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INSTALLATION

Logic Combi ESP - 

Installation and Servicing

 FLUE OUTLET

  

14 DETERMINING THE FLUE LENGTH AND FLUE PACKS REQUIRED 

IMPORTANT

. The boiler must be installed in a vertical position in 

accordance to the installation instructions.

FLUE KITS
Telescopic Flue‘B’ Pack

 - contains: Flue turret, telescopic flue 

incorporating a terminal and rubber wall seals.

Horizontal Flue Terminal (600mm long) ‘B’ Pack

 - contains: 

Flue turret, non telescopic single piece flue incorporating a 

terminal and rubber wall seals. 

Horizontal Flue Terminal (1000mm long) ‘B’ Pack

 - Flue turret, 

telescopic flue incorporating a terminal, rubber wall seals and 

instructions.

Note. If ‘B’ packs are used on their own (either 1 piece or telescopic), then 

they can be fitted horizontally as the flue inside is designed to slope 1.5 

degrees.

Flue Kit 203129 - D Pack Flue Extension 100mm DIA 1000mm long

Flue Kit 211037 - D Pack Flue Extension 100mm DIA 500mm long

Flue Kit 211038 - D Pack Flue Extension 100mm Dia 2000mm long

Flue Kit 211039 - Roof Flue Kit with Vertical Connector

When extension ‘D’ Packs are used the flue duct must incline 

1.5 degrees away from the appliance, to allow the condensate 

to drain back to the boiler and out of the condensate drain.  It is 

recommended that a support bracket is fitted on every 1 metre of 

pipe work used and the bracket is located as close to the collar as 

possible.  The bracketing must ensure a 1.5 degree fall back to the 

appliance.

Optional Flue Finishing Kit

 - UIN 155988 & Concentric Flue 

Screw Retaining Kit (Optional Kit of mechanical fixing of flue 

joints)
Only use water as a lubricant during assembly.
The ‘B’ pack terminal is classed as part of the maximum flue 

length.
These flue systems  incorporates a removable flue outlet 

nose that utilises a push fit location system.  This enables the 

installation of deflector, high level or balcony flue kits without the 

removal of the whole ‘B’ pack terminal.  The appliance must not be 

operated without the desired outlet nose correctly fitted in place, 

ensuring the side location dimples are in line with the mounting 

face allowing the correct sealing of the components.
It is IMPORTANT that all attachments are fitted in accordance to 

the installation instructions provided with them.
The TURRET supplied in the ‘B’ Pack has an upper combustion 

sample point with a screw cap seal and a lower air sample point 

with an air stopper seal.  Ensure all caps & seals are in place.

Additional Termination Kits

 available for use with these ‘B’ 

packs.

Flue Deflector Kit

The resistance is the equivalent of 1 metre of flue pipe and therefore must be deducted from 

any maximum flue length

High Level Flue Outlet Kit

The maximum permissible concentric flue length when using a standard (500mm) kit is 4.5 metres

Balcony Flue Outlet Kit

The maximum permissible concentric flue length when using this kit is dependant on the length 

of the balcony flue outlet run which combined with the concentric run must not exceed the 

maximum flue length requirement of the appliance it is to be fitted to

Soffit Kit

This kit enables fitment of an external flue below soffits.

Total Maximum Permissible Horizontal Concentric Flue Length

 combining both ‘B’ Packs and ‘D’ Packs

(Measured from centreline of the turret to the outside of the wall terminal)

24 kW appliances

Total Maximum:   9 metres - minus any flue kit options or bends

30 kW Appliances

Total Maximum:    8 metres  - minus any flue kit options or bends

35 kW Appliances

Total Maximum:   6 metres - minus any flue kit options or bends

Total Maximum Permissible Vertical Flue Length 

combining both Roof Terminal and ‘D’ Packs

24, 30 & 35kW Appliances

Total Maximum:    7.5 Metres  - minus any bends

Powered Vertical Flue

24, 30 & 35kW Appliances

Total Maximum:    5 Metres  - Concentric Flue and 17m flue pipe only.  For additional details 

refer to the powered Vertical Instructions

90º Elbow Kit 60/100 - 

(Equivalent flue length resistance = 

1M

)

45º Elbow Kit 60/100

 - (Equivalent flue length resistance = 

0.6M

)

Minimum Horizontal Flue Lengths 

(Centre line of turret to outside of wall terminal)

Telescopic Flue ‘B’ Pack = 400mm

Horizontal Flue terminal (600mm long) ‘B’ Pack = 285mm

Wall Thickness

   

 

     Std Metric Brick 102.5mm wide

‘B’ Pack Flue Type 60/100

Minimum permissible Wall Thickness

Maximum permissible Wall Thickness

Rear Flue Rear Flue + Std-Off Side Flue Rear Flue Rear Flue + Std-Off Side Flue

Horizontal Flue Terminal 

(600mm long) B Pack

116

102.5

102.5

501

456

456

Telescopic Flue B Pack

231

186

186

429

384

384

Horizontal Flue Terminal 

(1000mm long) B Pack

546

501

501

761

716

716

Horizontal Flue Terminal 

(1000mm long) B Pack cut 75mm

471

426

426

686

641

641

For Flue lengths between 658 & 708 use a Horizontal Flue Terminal (1000mm long) B Pack, cut 75mm off the end of the 

terminal section of the telescopic flue only.

Содержание COMBI ESP 30

Страница 1: ...oned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance practices visit our website www idealboilers com where you ca...

Страница 2: ...art Load P1 kW 7 9 7 9 7 9 Auxiliary Electricity Consumption Full Load elmax kW 0 29 0 31 0 42 Part Load elmin kW 0 012 0 013 0 013 Standby PSB kW 0 005 0 005 0 005 Seasonal Space Heating Energy Effic...

Страница 3: ...lass V Class VI Class VII Class VIII 1 2 1 5 2 3 4 3 5 5 PRODUCT FICHE The energy efficiency of the package of products provided for in this document may not correspond to its actual energy efficiency...

Страница 4: ...4 Logic Combi ESP Installation and Servicing...

Страница 5: ...o vary specification without notice FOR ANY TECHNICAL QUERIES PLEASE RING THE IDEAL INSTALLER HELPLINE 01482 498704 NOTE BOILER RESTART PROCEDURE To restart boiler turn mode knob to restart position a...

Страница 6: ...ination PMS Maximum operating pressure of water C13 C33 C53 A room sealed appliance designed for connection via ducts to a horizontal or vertical terminal which admits fresh air to the burner and disc...

Страница 7: ...14 Central heating mode Heat input to be calculated For assistance see Technical Helpline on the back page Page Burner operating pressure n a Central heating flow temp measure and record Central heat...

Страница 8: ...is drawn off When there is a demand for CH the heating system is supplied at the selected temperature of between 45o C and 80o C until DHW is drawn off The full output from the boiler is then directe...

Страница 9: ...or Water byelaws in Scotland The Current I E E Wiring Regulations Where no specific instructions are given reference should be made to the relevant British Standard Code of Practice In IE the install...

Страница 10: ...owing notes are intended for general guidance 1 The boiler MUST be installed so that the terminal is exposed to external air LOCATION OF BOILER The boiler must be installed on a flat and vertical inte...

Страница 11: ...oms should also be fitted with a room thermostat controlling the temperature in a space served by radiators not fitted with such a valve When thermostatic radiator valves are used the space heating te...

Страница 12: ...drill the flue can be installed from inside the building where wall thicknesses do not exceed 600mm 24 Where the space into which the boiler is going to be installed is less than the length of flue r...

Страница 13: ...eason an additional vessel MUST be installed on the return to the boiler Guidance on vessel sizing is given in Frame 2 Notes a The method of filling refilling topping up or flushing sealed primary hot...

Страница 14: ...the device and the boiler in the cold inlet pipe Cold water rising main and pipework in exposed areas need to be suitably lagged to prevent freezing Note DHW Expansion Vessel kit available from Ideal...

Страница 15: ...Siphon Trap 231 Condensate Outlet Connection 301 Ctrl Box Fixings Hings Spring 302 Primary PCB 303 CUI Board 304 Control Thermistor Return 306 Electrode Ignition 307 Electrode Detection 308 Ignitor Un...

Страница 16: ...e HARDWARE PACK CONTENTS Gas Valve Pack 1 Pipe Gas Inlet 2 Washer Gas blue 3 Gas Cock Filling Loop Pack 1 3 8 Top Hat Washer 2 Valve Filling Loop 3 Pipe Filling Loop Return Valve Pack 1 Pipe CH Return...

Страница 17: ...C A E F B 1 2 Pack B Contents Non Telescopic A Flue terminal B Flue turret C Rubber terminal wall seal D Cutting Aid E Wall Seal white 8 UNPACKING CONT D A D B C E Note This flue system incorporates a...

Страница 18: ...o the wall Both wall faces immediately around the cut hole should be flat 2 Drill 2 mounting holes marked from template with a 7 5mm 8mm masonry drill and insert the plastic plugs provided for the wal...

Страница 19: ...per combustion sample point with a screw cap seal and a lower air sample point with an air stopper seal Ensure all caps seals are in place Additional Termination Kits available for use with these B pa...

Страница 20: ...erminal 1000mm long B Pack Telescopic Cut 75mm Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum B Pack Standard 171 556 286 484 601 816 526 741 Plus 1 1m D pack 1121 1506 1236 1434 1551...

Страница 21: ...tlet terminal is upper most 4 Drill a 3 5mm hole through one of the 2 outer side holes in the outer flue section into the inserted outer flue as shown Take care not to pierce the inner plastic flue Fi...

Страница 22: ...d to be refitted 9 When 1st mark is in line with the wall whilst holding the flue firmly push the white wall sealing flange to the wall until the 2nd of the two marks is just visible If the last locat...

Страница 23: ...hieved by using either Flat roof weather collar or Universal weather collar ACCESSORIES Flue Duct Extension Kits are available for flue lengths extending beyond 1m These packs contain 1m extension duc...

Страница 24: ...penetrate the shaded area of the roof Note The equivalent flue length resistance of the elbow kits are 90o elbow kit 1m 45o elbow kit 0 6m If chimney penetrates dotted area such that A is less than 3...

Страница 25: ...he instructions provided with the vertical connector kit 3 Secure the vertical connector by applying downward pressure on the connector 4 Position the clamp on the top face of the flue manifold and pu...

Страница 26: ...xternal Drain Connections The use of an externally run condensate drainage pipe should only be considered after exhausting all internal termination options as described previously An external system m...

Страница 27: ...imum connection height up to 3 storeys Soil vent stack 450 Boiler with 75mm sealed condensate trap Min 19mm Internal pipe Min 30mm Internal pipe Water weather proof insulation 75 Boilers without 75mm...

Страница 28: ...tion to the boiler tails use 22mm x 28mm pipe adaptors as appropriate WATER CONNECTIONS DHW 1 Fit the DHW inlet service valve blue handle and copper tail to the threaded boss connection ensuring the s...

Страница 29: ...let valve and fit the grey cap to the open end 8 Fit the Plug to the free end of the filling loop Note open all DHW taps to ensure water is flowing freely once satisfied close all taps Top Up 1 Ensure...

Страница 30: ...complete isolation of the electrical supply such as a double pole switch having a 3mm 1 8 contact separation in both poles The means of isolation must be accessible to the user after installation WAR...

Страница 31: ...njunction with a room thermostat Electronic Timer 7 day kit 7 day electronic CH timer fits into the control box of the boiler This can be fitted in conjunction with a room thermostat Features English...

Страница 32: ...OOM STAT TIMER Room Stat or Prog Room Stat Optional Frost Stat DIAGRAM A Internal Timer or Programmable Room Stat 3G9561 N L N FROST STAT OPTIONAL ROOM STAT TIMER Room Stat Optional Frost Stat DIAGRAM...

Страница 33: ...y g blue black brown red pink yellow white yellow green grey orange violet b bk br r p y w y g g or v KEY p y bk bk bk b y g br y g y g bk b bk b br bk v y g y g 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 bk bk b b b br bk...

Страница 34: ...9927 CH Flow DHW Outlet Gas Supply CH Return DHW Inlet Gas Pressure Test Point ATTENTION IT IS A CONDITION OF THE MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY THAT THE BENCHMARK COMMISSIONING CHECKLIST IS FULLY COMPLETED A...

Страница 35: ...to Frame 37 3 Check that the drain cock is closed and that the CH and DHW isolating valves L M and G are OPEN 4 Check that the electrical supply is OFF 5 Check that the boiler mode knob D is off 6 Ch...

Страница 36: ...ng then neon steady when the burner lights 2 Close all taps except the furthest one from the boiler and check that the boiler is firing at maximum rate This is factory set to give a DHW temperature ri...

Страница 37: ...should be fully explained to the householder to ensure the greatest possible fuel economy consistent with the household requirements of both heating and hot water consumption Advise the User of the p...

Страница 38: ...to Frame 66 The cleaning procedures are covered more fully in Frames 38 42 and MUST be carried out in sequence IMPORTANT 6 After completing the servicing or exchange of components always test for gas...

Страница 39: ...the clip from the gas control valve outlet and ease the pipe upwards rotate and then ease down to remove 3 Remove the extended nut on the fan mounting bracket 4 Lift off fan and venturi assembly 5 Und...

Страница 40: ...NT The burner head is a ceramic plaque construction Care must be taken to ensure that the burner is not placed down upon its face as this may cause damage to the ceramic 6 Brush off any deposits that...

Страница 41: ...7 Check that the ignition and detection gaps are correct Refer to Frames 48 49 1 Ignition Electrode Flame Detection Reassemble the boiler in the following order 1 Ensure that the condensate trap sipho...

Страница 42: ...R MUST NOT BE OPERATED WITHOUT THE FRONT PANEL FITTED 44 FAN REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Frame 43 2 Disconnect the electrical leads from the fan 3 Remove the clip from the gas control valve outlet 4 Remove...

Страница 43: ...everse order ensuring that the new gas seal supplied is located correctly in the injector housing 10 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 32 33 4 3 3 46 BURNER REPLACEMENT 5 5 6 1 See Frame 4...

Страница 44: ...own 8 Reassemble in reverse order 9 Check the operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 32 33 47 RETURN THERMISTOR RENEWAL 1 Refer to Frame 43 2 Unclip the return thermistor from the return pipe and wit...

Страница 45: ...CONTROL VALVE REPLACEMENT 1 Refer to Frame 43 2 Unplug the electrical lead connection from the gas control valve 3 Disconnect the earth wire 4 Remove the outlet gas valve clip and slide the pipe upwar...

Страница 46: ...his occurs simply screw back into the body so the cycle can continue driving fully in before going to mid position f Replace the actuator into the boiler 6 Fit the new motor ensuring the arm is correc...

Страница 47: ...ctions 9 Reassemble in reverse order 10 a Turn power on b Displays 8 blue light on off first digit input second digit input 1st letter appliance type i e 2 4 c c Move knob to required setting standby...

Страница 48: ...Frame 24 before proceeding to check operation of the boiler 5 Disconnect filling loop Refer to Frame 24 6 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 32 33 CENTRAL HEATING CIRCUIT 1 Refer to Frame...

Страница 49: ...Firstly increase access area by disconnecting the 22mm pipe connection at top of pump chamber and bottom of heat exchanger and remove pipe Refer to Frame 59 no s 5 6 7 5 The automatic air vent head i...

Страница 50: ...ve pump and rotate the pipe 12 If required remove expansion vessel connection hose Refer to Frame 69 13 Remove the DHW inlet and CH return connection situated beneath the boiler 14 Remove the three to...

Страница 51: ...57 3 Pull off the two electrical connections 4 Using a suitable tool pull out the metal retaining clip 5 Carefully withdraw the pressure switch 6 Fit the new pressure switch and re assemble in reverse...

Страница 52: ...eals if any sign of damage is evident When replacing the spring clips located on the return pipe connection ensure clip is oriented to correctly match connecting pipe diameters 18 Ensure the trap siph...

Страница 53: ...G 1 Refer to Frame 43 2 Remove the charge point cover 3 Recharge the tank pressure to 0 75 bar 4 Re assemble in reverse order 5 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frames 32 33 REPLACEMENT 6 Refer...

Страница 54: ...O FRAME 78 THERMISTOR FAULT GO TO FRAME 80 OUTSIDE SENSOR FAULT LOW MAINS VOLTAGE CONTACT ELECTRICITY PROVIDER PCB FAULT REPLACE PCB RESTART BOILER NO CH BUT HW OK NO HW BUT CH OK NO DISPLAY GO TO FRA...

Страница 55: ...r to Frame 50 Are these functioning correctly YES Check ignition electrode and associated harness for continuity visual condition and position Refer to Frame 48 Are these functioning correctly NO Chec...

Страница 56: ...if condensate pipe is blocked Check if flue is blocked Replace as necessary NO Check gas supply and rectify fault NO YES Is 215Vdc supply available at the Gas Valve while the flame is on See note YES...

Страница 57: ...C expect 1 000 1 100 Ohms Is the Thermistor value correct YES Is the wiring securely connected to the low voltage 6 way connector at the front left hand side of the PCB YES Replace PCB Fit a new Therm...

Страница 58: ...wiring at the Terminal Block and the PCB Is the wiring securely connected at both the boiler and Outside Sensor YES NO Securely connect the wiring at both the boiler and Outside Sensor NO YES 81 ALTE...

Страница 59: ...n YES NO Move the mode knob to the Winter position Are the Timer and the Room Thermostat switched on YES NO Switch the Timer and Room Thermostat On Are the Radiator Valves Open YES NO Open the Radiato...

Страница 60: ...e display show d when a tap is on NO NO YES Are the flow rates correct as per Frame 2 Is the wiring between the PCB and the diverter valve motor connected YES YES Check diverter head fully engaged and...

Страница 61: ...ed by Ideal Failure to do so could affect safety or performance of this appliance Comprehensive spares parts information and details of approved Ideal Parts Distributors are available on www idealpart...

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Страница 63: ...he data fields on the commissioning checklist completed in full To instigate the boiler guarantee the boiler needs to be registered with the manufacturer within one month of the installation To mainta...

Страница 64: ...priate Building Regulations and then handed to the customer to keep for future reference GAS BOILER SYSTEM COMMISSIONING CHECKLIST CONTROLS Programmable room thermostat Optimum start control Combinati...

Страница 65: ...larly and that the appropriate Service Interval Record is completed Service Provider SERVICE RECORD SERVICE 01 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 02 AND Where Possible AND Signature SERVICE 03 A...

Страница 66: ...ollowed e g Gas Safe Register Technical Bulletin TB 008 where chimney flues are in voids The ECGA should be of the correct type as specified by BS 7967 Prior to its use the ECGA should have been maint...

Страница 67: ...re assembled fixed and supported as per instructions Check that flue and flue terminal are not obstructed Check that no seals e g Those on flue extensions have been displaced during installation Recti...

Страница 68: ...s of first class training courses for domestic commercial and industrial heating installers engineers and system specifiers For details of courses please ring 01482 498 432 Manufactured under an ISO 9...

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