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Electrical and Circuit Diagrams

GB 31

CDR570/930

5.

DRIVER

IR

3999 F9
5001 B6
5002 A5
6000 C7
7005 A4
7006 E4
7007 E5
7008 F4
7009 F5
7010 A2

DIGITAL OUTPUT

2025 C3
2026 D2
2027 D2
2028 F7
2029 F7
2030 B2
3020 A8
3021 A4
3023 A2
3024 A4
3025 A1
3026 C4
3027 C4
3028 C6
3029 C3
3030 D3
3031 D3
3032 E3
3033 E5
3034 E3
3035 E5
3036 F3
3037 F5
3038 F3
3039 F5

LEFTIN

RIGHTIN

LEFTOUT

OPTIN

KILL

DIGITAL INPUT

OUTPUT RIGHT

RIGHTOUT

OUTPUT LEFT

1000-10 C9
1000-11 C9
1000-12 B9
1000-13 B1
1000-14 C9
1000-2 E1
1000-3 E1
1000-4 D9
1000-5 D9
1000-6 D9
1000-7 E1
1000-8 B1
1000-9 B9
1001-A A9
1001-B B1
1002-A E9
1002-B D1
2015 A2
2016 A5
2017 B3
2018 B4
2019 B6
2020 B3
2021 B7
2022 B7
2023 C4
2024 C6

+5V

INPUT RIGHT

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

A

B

C

D

E

F

A

B

C

D

E

F

1000-1 F1

DIGIN

INPUT LEFT

1000-7

7

DIGOUT

1

7009
BC847B

2015

33p

3028

4R7

7008
BC847B

1000-11

11

2024

22n

1001-A
YKC21-3421

5

2

1

3035

2K2

7007
BC847B

1000-6

6

3033

100R

BC847B

7006

4

2019

10u

F112

F106

1000-4

22n

2018

F121

22n

2016

F109

+5VDS

F104

F105

2K2

1000-14

14

1

3037

100R

3038

4R7

1000-1

2028

33p

3025

100R

3036

3029

33p

2029

75R

2

150p

2025

68R

3020

YKC21-3699

1002-A

3

1

3023

100R

3K3

3021

1000-8

8

3K3

3024

1000-5

5

100K

3031

33n

2021

+5VDS

1000-3

3

+5VDS

+5VDS

3

33p

2030

1001-B

YKC21-3421

5

4

5

3Y

6

4A

9

4Y

8

5A

11

5Y

10

6A

13

6Y

12

GND

7

VCC

14

2017

22n

74HCU04D

7005

1A

1

1Y

2

2A

3

2Y

4

3A

3030

100K

2020

22n

F116

F107

F102

F103

12

F113

F114

3027

3K3

1000-12

F118

F119

F120

3026

3K3

F108

F100

F101

2K2

BLM21

5002

3032

100R

3034

6000

GP1F32R

2

1

3

1002-B

YKC21-3699

6

4

5

1

2

3

4

6

7

8

1000-2

2

7CHA

5001

2023

2022

33n

3039

2K2

22n

1000-13

13

1000-9

9

1000-10

10

F122

F111

F115

F117

F110

2027

100p

GP1F32T

7010

3

1

2

2026

100p

I/O BOARD - CIRCUIT DIAGRAM

CL 96532076_005.eps

280799

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Summary of Contents for CDR570

Page 1: ... be divided into two parts 1 The display board 1002 and the I O board 1004 have to be repaired at component level The power supply unit 1003 is available as a spare part but can also be repaired at component level 2 The CDR module containing the CDR loader 81 CDR main board 1001 and loader bracket 82 83 will be exchanged completely in case of failure This complete CDR module is available as spare ...

Page 2: ...hted 98dB typical 102dB S N ratio unweighted 93dB typical 95dB Dynamic range 92dB at 1kHz typical 96dB 90dB between 20Hz and 20kHz typical 96dB THD N 82dB between 20Hz and 20kHz typical 88dB 1 3 2 Cinch analog input output monitor path Measured with Audio precision system one Input voltage is 500Vrms Output voltage 2Vrms 2dB 0dB signal Frequency range F R 20Hz F R 20kHz Amplitude linearity 0 3dB t...

Page 3: ...r drastisch doen verminderen Zorg ervoor dat u tijdens reparatie via een polsband met weerstand verbonden bent met hetzelfde potentiaal als de massa van het apparaat Houd componenten en hulpmiddelen ook op ditzelfde potentiaal I AVVERTIMENTO Tutti IC e parecchi semi conduttori sono sensibili alle scariche statiche ESD La loro longevita potrebbe essere fortemente ridatta in caso di non osservazione...

Page 4: ...Warnings and Servicing Hints GB 4 CDR570 930 2 SERVICING HINTS In the set chip components have been applied For disassembly and assembly check the figure below www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 5: ...Warnings and Servicing Hints GB 5 CDR570 930 2 www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 6: ...Directions of use GB 6 CDR570 930 3 3 Directions of use www freeservicemanuals info ...

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Page 23: ...Directions of use GB 23 CDR570 930 3 www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 24: ...Directions of use GB 24 CDR570 930 3 Personal notes www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 25: ...Pin 1 indicated by All Wires are 1 1 except flex 8001 8001 3104 157 1130 8006 1 ON 2 OFF 8006 3104 157 11042 Connections delivered with CDR loader assy Cable connected to tray switch and tray motor 8003 3104 157 11011 3104 128 0599 I O BOARD 3104 128 0585 MAIN BOARD CDR POWER SUPPLY UNIT 3104 128 0588 DISPLAY BOARD 1400 1 14 TO FRAME Texture indicates text on flex 1500 11 F934 1 10 0205 0206 1121 ...

Page 26: ...chanical Instructions GB 26 CDR570 930 4 I O BOARD POWER SUPPLY UNIT LOADER ASSY MAIN BOARD CDR DISPLAY BOARD ON OFF SWITCH EXPLODED VIEW CDR570 930 CL 96532076_010 eps 280799 www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 27: ...to PSU 1003 Remove screw 106 on off switch frame 181 Remove on off switch and power button assy 9 from set Remove power button assy 9 from on off switch Front assy 1 After disassembly put in front of the set service position Remove 2 screws 182 183 front assy 1 frame 181 Unlock front assy from frame by releasing 6 snaps start with 1 in each foot at the bottom then 2 on the top and 1 on each side P...

Page 28: ...DBACK OFFTRACK LLP CDR60PLL ATIPSYNC A1 A2 CALF ALPHA0 TLN MIRN FEN REN RE CONTROL LINES EFM TIMING GENERATOR F934 2 WIRES 2 WIRES FLASH ROM 7703 DRAM 7702 DSA CDR DATA BUS ADDRESS BUS SUBCODE BUS I2S BUS 1 DOBM CDR I2S BUS 2 4 L3 BUS CODEC UDA1341TS ADC DAC 7406 DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL PROCESSOR MACE2 SAA7399 BASIC ENGINE PROCESSOR MAD0 MAD7 MA8 MA17 7270 7701 ADDRESS BUS DATA BUS A1 A20 D16 D31 I 2...

Page 29: ...F144 E8 REC TO CDR MAIN BOARD A STOP 13 1 PLAY 2 6100 C8 3122 C2 3124 E2 3125 C8 F137 E8 F138 E9 F152 F3 F153 F3 F154 F8 F155 G7 F156 G10 F115 D4 F116 D4 F158 G6 F159 G4 F160 G10 F161 G7 F119 D5 F120 D5 2106 G10 D F113 D7 F114 D4 FINALIZE F145 E3 F146 E8 F147 F3 F148 F8 F117 D4 F118 D5 1101 B9 2104 G10 C F112 D6 F163 H8 F109 D6 F142 F2 F123 D6 F124 D6 F125 D7 START EXT REC F145 STBYLED ERASE DISPL...

Page 30: ...Circuit Diagrams GB 30 CDR570 930 5 ON OFF SWITCH DISPLAY BOARD ON OFF SWITCH CDR570 930 BACK VIEW DISPLAY BOARD ON OFF SWITCH CDR570 930 FRONT VIEW ON OFF SWITCH CL 96532076_004 eps 280799 www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 31: ... 1000 7 7 DIGOUT 1 7009 BC847B 2015 33p 3028 4R7 7008 BC847B 1000 11 11 2024 22n 1001 A YKC21 3421 5 2 1 3035 2K2 7007 BC847B 1000 6 6 3033 100R BC847B 7006 4 2019 10u F112 F106 1000 4 22n 2018 F121 22n 2016 F109 5VDS F104 F105 2K2 1000 14 14 1 3037 100R 3038 4R7 1000 1 2028 33p 3025 100R 3036 3029 33p 2029 75R 2 150p 2025 68R 3020 YKC21 3699 1002 A 3 1 3023 100R 3K3 3021 1000 8 8 3K3 3024 1000 5 ...

Page 32: ...Electrical and Circuit Diagrams GB 32 CDR570 930 5 I O BOARD BOTTOM VIEW I O BOARD TOP VIEW CL 96532076_006 eps 280799 www freeservicemanuals info ...

Page 33: ... BYW29F 6230 BYD33J 6250 BYD33D 6240 BYD33D 6220 6113 6132 BYD33J 1N4006G 6231 BYD33D 6114 47nF 2221 2251 2201 100nF 2202 22nF 2131 2 2nF 100nF 2111 2 2nF 400V 2126 2 2nF 400V 2125 2 2nF 2113 100nF 2114 82pF 2101 2106 2107 470pF 2103 820pF 2102 4 7nF 2104 2109 1 5nF 2120 330nF 470pF 1KV 2127 1nF 2260 100uF 10V 2242 100uF 6V3 2222 2200uF 10V 2210 1000uF 16V 2230 10uF 50V 2250 220uF 16V 2240 330uF 1...

Page 34: ...B 8 5132 C 7 5210 B 10 5220 A 10 5225 A 9 5226 A 9 5230 C 10 5240 C 10 5250 C 10 5255 B 9 6102 A 4 6106 B 7 6107 C 6 6113 D 6 6114 D 6 6132 D 6 6210 B 9 6211 B 9 6220 A 8 6230 C 9 6231 C 10 6232 C 9 6240 C 8 6250 B 9 7110 C 5 7125 B 5 7200 D 8 7201 D 8 7221 A 9 7249 C 10 9208 B 11 9210 B 8 9214 D 11 9215 D 11 9220 A 10 9226 A 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 D C B A D C B A 2101 B...

Page 35: ...n non technical dealer will can perform the test Tests are executed automatically without need for external tools or disassembly of the unit This test checks the CDR main board using the same tests as the electrical service diagnostics program Only the result of the test PASSED or ERROR will be shown on the display Pressing keys F FWD and REWIND simultaneously while switching on the unit starts th...

Page 36: ...inished all failure messages if any will be displayed sequentially by pressing the CDR MAIN BOARD TEST ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS software versions test for defective components PLAYER INFORMATION YES NO Tests OK If power ON switch power OFF Load CD DA disc SBC444A Press PLAY F FWD simultaneously and switch ON unit Display PLAYER ID SW VERSION BACK END SW VERSION CDR LOADER CDR775 SW VERSION C...

Page 37: ...ng middle and end of the disc CDR loader test During the test the current disc time is shown In case of an error the message BERR1 will be displayed and the F FWD key must be pressed to continue with the following test Pressing the F FWD key also aborts this test CD loader test For CDR775 only During the test the current disc time is shown In case of an error the message BERR2 will be displayed an...

Page 38: ... One has to stop these tests pressing REWIND before it is possible to close the tray again Depending on the action the display reads OPEN OPENED CLOSE or BUSY 6 5 DC erase service mode Figure 6 4 6 5 1 Description This test is initiated by pressing ERASE and RECORD simultaneously while switching on the unit The player will erase a complete CD RW disc including PMA and ATIP lead out area at speed N...

Page 39: ...8MHz SUPPLY VOLTAGES ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS DISPLAY TEST KEYBOARD TEST POWER SUPPLY VOLTAGES ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS CHECK MECHANICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF ERROR OCCURS TRAY CD R DISC LOADED NO NO NO NO NO YES YES YES YES YES CD RW DISC LOADED YES STBY LED PRESS DISPLAY MAINS MAINS CABLE CHECK STANDBY LED NO YES K...

Page 40: ...ERRn ERROR OCCURS CHECK WIRING I O BOARD FLEX CONNECTION 5V pin 8 conn 1000 KILL TRANSISTORS 7006 7007 7008 7009 AUDIO ANALOG OUT ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS AUDIO CONNECTIONS CABLES CHECK I O BOARD FLEX CONNECTION 5V pin 8 conn 1000 ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS AUDIO CONNECTIONS CABLES WIRING ...

Page 41: ...RVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS CHECK WIRING NO YES DISPLAY CD T O C INFO SEE CD DA DISC FAULT FINDING CHECK ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS DISPLAY BOARD SEE FAULT FINDING GUIDE DISPLAY BOARD EASY JOG KNOB I2C COMMUNICATION ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS KEYBOARD TEST AUDIO CONNECTIONS CABLES CHECK IC7005 OPTICAL...

Page 42: ...LECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS CHECK DISC DIRT SCRATCHES DAMAGED NO POWER SUPPLY VOLTAGES ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS CHECK WIRING NO YES DISPLAY CD T O C INFO SEE CD DA DISC FAULT FINDING CHECK ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS REPLACE CDR MODULE IF DERRn OR BERRn ERROR OCCURS IF DISC CORRUPTED TRY ...

Page 43: ...grid and segment scanning for the FTD generates the scanning grid for the key matrix input for remote control All the communication runs via the serial bus interface I2C The display controller uses an 8Mhz resonator as clock driver Figure 8 9 6 5 1 5 1 6 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 34 35 36 37 41 14 12 11 17 18 20 21 22 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 10 25 23 24 4 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 3 64 63 62 ...

Page 44: ... signals FTD drive lines Filament voltage Should measure 3 8V 10 VDC1 VDC2 between pins 1 2 3 and pins 45 46 47 pins 1 2 and pins 48 49 for CDR570 930 of the FTD 1113 Grid lines Level and timing of all grid lines G1 G15 can be checked either at the FTD itself or at the display controller Grid lines G13 G14 and G15 each have an extra current amplifier in line T7203 for G13 T7204 for G14 and T7100 f...

Page 45: ...pin 4 of the easy jog maintains the low level pin 5 the high level When pressed the scanning signal goes through the closed contact of pins 4 and 5 and can be checked at both pins IR receiver remote control In the CDR570 930 the IR receiver TSOP1736 6101 is mounted on the display board In the CDR770 that same IR receiver 6200 is mounted on a small board together with the headphone socket In the CD...

Page 46: ...K at conn 1119 7 1121 1 for CDR570 930 FTD DRIVE LINES Filament voltage 3V8 10 between pins 1 2 3 and pins 45 46 47 pins 1 2 and pins 48 49 for CDR 570 930 of the FTD 1113 Grid lines see test instructions Segment lines see test instructions ELECTRICAL SERVICE DIAGNOSTICS Local display test YES YES YES KEY FUNCTIONS REMOTE CONTROL NO NO CHECK KEY MATRIX LINES see test instructions ELECTRICAL SERVIC...

Page 47: ...distinguishing features when compared to conventional SMPS controllers These features consist of a foldback facility for overload protection a standby mode when the converter output is slightly loaded a demagnetization detection for reduced switching stresses on transistor and diodes and a high current totem pole output ideally suited for driving a power MOSFET It can also be used for driving a bi...

Page 48: ...ce value CT connected between Pin 10 and Gnd generates the oscillator sawtooth 11 Soft Start Dmax Volta ge Mode A capacitor resistor or a voltage source connected to this pin limits the switching duty cycle This pin can be used as a voltage mode control input By connecting Pin 11 to Ground the MC44603 can be shut down 12 RP Standby A voltage level applied to the RP Standby pin determines the outpu...

Page 49: ...he oscillator voltage ramps up and down between V1 and V2 The voltage at the current sense terminal is compared every cycle with the output of the error amplifier Vcomp The output is switched off when the current sense level exceeds the level at the output of the error amplifier TimeON phase A drain current will flow from the positive supply at pin 2 of the transformer through the transformer s pr...

Page 50: ...ne the frequency of the oscillator Power switch circuit This circuit comprises MOSFET 7125 Rsense 3126 3127 and 3128 R3125 C2127 L5125 R3112 and R3113 R3125 is a pull down resistor to remove static charges from the gate of the MOSFET Regulation circuit The regulation circuit comprises opto coupler 7200 which isolates the error signal from the control IC on the primary side and a reference componen...

Page 51: ...mains inlet to a mains isolated variac Check the functionality of the following components 1120 3120 2120 3122 1125 3124 5120 6102 2121 Check Vcc on pin 1 IC7110 Vcc 12V 16V Is power supply ticking Check start circuit and Vcc supply 3123 3134 2129 6129 3129 3111 2111 Replace 7110 Power supply OK Power supply unit OK OK NOK NOK OK OK Check the path of the other faulty voltage s Power supply is OK C...

Page 52: ...ted in case of search activities B1LF B2LF CONN1000 Æ IC7010 satellite photo diodes B1 B2 current output BCLK IC7701 Æ R3898A Æ IC7300 I2S1 BitCLocK from DASP to CDR60 playback and record BE_RESET IC7701 Æ R3261 Æ IC7270IC7701 Æ R3716 Basic Engine RESET active high BIASC IC7008 Æ R3056 BIAS Current switch CDRW output BKPT CONN1819 R3907 Æ IC7701 JTAG mode select debug mode BreaKPoinT C1LF C4LF CON...

Page 53: ...28 C2733 Data Strobe Acknowledge serial communication between DASP and CD player in CDR775 DSA_DATA_CDR IC7270 R3246 R3813 IC7701 CONN1830IC7270 R3246 R3767 Data Strobe Acknowledge serial communication between MACE2 and DASP for CDR DSA_STR_CD IC7701 R3835 R3832 CONN1708IC7701 R3835 C2734 Data Strobe Acknowledge serial communication between DASP and CD player in CDR775 DSA_STR_CDR IC7270 Æ R3245 Æ...

Page 54: ...0 Analog Output I2S_DATA_CD CONN1708 C2738 Æ R3836 Æ IC7701 I2S3 DATA from CD player record n 2 CDR775 only I2S_DATA_MIC CONN1708 C2738 Æ R3836 Æ IC7701 I2S3 DATA from MICrophone CDR950 only I2S_WS_AI IC7701 Æ R3743 Æ IC7406 I2S4 Word CLocK for CODEC ADC for CDR950 Analog Input record from analog source I2S_WS_AO IC7701 Æ R3894B Æ IC7406 I2S2 Word CLocK for CODEC DAC for CDR950 Analog Output I2S_W...

Page 55: ... current source PRFINE IC7016 Æ R3058 drive signal from Power Read FINE DAC for read current source PROF_EBU IC7701 Æ CONN1820 PROFessional digital output CDR950 only PSENn IC7270 Æ R3260 Æ IC7208IC7270 Æ R3231 Program Store ENable external ROM output enable line active low PW R3081 Æ IC7008 Write Power signal to OPC input of MACE2 PWB IC7001C Æ IC7016 drive signal to XDAC s for write and erase cu...

Page 56: ...0 Æ CONN1200 TRay motor drive signal positive connection TRACE99_RXD CONN1818 Æ R3838 IC7701 TRACE99 test tool receive data TRACE99_TXD IC7701 Æ CONN1818 TRACE99 test tool transmit data TRAYIN IC7270 Æ IC7240 move TRAY IN line active low TRAYOUT IC7270 Æ IC7240 move TRAY OUT line active low TRAYSW CONN1200 Æ R3747CONN1200 Æ R3748 TRAY SWitch signal from loader assy TRAYSWF R3748 C2214 Æ IC7270 Fil...

Page 57: ...114 4822 276 13114 SWITCH PUSH BUTTON 1115 4822 276 13114 SWITCH PUSH BUTTON 1116 4822 276 13114 SWITCH PUSH BUTTON 1117 4822 276 13114 SWITCH PUSH BUTTON 1118 4822 276 13114 SWITCH PUSH BUTTON 2100 4822 126 14585 100nF 10 X7R 0805 50V 2101 4822 126 14585 100nF 10 X7R 0805 50V 2102 5322 122 32654 22nF 10 X7R 63V 2104 5322 122 32658 22pF 5 50V 2106 5322 122 32658 22pF 5 50V 2109 5322 122 32658 22pF...

Page 58: ... 2113 4822 122 33127 2 2nF10 X7R 63V 2114 4822 126 14585 100nF 10 X7R 0805 50V 2121 8222 675 04681 47mF 400V RUBYCON 2125 4822 121 51598 2 2nF 5 400V 2126 4822 121 51598 2 2nF 5 400V 2127 4822 126 14496 470pF 10 1kV 2129 4822 124 23057 4 7mF 20 50V 2131 4822 126 14497 2 2nF 20 250V 2133 4822 124 12062 100mF 20 25V 2201 4822 126 14585 100nF 10 X7R 0805 50V 2202 5322 122 32654 22nF 10 X7R 63V 2210 4...

Page 59: ...2 10mH 10 4X9 8MM LAL04T100K 5250 4822 157 51462 10mH 10 4X9 8MM LAL04T100K 5255 4822 157 51195 1 mH 20 4X9 8MM AXIAL 6102 4822 130 83707 SINB80 6106 9337 234 20133 BYD33J 6107 9337 234 20133 BYD33J 6114 9337 234 00133 BYD33D 6129 5322 130 80122 BZX84 C24 6132 9337 234 00133 BYD33D 6211 8222 675 05041 SB360L 7004 22 6220 9337 234 00133 BYD33D 6231 9338 386 60673 1N4006GP 6232 4822 130 11584 BYW98 ...

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