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GETTING DISTORTION WHEN WE BOOST A LOT

. No doubt. The Mini Massive by itself should have enough

headroom so that mega-boosts won't cause clipping in it, however, it can push out about  +30dBv, 6 or 8 dB  more than most
gear can accept without clipping. You're gonna have to turn something down, whether it is the signal feeding the EQ, the "Gain
Trims" on the EQ's front panel or the input levels of the next piece. That last option may not help if there is any op-amps before
its own volume control and unfortunately that is pretty common.

THE GAIN SEEMS OUT OF CALIBRATION

 - Wait a bit and see if it just needs to warm up. There are only two trimmers

inside and they are for adjusting the gain of the two channels up or down a few dB. More than that and you either have a bad
cable or the back panel I/O switch needs to be in another position.

Once in a while we get a call from a client with a "digital studio" with confusion about levels. They usually start out by using
the digital oscillator from their workstation and finding pegged VU meters the first place they look and they know it can't be
the workstation. Even a -6 level  from their system pegs the meters. Some of you know already what 's going on. That -6 level
is referenced to "digital full scale" and the computer might have 18 or 18.5 or 20 dB of headroom built in. That -6 level on
the oscillator is actually a real world 12 or +14 and those VU meters don't really go much further than +3. There are
a few standards and plenty of exceptions. One standard is that normal (non-broadcast) VU meters are calibrated for 0VU =
+4 dBm =1.228 volts into 600 ohms (broadcast is som8dBm). Another standard is that CDs have a zero analog
reference that is -14 dB from digital full scale or maximum. This allows sufficient peak headroom for mixed material but would
be a bad standard for individual tracks because they would likely distort frequently. This is why digital workstations use higher
references like 18 and 20 - to allow for peaks on individual sounds. It may be too much in some cases and too little in others.
Add two other sources of confusion. Peak meters and VU meters will almost never agree - they are not supposed to. A peak
meter is intended to show the maximum level that can be recorded to a given medium. VU meters were designed to show how
loud we will likely hear a sound and help set record levels to analog tape. By help, we mean that they can be only used as a
guide combined with  experience. They are kinda slow. Bright percussion may want to be recorded at - 10 on a VU for analog
tape to be clean but a digital recording using a good peak meter should make the meter read as high as possible without an
"over". Here is the second confusion: There aren't many good peak meters. Almost all DATs have strange peak meters that
do not agree with another company's DAT. One cannot trust them to truly indicate peaks or overs. Outboard digital peak meters
(with switchable peak hold) that indicate overs as 3 or 4 consecutive samples at either Full Scale Digital (FSD) are the best.
They won't agree with VU meters or Average meters or BBC Peak Programme (PPM) meters either. Each is a different animal
for different uses. When in doubt, use the recorder's meters when recording - they "should" be set up and proper for that
medium. Also important - if your DAC has gain trims, and these trims are "out" it can cause distortion, confusion, and a variety
of mis-matches. If you don't have calibration tapes or sources - get them, and if you do have them - learn how to use them, and
definately use them. Don't guess, especially if you suspect a significant problem. This is not the type of thing "phone support"
is usually good at finding. We have seen guys spend thousands on new gear only to find out a little screwdriver trim would
have solved their problems.

We also expect to get calls from people who can't hear any difference when they change the "Transformer Switch" or the
"Input Output Level Switch" on the back panel. Unlike plug-ins, real analog equipment may have switches that do very subtle
things, especially if those switches happen to be on the back panel. Of course, many people these days expect switching in
a transformer "SHOULD" be a major effect, because after all, several companies offer 4 products that are really one product
with 4 different transformers available. Maybe 3 of those transformers are questionable, maybe all 4. A good transformer
properly used should be near inaudible and maybe just and expensive and weighty component to accomplish a particular
function. Contrary to a lot of  marketing hype, it really isn't all that challenging to design or purchase a flawed transformer
or mis-use it. The "big secret" for vintage warmth is low permeability laminations (like steel or other commonly available
materials) which forces bigger transformers. The downside is that the more obvious and identifyible a sonic color becomes
the more it becomes a one trick pony, and less universally useful. We should keep in mind that designers of vintage gear were
not aiming for funky colors to warm up digital - they were trying to build good sounding gear that did minimal damage. So
the back panel switches are in the tradition of vintage pro gear, meant to be subtle and not obvious in-your-face audio-damage.

OK, so if your Mini Massive is not heating up your cold digital tracks while bands are bypassed, not sounding like a vintage
warmth generator or some functions seem more subtle than you expected, it is not broken. On the other hand, if you can't find
any setting that doesn't make the sound you are working on at least a bit better, then it may be broken. In fact, the usual problem
is not finding one setting but finding several good possibilities and needing to choose just one. If you are having that problem,
the Mini Massive is probably not broken.

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Содержание Langevin MINI MASSIVE STEREO EQUALIZER

Страница 1: ... MASSIVE STEREO EQ MANLEY LABORATORIES INC 13880 MAGNOLIA AVE CHINO CA 91710 TEL 909 627 4256 FAX 909 628 2482 http www manleylabs com email emanley manleylabs com email service manleylabs com Rev MSMPXxxxx MANLEY LABORATORIES INC ...

Страница 2: ...RAMETRIC 10 WHY PASSIVE WHY PARALLEL 11 PHASE SHIFT WHY TUBES 12 CURVES 13 to16 TUBE LOCATIONS ETC 17 18 EQUALIZING EQUALIZERS GENERAL 19 EQUALIZER TECHNIQUES 20 to 24 TRANSLATIONS 25 TROUBLESHOOTING 26 27 MAINS CONNECTIONS 28 SPECIFICATIONS 29 WARRANTY 30 WARRANTY REGISTRATION 31 APPENDIX 1 EXAMPLE SETTINGS 32 APPENDIX 1 TEMPLATE FOR STORING SETTINGS 33 ...

Страница 3: ...us a good analog parametric a familiar vintage EQ plus a few good digital EQs including a linear phase type Some sections of this manual have been directly borrowed from the Massive Passive manual and some parts are fresh and only pertain to the Mini Massive As usual the manual is mostly just train of thought random ramblings from one engineer to another and can be read with a grain of salt or a s...

Страница 4: ...round Pin 2 is hot or and Pin 3 is low or These outputs are not the typical pseudo balanced or cross coupled type which automatically compensate for unbalanced inputs but are often unstable and may significantly reduce hum rejection These outputs maintain a constant and very balanced output impedance regardless of loading conditions 8 Transformer Option Switch Mini Massives may have the Transforme...

Страница 5: ...r dB controls which allow you to just boost or cut a little bit if desired filters never have these controls The High band also has a special setting labelled BELL 2 that only operates on the 4 highest frequencies It simply narrows the Q for those 4 highest frequencies This can be useful for controlling the apparent air or sweetness of the extreme highs One may notice the ovals marked around the 4...

Страница 6: ...ple associate a wide bell on conventional EQs with more energy boost or cut and at first impression the Massivo seems to work backward compared with that and narrow bandwidths give more drastic results On the Massive Passive a narrow bandwidth bells will allow up to the full 20 dB of boost or cut and wide bandwidths significantly less at about 6 dB maximum In Shelf Modes the Bandwidth has a specia...

Страница 7: ...ike vocals and mastering 9 Of course the Mini will get compared to the Massive Passive which gets compared to vintage Pultecs and to Manley s Enhanced Pultec EQs so maybe a few words from the designer are appropriate First things first The vintage Pultec EQ section was designed by Western Electric and decades later Eugene Shenk added his gain stage and formed a company called Pulse Technologies to...

Страница 8: ...e for some situations and somewhat controlled dirt is appropriate for others Beware of getting the mind set that either goal is appropriate for every sound and every situation Like every house should be the same color There are many situations where one might want a processor or preamplifier that doesn t leave its thumbprint on the sound Typically mastering is one place for a transparent EQ especi...

Страница 9: ... if this is where digital technology is at its weakest or most immature for now However like yourselves we do use plug ins music programs etc and evaluate too many to name and we are keeping our ears and eyes open Of course some of you know that the we have contributed to some non Manley plug ins that are highly regarded Meanwhile progress continues and we are continuing to listen and maybe some d...

Страница 10: ...rted with these goals modern parametric like operation passive tone techniques through out and features different from anything currently available and it had to sound spectacular The Super Pultec Manley Labs has been building a few versions of the Pultec style EQs for many years as well as an updated version of the EQ 500 another vintage EQ These are classic passive EQs combined with Manley s own...

Страница 11: ...th center detented pots Mechanical center and electrical center are rarely the same The Passive Parametric For years we had been getting requests for a Manley parametric equalizer but it looked daunting because every parametric we knew of used many op amps and a conventional parametric would be very impractical to do with tubes Not impossible but it might take upwards of a dozen tubes per channel ...

Страница 12: ...to get some hum bucking action but avoid magnetic coupling with careful positioning Some kinds of interaction suck and some are beneficial Why Passive If you hate tech talk just skip this section it has to do with electronic parts and circuits and design philosophy AllEQsusecapacitors Theyareveryeasytouse predictible cheap and simple Some sound slightly better than others Inductors do almost the m...

Страница 13: ...ic Thisisprobablythemostmisunderstoodtermfloating aboutinthemixingcommunity Lotsofpeopleblameornamephase shift for just about any audio problem that doesn t sound like typical distortion We ask that you try to approach this subject with an open mind and forget what you may have heard about phase for now This is not to be confused with time alignment as used in speakers or the phase buttons on the ...

Страница 14: ...l Cut Narrow Bandwidth just for reference LOW SHELF CURVES Just like most EQs a 100Hz low shelf doesn t reach max until about 10 Hz 13 FREQUENCY RESPONSE BANDWIDTHSETTING AT1 1 00 LOWFREQSHEL VES 22 33 47 68arenew 20 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 d B r 20 50k 50 100 200 500 1k 2k 5k 10k 20k Hz 47Hz 100Hz 68Hz 22Hz 150Hz 33Hz ...

Страница 15: ...HELF BOOSTING THE HALF WAY 10 dB POINT HAS SHIFTED TO 50 Hz THESE CURVES SHOW ONE OF THE IDEOSYNCRACIES AND IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A LF BOOST TO SOUND AS IF IT HAS LESS LOWS DEPENDING ON THE FREQUENCY AND INSTRUMENT SIMILAR CURVES APPLY TO THE HIGH SHELVES AND PARTICULARLY 10K AND 12K CAN BE STRANGE WHEN THE BW IS NARROW THIS IS ABOUT 1 5 DB AT 300 Hz AND NEGLIGIBLE MORE 100Hz SHELVES SHOWING BOOST AN...

Страница 16: ...Bandwidth Bandwidth at 12 00 Narrow Bandwidth dB set at max 20 dB and changing the Bandwidth Max Boost Narrow Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Narrow Bandwidth Max Boost Wide Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Wide Bandwidth Changing dB and Changing Bandwidth TYPICAL BELL CURVES 15 ...

Страница 17: ...al Manley Langevin dealers are capable of making the change if needed Part of the reason we did this is to discourage some grey market sales However the following page does show this section of the board in detail and what traces need to be well cut and where jumpers need to be soldered for various AC line voltages 4 Adjusting unity gain There are only two trim pots in the Mini Massive and they ar...

Страница 18: ... 9 54 4 0 5 0 2 47 3 2 5 0 23 47 0 3 0 5 0 23 42 3 54 44 02 4 2 5 4 2 AC MAINS VOLTAGE SELECTION This may involve soldering jumpers and cutting of printed circuit board traces Danger There is a possibility of electric shock if power is connected and danger of damage to the Mini Massive if the procedure is done wrong This should only be done by a trained technician and ONLY ever be done with the po...

Страница 19: ...g in digital EQ with the same 3 predictable knobs per band as the analog EQs The only significant digital variation on the parametric concept has been the linear phase equalizers These are the first EQs ever including nature that can change the spectral shape and not change the phase response in turn Sometimes this can be appropriate or sound better this time on this sound and sometimes not Passiv...

Страница 20: ...l be to finesse your available EQ Hit Record finesse it in the mix More important to get the vibe than to burn out the band doing sound checks and tweaks If mic choice is a mystery you might want to research some Steve Albini or George Massenburg interviews Rather than guess wrong some engineers compare 3 or 4 probable choices Some choose the mic that minimizes EQing later some hear the mic s tran...

Страница 21: ...ividual units like mics like rooms consoles engineers The last problem was that they only had a few weeks to shout at each other Avoidthattechnique Yougottabecreative playitbyear use your own variation if it works out that way this time Only the final result counts There are many ways to get a killer sound and too damnfewthatworkeverytime Youmayknowmostofthisalready General Suggestions If you are ...

Страница 22: ...ussion There are two big tricks The first is don t trust VU meters usepeakmetersanddon tgettooclosetofullscale Thekey word is percussion and the peaks or transients are very short and impressively hot When in doubt turn it down Actually when in doubt listen to a short bit recorded then turn it down if it was crunchy The second trick is to EQ these tracks in the mix not soloed We tend to make thing...

Страница 23: ... understand the difference its not just attitude 3 Therestofthegearinmajormasteringhousesisalsosoimportant that cost is no object The engineers regularly shoot out new gearandwillalwaysbuyifitISbetter Inapromasteringhousethere are no weak links in the chain and no semi pro gear 4 There isn t a single processing unit that is the key but more like a combination of several that are mostly slightly ut...

Страница 24: ...s know what adventures you are having with the Mini Massive The Circuit The Mini Massive is a not a particularly complicated circuit The audio comes in is converted from balanced to unbalanced and DC servo d and given enough power a few watts to drive the EQ This stage uses one half of a potted module called a Rapture Amp It was developed in an exercise in R D to find the most transparent and inau...

Страница 25: ...ost forgiving and automatic method to interface given that the ouput is floating and either leg can be grounded without a loss of headroom and with less groundloop difficulties Technicalities aside the transformer also provides a bit of fashionable transformer warmth and richness or fatness The switch associated with the transformer option then allows transformerless direct outputs the transformer...

Страница 26: ...n a lot of freestyle sports but in audio it often runs the risk of painfully bright or screaming highs Telephone Sound First try deep shelf cuts using the two bands set approximately for 470 and 3900 Experiment with the bandwidths and frequency selects Try mixing in some distortion stomp box or guitar pedal Attack usually the upper mids but depends on the instrument For example on drums and bass f...

Страница 27: ... amps from left to right a pair at a time and verify whether one is not at all well retired early a little dead and arrange to swap the bad amp with your dealer or Manley Another possibility is a power supply problem because each side has its own power supply regulators Most likely the culprit is a fried 30 ohm 1 2 watt resistor that is used as a fuse and isolator in the power supply In fact there...

Страница 28: ...agreewithanothercompany sDAT Onecannottrustthemtotrulyindicatepeaksorovers Outboarddigitalpeakmeters with switchable peak hold that indicate overs as 3 or 4 consecutive samples at either Full Scale Digital FSD are the best Theywon tagreewithVUmetersorAveragemetersorBBCPeakProgramme PPM meterseither Eachisadifferentanimal for different uses When in doubt use the recorder s meters when recording the...

Страница 29: ...ug proceed as follows The wire which is coloured GREEN YELLOW must be connected to the terminal in the plug which is marked by the letter E or by the safety earth symbol or coloured GREEN or GREEN and YELLOW The wire which is coloured BLUE must be connected to the terminal in the plug which is marked by the letter N or coloured BLACK The wire which is coloured BROWN must be connected to the termin...

Страница 30: ...al ref to 30 dBm Input Impedance 20 K ohms Output Impedance 60 ohms transformer 300 ohms Power Consumption 15 watts 100 mA 115VAC Fuse 2 Amp Slo Blo 120VAC 1 Amp Slo Blo 240VAC Size 1U 19 x 1 75 x 10 Actual Weight 12 Lbs Shipping Weight 16 Lbs Number of Channels 2 Number of EQ sections Total 96 48 per channel Low Shelf 11 22 Hz 1 kHz Low Bell 11 High Shelf 11 560 Hz 27 kHz High Bell 11 High Bell2 ...

Страница 31: ...tories will not pay for express or overnight freight service nor will Manley Laboratories pay for shipments to locations outside the USA Charges for unauthorized service and transportation costs are not reimbursable under this warranty and all warrantees express or implied become null and void where the product has been damaged by misuse accident neglect modification tampering or unauthorized alte...

Страница 32: ...rranty and registration Thank you again for choosing Manley gear and reading all the way through The Owner s Manual We really mean that sincerely the bit about thanking you for choosing our gear THANK YOU MODEL _______________ SERIAL __________________ PURCHASE DATE ______________ SUPPLIER ______________________ PLEASE DETACH THIS PORTION AND SEND IT TO MANLEY LABORATORIES MODEL _______________ SE...

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