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Sun Fire

TM

 V480 Server

Just the Facts

SunWIN token #333632

September 2002

Version 2.7

Notice: This document continues to be restricted to internal usage only because of
references to internal web pages. With the removal of these references, selected
sections of the document may be provided to customers and/or selling channels as
required. Competitive information and relative positioning should always remain as
internal documentation only.

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Страница 1: ...o be restricted to internal usage only because of references to internal web pages With the removal of these references selected sections of the document may be provided to customers and or selling channels as required Competitive information and relative positioning should always remain as internal documentation only ...

Страница 2: ...een EFS PGX PGX32 SunSpectrum SunSpectrum Platinum SunSpectrum Gold SunSpectrum Silver SunSpectrum Bronze SunStart SunVIP SunSolve and SunSolve EarlyNotifier are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems Inc in the United States and other countries All SPARC trademarks are used under license and are trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC International Inc in the United States a...

Страница 3: ...tion Data 24 Hardware Dimensions 24 Environment 24 Power Requirements 24 Temperature 25 Noise 25 BTU Heat load Data 25 Humidity noncondensing 25 Regulatory 25 Requirements and Configuration 26 System Requirements 26 Licensing Usage 26 Operating System Environment 26 Upgrades to Solaris 8 from Previous Versions 26 System Management 27 System Administration 27 OpenBoot Diagnostics 28 OpenBoot Firmwa...

Страница 4: ...Array with dual controllers 44 Multipathing to External Arrays with dual controllers 44 Software Requirements to Implement Multipathing 45 RAID Implementation 45 SCSI Storage 46 RAID Host Bus Adapters 46 USB Ports and Devices 46 Options 47 Upgrades 52 Sun Upgrade Allowance Program PLUS UAP PLUS 52 Key Messages 52 How To Order 53 Allowance Code Numbering Scheme 53 Upgrade Paths 53 Memory Configurat...

Страница 5: ...larisTM 8 Processors run at 900 MHz and must be added in pairs with 1 GB to 8 GB of local memory per processor All memory is accessible by any processor The Sun FireTM V480 server supports up to 32 GB of main memory two internal 36 GB or 73 GB Fibre Channel hard drives and six PCI slots connected to two high performance PCI I O busses The Sun FireTM V480 server is designed to satisfy any applicati...

Страница 6: ...lation and compute farms EDA Product Family Placement The Sun FireTM V480 server is an advanced member of the current workgroup server product family which scales from the low cost high performance two way Sun FireTM 280R Sun EnterpriseTM 220R and 250 servers and up to the four way Sun Enterprise 420R and Sun EnterpriseTM 450 servers and finally the eight way Sun Fire V880 These systems have sever...

Страница 7: ...onments Sun Enterprise 450 4 processor UltraSPARC II The Sun Enterprise 450 system s blend of computing power storage capacity disk I O throughput and network I O performance make it perfect for front ending databases from Oracle running email applications supporting hundreds and thousands of concurrent users and many mission critical client server applications Sun FireTM 280R Server 2 processor U...

Страница 8: ...OM only 3 slots for up to three 5 25 rem media devices PCI or cPCI slots 66 MHz 33 MHz 4 no cPCI 1 3 6 no cPCI 2 4 9 no cPCI 2 7 Integrated Network 10 100 Ethernet Two 10 100 1000 Ethernet 10 100 and 1 Gbit Ethernet Input Power 110 240 VAC 2 Power cords N 1 2 Power cords N 1 3 Power cords N 1 RAS Features Hot swap disks power supplies RSC Hot pluggable disks hot swap power supplies RSC multipathin...

Страница 9: ...res scalability with minimal contention and latency between processing and I O subsystems 6 PCI slots 2 at 66 MHz 64 bit wide and 4 at 33 MHz 64 bit wide across two PCI buses Allows users to configure systems according to their needs with additional network storage graphics adapters etc Eliminates contention among peripheral controllers thereby maximizing processing capabilities Hot plug disks and...

Страница 10: ...GB or 73 GB disks with optional secondary FC loop for higher bandwidth and redundancy Integrated Controllers Integrated FC AL disk controller two 10 100 1000 Mb s Ethernet ports RJ 45 serial and two USB ports Saves PCI slots for user selectable controllers Cost effective familiar to those from the PC environment I O Subsystem 1 2 GB sec throughput capability All I O is distributed across four PCI ...

Страница 11: ...ants and service providers i e order processing scheduling call center tracking etc Manufacturing Discrete manufacturing Process manufacturing IT Finance and Accounting Human Resources ERP MRP solutions Supply Chain management Engineering Sales Marketing Customer Service and Electronic Commerce Telecommunications and Internet Services Internet HTTP email FTP directory servers and electronic commer...

Страница 12: ...calable multithread performance Exceptional total system throughput Decision Support Online analytical processing Scalable computing power Storage connectivity and I O performance Groupware Collaboration LotusTM Notes Enterprise networking and PC interoperability Supports hundreds of UNIX or PC clients Internet Internet Providers Application Service Providers Secure reliable and cost effective Sun...

Страница 13: ...are The Sun FireplaneTM Interconnect insures scalability and minimal latency for applications and workloads across the range of 2 to 4 way multiprocessing systems The integrated dual 10 100 1000 Mb s Ethernet ports provide the most commonly used interfaces at the lowest cost without consuming valuable PCI slots Hot pluggable swappable components such as disks and power supplies help maximize syste...

Страница 14: ...bus is 512 bits wide and has a peak throughput of 3 2 GB sec On chip L2 cache controller with on chip tag RAM To reduce latency to the 8 Mbyte L2 external cache both the L2 cache controller and tag RAM reside on the processor Since the L2 tag RAM is operating at processor speeds and not the slower L2 cache speed cache misses are detected earlier and memory fetch operations may be initiated sooner ...

Страница 15: ...ities that allow switches and hubs to enhance availability and bandwidth between systems and storage controllers FC AL is also a high reliability interconnect The interface is robust enough to allow multiple devices to be removed from the loop at once without interruption to on going services FC AL has the following characteristics Industry standard FC AL development effort is part of the ANSI ISO...

Страница 16: ...r modem The System Service Processor is a fully independent processor card that resides on the system I O board The SSP allows administrators to remotely query the status of the system diagnose faults and initiate a system power on off or reboot Because it operates independently from the server the SSP can constantly monitor a variety of conditions perform the following View the server s front pan...

Страница 17: ...System Architecture Figure 2 Sun FireTM V480 Server Block Diagram Sun FireTM V480 Server Sept 26 2002 Just the Facts 13 Sun Proprietary and Confidential Internal Use Only ...

Страница 18: ... has an 8 MB external L2 cache implemented with eight SRAM devices Memory Subsystem Memory within the Sun FireTM V480 Server is distributed across the dual CPU memory modules with each processor controlling a portion of the total memory In order to minimize latency the memory controller is integrated on the processor chip Latency to non local memory is substantially less than that incurred by more...

Страница 19: ...ta bus The level of interleaving is implemented as 8 DIMMs 4 way if all DIMMs are identical otherwise 2 way 12 DIMMs 4 way between any two groups configured identically 2 way on each group otherwise 16 DIMMs 8 way if all DIMMS are identical 4 way between any two groups configured identically 2 way on each group that does not match any other group If successive accesses alternate between two distin...

Страница 20: ... bits 5 V The two 66 MHz slots and one 33 MHz slot accept adapters either 64 or 32 bits wide and full length 12 cards The other three 33 MHz slots accept short 7 cards However if a 33 MHz adapter is inserted into either of the 66 MHz slots it will cause that bus segment to operate at 33 MHz The DVD is connected via an integrated IDE controller from one of the 33 MHz PCI buses Sustainable throughpu...

Страница 21: ...aris 8 will mask the failure of a FC loop or controller from the application thereby allowing uninterrupted processing The current release of Multipathing I O will not provide support for the FC AL loops upon which the boot device resides The X 6727A PCI to dual FC AL controller with an internal connector provides both an internal and an external connector for one loop and only an external connect...

Страница 22: ...e Manager Tier 2 server license This license is sufficient to support either a workgroup or departmental server Each rack configuration ships with a single Veritas Volume Manager Tier 2 server license A StorEdge A5x00 has a limited license for which an upgrade is sufficient VSAS 9999 W9U9 Upgrade to full Tier 1license on Solaris for Veritas Volume Manager to the limited license for Sun StorEdge A5...

Страница 23: ... system firmware and the sending of a BREAK from the system console Near the keyswitch is a momentary contact pushbutton The pushbutton is used to power on and off the system as long as the keyswitch is in either the NORMAL or DIAG position Front Rear Indicators To enhance serviceability the Sun Firetm V480 server includes several LED status indicators located at the front and at the rear of the s...

Страница 24: ...ystem against Extreme temperatures Lack of adequate air flow Power supply problems Monitoring and control capabilities reside at the operating system level as well as within the system s PROM firmware Consequently protection is assured even if the system is halted or unable to boot The EM C system uses an industry standard I2C bus to monitor temperature sensors fans power supplies status LEDs and ...

Страница 25: ...supported by Sun Additional information may be found under http workgroup corp sales rackmount rackmount_guidelines html Reliability Availability and Serviceability RAS Reliability availability and serviceability are three aspects of the design and quality of a system that contribute to continuous operation and consequently minimize system downtime Reliability Reliability refers to a system s abil...

Страница 26: ...Detailed information concerning MTBF and availability may obtained using RAStool at http ram server eng Alternatively a detailed analysis report is available at http ramserver eng RAM Ram_ToolSer PROJECTS DAKTARI avail_analysis daktari_availability_report html These documents will indicate that the system can provide extremely high levels of availability It is important to note the method of analy...

Страница 27: ...nal Frequencies 50 60 Hz Nominal Voltage Range 100 240 VAC Maximum Current AC RMS 10A 100 120 VAC 5A 200 240VAC Maximum AC Power Consumption 1100W Maximum Heat Dissipation 3751 BTU hr Standard Configuration Power Requirements Note no PCI cards running Sun VTS A37 WSPF2 04GQB running SUNVTS Power at the following nominal line voltages 120VAC 60Hz 479W 208VAC 60Hz 470W 230VAC 50Hz 468W A37 WSPF4 16G...

Страница 28: ...latory Meets or exceeds the following requirements Safety UL 60950 CSA C22 2 EN 60950 from U L TUV 60950 UL CB scheme IEC 950 CE mark GOST RFI EMI Class A Australia New Zealand AS NZ 3548 Industry Canada ICES 003 European Community EN55022 CISPR22 Japan VCCI Taiwan CNS 13438 and US FCC 47CFR15 B Immunity EN55024 i e EN61000 4 2 EN61000 4 3 EN61000 4 4 EN61000 4 5 EN61000 4 6 EN61000 4 8 EN61000 4 ...

Страница 29: ...rs with a capacity of eight or fewer CPUs Please refer to www sun com software solaris binaries for more details and to register under this program Upgrades to Solaris 8 from Previous Versions SolarisTM 8 2 02 SU 7 or later is required for the Sun FireTM V480 For customers who are running an earlier version of SolarisTM the Solaris Application Guarantee Program ensures that existing applications w...

Страница 30: ...ftware installation Sun OpenBootTM firmware Solaris Web Start and Solaris Web Start WizardsTM Standard Standard System configuration Solaris Management ConsoleTM Remote System Control RSC Standard Standard User administration Solaris Management Console Remote System Control RSC Standard Standard Security management Sun Enterprise Authentication MechanismTM SunScreenTM Secure Net SunScreen SPF 200 ...

Страница 31: ...vely The OpenBoot firmware provides a command line interface for customers at the system console Customers can enter the OpenBoot environment by halting the operating system using the Stop A key sequence from the keyboard or by power cycling the system The OpenBoot device tree is a data structure that describes both the permanently installed and plug in devices attached to a system Both the user a...

Страница 32: ...ystems Based on JavaTM technology Solaris Management Console software can launch any UNIX application on any Solaris server in a network It provides views of servers on the network as well as applications on those servers which allows for easy local and remote administration of multiple servers running Solaris Management Console software It also delivers powerful capabilities to make the process o...

Страница 33: ...sers such as Wall Street traders may occasionally need faster access to execute a complex query while other users in the same environment have more consistent workloads With Solaris Resource Manager software you can allocate resources so that both groups get the responsiveness they need when they need it Server Consolidation Solaris Resource Manager achieves the long sought goal of server consolid...

Страница 34: ...Desktop Management Interface DMI and Common Management Information Protocol CMIP Developers can write WBEM agents or providers to convert information from these protocols to the CIM schema Solaris WBEM Services contains a set of tools Sun WBEM SDK and services to make it easier for software developers to create applications based on the CIM schema and XML HTTP communication standards that manage S...

Страница 35: ...ge management solution for enterprise environments It provides high data availability and reliability delivers excellent I O performance and simplifies large system and disk administration With Solstice DiskSuite software customers get a powerful set of tools to enhance data availability Mirroring Solstice DiskSuite software provides a comprehensive data redundancy solution It transparently mainta...

Страница 36: ... use Sun Cluster Management Console Fault management API to customize applications for high availability Individual application failover local application restart and local network adaptor failover for fast recovery High speed cluster interconnects and high bandwidth networking deliver exceptional throughput The Sun Fire V480 server supports Sun Cluster 3 0 and includes support for the following s...

Страница 37: ...r KDC fail the read only replicated slave KDC still holds the necessary information for the authentication process to take place without interruption What s more if the master becomes unrecoverable customers can easily convert the replicated slave to be the new master Faster performance Sun Enterprise Authentication Mechanism software is faster and more reliable because its replicated KDCs reduce ...

Страница 38: ...d more time optimizing service delivery less time dealing with management complexity For example Sun Management Center software provides remote online control so administrators can work from virtually anywhere No cease management provides uninterrupted monitoring while new features are added or existing features are reconfigured And built in security enables multiple administrators with different ...

Страница 39: ...ddress provides two benefits The stealthing makes SunScreen SPF software more secure as potential intruders can not address the machine running SunScreen SPF 200 software Also installation of SunScreen SPF software into the network is easy since the administrator can install it without changing routing tables The stealth design hardens the operating system and turns the system into a dedicated Sun...

Страница 40: ...ed to monitor and administer tape libraries via a web browser enabled by Java technology Sun StorEdge LibMON software allows for event logging and notification as well as remote monitoring of library activity Sun StorEdge LibMON software will monitor library status and activity through periodic polling of the library providing status on the DLT drives library robotics inventory and cartridge slot ...

Страница 41: ... view and control a testing session over modem lines or over a network Using a remote system customers can view the progress of a SunVTS testing session change testing options and control all testing features of another system on the network The SunVTS system exerciser is a graphically oriented UNIX application that permits the continuous exercising of system resources and internal and external pe...

Страница 42: ...systems insure a functional base system via a single line item for the convenience of customers sales and operation manufacturing Three Sun FireTM V480 server Standard Configurations and three bundle configurations with the T3 will be offered Sun FireTM V480 Server Sept 26 2002 Just the Facts 38 Sun Proprietary and Confidential Internal Use Only ...

Страница 43: ...post rackmount kit with cable management arm DVD IDE drive RSC module with modem Two power supplies providing N 1 redundancy Two integrated 10 100 1000 Mb s Ethernet ports 1 RJ45 serial port 2 USB ports i e for optional keyboard and mouse SolarisTM server license SolarisTM 8 2 02 or later 3 year second day on site hardware warranty A37 WSPF4 16GQB Sun Fire V480 server with 4 CPUs at 900 MHz Cu 2 p...

Страница 44: ... GB memory implemented as 8 X7051A options 2 36 GB 1 0 10 000 RPM FC AL disks and 660 GB Sun StorEdge T3 array for the workgroup 9X72 8GB 10000 rpm FCAL drives 1 RAID Controller Includes Sun StorEdge Component Manager 2 2 X6799A PCI Adapter rack rails for T3 and 5m fiber optic cable A37 WSPF4 32 T3660 Sun Fire V480 server with 4 CPUs at 900 MHz Cu 2 processor memory modules 32 GB memory implemente...

Страница 45: ...not provide all of the features especially failover capabilities that are available with the leadville driver and the Qlogic 2200 implementation Limited resources and emphasis on higher availability preclude maintaining both devices For similar reasons the X2069A combination Gigabit Ethernet and FC AL controller which utilizes the Qlogic 2100 series chip is also not supported on UltraSPARC III sys...

Страница 46: ...tipathing to external arrays with dual internal controllers each path from the host must utilize the same interface i e two X6727A or two X6799A The X6799A PCI to single FC AL controller is considered equivalent to the X6727A PCI to dual FC AL controller as they are both implemented with the same Qlogic 2200 series chip One may be substituted for or mixed with the other when implementing multipath...

Страница 47: ...vely sophisticated designs which have common and often mirrored internal caches and dual internal controllers microprocessors which implement the RAID structure with error detection and transparent failover RAID may be implemented on the internal storage array by either Solstice Disk Suite or Veritas Volume Manager with Dynamic Multipathing The Sun Fire V480 server requires a departmental Tier 1 l...

Страница 48: ... loop B port 1 External Storage Interfaces X6540A Dual channel single ended UltraSCSI PCI host adapter 6 X6541A Dual channel differential UltraSCSI PCI host adapter 6 X6758A Dual channel Ultra3 SCSI PCI host adapter 6 X6767A FC AL PCI Adapter 2 Gbit 6 X6768A Dual FC AL loop PCI Adapter 2 Gbit 6 X6799A Single FC AL loop PCI adapter external connector only Qlogic 2202 Chip 6 X6727A Dual FC AL loop P...

Страница 49: ...net plus FC AL is not supported in UltraSPARC III systems PCI Interoperability X2132A Sun Pci Card 3 PCI Hardware Accelerator X1133A Hardware Accelerator Card for SSL 3 X6762A SSi Accelerator Card 1 PCI Video and Graphics Adapters X1089A Sun Video Plus 4 X3768A PGX 64 color graphics PCI adapter frame buffer 4 X3668A PGX32 8 bit and 24 bit Color Frame Buffer 4 X3685A XVR 500 graphics PCI adapter 3 ...

Страница 50: ...rEdge expansion cabinet deLorean Rack Note Maximum of five fully populated Sun Fire V480 systems per rack SF XCAB Serengeti Expansion Rack Note Maximum of five fully populated Sun Fire V480 systems per rack Additional PCI Adapters Other PCI adapters including those for ATM FDDI and Token Ring are available from I O Technologies Group http www sun com io Unsupported PCI Adapters The following is a ...

Страница 51: ...SunWINPublicView jsp token 130674 Product Family Placement Sun StorEdge D2 Array Sun StorEdge A1000 D1000 Array Sun StorEdge A5X00 Array Sun StorEdge T3 Array for the Workgroup Workgroup Workgroup Department to data center Workgroup Host based software RAID Controller based RAID A1000 Host based RAID D1000 Host based RAID Controller based RAID single controller SolarisTM Operating Environment Sola...

Страница 52: ...dwidth for data capture retrieval and storage When NOT to sell Applications requiring more than 436 GB in a single array Customer requires Fibre Channel today When NOT to sell Applications requiring more than 436 GB in a single array Customer requires Fibre Channel today When NOT to sell Hardware RAID 5 required Non Solaris Operating Environment or Microsoft Windows NT host attach required When NO...

Страница 53: ...onsisting of 4 256 MB DIMMs All memory DIMM slots fully populated X9713A Cable to connect the internal connector of X 6727A PCI to dual FC AL controller to the alternate Loop B port of the internal storage array X9631A Two post Rackmount kit Sun FireTM V480 Server Sept 26 2002 Just the Facts 49 Sun Proprietary and Confidential Internal Use Only ...

Страница 54: ... within 60 days a bootable working system Key Messages The Sun Fire V480 Server is available in standard fixed configurations The Sun Fire V480 Server provides a growth path for today s Enterprise 450 Enterprise 420R and Sun Fire 280R customers who require more application scalability higher performance and built in availability and reliability components Hot pluggable and hot swappable components...

Страница 55: ...ldwide Configuration Guide or Sun Win 108142 for standard trade in allowances 4 x 256 MB DIMMs 1 GB Memory Option X 7053A 4 DIMMs of 256 MB each 4 GB Memory Option X 7056A 4 DIMMs of 1GB each Same as above 4 x 256 MB DIMMs 2 GB Memory Option X 7051A 4 DIMMs of 512 MB each 4GB Memory Option X 7056A 4 DIMMs of 1GB each Same as above 4 x 512 MB DIMMs Memory Configurations Please refer to details unde...

Страница 56: ...ach coverage Yes Yes Yes Yes System availability guarantee Customized No No No Account Support Features Service account management team Yes No No No Local customer support management No Yes No No Personal technical account support Yes Yes Option No SunStartSM installation service Yes No No No Account support plan Yes Yes No No Software release planning Yes No No No On site account reviews Monthly ...

Страница 57: ...order FCO management assistance Yes No No No Hardware Support Delivery Replacement hardware parts On site technician On site technician On site technician Courier Two day parts delivery N A N A N A Yes Overnight parts delivery N A N A N A Option Same day parts delivery Yes Yes Yes Option Remote Systems Diagnostics Remote dial in analysis Yes Yes Yes Yes Remote systems monitoring Yes Yes No No Remo...

Страница 58: ...rEdge hardware only installation event ARRAY HW INS BASE2 Per tray charge Order in quantities of total number of disk trays being installed ARRAY HW PER TRAY 4 Sun StorEdge ArrayStart Order both of the following part numbers for each Sun StorEdge ArrayStart installation event ARRAY INS BAS2 Per tray charge Order in quantities of total number of disk trays being installed ARRAY INS PER TRAY Warrant...

Страница 59: ...ault tolerance Capability of a system to mask any individual point of failure This type of system is typically implemented with redundancy of components and synchronization of clock signals to maintain each unit in lock step with it s counterpart FC AL Fibre Channel arbitrated loop A loop topology used with Fibre I2C A bus used for environmental monitoring High availability Capability of a system ...

Страница 60: ...to continuous operation and minimizing system downtime for services Together reliability availability and serviceability provide for near continuous system operation RSC Remote System Control A remote monitoring and administration feature that allows systems administrators to access the system console from any host on the network sends e mail or pager notice of system faults and provides boot and ...

Страница 61: ...et Sales Tool SunWIN Reseller Web Sun FireTM V480 Configuration Guide Configuration Guide Sales Tool SunWIN Reseller Web 339717 References External Web Sites General Information on the Sun FireTM V480 Server http www sun com servers entry V480 index html Features and Benefits of the Sun FireTM V480 Server http www sun com servers entry V480 features html Specifications of the Sun FireTM V480 Serve...

Страница 62: ...32 KB instruction 32 KB data L2 cache 8 MB 256 KB 256 KB 256 KB 8 MB 4 MB Maximum CPUs 4 4 4 4 4 4 Maximum Memory 32 GB 32 GB 16 GB 8 GB 32 GB 64 GB System Bandwidth GB sec 9 6 3 2 3 2 3 2 8 0 2 1 PCI slots 6 2 66 MHz 64 bit 4 33 MHz 64 bit 6 6 PCI X 100MHz 64 bit 8 7 PCI X 100MHz 64 bit 1 33 MHz 32 bit 6 PCI X 4 8 Internal Disk Controller Integrated FC AL Integrated Mulitipathing capability Integ...

Страница 63: ...Windows 2000 Linux AIX 4 3 3 Linux Windows 2002 Linux Price 2 CPUs 4 GB 2 disks with S W 22 995 27 507 23 791 26 035 25 960 27 537 Price 4 CPUs 16 GB 2 disks with S W 46 995 N A TBD 62 401 78 807 Price 4 CPUs 32 GB 2 disks with S W 99 995 N A N A N A N A 98 800 Notes Competitive pricing based upon information available in Sept 2002 All systems configured with two disks per system IBM and Dell Inte...

Страница 64: ...lead Point Counterpoint This section provides anticipated comments and objections that may be encountered when presenting the Sun Fire V480 server Clock speed of UltraSPARC III systems and Sun Fire V480 is relatively slow in comparison to others i e 900MHz vs 1 0 GHz of Intel Counterpoint Clock speed is not indicative of performance by itself Cycles can be used very very differently Consider the v...

Страница 65: ...ffering of the UltraSPARC III chip The product has been successfully used in Sun Blade workstations the Sun Fire 280R and the Serengeti family The licensing fees for the operating systems are relatively comparable Counterpoint Windows 2000 Server supports Up to a 4 way SMP system Up to 4 GB of memory An unlimited number of internet connections 1 995 license fee Windows 2000 Advanced Server support...

Страница 66: ...herent RAS features Hot swappable power supplies and disks RSC2 ASR Excellent features and form factor for Data center customers Key Features to Highlight High performance CPU IO system Rackable 5RU processor dense form factor High memory capacity Compact design 24 inch depth Reliability and serviceability Availability of applications Connectivity to external storage Where the Sun Fire V480 is not...

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