes laser discs and some TV cable broadcasts When you play a source encoded with Dolby Surround on this unit the Dolby Pro Logic Surround decoder decodes th...

Страница 9: ...istening conditions Output of low bass from any channel can be assigned to either the MAIN SPEAKERS terminals or SUBWOOFER terminal to maximize system performance Output of LFE can be assigned to either the MAIN SPEAKERS terminals or SUBWOOFER terminal to maximize system performance Dolby Pro Logic 2 Digital Sound Fields Digital sound fields are created on the presence side and the rear surround s...

Страница 10: ...ue Surround sound Dialogue Surround sound Rear L Rear R Main L Main R Main L Main R This unit is designed to provide the best sound field quality with a 5 speaker configuration using main speakers rear speakers and a center speaker The main speakers are used for the main source sound plus the effect sounds They will probably be the speakers from your present stereo system The rear speakers are use...

Страница 11: ...our listening position facing slightly inward Nearly 1 8 m approx 6 feet up from the floor Center Precisely between the main speakers To avoid interference with TV sets use a magnetically shielded speaker Subwoofer The position of the subwoofer is not so critical because low bass tones are not highly directional Main speaker Center speaker Rear speaker Subwoofer ...

Страница 12: ...GNAL S VIDEO SIGNAL MONITOR OUT IN OUT VCR MAIN CENTER REAR SURROUND OUTPUT SUB WOOFER ON SCREEN SELECTOR S VIDEO VIDEO SWITCHED I20V 60Hz I00W MAX TOTAL AC OUTLETS REMOTE CONTROL IN OUT COAXIAL DVD LD OPTICAL DVD LD TV DBS PCM DIGITAL IN AC 3 DIGITAL IN PHONO CD TAPE MD DVD LD TV DBS VCR TAPE PB REC OUT IN OUT AUDIO SIGNAL 1 3 4 I0dB 0dB MAIN LEVEL IMPEDANCE SELECTOR 6ΩMIN SPEAKER SINGLE 6ΩMIN SP...

Страница 13: ...minals are used to connect any video input source such as a camcorder to this unit S VIDEO L R VIDEO VIDEO AUX S VIDEO VIDEO L AUDIO R VIDEO OUT S VIDEO OUT AUDIO OUT L AUDIO OUT R 1 2 For Custom Installer For U S A Canada and Australia models only REMOTE CONTROL IN OUT terminals These terminals are used for custom installation system When this unit is connected to the components for custom instal...

Страница 14: ...r VCR connected to this unit You can switch the selection of input signals between digital and analog easily See page 29 for details Notes When connecting an audio video unit to both of the digital and analog terminals of this unit make sure to connect to both terminals of the same name Be sure to attach the covers when the OPTICAL terminals are not being used in order to protect the terminals fro...

Страница 15: ...multaneously because signals input to the OPTICAL terminal take priority of signals input to the COAXIAL terminal See page 29 for details about switching the input mode FM ANT AM ANT GND 75Ω UNBAL GND MONITOR OUT DVD LD TV DBS IN OUT VCR VIDEO SIGNAL S VIDEO SIGNAL MONITOR OUT IN OUT VCR ON SCREEN SELECTOR S VIDEO VIDEO REMOTE CONTROL IN OUT COAXIAL DVD LD OPTICAL DVD LD TV DBS PCM DIGITAL IN AC 3...

Страница 16: ...mposed over the video image If there is no program material on the monitor the information will be displayed over a monochromatic background By using the ON SCREEN SELECTOR S VIDEO VIDEO switch select the video monitor connected to the S VIDEO SIGNAL MONITOR OUT terminal or composite VIDEO SIGNAL MONITOR OUT terminal on which you want to display the screen display information ON SCREEN SELECTOR S ...

Страница 17: ...y one speaker system connect it to either the SPEAKERS A or B terminals Note on a subwoofer connection You may wish to add a subwoofer to reinforce low frequencies or to output low bass sound from the subwoofer channel when reproducing discrete signals Connect the SUBWOOFER OUTPUT terminal of this unit to the INPUT terminal of the subwoofer amplifier and connect the speaker terminals of the subwoo...

Страница 18: ...wires Release the tab and secure the wire 1 2 3 How to Connect Connect the SPEAKERS terminals to your speakers with wire of the proper gauge cut as short as possible If the connections are faulty no sound will be heard from the speakers Make sure that the polarity of the speaker wires is correct that is the and markings are observed If these wires are reversed the sound will be unnatural and lack ...

Страница 19: ... the front panel or MASTER VOLUME keys on the remote control transmitter n OUTPUT terminals for driving speakers with external amplifiers Be sure to switch this only when the power to this unit is not on Select the position whose requirements your speaker system meets WARNING Do not change the IMPEDANCE SELECTOR switch setting while the power to this unit is on otherwise this unit may be damaged I...

Страница 20: ... connected even if an outdoor AM antenna is connected to this unit GND terminal For maximum safety and minimum interference connect the GND terminal to a good earth ground A good earth ground is a metal stake driven into moist earth Notes When connecting the indoor FM antenna insert its connector into the FM ANT terminal firmly If you need an outdoor FM antenna to improve FM reception quality eith...

Страница 21: ...ransmitter 2 Remote control sensor Receives signals from the remote control transmitter 3 Display panel Shows various information For details refer to page 21 4 Input selector buttons Select a program source to listen to or watch When a button is pressed the name of selected source appears on the display 5 DSP program selector buttons Select a DSP program When a button is pressed the name of selec...

Страница 22: ...ion into the memory When this button is pressed and held for more than 3 seconds the automatic preset tuning begins For details refer to page 34 H EDIT button This button is used to exchange the places of two preset stations with each other I TUNING DOWN UP button Used for tuning Press the UP side to tune in to higher frequencies and press the DOWN side to tune in to lower frequencies J TUNING MOD...

Страница 23: ...ng the TAPE MD MONITOR button 5 STEREO indicator Lights up when an FM stereo broadcast with sufficient signal strength is received 6 Signal level meter Indicates the signal level of the received station If multipath interference is detected the indication decreases 7 DIGITAL DSP and PRO LOGIC indicators DIGITAL lights up when the built in Dolby Digital AC 3 Decoder is on and the signals of selecte...

Страница 24: ...om the SUBWOOFER OUTPUT terminal if the SWFR or BOTH position is selected on 7 LFE BASS OUT LARGE Select this position if your main speakers have a high ability for bass reproduction In this position full range signals present at the main channels are output from the main speakers 7 LFE BASS OUT Choices MAIN SWFR BOTH Preset position SWFR MAIN Select this position if your system does not include a...

Страница 25: ... Remote control Front panel or Remote control STANDBY ON DELAY CENTER REAR SWFR SET MENU DELAY CENTER REAR SWFR SET MENU TIME LEVEL SET MENU NORMAL WIDE PHANTOM AUTO NORMAL WIDE PHANTOM AUTO DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER TV SPORTS STADIUM STANDBY ON NATURAL SOUND AV RECEIVER SPEAKERS PHONES A ON OFF ON OFF B BASS TREBLE BALANCE VIDEO AUX S VIDEO VIDEO L AUDIO R VOLUME 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 ...

Страница 26: ...l 0 l 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 BALANCE 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 L R l6 20 28 40 60 l2 8 4 2 0 dB VOLUME STANDBY ON 1 2 3 DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER TV SPORTS STADIUM STANDBY ON NATURAL SOUND AV RECEIVER SPEAKERS PHONES A ON OFF ON OFF B BASS TREBLE BALANCE VIDEO AUX S VIDEO VIDEO L AUDIO R VOLUME 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 L R l6 20 28 40 60 l2 8 4 2 0 dB BASS EXTENS...

Страница 27: ...R SUR to adjust the output level of the right rear speaker and select L SUR to adjust the output level of the left rear speaker b Adjust its level Pressing the side raises and the side lowers the level While adjusting the test tone is fixed on the selected speaker 11 Cancel the test tone Notes Once you have completed these adjustments you can adjust whole sound level on your audio system by using ...

Страница 28: ... control Front panel or Remote control DELAY CENTER REAR SWFR SET MENU DELAY CENTER REAR SWFR SET MENU TIME LEVEL SET MENU METHOD OF SETTING CHANGE AND ADJUSTMENT The following eight types of functions maximize the performance of your system and expand your enjoyment for audio listening and video watching DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER TV SPORTS STADIUM STANDBY ON NATURAL SOUND AV RECEIV...

Страница 29: ...eater However in a level suitable for listening to in your room the low level parts of source sound cannot be heard well because they will be lost among noises in your environment Dolby Digital AC 3 technology also made it possible to reduce an original sound track s dynamic range for a home audio format by compressing the data of sound In this position a source encoded with the Dolby Digital AC 3...

Страница 30: ...OLUME 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 L R l6 20 28 40 60 l2 8 4 2 0 dB BASS EXTENSION TONE BYPASS CINEMA DSP 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 DELAY CENTER REAR SWFR FM AM MAN L AUTO FM TUNING MODE AUTO MAN L MONO SET MENU DISCO CONCERT HALL ROCK CONCERT EFFECT CHURCH JAZZ CLUB DOWN TUNING UP MEMORY EDIT VCR DVD LD TV DBS TAPE MD MONITOR VIDEO AUX TUNER CD PHONO A B C D E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 3 4 3 4 7...

Страница 31: ...only for sources connected to the DVD LD and TV DBS input terminals on the rear of this unit that input two or three types of signals to this unit The following two input modes are provided AUTO For the source connected to the DVD LD input terminals This mode is automatically selected when you turn on the power to this unit In this mode input signal is automatically selected by the following order...

Страница 32: ... uses scramble or encoded signals to prevent it from being dubbed there may be a case that display information superimposed on the picture and or the picture itself is disturbed due to those signals TO RECORD A SOURCE TO TAPE OR MD 2 DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER TV SPORTS STADIUM STANDBY ON NATURAL SOUND AV RECEIVER SPEAKERS PHONES A ON OFF ON OFF B BASS TREBLE BALANCE VIDEO AUX S VIDE...

Страница 33: ...crease or counter clockwise to decrease the high frequency response Note These controls are effective only for the sound from the main speakers Using the BASS EXTENSION switch You can boost bass frequency response by setting this switch to the ON position This switch is effective only on the sound from the main speakers Using the TONE BYPASS switch Press this switch inward ON if you want to listen...

Страница 34: ...on you want to select are weak you must tune to it manually MANUAL TUNING Note If you tune to an FM station manually it is received in monaural mode automatically to increase the signal quality AUTOMATIC TUNING MANUAL TUNING FM AM TUNING MODE AUTO MAN L MONO TUNING MODE AUTO MAN L MONO DOWN TUNING UP DOWN TUNING UP AUTO TUNING Turn the AUTO TUNING indicator off FM AM or 1 DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCE...

Страница 35: ...any desired station by only selecting the preset station number where it is stored Up to 40 stations 8 stations x 5 groups can be stored PRESET TUNING To store stations To recall a preset station 2 1 1 3 4 2 2 MAN L AUTO FM MEMORY MEMORY A B C D E PRESET A B C D E Flashes on and off for about 5 seconds PRESET MHz FM STEREO 0 20 l00 ROOM 2 CONTROL 40 60 SPEAKERS AUTO TUNING A SPEAKERS B ROOM 2 Show...

Страница 36: ...set station by another FM or AM station manually by simply following the procedure of the section To store stations on page 33 If the number of received stations is not enough to be stored up to E8 the search is finished automatically after searching all frequencies With this function only FM stations with sufficient signal strength are stored automatically If the station you want to program is we...

Страница 37: ...es Flashes EDIT EDIT MEMORY PRESET MEMORY PRESET 2 4 DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER TV SPORTS STADIUM STANDBY ON NATURAL SOUND AV RECEIVER SPEAKERS PHONES A ON OFF ON OFF B BASS TREBLE BALANCE VIDEO AUX S VIDEO VIDEO L AUDIO R VOLUME 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 L R l6 20 28 40 60 l2 8 4 2 0 dB BASS EXTENSION TONE BYPASS CINEMA DSP 5 5 4 3 2 l 0 l 2 3 4 DELAY CENTER REAR S...

Страница 38: ... you prefer to cancel the DSP press the EFFECT button The sound will be the normal 2 channel stereo without surround sound effect When a monaural sound source is played with DOLBY PRO LOGIC or DOLBY PRO LOGIC ENHANCED no sound is heard from the main speakers and the rear speakers Sound is heard only from the center speaker However if the center channel mode is in PHANTOM the main speakers output t...

Страница 39: ...mpare the normal stereo sound with the fully processed effect sound To cancel the effect sound and monitor only the main sound press the EFFECT ON OFF key or the EFFECT button Press the EFFECT ON OFF key or the EFFECT button a second time to restore normal operation Notes If the effect sound is canceled when signals encoded with the Dolby Digital AC 3 are input to this unit signals of all channels...

Страница 40: ...ch to the TIME LEVEL position on the remote control transmitter Note Be sure to use the remote control transmitter with the lid open 1 Press once or more until the name of item on which you will make an adjustment appears on the display panel Whenever pressed the selection changes as the above chart shows Pressing the key on the remote control transmitter changes the selection in the reverse order...

Страница 41: ...ERT HALL Control range ms 15 to 30 0 to 15 15 to 30 0 to 15 15 to 30 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 1 to 50 Speakers CENTER RIGHT SURROUND LEFT SURROUND SUBWOOFER Preset value 0 0 0 0 Control range dB MIN 20 to 10 MIN 20 to 10 MIN 20 to 10 MIN 20 to 0 If desired you can adjust the sound output level of the each speaker even if the output level is already set in SPEAKER BAL...

Страница 42: ...field folds the viewer naturally from the rear to the left and right and toward the screen Note If the main channel sound is considerably altered by overadjustment of the BASS or TREBLE controls the relationship with the rear channels may produce an unnatural effect Ideal for reproducing video discs video tapes and similar sources which are Dolby Surround encoded and bear the DOLBY SURROUND logo T...

Страница 43: ...ROGRAM 4 TV SPORTS When the input signal is analog or PCM audio Speaker output main center rear When the input signal is Dolby Digital Speaker output main center rear 5 STADIUM When the input signal is analog or PCM audio Speaker output main rear When the input signal is Dolby Digital Speaker output main center rear 6 DISCO When the input signal is analog or PCM audio Speaker output main rear When...

Страница 44: ...nsmitter or disconnecting the power plug of this unit from the AC outlet SETTING THE SLEEP TIMER A B C REMOTE CONTROL TRANSMITTER SLEEP A B C REMOTE CONTROL TRANSMITTER SLEEP If you use the SLEEP timer of this unit you can make this unit turn into the standby mode When you are going to sleep while enjoying a broadcast or other desired input source this timer function is helpful Notes The SLEEP tim...

Страница 45: ...For basic operations use the remote control transmitter with the lid open NAMES OF KEYS AND THEIR FUNCTIONS MACRO QUICK OFF SLOW TAPE A B REC PAUSE B A A CD TUNER VCR B DVD LD V AUX PHONO EFFECT ON OFF TV DBS C DIR DISC STOP TRANSMIT LEARN LEARN CLEAR MACRO PRESET A B C D E DIGITAL PRO LOGIC ENHANCED MOVIE THEATER 1 2 3 SPORTS STADIUM DISCO TV 4 5 6 ROCK JAZZ CLUB CHURCH 7 8 9 HALL TIME LEVEL SET ...

Страница 46: ...it on and pressing the STANDBY key turns this unit into the standby mode 9 RESET button This button is inside the battery compartment Press this button to reset the internal microcomputer which controls remote control operations Microcomputer reset is necessary when the remote control freezes Pressing the RESET button will not erase learned functions 0 MASTER VOLUME up and down keys Turns the volu...

Страница 47: ...arn a new function To use these keys 1 Before using a key select the area A B or C of the key on which the function you want to use is stored by using the A B C switch 2 Press the key The original factory settings of these keys are as follows A Preset with functions for controlling a Yamaha tape deck Preset with functions for controlling a Yamaha CD player STOP is empty Preset with functions for c...

Страница 48: ...TROL KEYS When the lid is closed When the lid of the remote control transmitter is closed you can easily operate Yamaha components including learned functions by using the OPERATION CONTROL keys TAPE A CD TUNER VCR B DVD LD V AUX PHONO EFFECT ON OFF TV DBS C DIR TRANSMIT LEARN LEARN CLEAR MACRO PRESET A B C D E SLEEP MASTER VOLUME TV VCR STANDBY SYSTEM POWER ON MUTE REMOTE CONTROL TRANSMITTER REMO...

Страница 49: ...ys 2 except STOP DISC and Functions in area A of keys 3 and 10 Functions in area B of keys 1 except REC PAUSE A B DIR A and B Functions in area B of keys 2 except STOP DISC and Functions in area B of keys 3 and 10 Functions in area C of keys 1 except REC PAUSE A B DIR A and B Functions in area C of keys 2 except STOP DISC and Functions in area C of keys 3 and 10 Notes If the OPERATION CONTROL keys...

Страница 50: ...unctions onto a macro key Refer to page 51 for the learning method Setting the MACRO switch OFF In this position no macro will function even if the lid of remote control transmitter is closed QUICK In this position when a macro key is pressed each command is transmitted at 0 5 second intervals SLOW In this position when a macro key is pressed each command is transmitted at 3 second intervals REMOT...

Страница 51: ...next command If you will program the power on off switching function of TV VCR etc as part of a macro sequence note that it switches the current mode to the other on to off or off to on For example when you press the macro key if the power of TV VCR etc is already on the power will be turned off even though you may not want it to do so Once you press a macro key this unit will not receive the comm...

Страница 52: ...possible and then the mode before you began learning operations is restored 6 Repeat step 3 5 to store more functions 7 When you finish the learning operation press the LEARN button Notes Newly learned functions will replace previously learned functions If there is no more room in the memory area for a function to be learned the TRANSMIT LEARN indicator will flash rapidly In this case even if some...

Страница 53: ...o If the seventh key function has been learned the TRANSMIT LEARN indicator flashes rapidly and the mode before you began learning operations is restored This shows that the key has completed learning a series of functions as a macro If this occurs you do not have to follow the next step 5 When you finish learning press the MACRO button MAKING A NEW MACRO A new macro can be programmed onto any pre...

Страница 54: ...gain MACRO switch is switched to another position Another key is pressed There is no operation for about 30 seconds 3 Press and hold the CLEAR button again While holding the CLEAR button pressed press and hold the MASTER VOLUME and keys simultaneously until the indicator flashes 7 times SYMPTOM The remote control transmitter does not work Learning cannot be made successfully The TRANSMIT LEARN ind...

Страница 55: ...ion from the turntable to the GND terminal The record is being played on a turntable with an MC cartridge The component connected to the REC OUT terminals of this unit is in the standby mode The sound output level to the rear speakers is set to minimum The monaural sound source is played in DOLBY PRO LOGIC or DOLBY PRO LOGIC ENHANCED mode The sound output level to the center speaker is set to mini...

Страница 56: ... been unplugged for a long period Weak signal or loose antenna connections Noises will result from ligtning fluorescent lamps motors thermostats and other electrical equipment A television set is being used nearby Direct sunlight or lighting of an inverter type of fluorescent lamp etc is striking the remote control sensor of the main unit The batteries of this remote control transmitter are too we...

Страница 57: ... SP OUT 170 µV or less Channel Separation Vol 30 dB EFFECT OFF PHONO MM Input Shorted 1 kHz 10 kHz 60 dB or more 55 dB or more CD TAPE MD DVD LD TV DBS VCR VIDEO AUX Input 5 1 k ohms Shorted 1 kHz 10 kHz 60 dB or more 45 dB or more Tone Control Characteristics BASS Boost cut 10 dB 50 Hz Turnover Frequency 350 Hz TREBLE Boost cut 10 dB 20 kHz Turnover Frequency 3 5 kHz Filter Characteristics MAIN L...

Страница 58: ... 50 Hz Singapore model AC 230V 50 Hz China and General models AC 110 120 220 240V 50 60 Hz Power Consumption U S A model 300W Canada model 350W 420 VA Australia Singapore China and General models 350W Maximum Power Consumption General model only 690W AC Outlets 2 SWITCHED OUTLETS U S A Canada Singapore China and General models 100W max total 1 SWITCHED OUTLET Australia model 100W max total Dimensi...

Страница 59: ...ées Modèles pour les Etats Unis le Canada Singapour la Chine et général 100W max au total 1 prise commutée Modèle pour l Australie 100W max au total Dimensions L x H x P 435 x 151 x 391 mm Poids Modèles pour les Etats Unis et le Canada 12 0 kg Modèles pour l Australie Singapour la Chine et général 13 0 kg Accessoires Cadre antenne AM Antenne FM intérieure Emetteur de télécommande Piles Etiquettes ...

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