background image

10-9

10-9

SRG8

EN1

1

D

STB

+

-

+

-

VDD

PROTECTION

TIMING & SYNC

CHECK

CRC

INTERF

CPU

RAM

2 PORT

32 x 8

M

M

1

2

3

4

#

5

(19 Pin)

#

+10V

from digital-out circuitry

15

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

DIPMATE

DIGout

POS rec

uP_CLK

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

1805 D15
1875 D2

#

3

logic

SHR_CL

GND

5.6V v

e

rsion only

GND

#

Output enable 

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

15

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

8003

PORE

1883

COAX2/EBU

to 7877 on part 1

SILD

POS1 rec

1878 D2
1880 E8
1881 E8
2829 D6

2830 B10
2831 B9
2832 A8
2852 H2
2853 F4
2854 B3

2858 A10
2860 A10
2861 B10
2862 B9
2863 B8
2864 B3

2865 C4
2867 A9

GNDA

FE-ST-VK-N

LEFT

CD-Text circuitry  (not for all versions)

+5V(+5.6V)

#

CD-TEXT

GND

1877

RF-500TB

1876

RIGHT

2872 G10
2873 D6
2875 E6
2876 C8

2877 F11
2878 F11
2881 F8
2882 B10
2893 F12
3700 H2

3705 G4
3706 G4
3707 G4
3708 G4
3711 G5

8002

3CDC-LC-mainboard 

SW_INFO

to combi-

(15 Pin)

KILL_L

BASIC VERSION

Changer Control

TRAY POS

3712 B4

3713 F8
3714 F8
3715 G8
3716 B3
3717 B3
3718 G3

3730 G2
3731 G2
3732 G2
3733 G2
3734 G2
3740 A7

3741 A7
3742 B7
3743 A7
3744 A9
3746 B10

#

1882

#

EBU_GND

delay circuitry

voltage stab.

GND/KILL_R

#

3750 B7

3751 C7
3770 A11
3771 A12
3772 A12
3780 B11
3781 B12

3782 B12
3809 B2
3814 C12
3831 F4
3851 D6
3854 A11

3855 B11
3858 A11
3859 B11
3860 B8
3861 B8
3864 A7

DOWN

DQSY

SICL

#

board

to/from 7877 on part 1

3

2

SRDT

3868 C4
3871 F12
3872 B13
3874 B13
3875 C12
3876 C11

3877 F12
3878 E12
3879 D7
3880 E6
3881 E7
3882 C7

3883 D6
3884 D6
3885 C6
3886 E7
3887 D6
3888 F12

3890 F11
3891 F11

#

#

DRIVE UP/

SHR_STR

RF-500TB

CAROUSEL-MOTOR

3893 F11
3898 F6
3899 D12
4803 B4

4813 G14
4827 G14
4849 G13
4876 C13
5802 B4
6871 E8

6872 E8
6873 E8
6874 G7
6875 F6
6876 C13
6877 D12

6878 E8
6879 G4
7805-A A10

DATA

DRAWER-MOTOR

part 2

#

7805-B A9
7812 G8
7850 A12

7851 A13
7860 B12
7861 B13
7871 C5
7873 C9
7874 C12

7875 C12
7876 G3
MP721 C8
MP722 E8
MP723 C8
MP724 D8

MP725 D8
MP726 D8
MP740 H14
MP741 G14

MP891 B5
MP892 B5
MP897 D12
MP898 D13
MP899 E14

(23 Pin)

2

MP742 G14
MP801 D12

MP803 F10
MP804 G14
MP805 E13
MP806 F13
MP807 F14
MP808 E13

MP810 F13
MP811 F13
MP822 E3
MP823 D3
MP824 D4
MP825 D4

MP830 A9
MP832 G9
MP833 F13
MP834 G14
MP835 F14
MP854 A13

MP856 E14
MP857 B13

1

4

COAX1/+3V

1

MP862 G13
MP863 C11
MP865 D11
MP866 E8

MP867 E8
MP868 F8
MP869 C12
MP871 D6
MP874 D12
MP881 G2

MP882 G2
MP886 G3
MP887 H5
MP888 G5
MP889 G5
MP890 B3

8

3707 470R

2

15

O0

4

O1

5

O2

6

O3

7

14

O4

O5

13

O6

12

O7

11

9

Os

10

STR

1

VDD 16

VSS

HEF4094BT

7873

CP

3

D

220p

2862

3718

4K7

4813

10K

3770

GNDA

1K

3891

10K

3731

3880

3K9

220p

2893

6878

BAS216

2861

10u

BC847B

47n

2830

7874

10K

3871

10K

3860

2853

22n

GNDA

33R

3814

4876

GNDA

3872

2882

220p

10K

470R

3893

BC817-40

7861

BC857B

7860

TDA1308T

7805-A

3

2

1

3732

4827

7805-B

5

6

7

8

4

470R

TDA1308T

470R

3708

BAS216

6873

3859

22K

GNDA

1881

47u

3746

10K

2873

3886

47K

1

6

7

16

OUT1-

13

9

12

5

3

4

8

11

15

7

8

9

7871

TDA7073A

14

10

2

18

19

2

20

21

22

23

3

4

5

6

1

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

FE-ST-VK-N

1805

3780

10K

BAS216

6872

33K

3730

GNDA

100R

3864

BZX284-C3V9

6877

7851

BC817-40

3884

270R

EXCK

GND

7

MCK

5

2 SBSO

SCLK 11

SCOR

3

SRDT 12

SW1 9

SW2 10

TEST

8

VDD

14

WFCK

4

XMODE

6

7876
LC89170M

DQSY 13

1

3858

1880

GNDA

22K

2877

47p

3831

100R

10K

2832

100p

3744

1K

3750

2876

220u

2858

220u

2872

47n

220R

22K

3713

10K

3888

3705

6876

BAS216

GNDA

470R

3734

3772

1K

3890

100K

3881

1K

3782

1K

6879

BZX284-C3V9

6874

BAS216

7875

BC847B

GNDA

BZX284-C5V1

6875

2863

10K

3877

220p

3R3

3851

3700

GNDA

3742

470R

22K

22K

3771

3879

100K

1878

DIPMATE

1

2

3

10K

3711

2867

220p

3751

1K

3743

22K

2829

3861

10K

22n

1875

FE-ST-VK-N

1

2

3

4

5

2875

10u

2860

10u

3740

22K

2852

47n

4849

3883 10K

10K

3714

3855

100R

2831

100p

3899

100R

3885

3741

22K

3781

22K

10K

2878

220p

7850

BC857B

3874

10K

3878

10K

GNDA

220R

3898

470R

3706

GNDA

470R

3733

3715

100K

BAS216

6871

3854

100R

3875 10K

3882

47K

4u7

2881

220R

3887

3876

100K

7812
BC847B

+3.3V

+5.6V

+10V

KILL_L_out

SDA

+3.3V

SICL

SILD

+3.3V

+5V

+4V

+5.6V

+5.6V

+10V

KILL_R_out

KILL_L_out

LP

LN

+3.3V

+3.3V

KILL_L

KILL_R

RCK

CL11

SUB

SBSY

SFSY

RN

RP

COAX2

COAX1

PORE

KILL_R_out

3CDC-LC Part2 19990920

From 7877 on part 1

(Signal Processor)

From 7877 on part 1

(Signal Processor)

3.2V

0V

10V

4.9V

3V-5V log.

Level

converter

2V

2.3V

4.2V

2V

5,1V

CD-TEXT INFO

0V

4.9V

4V

2.3V

0V

0V

0V

3.3ms

4V

4.5V

0V

5,1V

2V

5.1V

5.1V

0V

4.1V

0V

SRDT

SD

A

3.3V

7.35KHz

0V

0V

SCLK

11MHz

4.9V

0V

0V

only during

4V

4.9V

5.1V

5V(5.6V)

TOC-reading

0V

DQSY

5.1V

0V

2V

EVM

V

...DC voltages measured
in Play mode 

7877

from

on
part1

330R

3809

470R

3809

2864

22p

2854

47n

3716

470R

3716

100R

DOBM

7877

from

on
part1

DOBM

10R

3712

1R

3717

10R

3712

to 1805

to 1805

COAX2

COAX2

COAX1

5802
920927152B

1

2

3

4

6

7

8

2865

22n

digital out circuitry - 75

 version (not on all versions)

digital out circuitry 

(not for 75

 Versions)

Содержание FW-C220

Страница 1: ...ads 3103 303 34283 To enable the use of this 3CDC99 DS version following modifications have been implemented Mechanical Pos 107 changed to 8203 306 84031 Cover Tray 3CDC99 Front Board 7401 changed to 8203 239 35241 TMP87CP71F Note This microprocessor will only work in combination with the 3CDC99 Module Combi Board 1509 Flex Foil Socket 15p deleted 1511 Flex Foil Socket 23p 4822 267 10757 added Pin...

Страница 2: ......

Страница 3: ...2 Wiring Diagram 10 4 Blockdiagram 10 5 Component Layout Main Board 10 6 Circuit Diagram part1 10 7 Component Layout Main Board 10 8 Circuit Diagram part2 10 9 Exploded View 10 10 Partslist 10 12 3CDC LC 3 Disc Carousel Changer Layout stage 5 ...

Страница 4: ... WHEN CONNECTING A NEW CD MECHANISM THAT S WHY BESIDES THE SAFETY MEASURES LIKE SWITCH OFF POWER SUPPLY ESD PROTECTION ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MUST BE TAKEN BY THE REPAIR TECHNICIAN fig 1 Attention The laser diode of this CD drive is protected against ESD by a solder joint which shortcircuits the laserdiode to ground For proper functionality of the CD drive this solder joint must be removed after conne...

Страница 5: ... of Tray Service hints 1 Open the tray 2 Release 2x catch as shown in fig 2 and Detail A 3 Pull tray out fig 2 Assembling of Tray 1 Turn Cam pos 48 clockwise to end position 2 If necessary move Guiding pos 49 to the right end position 3 Insert the Tray ...

Страница 6: ...10 4 Wiring Disc Motor Inner switch Slide Motor Service Position ...

Страница 7: ...SC CD MECHANISM FOCUS MOTOR RADIAL MOTOR SLEDGE MOTOR MOTOR TURNTABLE PHOTODIODE HF AMPLIFIER LOADER CONTROL PCB EN1 DATA STB SHR_CL SICL SILD PORE 7875 7801 3 3V CD LEFT 7805 7877 CD RIGHT Laser Control HF AMPLIFIER TZA1024 TZA1025 55 54 56 38 7 18 20 21 23 15 5 2 3 22 23 18 19 2 4 6 5 9 SWITCH INFO 17 16 15 6 42 40 39 5 17 21 52 57 59 60 64 1 13 5V 2 5 6V 8 4 5 7 V4 61 15 63 10 11 6 14 7 14 4 15...

Страница 8: ... 3814 D4 3819 C3 3820 F4 3821 F4 3822 F4 3823 F3 3824 F3 3825 E3 3826 E3 3827 D4 3828 D2 3831 C2 3832 C3 3833 E4 3834 F4 3837 D2 3838 D2 3839 E2 3840 E3 3841 D2 3842 D2 3843 E2 3844 F2 3845 D2 3846 E2 3847 G2 3848 D3 3849 E2 3850 E1 3853 E4 3854 B5 3855 B5 3856 E4 3857 E4 3858 B5 3859 B5 3860 B4 3861 C4 3862 C4 3863 D2 3864 B4 3866 F3 3867 C4 3868 B3 3869 F4 3870 F4 3871 H1 3872 B3 3873 C3 3874 B3...

Страница 9: ...869 470R 3889 2808 220p EBUGND 3856 68R 180p 2802 22K 3833 2839 47u 4u7 2884 3servo 4K7 3821 3 3V 3843 2826 47u 2859 10n 33K 47K 3842 1n5 2818 1K 3823 6K8 3847 47n 2825 220p 2803 3709 4K7 3841 1R 2800 180p 3825 1K 330p 2807 1K 3838 3840 2842 2n2 100K 15K 3870 100n 10K 2840 3808 4811 10K 3866 4812 5V 3811 18K 2891 1n5 220p 2801 2823 56p 3822 2851 220u 2809 2K7 47u 2837 0u47 470p 2855 2885 4u7 3 3V ...

Страница 10: ... 3814 D4 3819 C3 3820 F4 3821 F4 3822 F4 3823 F3 3824 F3 3825 E3 3826 E3 3827 D4 3828 D2 3831 C2 3832 C3 3833 E4 3834 F4 3837 D2 3838 D2 3839 E2 3840 E3 3841 D2 3842 D2 3843 E2 3844 F2 3845 D2 3846 E2 3847 G2 3848 D3 3849 E2 3850 E1 3853 E4 3854 B5 3855 B5 3856 E4 3857 E4 3858 B5 3859 B5 3860 B4 3861 C4 3862 C4 3863 D2 3864 B4 3866 F3 3867 C4 3868 B3 3869 F4 3870 F4 3871 H1 3872 B3 3873 C3 3874 B3...

Страница 11: ...1 G2 MP882 G2 MP886 G3 MP887 H5 MP888 G5 MP889 G5 MP890 B3 8 3707 470R 2 15 O0 4 O1 5 O2 6 O3 7 14 O4 O5 13 O6 12 O7 11 9 Os 10 STR 1 VDD 16 VSS HEF4094BT 7873 CP 3 D 220p 2862 3718 4K7 4813 10K 3770 GNDA 1K 3891 10K 3731 3880 3K9 220p 2893 6878 BAS216 2861 10u BC847B 47n 2830 7874 10K 3871 10K 3860 2853 22n GNDA 33R 3814 4876 GNDA 3872 2882 220p 10K 470R 3893 BC817 40 7861 BC857B 7860 TDA1308T 78...

Страница 12: ...0 NAIL FIXATION 46 3103 304 06880 GEAR 2 47 3103 304 66530 BRACKET LOAD 48 3103 304 06910 CAM 49 3103 304 66510 GUIDING 51 3103 304 06900 GEAR 4 52 3103 304 06870 GEAR 1 53 3103 304 06960 PULLEY FRAME 54 3103 304 66910 DRIVING BELT DRAWER 55 4822 361 10753 TRAY MOTOR 56 4822 502 12548 SCREW M2 6X3 5 57 3103 304 68890 COVER VAM 59 4822 466 12146 RUBBER MECHANICAL PARTS Drawer Chapter 10 11 20 3103 ...

Страница 13: ...10 11 3CDC LC Drawer assy 1999 09 13 37 20 32 35 33 36 29 31 34 24 30 3x 27 24 22 20 23 25 21 26 28 Drawer top view Drawer bottom view X spare part non spare part Y ...

Страница 14: ...0 4822 124 11947 10µF 20 16V 2861 4822 124 11947 10µF 20 16V 2862 4822 122 33575 220pF 5 50V 2863 4822 122 33575 220pF 5 50V 2864 5322 122 32658 22pF 5 50V CAPACITORS 2865 5322 122 32654 22nF 10 63V 2867 4822 122 33575 220pF 5 50V 2869 4822 126 13751 47nF 10 50V 2872 4822 126 13751 47nF 10 50V 2873 4822 124 80231 47µF 20 16V 2875 4822 124 11947 10µF 20 16V 2876 4822 124 12245 220µF 20 16V 2877 482...

Страница 15: ...3 220Ω 5 0 1W 3888 4822 117 10833 10kΩ 1 0 1W 3889 4822 051 20471 470Ω 5 0 1W 3890 4822 051 10102 1kΩ 2 0 25W 3891 4822 051 10102 1kΩ 2 0 25W RESISTORS 3892 4822 051 20471 470Ω 5 0 1W 3893 4822 051 20471 470Ω 5 0 1W 3894 4822 051 20101 100Ω 5 0 1W 3895 4822 051 20159 15Ω 5 0 1W 3897 4822 051 20101 100Ω 5 0 1W 3898 4822 117 11503 220Ω 5 0 1W 3899 4822 051 20101 100Ω 5 0 1W 3900 4822 051 20823 82kΩ ...

Страница 16: ...B 7812 5322 130 60159 BC846B 7874 5322 130 60159 BC846B 7875 5322 130 60159 BC846B INTEGRATED CIRCUITS 7801 9352 622 36118 TZA1025T V2 HF Amplifier 7805 4822 209 33165 TDA1308T N1 OPAMP 7806 4822 209 32852 TDA7073A N2 Motor driver 7807 4822 209 32852 TDA7073A N2 Motor driver 7871 4822 209 32852 TDA7073A N2 Motor driver 7873 5322 209 11306 HEF4094BT Shift register 7876 4822 209 16143 LC89170M CD TE...

Страница 17: ...ubrication Instructions 10 4 ESD Warnings 10 6 Blockdiagram 10 7 Wiring 10 8 Circuit Diagram part1 10 9 Component Layout 10 10 Circuit Diagram part2 10 11 Exploded View 10 12 Mechanical Partslist 10 13 Electrical Partslist 10 15 3CDC99 DS Module 3 Disc Carousel Changer ...

Страница 18: ...Dismantling of Drawer A Pull drawer outwards B Unlock drawer with screwdriver C Lift drawer to demount from chassis Dismantling of Flex Plate D Lift plate to unlock pin from bottom plate E Move plate inwards to demount from bottom plate ...

Страница 19: ... mechanism by finger to move CD drive support in upper position as shown in picture below A 5 Dismantle CD drive support pos 95 B 6 Replace CD drive pos 100 The wire tree of JST connector has to be desoldered and resoldered on the new CD drive again 10 3 Servicing Hints A B Mounting of Carousel 1 Turn gearwheel pos 42 of disc change mechanism by finger until CD drive is in play position 2 Mount ca...

Страница 20: ...n Instructions Grease Grease inside grove Grease on top of rib Grease Grease on top of highest ring Grease on four rectangular surfaces Grease inside groves Grease on slide Grease on four profile groves CHASSIS DRAWER ...

Страница 21: ...10 5 Grease DRAWER MECHANISM DISC CHANGE MECHANISM Grease Grease Grease on first and last tooth Grease on first and last tooth Use only grease Polylub GLY 801 service codenumber 4822 390 10136 ...

Страница 22: ...ove soldered short circuit from Laserunit see below CHARGED CAPACITORS ON THE SERVO BOARD MAY DAMAGE THE CD DRIVE ELECTRONICS WHEN CONNECTING A NEW CD MECHANISM THAT S WHY BESIDES THE SAFETY MEASURES LIKE SWITCH OFF POWER SUPPLY ESD PROTECTION ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MUST BE TAKEN BY THE REPAIR TECHNICIAN WARNING fig 1 Attention The laser diode of this CD drive is protected against ESD by a solder join...

Страница 23: ... LASER MONITOR DIODE TURNTABLE MOTOR DISC CD MECHANISM FOCUS MOTOR RADIAL MOTOR SLEDGE MOTOR MOTOR TURNTABLE PHOTODIODE HF AMPLIFIER LOADER CONTROL PCB EN1 DATA STB SHR_CL SICL SILD PORE 7878 MC78L05ACP 7875 7801 3 3V CD LEFT 7810 7877 CD RIGHT Laser Control HF AMPLIFIER TZA1024 TZA1025 55 54 56 38 13 18 20 21 23 2 1 5 3 27 29 26 28 10 12 14 13 SWITCH INFO 17 5 9 7 16 15 16 42 40 39 5 17 21 52 57 ...

Страница 24: ...10 8 Wiring of CD Drive Pict 1 Pict 2 8005 ...

Страница 25: ... 120R 2838 10u 2856 27p 3857 2823 47p 2842 2n2 33R 470R 3853 47u 2839 2844 270p 3866 10K 3 3V 470R 3873 3848 3800 56K 100K 2869 47n 5V MON 4 PWRON 7 RFEQO 10 RFFB 9 RGADJ 14 VCC2 13 VCCL 2 TZA1024 7801 CDRW 11 CFIL 3 CMFB 8 DIN 5 EQSEL 12 6 GND LD 1 22K 3826 3728 10n 2859 1K 3825 4K7 22K 2807 330p 3709 3 3V 3846 33K 10V 3 3V 3806 10K 100R 3897 22K 3828 2892 4n7 180p 2855 470p 2802 3844 4K7 47u 3 3...

Страница 26: ...H2 3715 H3 3716 A2 3718 C5 3728 B5 3730 B5 3731 C5 3760 B3 3761 B3 3762 B3 3763 C4 3764 C2 3766 B3 3768 J4 3769 J4 3800 D2 3801 D2 3802 D3 3803 D2 3805 D2 3806 D2 3807 D2 3808 D2 3809 D5 3811 D2 3812 G4 3814 D2 3815 D1 3816 E5 3817 E4 3819 B5 3820 E2 3821 E2 3822 E3 3823 F1 3824 F1 3825 G3 3826 E4 3827 E3 3828 F4 3831 C2 3832 A2 3833 F2 3834 F2 3835 H4 3837 E5 3838 D5 3839 E5 3840 E5 3841 E5 3842 ...

Страница 27: ... 22 23 3 4 5 6 7 8 1805 1 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 GNDA 22u 2858 10K 470R 3893 10K 3714 3888 22u 2860 3 3V 22n 2875 470R 3706 4U7 5805 2830 10n 2872 47n 1K 3761 1 2 DIPMATE 1878 1 2 1876 DIPMATE 2863 220u 7878 47n 2876 3 3V GNDA 9 Os 10 STR 1 VDD 16 VSS 8 7873 CP 3 D 2 15 O0 4 5 O1 O2 6 O3 7 O4 14 13 O5 O6 12 O7 11 GNDA HEF4094BP 22u 3875 10K 2861 3872 3700 10K 1 EXCK GND 7 MCK 5 SBSO 2 SCLK SCLK 11 S...

Страница 28: ...10 12 10 12 98 97 98 97 98 96 98 96 108 106 107 105 23 123 24 21 54 60 25 115 22 100 95 6x 61 82 80 73 74 70 81 83 84 POS 60 48 39 35 38 45 43 50 51 42 52 44 53 40 41 47 46 26 POS 25 ...

Страница 29: ...ACKET TUMBLER 0023 4822 492 11721 SPRING 0024 4822 492 11721 SPRING 0038 4822 502 12548 SCREW M2 6x3 5 0039 4822 502 12548 SCREW M2 6X3 5 0040 4822 463 11237 SLIDE 0041 4822 522 10509 CONTROL DISC 0042 4822 522 10492 GEAR WHEEL 0043 4822 528 10937 PULLEY 0044 4822 522 10493 IDLER WHEEL 0045 4822 358 10115 BELT 0046 4822 466 10735 ECCENTRIC GEAR WHEEL 0050 4822 532 12364 WASHER 0051 4822 532 12364 ...

Страница 30: ...SHER 0084 4822 532 12364 WASHER 0095 4822 404 10985 SUPPORT VAM 0096 4822 529 10387 RUBBER DAMPER CD DRIVE FRONT 0097 4822 529 10387 RUBBER DAMPER CD DRIVE FRONT 0100 9305 022 30201 VAM2202 01 0115 4822 466 10736 CAROUSEL 0117 4822 532 12365 BUSH DRAWER 0123 4822 402 11237 SWITCH BRACKET 0125 4822 401 11708 DISC CLAMP VAM DRIVE 3CDC 10 14 9 8 3 12 13 10 2 14 7 4 6 5 MECHANICAL PARTSLIST 3CDC 99 MO...

Страница 31: ... 50V 2861 4822 124 41596 22µF 20 50V 2862 4822 124 11912 220µF 20 6 3V CAPACITORS 2863 4822 124 11912 220µF 20 6 3V 2865 4822 126 12882 100nF 20 50V 2869 4822 126 12785 47nF 20 50V 2872 4822 126 12785 47nF 20 50V 2873 4822 124 12233 47µF 20 25V 2875 4822 126 11585 22nF 20 50V 2876 4822 126 12785 47nF 20 50V 2877 4822 122 33848 47pF 5 50V 2878 4822 122 10466 220pF 10 50V 2879 4822 126 12785 47nF 20...

Страница 32: ... 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3872 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3873 4822 116 83883 470Ω 5 0 16W 3874 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3875 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3876 4822 116 52234 100kΩ 5 0 5W 3877 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3878 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3879 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3880 4822 116 52219 330Ω 5 0 5W 3881 4822 050 21003 10kΩ 2 0 25W 3882 4822 116 83884 47kΩ 5 0 16W 3883 4822...

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