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Trouble shooting for electricians 

 

CE and CES Series troubleshooting.        Be sure you are a qualified electrician before proceeding. 

This series of units operates off a flow meter and computer board that turn the units elements on and off.  The thermostats in 
this unit are solely a safety feature to shut the unit down in case of failure.  Depending on how you are using your unit the 
thermostats could be 90 F or 200 F.   These thermostats determine the MAXIMUM temperature inside the unit before they 
break the circuit. 

1.

 

 Run fluid thru the unit and be sure any air is out of the unit. 

2.

 

Turn the unit on and watch the computer board. 

3.

 

If the computer board lights up and goes thru its diagnostic routine and shows your temperature setting when it is 
finished then the following parts are working properly..computer board..#6 in the picture below and pressure switch  
#9 in the picture below.   If you have water pressure of over 3 PSI and the board does not light up then check the 
pressure switch for continuity across the two spade terminals with wire connections on them.  If it has continuity and 
the board does not light up then you must replace the board.  If it does not  have continuity then you must replace the 
pressure switch. 

PROBLEMS THAT CAN OCCUR 

No heating of any water 

Solution 
1.

 

Verify that the computer board is on and reading the current temperature.  If not then check the water 
pressure and power in for a bad connection or not enough pressure. 

2.

 

Take the pressure switch out of the equation by connecting temporaily the in and out to the pressure switch. 
If the unit comes on when you do this the pressure switch is the problem. 

3.

 

Verify there is no blockage in the water stream as mentioned in 3 above. 

4.

 

If the board does not come on then it is possible the board has failed.  Call 800 826 5537 for a new one. 

Insufficient heating 

1

 

A common problem with this unit at initial start up is a restricted  flowmeter….see #2 in the picture below.   This 
part is a vortex meter that measures the fluid thru it.  If there is any restriction the flexible tube will have to be 
removed to enable a cleaning of the flow meter. 

2

 

If the unit is heating but not producing what you need check to see if the board is flashing.  If yes, it is telling you it 
is being asked to do more than it can.  Back off the flow level till the board quits flashing.  Then test the water 
output and compare it to the set point.   If the output temperature is still lower than expected you probably have a 
bad element or a blown fuse.  You will need to check continuity on all elements and fuses to determine which 

Содержание CE 12 KW

Страница 1: ...E 12 KW CE 15 KW CE 18 KW CE 24 KW CE 27 KW CE 48 KW CES 12 KW CES 15 KW CES 18 KW CES 24 KW CES 27 KW CES 36 KW CE 120 KW CE 144 KW or CE 108 KW CE 72 KW CE 54 KW or CE 48 KW CES 120 KW CES 144 KW or CES 108 KW CES 72 KW CES 54 KW or CES 48 KW FOR MORE DETAILED SCHEMATICS AND WIRING DIAGRAMS VISIT HOTWATERHEATER COM 2060 B Whitfield Park Avenue Sarasota FL 34243 800 826 5537 tanklessinc stiebel e...

Страница 2: ...O 54 KW CERO 72 KW CE 72 KW CES 72 KW CE 108 KW CES 108 KW CE 120 KW CES 120 KW CE 144 KW CES 144 KW __________________________________ PAGE How a CE and CES Series Heaters Work 3 Controls Explanation 4 Engineering Information and Breaker Sizes 5 Recovery Capacities Chart 6 CE Series Installation 7 Assembly Drawing 12 KW 15 KW or 18 KW 8 Assembly Drawing 24 KW 27 KW 36 KW 9 Assembly Drawing 48 KW ...

Страница 3: ... to the Control Board 3 Desired output temperature The customer provides this information and can adjust the level using the rocker switch at the left side of the unit for the 12 kw 15 kw 18 kw 36 kw 48 kw 54 kw and 72 kw units and using either the buttons on the board or the rocker switch on the right side for the 108 KW 120 KW or the 144 KW units 4 On the CE and CERO series the acceptable temper...

Страница 4: ...ters CE and CERO CES Maximum temperature 60 to 185 F 60 to 90 F Initial output setting per customer request 85 F Freeze protection at 40 degrees F Yes Yes For use on a recirculation system Yes No F or C F F Flashing to show over capacity condition Yes Yes Shows output temperature and Requested output temperature intermittently Each 60 seconds Yes Yes RS 232 interface available Yes Yes ...

Страница 5: ...owing charts show the full load AMP draw breakers required and physical size for each of our larger electronic units engineering chart and the capabilities of each unit recovery chart in terms of temperature rise at a certain flow rate ...

Страница 6: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 6 ...

Страница 7: ...o drive an external alarm 9 Flow water thru the unit 10 Check the settings on the delay switch in the unit Factory settings are 1 meaning one minute The unit will turn on 1 minute after you have power to the unit and the water pressure is above 3 PSI 11 Check kill switch to insure it is in the off pushed in position if applicable 12 Turn on the toggle switches to the unit s 10 in the picture on pa...

Страница 8: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 8 Assembly Drawing for CE 12 KW CE 15 KW CE 18 KW CES 12 KW CES 15 KW CES 18 KW ...

Страница 9: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 9 Assembly Drawing for CE 24 KW CE 27 KW or CE 36KW CERO 27 KW and CERO 36 KW CES 24 KW CES 27 KW CES 36 KW ...

Страница 10: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 10 Assembly Drawing for CE 72 or CE 54 or CE 48 KW CERO 72 KW or CERO 54 KW CES 48 KW CES 54 KW CES 72 KW ...

Страница 11: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 11 Assembly Drawing for CE 108 KW CE 120 KW or CE 144 KW CES 108 KW CES 120 KW CES 144 KW ...

Страница 12: ...tinuity then you must replace the pressure switch PROBLEMS THAT CAN OCCUR No heating of any water Solution 1 Verify that the computer board is on and reading the current temperature If not then check the water pressure and power in for a bad connection or not enough pressure 2 Take the pressure switch out of the equation by connecting temporaily the in and out to the pressure switch If the unit co...

Страница 13: ...w have a part that is not working and it is probably an element or a thermostat in that circuit Too much heat 1 This generally occurs when a triac fails and does not properly shut off the electricity flow to the elements In this case the thermostats sut the unit down but the customer will not be able to adjust the output temperature Find the failed triac by shutting off the flow and do the AMP dra...

Страница 14: ...800 826 5537 03 24 2017 14 ...

Страница 15: ...hrenheit the fuse side of the thermostat will burn and the thermostat will never work again The thermostat will have continuity if the fuse side of the thermostat is still good The thermostats condition is determined by a continuity check AFTER POWER IS OFF AND AFTER COLD WATER HAS BEEN RUN THRU THE HEATER TO RESET THE THERMOSTATS Continuity is tested between the arms on the thermostat Occasionall...

Страница 16: ...der Call us at 800 826 5537 for assistance if you have any questions If the unit is still not putting out the temperature of fluid you expect you need to do the following tests Set the temperature to a high enough temperature and flow level that the heater will need maximum draw to fulfill the task Test for full load AMP draw with an AMP meter after referring to the engineering chart on page 4 tha...

Страница 17: ... you have a computer board that is expecting more or less power going to the elements Shut the unit off and do an ohms test on each element as shown in step 1 above If all elements are good re do the continuity test on the thermostats If they all have continuity they are good and are not the problem If all the above checks out and you do not get the output you should then you should call us at 800...

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