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Ideal Logic System -

Installation and Servicing

63 FaULT FINDINg ChaRT MaIN MENU

aLTERNaTINg ‘L’ and ‘1’

gO TO FRaME 64 -

FLOW TEMpERaTURE OVERhEaT LOCKOUT

or NO WaTER FLOW LOCKOUT

aLTERNaTINg ‘L’ and ‘2’

aLTERNaTINg ‘L’ and ‘6’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘1’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘2’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘3’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘4’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘5’

In order to assist fault finding the boiler has a 7 segment display. The key to the display codes is as follows:

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘6’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘7’

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘9’

aLTERNaTINg ‘c’ and ‘0’

gO TO FRaME 65 -

IgNITION LOCKOUT

gO TO FRaME 66 -

FaLsE FLaME LOCKOUT

gO TO FRaME 67 -

LOW WaTER pREssURE

gO TO FRaME 68 -

FLaME LOss

gO TO FRaME 69 -

FaN FaULT

gO TO FRaME 70 -

CONTROL/NO FLOW ThERMIsTOR FaULT

gO TO FRaME 71 -

RETURN ThERMIsTOR FaULT

gO TO FRaME 72 -

OUTsIDE sENsOR FaULT

LOW MaINs VOLTagE -

CONTaCT ELECTRICITy pROVIDER

pCB FaULT -

**REpLaCE pCB

REsET BOILER

NO Ch

NO hW

gO TO FRaME 74

gO TO FRaME 76

If PCB replaced as a spare ensure that the BCC (boiler chip card - small plastic part) is fitted to the PCB otherwise replace PCB.

aLTERNaTINg ‘L’ and ‘5’

5 REsETs WIThIN 15 MINs -

TURN pOWER OFF aND ON

REsET pROCEDURE

- To reset boiler, turn mode knob to reset position and immediately turn knob back to required setting.

aLTERNaTINg ‘c’ and ‘2’

gO TO FRaME 73 -

BCC FaULT (BOILER ChIp CaRD)

aLTERNaTINg ‘F’ and ‘0’

BCC (BOILER ChIp CaRD) NOT FITTED

sEE FRaME 51

Note that production boiler PCBs are factory pre-set to operate for boiler range and output, but when ordering Primary PCB as a

spare, an additional Boiler Chip Card (BCC) MUST also be purchased for your specific boiler range and output.

NO DIspLay

gO TO FRaME 75

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Страница 1: ...that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website www idealboilers com where you can download the rele...

Страница 2: ...2 Ideal Logic System Installation and Servicing...

Страница 3: ...vary specification without notice For any technical queries please ring the ideal installer helpline 01482 498704 NOTE BOILER RESET PROCEDURE To reset boiler turn mode knob to reset position and imme...

Страница 4: ...ies of destination PMS Maximum operating pressure of water C13 C33 C53 A room sealed appliance designed for connection via ducts to a horizontal or vertical terminal which admits fresh air to the burn...

Страница 5: ...7593 12 Inhibitor 12 Central heating mode Heat input to be calculated For assistance see Technical Helpline on the back page Page Burner operating pressure n a Central heating flow temp measure and r...

Страница 6: ...finding Safe Handling This boiler may require 2 or more operatives to move it to its installation site remove it from its packaging base and during movement into its installation location Manoeuvring...

Страница 7: ...uire Any direct connection of a control device not approved by Ideal Stelrad Group could invalidate the certification and the normal appliance warranty It could also infringe the Gas Safety Regulation...

Страница 8: ...on down to 25mm is allowable per installation otherwise BS5440 1 2008 dimensions must be followed Flue Terminal Positions Min Spacing 1 Directly below above or alongside an opening window air vent or...

Страница 9: ...valves are used the space heating temperature control over a living dining area or hallway having a heating requirement of at least 10 of the minimum boiler heat output should be achieved using a roo...

Страница 10: ...nimum front clearance when built in to a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm overall clearance is still required with the cupboard door open to allow for servicing Bottom clearance Bottom...

Страница 11: ...ed on the return to the boiler Guidance on vessel sizing is given in table opposite 5 Filling The system may be filled by the following method Through a temporary hose connection from a draw off tap s...

Страница 12: ...ing Systems If water treatment is used Ideal Stelrad Group recommend only the use of Scalemaster Gold 100 Fernox MB 1 Adey MC1 or Sentinel X100 inhibitors and associated water treatment products which...

Страница 13: ...NJECTOR 211 INJECTOR ASSEMBLY 214 VENTURI 215 FAN 217 BURNER 218 GASKET BURNER 219 SUMP CLEAN OUT COVER 223 FLUE MANIFOLD 224 FLUE MANIFOLD TOP 227 CLAMP RETAINING FLUE TURRET 228 HOSE CONDENSATE INTE...

Страница 14: ...ers Instructions E Wall Mounting Template located on internal protective packaging F Turret Clamp G Boiler Guarantee Registration Pack C A D F B E 205552 10138b G Boiler Guarantee HARDWARE PACK CONTEN...

Страница 15: ...removal 1 Loosen the 2 screws retaining the front panel 2 Pull the two spring clips downwards to disengage 3 Pull the front panel forward and upwards to remove 1 2 Note This flue system incorporates...

Страница 16: ...the wall Important Ensure that during the cutting operation masonry falling outside of the building does not cause damage or personal injury 1 Cut the flue hole preferably with a 5 core boring tool e...

Страница 17: ...n upper combustion sample point with a screw cap seal and a lower air sample point with an air stopper seal Ensure all caps seals are in place Additional Termination Kits available for use with these...

Страница 18: ...lue B Pack Horizontal Flue Terminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Horizontal Flue Terminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Cut 75mm Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum B Pack...

Страница 19: ...utlet terminal is upper most 4 Drill a 3 5mm hole through one of the 2 outer side holes in the outer flue section into the inserted outer flue as shown Take care not to pierce the inner plastic flue F...

Страница 20: ...om its mounting and will need to be refitted 9 When 1st mark is in line with the wall whilst holding the flue firmly push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd of the two marks is ju...

Страница 21: ...l must be made This is achieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Universal weather collar Accessories Flue Duct Extension Kits are available for flue lengths extending beyond 1m These packs...

Страница 22: ...nal positions where this could cause a nuisance should be avoided Minimum dimensions are shown below rf8392 Terminal Position Minimum Dimension Directly below an opening air brick windows etc 300 mm B...

Страница 23: ...in accordance with the in the instructions provided with the vertical connector kit 3 Secure the vertical connector by applying downward pressure on the connector 4 Position the clamp on the top face...

Страница 24: ...External Drain Connections The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should only be considered after exhausting all internal termination options as described previously An external system...

Страница 25: ...inimum connection height up to 3 storeys Soil vent stack 450 Boiler with 75mm sealed condensate trap Min 19mm Internal pipe Min 30mm Internal pipe Water weather proof insulation 75 Boilers without 75m...

Страница 26: ...rovide a comprssion joint on the end of the stub pipe This assists with pipe removal when servicing The discharge pipe should be positioned so that the discharge of water or steam cannot create a haza...

Страница 27: ...note that the grommets are blind and will require puncturing and secure using the clamp and screws provided in the hardware pack 6 Connect the switched live to the terminal block as shown Frost thermo...

Страница 28: ...re fitted then use the following guide Replacement wiring should comply with notes in Frame 24 1 Isolate the mains supply to the boiler 2 Remove the front panel Refer to Frame 35 3 Swing the control b...

Страница 29: ...X6 X8 2 1 2 3 sL E N L 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 5 4 1 2 3 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 205552 9950b Water Pressure Sensor Fan Return Thermistor Control No Flow Thermistor Fl...

Страница 30: ...nce has been checked adjusted and preset at the factory for operation on the gas type defined on the appliance data plate Do not adjust the air gas ratio valve Having checked That the boiler has been...

Страница 31: ...e 35 3 Check that the drain valve K is closed and that the CH isolating valve E and J are OPEN 4 Check that the electrical supply is OFF 5 Check that the boiler mode control knob B is off 6 Check that...

Страница 32: ...ner on indicator A B C D Knob Setting CH Flow Temp C F Max 80 176 Min 30 86 33 HANDING OVER 8 Loss of system water pressure Explain that the dial underneath the boiler indicates the central heating sy...

Страница 33: ...d more fully in Frames 36 40 and must be carried out in sequence Important 6 After completing the servicing or exchange of components always test for gas tightness 7 When work is complete the front pa...

Страница 34: ...nsuring the 4 control knobs line up with the holes in the front panel 5 Re tighten the two retaining screws 36 fan and venturi assembly removal and cleaning 1 Disconnect the electrical leads from the...

Страница 35: ...e burner as shown Important The burner head is a ceramic plaque construction Care must be taken to ensure that the burner is not placed down upon its face as this may cause damage to the ceramic 6 Bru...

Страница 36: ...d detection gaps are correct Refer to Frames 46 47 1 Ignition Electrode Flame Detection Reassemble the boiler in the following order 1 Ensure that the condensate trap siphon is full of water 2 Refit t...

Страница 37: ...rame 53 THE BOILER MUST NOT BE OPERATED without THE FRONT PANEL FITTED 42 fan replacement 1 Refer to Frame 41 2 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 3 Undo the gas pipe union connection to the...

Страница 38: ...that the new gas seal supplied is located correctly in the injector housing 10 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 2 4 3 6 44 burner REPLACEMENT 5 5 6 1 See Frame 37 2 Refer to Frame 4...

Страница 39: ...ck dimensions as shown 8 Reassemble in reverse order 9 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 45 return thermistor reNEWAL 1 Refer to Frame 41 2 Unclip the return thermistor from the...

Страница 40: ...ensuring the two earth leads are correctly replaced 5 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 Flame Detection Electrode Spark Generator 12 5mm Straight edge 1 Refer to Frame 41 2 Remove th...

Страница 41: ...e forwards 6 Fit the new gas control valve ensuring the two sealing washers are in place and reconnect gas and electrical connections 7 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 2 4 5 3 1 Re...

Страница 42: ...ach the appropriate Boiler Chip Card BCC to it this should correspond to the output of the boiler 15kW 18kW 24kW or 30kW Note Ensure the correct orientation of BCC by placing TOP side up as shown 8 Re...

Страница 43: ...Frames 30 31 52 User control PCB replacement 3 Potentiometer spindle Control Knobs to be in vertical position PCB 4 3G9954 53 draining the boiler CENTRAL HEATING CIRCUIT 1 Refer to Frame 41 2 Close al...

Страница 44: ...ssure gauge and discard 4 Fit new pressure gauge using suitable jointing compound 5 Refill the boiler Refer to Frame 23 6 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 54 Pressure Gauge Renewal...

Страница 45: ...tool pull out the retaining clip 5 Pull the pressure sensor upwards to remove 6 Unplug the electrical connection and transfer to the new pressure sensor 7 Push the new pressure sensor onto the rear pu...

Страница 46: ...flow and return pipe connections ensure clip is oriented to correctly match connecting pipe diameters 17 Ensure the trap siphon is filled with water Refer to Frame 50 18 Refill the boiler Refer to Fra...

Страница 47: ...ht joint RECHARGING 1 Remove the charge point cover 2 Recharge the tank pressure to 0 75 bar 3 Re assemble in reverse order 4 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 30 31 REPLACEMENT 5 Refer to...

Страница 48: ...GO TO FRAME 70 CONTROL NO FLOW THERMISTOR FAULT GO TO FRAME 71 RETURN THERMISTOR FAULT GO TO FRAME 72 OUTSIDE SENSOR FAULT LOW MAINS VOLTAGE CONTACT ELECTRICITY PROVIDER PCB FAULT REPLACE PCB RESET B...

Страница 49: ...215Vdc supply available at the Gas Valve See note yes Check spark generator and associated harness for continuity and visual condition Refer to Frame 48 Are these functioning correctly yes Check ignit...

Страница 50: ...as Valve while the flame is on See note yes Check spark generator and associated harness for continuity and visual condition Refer to Frame 48 Are these functioning correctly yes Check ignition electr...

Страница 51: ...ERNATING F AND 6 Outside sensor fault Disconnect the wires to the outside sensor Check the resistance using a suitable multimeter connected across the Outside Sensors terminal pins At 0 o C expect 31...

Страница 52: ...iring A 75 No Display Is there 230Vac to the boiler at L and N see Frame 79 no Supply power to the boiler Is the wiring from the terminal block to the Main PCB connected securely no Connect the wiring...

Страница 53: ...sed by Ideal Failure to do so could affect safety or performance of this appliance Comprehensive spares parts information and details of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on www idealpar...

Страница 54: ...54 Short list of parts Ideal Logic System Installation and Servicing...

Страница 55: ...the data fields on the commissioning checklist completed in full To instigate the boiler guarantee the boiler needs to be registered with the manufacturer within one month of the installation To maint...

Страница 56: ...priate Building Regulations and then handed to the customer to keep for future reference GAS BOILER SYSTEM COMMISSIONING CHECKLIST CONTROLS Programmable room thermostat Optimum start control Combinati...

Страница 57: ...larly and that the appropriate Service Interval Record is completed Service Provider SERVICE RECORD SERVICE 01 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 02 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 03 A...

Страница 58: ...followed e g Gas Safe Register Technical Bulletin TB 008 where chimney flues are in voids The ECGA should be of the correct type as specified by BS 7967 Prior to its use the ECGA should have been mai...

Страница 59: ...are assembled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during installation Rec...

Страница 60: ...The Ideal Technical Training Centre offers a series of first class training courses for domestic commercial and industrial heating installers engineers and system specifiers For details of courses pl...

Страница 61: ...re Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website www idealb...

Страница 62: ...out by a Registered Gas Installer RGII and installed in accordance with the current edition of I S 813 Domestic Gas Installations the current Building Regulations and reference should be made to the c...

Страница 63: ...d and frost is likely during a short absence from home leave the heating controls if fitted at a reduced temperature setting For longer periods the entire system should be drained If the system includ...

Страница 64: ...dip in the pipe in which condensate can collect The location of the blockage should be identified as closely as possible before taking further action 2 Apply a hot water bottle microwaveable heat pack...

Страница 65: ...the time settings on the programmer are as you require and adjust if necessary Check the programmer is in an ON position and the room thermostat is turned up NO See boiler Operation Modes and Fault C...

Страница 66: ...ting either a central heating call or hot water demand The boiler has a call for central heating hot water but the appliance has reached the desired temperature set on the boiler The boiler is operati...

Страница 67: ...he boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal if under warranty or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII F...

Страница 68: ...482 448858 Registration No London 322 137 Ideal Stelrad Group pursues a policy of continuing improvement in the design and performance of its products The right is therefore reserved to vary specifica...

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