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Why Tube Gain Stages?

The stupid answer is the name on the unit is "Manley Labs" and that
is what we do. Unlike a current trend, we do not use tubes for THD,
clipping character, cool marketing buzz-words, or plagiarism. We
began building tube gear because we preferred the sound when it
was un-fashionable and re-introduced these glowing gain bottles to
both the hi-fi and studio communities when there was virtually no
fresh  tube designs available. We also stress that, its not just the
tubes, but the way they are used. The sound of a piece of gear is due
to many design details and many of the components - always has.

In the Massive Passive, the tube gain stages are new designs
developed for this unit. We try to use minimalist techniques where
ever possible and use the appropriate technology for the purpose.
Simple vacuum tube circuits can excel for medium gain voltage
amplifiers and high headroom output stages. A simple tube stage
offers better linearity than an equally simple transistor circuit.
Transistors have a  logarithmic transfer curve and are essentially
current devices. Transistor circuits are typically built with huge
excess gain which is used for more feedback in order to tame the
linearity (THD) but this feedback seems to cause audible transient
problems and is directly responsible for the harsh clipping character.
Op-amps, which can be less noisy and lower THD, are complex
circuits which force music through many transistors and may also
bring crossover distortion artifacts and headroom issues into play.
The only alternative would have been for the Massivo to use FET /
MOSFET  high voltage discrete circuits. Someday, we may introduce
a version like this but don't phone us up every month asking if we are
working on it. We'll let you know.

We use an exceptional op-amp/discrete circuit for the input buffer
in order to drive the 150 ohm (worst case) EQ circuit. Not an
appropriate place for tubes. The first design used a transformer (3:1)
for impedance conversion but it had a 10 dB voltage drop and thus
10 dB more noise. The new input circuit isolates input loading and
allows the tube circuits to be better optimised. We use two similar
all-tube gain stages per channel for  interstage and output line drivers
which together cancels some distortion. The output is capable of
driving up to +37 dBu! This stage also uses a separate winding on
the output transformer (also custom designed) for a little negative
feedback to allow lower output impedances and minimal transformer
coloration. In other words, because we expect some engineers
wanting to boost 20 dB at 100 Hz occasionally, the circuits had to
be capable of cleanly delivering it (regardless if the next piece in the
chain can deal with it). We used tubes for more headroom (300 volt
power supply) rather than more clipping. Generally too, tube circuits
clip a little smoother than mega-negative feedback IC circuits.

Some may question "tube reliability" but most major studios have
many 30 or 40 year old tube compressors and EQs running every day
and some with the original tubes. Not many 15 or 20 year old
transistor units are still working or wanted. Tubes will eventually
burn out  (so do transistors), however, usually you can easily get the
type of tube used 30 years ago and you won't need a soldering iron,
schematic or technician. Your parents probably used to "fix" the old
TV. The bottom line is, good gear tends to be more reliable, and if
a problem develops, is both easy to fix, and carries great factory
support. We understand that it sometimes involves your professional
livelihood and this is indeed often serious and you depend on it. If
this is the case, consider getting a few spare tubes which covers
90%+  of emergencies with immediate fixes. Our service department
has a great reputation with phone support and fast turn-arounds too.

Phase Shift?

Deadly topic. This is probably the most misunderstood term floating
about in the mixing community. Lots of people blame or name phase
shift for just about any audio problem that doesn't sound like typical
distortion. We ask that you try to approach this subject with an open
mind and forget what you may have heard about phase for now.This
is not to be confused with "time alignment" as used in speakers, or
the "phase" buttons on the console and multi-mic problems.

First - all analog EQs have phase shift and that the amount is directly
related to the "shape" of the EQ curve. Most digital EQs too. In fact,
one could have 3 analog EQs, 3 digital EQs, and an "acoustic
equivilant", and a passive EQ, each with the same EQ shape, and
ALL will have the same phase shift characteristics. This is a law, a
fact and not really a problem. The two exceptions are: digital EQs
with additional algorithms designed to "restore" the phase, and a
rare family of digital EQs called FIR filters based on FFT techniques.

Second - Opinions abound that an EQ's phase shift should fall within
certain simple parameters particularly by engineers who have
designed unpopular EQs. The Massive Passive has more phase shift
than most in the filters and shelfs and leans towards less in the bells.
Does this correspond to an inferior EQ? Judge for yourself.

Third - Many people use the word "phase shift" to describe a nasty
quality that some old EQs have and also blame inductors for this. Its
not phase shift. Some inductor based EQs use inductors that are too
small, tend to saturate way too easily, and create an unpleasant
distortion. The Massivo (of course) uses massive inductors (compared
to the typical type) which were chosen through listening tests. In fact
we use several different sizes in different parts of the circuit based
on experiments as to which size combined the right electrical
characteristics and "sounded best". The other very audible quality
people confuse with phase shift is "ringing". Ringing is just a few
steps under oscillating and is mostly related to narrow Qs. It is more
accurately described as a time based problem than  phase shift and
is far easier to hear than phase shift. For our purposes, in this circuit,
these inductors have no more phase shift or ringing than a capacitor.

Fourth - A given EQ "shape" should have a given phase shift, group
delay and impulse response. There also exist easy circuits that
produce phase shift without a significant change in frequency
response. These are generally called "all-pass networks" and are
usually difficult to hear by themselves. You may have experienced
a worse case scenario if you have ever  listened to a "phase-shifter"
with the "blend" set to 100% (so that none of the source was mixed
in) and the modulation to zero. Sounded un-effected, didn't it, and
that may have been over 1000 degrees of phase shift. Group delay
and impulse response describe the signal in time rather than frequency
and are just different ways of describing phase shift. Some research
shows these effects are audible and some not. The Massive Passive
tends to show that group delay in the mids is more audible than
towards the edges of the spectrum and there may be interesting
exceptions to generalities and conventional wisdoms. The audible
differences between EQs seems to have more to do with Q, distortions,
headroom and topology than with phase shift.

Fifth - Phase Shift is not as important as functionality. For example,
we chose very steep slopes for some of the filters because we
strongly believe the "job" of a filter is to remove garbage while
minimally affecting the desired signal. A gentler slope would have
brought less phase shift but would not have removed as much crap.

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Страница 2: ...RAMETRIC 10 WHY PASSIVE WHY PARALLEL 11 PHASE SHIFT WHY TUBES 12 CURVES 13 to16 TUBE LOCATIONS ETC 17 18 EQUALIZING EQUALIZERS GENERAL 19 EQUALIZER TECHNIQUES 20 to 24 TRANSLATIONS 25 TROUBLESHOOTING 26 27 MAINS CONNECTIONS 28 SPECIFICATIONS 29 WARRANTY 30 WARRANTY REGISTRATION 31 APPENDIX 1 EXAMPLE SETTINGS 32 APPENDIX 1 TEMPLATE FOR STORING SETTINGS 33 ...

Страница 3: ...ght the right piece The Massive Passive is intended as an EQ platform and in the future should offer some interesting custom options At some point we expect to offer other EQ cards that can replace some of the passive cards for particular needs and special applications GENERAL NOTES LOCATION VENTILATION The Manley MASSIVE PASSIVE must be installed in a stable location with ample ventilation It is ...

Страница 4: ...to look if you get a hum Make sure the strap hasn t fallen off or use a piece of wire to join the terminals The CIRCUIT Ground is the internal audio ground including the 1 4 jack sleeves The CHASSIS Ground is the metal chassis third pin electrical ground and pin 1 of the XLRs Some studios use special grounding practices and these terminals are meant to make it easy to hook up this unit for a wide ...

Страница 5: ...but with drastic EQ this kind of comparison is of little use The range is small to allow easier and finer adjustments 4 Low Pass Filters They pass lows and chop highs There is a separate filter for each switch setting and they only share the switch and one resistor The filters are entirely passive and inserted between the boost sections and cut sections The 18kHz filter is probably most useful for...

Страница 6: ...12K say for 10 dB which provides a few gentle gradual steps BTW the maximum boost in the example is 10 dB not 14 and occurs around 20 kHz You maynoticethatasyouswitchbetweenbellandshelftheamountof grab mayseemtobelessinshelf Notreally botharecapable of 20 db boosts but towards the extremes that boost may be sub sonic or super sonic because we spec the shelf at the 1 2 way point 10 dB not the 3 dB ...

Страница 7: ...a Bandwidth control that seems to push the frequencylower and at12 00essentiallyflattenstheEQat22Hz SowechangedtheBandwidthcontrolforthosetwolowest frequencies so that it acts as a HP filter as you turn it CW and tends to prevent boosting excessive sub sonic frequencies To our ears it seems to tighten up the shelf and removes some of the sloppy looseness associated with those sub sonics The 16kHz ...

Страница 8: ...s quite deliberate Hopefully it sounds better sweeter more musical and it complements your console EQs We saw little need for yet another variation of the standard parametric with only subtle sonic differences We suggest using the Massive Passive before tape for the bulk of the EQ tasks and then using the console EQs for some fine tweaking and where narrow Q touch ups like notches are needed The M...

Страница 9: ...ept coming up We started with these goals modern parametric like operation passive tone techniques through out and features different from anything currently available and most importantly it had to sound spectacular The Super Pultec Manley Labs has been building a few versions of the Pultec style EQs for many years as well as an updated version of the EQ 500 another vintage EQ These are classic p...

Страница 10: ...nted pots Mechanical center and electrical center are rarely the same The Passive Parametric For years we had been getting requests for a Manley parametric equalizer but it looked daunting because every parametric we knew of used many op amps and a conventional parametric would be very impractical to do with tubes Not impossible but it might take upwards of a dozen tubes per channel A hybrid desig...

Страница 11: ...inductorspacing togetsomehum buckingactionbutavoidmagneticcoupling with careful positioning Some kinds of interaction suck and some are beneficial Why Passive If you hate tech talk just skip this section it has to do with electronic parts and circuits and design philosophy AllEQsusecapacitors Theyareveryeasytouse predictible cheap and simple Some sound slightly better than others Inductors do almo...

Страница 12: ... few spare tubes which covers 90 ofemergencieswithimmediatefixes Ourservicedepartment has a great reputation with phone support and fast turn arounds too Phase Shift Deadlytopic Thisisprobablythemostmisunderstoodtermfloating aboutinthemixingcommunity Lotsofpeopleblameornamephase shift for just about any audio problem that doesn t sound like typical distortion We ask that you try to approach this s...

Страница 13: ... Narrow Bandwidth just for reference 22 Hz Shelf Wide Bandwidth 22 Hz Shelf Narrow Bandwidth 33 Hz Shelf Wide Bandwidth 33 Hz Shelf Medium Bandwidth 22Hz and 33Hz are different shelves when the Bandwidth is Narrow The top graph is for the other 20 Low shelves LOW SHELF CURVES Just like most EQs a 100Hz low shelf doesn t reach max until about 10 Hz 13 ...

Страница 14: ...HELF BOOSTING THE HALF WAY 10 dB POINT HAS SHIFTED TO 50 Hz THESE CURVES SHOW ONE OF THE IDEOSYNCRACIES AND IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A LF BOOST TO SOUND AS IF IT HAS LESS LOWS DEPENDING ON THE FREQUENCY AND INSTRUMENT SIMILAR CURVES APPLY TO THE HIGH SHELVES AND PARTICULARLY 10K AND 12K CAN BE STRANGE WHEN THE BW IS NARROW THIS IS ABOUT 1 5 DB AT 300 Hz AND NEGLIGIBLE MORE 100Hz SHELVES SHOWING BOOST AN...

Страница 15: ...Bandwidth Bandwidth at 12 00 Narrow Bandwidth dB set at max 20 dB and changing the Bandwidth Max Boost Narrow Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Narrow Bandwidth Max Boost Wide Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Wide Bandwidth Changing dB and Changing Bandwidth TYPICAL BELL CURVES 15 ...

Страница 16: ...LOW PASS FILTERS HIGH PASS FILTERS 1 5 dB bump on the 6K 7 5K and 9K Filters 16 ...

Страница 17: ... 29 4 Changing the 1 4 phone jacks for 10dBv levels The Massive Passive is factory wired for professional 4dBu levels for both all of the XLR and 1 4 phone jacks This procedure only changes the 1 4 jacks not the XLRs Do not assume that balanced implies 4dBu levels or that unbalanced implies 10dBv consumer levels Balanced only means that there are 3 wires in the cable and that 2 of these wires carr...

Страница 18: ...ut the card Once the ribbon is free at the EQ card end unscrew the two allen keys holding the oblong black anodized panel Gently pull the card towards you being sure the ribbon cable is not catching on any of the EQ card components To return an EQ card into its slot do the procedure in reverse The only difference is that you need to watch the back of the card and align the 14 pins into the connect...

Страница 19: ...f prices Almost all have limitations either in boost cut range Q range frequency range or overlap and audio performance Now we have a new breed of digital parametrics that have few limitations otherthandoesitactuallysoundgoodandisitavailable for your format and is it stable and bug free and is it a hassle to get a signal in and out of it Within their realm some are getting good Passive EQs have co...

Страница 20: ...ll be to finesse your available EQ Hit Record finesse it in the mix More important to get the vibe than to burn out the band doing sound checks and tweaks If mic choice is a mystery you might want to research some Steve Albini or George Massenburg interviews Rather than guess wrong some engineers compare 3 or 4 probable choices Some choose the mic that minimizes EQing later some hear the mic s tra...

Страница 21: ...fferent individual units like mics like rooms consoles engineers The last problem was that they only had a few weeks to shout at each other Avoidthattechnique Yougottabecreative playitbyear use your own variation if it works out that way this time Only the final result counts There are many ways to get a killer sound and too damnfewthatworkeverytime Youmayknowmostofthisalready General Suggestions ...

Страница 22: ...ussion There are two big tricks The first is don t trust VU meters usepeakmetersanddon tgettooclosetofullscale Thekey word is percussion and the peaks or transients are very short and impressively hot When in doubt turn it down Actually when in doubt listen to a short bit recorded then turn it down if it was crunchy The second trick is to EQ these tracks in the mix not soloed We tend to make thing...

Страница 23: ...Do you understand the difference its not just attitude 3 Therestofthegearinmajormasteringhousesisalsosoimportant that cost is no object The engineers regularly shoot out new gearandwillalwaysbuyifitISbetter Inapromasteringhousethere are no weak links in the chain and no semi pro gear 4 There isn t a single processing unit that is the key but more like a combination of several that are mostly sligh...

Страница 24: ...ssive The Circuit The Massive Passive is a not a particularly complicated circuit The audio comes in is converted from balanced to unbalanced and DC servo d and given enough power a few watts to drive the EQ and output in bypass on the two vertical boards that the 1 4 jacks are mounted on It uses a BB OPA2604 op amp and a complementary pair of medium current transistors richly biased into near cla...

Страница 25: ...4700 Experiment with the bandwidths and frequency selects Try adding the 220 and 6K filters last rather than first Attack usually the upper mids but depends on the instrument For example on drums and bass for more attack try boosting 2200 Hz for piano try 4700 or 5600 Limiters usually remove some of these transient heavy areas and may seem to dull the attack The cure for that is longer attack time...

Страница 26: ...t too many years ago even your parents could fix their own stuff by taking a bag of tubes down to the corner and checking the tubes on a tube tester but these testers are hard to find today A visual inspection can usually spot a bad tube just as well Be careful there are some high voltages inside the chassis and tubes can get pretty warm but if you can replace a light bulb you should be able to cr...

Страница 27: ...while we get a call from a client with a digital studio with confusion about levels They usually start out by using the digital oscillator from their workstation and finding pegged VU meters the first place they look and they know it can t be the workstation Even a 6 level from their system pegs the meters Some of you know already what s going on That 6 level is referenced to digital full scale an...

Страница 28: ...lug proceed as follows The wire which is coloured GREEN YELLOW must be connected to the terminal in the plug which is marked by the letter E or by the safety earth symbol or coloured GREEN or GREEN and YELLOW The wire which is coloured BLUE must be connected to the terminal in the plug which is marked by the letter N or coloured BLACK The wire which is coloured BROWN must be connected to the termi...

Страница 29: ...Bm 85 dB A Weight ref to 4 dBm Signal to Noise 120 dB typical A Weight ref to 37 dBm Input Impedance 20 K ohms Output Impedance 150 ohms Power Consumption 72 watts 600 mA 115VAC Fuse 2 Amp Slo Blo 120VAC 1 Amp Slo Blo 240VAC Size 3U 19 x 5 25 x 10 Actual Weight 21 Lbs Shipping Weight 27 Lbs MANLEY MASSIVE PASSIVE STEREO TUBE EQUALIZER preliminary specs subject to change BLOCK DIAGRAM SHOWING SIGNA...

Страница 30: ...tories will not pay for express or overnight freight service nor will Manley Laboratories pay for shipments to locations outside the USA Charges for unauthorized service and transportation costs are not reimbursable under this warranty and all warrantees express or implied become null and void where the product has been damaged by misuse accident neglect modification tampering or unauthorized alte...

Страница 31: ...rranty and registration Thank you again for choosing Manley gear and reading all the way through The Owner s Manual We really mean that sincerely the bit about thanking you for choosing our gear THANK YOU MODEL _______________ SERIAL __________________ PURCHASE DATE ______________ SUPPLIER ______________________ PLEASE DETACH THIS PORTION AND SEND IT TO MANLEY LABORATORIES MODEL _______________ SE...

Страница 32: ... 7K5 22 39 68 120 220 18K 0 0 POWER 9K OFF 6K 7K5 OFF 9K 18K 12K OFF OFF 220 120 68 39 22 BOOST CUT GAIN 6K LOW PASS HIGH PASS SHELF BELL 220 10K 82 3K9 22 1K 560 27K BELL SHELF CUT OUT BOOST BOOST OUT CUT SHELF BELL BELL SHELF CUT OUT BOOST OUT IN IN 4 6 6 4 BELL CUT OUT SHELF BOOST 560 27K BELL CUT OUT BOOST 220 10K BELL CUT OUT BOOST 82 3K9 CUT BELL OUT SHELF 22 1K BOOST This Preset is a great ...

Страница 33: ...RING MASSIVE PASSIVE SETTINGS 1K2 1K8 27K 12K 8K2 5K6 3K9 2K7 1K8 1K2 820 560 220 330 470 680 1K 1K5 2K2 3K3 4K7 6K8 10K FREQUENCY FREQUENCY 2K7 FREQUENCY 3K9 820 560 390 270 180 120 82 FREQUENCY 680 1K 470 330 220 150 68 47 33 22 100 100 22 33 47 68 150 220 330 470 1K 680 FREQUENCY 82 120 180 270 390 560 820 3K9 FREQUENCY 2K7 FREQUENCY FREQUENCY 10K 6K8 4K7 3K3 2K2 1K5 1K 470 330 220 560 820 1K2 ...

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