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Just  a  few  notes  for  plug-in  users.

One  question  that  gets  asked  a  lot  is  “Why  no  ‘Link’  switch  “or    “Why  not  a  stereo  EQ  with  one  set  of

controls?”  Yeah,  it  would  be  sweet  sometimes,  especially  if  fewer  knobs  resulted  in  lower  cost.  The  most

accurate  answer  is  “you  guys  are  spoiled,  ha  ha”.  To  do  it  in  digital  is  almost  a  no-brainer  and  is  just  a  matter

of  passing  a  few  numbers  to  the  other  side's  parameter  registers.  To  do  it  on  an  analog  compressor  is  a  bit

more  involved  but  still  pretty  easy  and  not  pricey.  But  doing  it  on  an  analog  EQ,  requires  big  expensive

multi-deck  switches,  pots,  and  practically  all  audio  switching  be  done  with  relays  or  FETs.  Now  given  that

the  rotary  switches  and  all  the  pots  are  already  custom  and  difficult  to  source,  getting  ones  that  are  twice  as

deep,  and  4  times  rarer,  and  not  eliminate  the  need  for  individual  channel  control,  would  add  a  lot  of  cost  to

the  unit.  Besides  that,  considering  that  the  Mini  is  really  stuffed  with  parts,  just  routing  printed  circuit  board

traces,  would  be  difficult  and  involve  compromises  to  the  integrity.  Basically,  a  stereo  link  or  single  set  of

knobs  is  way  more  difficult  to  do  for  an  analog  EQ,  somewhat  easier  for  some  analog  compressors  and

linking  within  an  algorithm  is  extremely  easy.  Many  DSP  guys  envy  analog    for  how  simple  designs  often

just  sound  great,  we  analog-heads  envy  a  few  cheap  &  easy  aspects  of  digital.

Next  question…”Why  no  Manley  EQ  plug-in?”  Maybe  we  are  a  bit  too  picky,  but  we  haven’t  heard  a  plug  in

that  really  approximates  the  subtleties  of  an  inductor  based  EQ  or  even  a  transformer.  Maybe  some  day,  we’ll

combine  our  knowledge  with  some  DSP  wizard’s  knowledge  and  do  something  cool,  and  cheap  (which  is

really  what  you  are  asking  for,  right?).  We  might  also  say,  that  we  would  prefer  to  do  something  new  and

different  than  try  to  clone  our  existing  stuff.  If  and  when  Manley  does  a  plug-in  it  should  be  at  least  as  radical

and  special  as  the  hardware.  In  other  words,  take  advantage  of  digital  technology  and  do  what  it  can  do  best,

rather  than  the  questionable  effort  of  trying  to  recreate  (again)  analog  processes  especially  if  this  is  where

digital  technology  is  at  its  weakest  or  most  immature  for  now.  However,  like  yourselves,  we  do  use  plug-ins,

music  programs,  etc,  and  evaluate  too  many  to  name,  and  we  are  keeping  our  ears  and  eyes  open.  Of  course,

some  of  you  know  that  the  we  have  contributed  to  some  non-Manley  plug-ins  that  are  highly  regarded.

Meanwhile  progress  continues  and  we  are  continuing  to  listen,  and  maybe  some  day  we'll  hook  up  with  some

adventurous  DSP  hot  shots  with  more  on  their  minds  than  "clone  market  $".  We've  lost  count  on  how  many

1176  and  N*VE  emulations  and  simulations  and  copies  and  look-alikes  there  are.  One  was  enough  and  none

seem  to  truly  stand  out,  but  all  seem  to  fall  short  of  the  original  for  most  pundits.    In  fact,  in  their  day,  most  of

the  originals  had  a  far  weaker  reputation  (disposable)  than  eBay  sellers  might  want  you  to  think  about.

Or  this  question…”  Have  you  guys  thought  about  digital  controlled  analog  so  that  maybe  we  can  control  the

EQ  like  a  plug-in  and  automate  or  even  recall  settings?”  Gee,  we  would  love  to  but…..  we,  as  an  industry,

just  don’t  have  the  technology  yet  that  would  enable  that  without  compromising  the  signal  integrity  (and  do  it

at  a  reasonable  cost).  For  us,  that  has  to  be  a  prime  consideration,  and  it  is  really  why  most  of  our  customers

come  to  Manley.  We’ve  been  approached  by  a  few  companies  asking  to  put  our  front  panels  on  a  computer

screen  for  recalls,  but  none  have  suggested  any  reason  why  that  would  be  better  or  more  accurate  or  cheaper

than  a  pencil  and  paper,  especially  when  we  supply  a  paper  template  in  the  back  of  the  manual.  So,  our

decisions  are  based  on  why  people  buy  our  stuff,  which  is  usually  the  quality  and  sound.  Meanwhile,  we  are

keeping  our  ears  and  eyes  open  for  some  enabling  technology  that  might  allow  no-loss    remote  control  .

Or  the  big  question…”Why  do  analog  EQs  sound  better  or  at  least  different  than  my  50  plug-ins?”  Maybe

DSP  guys  trying  to  model  analog    have  zero  experience  with  analog  (or  music  production).  Maybe  young

guys  who  haven’t  yet  developed  their  ears  are  developing  audio  software.  Maybe  we  can  motivate  the  DSP

wizards  to  develop  their  hearing  if  we  point  out  that  the  best  analog  was  all  done  by  guys  with  great

ears.Maybe  FIR  filters  used  everywhere  in  digital  audio  might  be  a  little  more  audible  than  some  gurus

presume.  Maybe  human  hearing  and  both  analog  and  digital  processing  are  deeper  topics  than  most  people

believe  and  all  of  us  are  still  learning.    The  good  news  is  that  the  difference  is  narrowing  every  year  and

maybe  some  day  the  choice  will  be  mostly  whether  this  signal  path  is  analog  or  digital  or  the  order  that  you

prefer  to  process  or  whether  you  prefer  LCD  screens  or  physical  knobs  and  switches.

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Summary of Contents for Langevin Mini Massive

Page 1: ...SIVE MINI MASSIVE MINI MASSIVE STEREO EQ STEREO EQ STEREO EQ STEREO EQ STEREO EQ MANLEY LABORATORIES INC 13880 MAGNOLIA AVE CHINO CA 91710 TEL 909 627 4256 FAX 909 628 2482 http www manleylabs com ema...

Page 2: ...UPER PULTEC 10 THE PASSIVE PARAMETRIC 11 WHY PASSIVE WHY PARALLEL 12 PHASE SHIFT WHY TUBES 13 CURVES 14 16 TRIMS and The GUTZ 17 MAINS VOLTAGE SETTING 18 EQUALIZING EQUALIZERS GENERAL 19 EQUALIZER TEC...

Page 3: ...vintage EQ a few good digital EQs the Mini Massive holds a place in your arsenal for it s unique flavor and capabilities Some sections of this manual have been directly borrowed from the Massive Pass...

Page 4: ...is hot or and Pin 3 is low or These outputs are not the typical pseudo balanced or cross coupled type which automatically compensate for unbalanced inputs but are often unstable and may significantly...

Page 5: ...B controls which allow you to just boost or cut a little bit if desired filters never have these controls The High band also has a special setting labelled BELL 2 that only operates on the 4 highest f...

Page 6: ...wide bell on conventional EQs with more energy boost or cut and at first impression the Massivo seems to work backward compared with that and narrow bandwidths give more drastic results On the Massiv...

Page 7: ...s where subtlety is required like vocals and mastering 9 Of course the Mini will get compared to the Massive Passive which gets compared to vintage Pultecs and to Manley s Enhanced Pultec EQs so maybe...

Page 8: ...t want a processor or preamplifier that doesn t leave its thumbprint on the sound Typically mastering is one place for a transparent EQ especially when the mix is already pretty damn fine Other situat...

Page 9: ...s and eyes open Of course some of you know that the we have contributed to some non Manley plug ins that are highly regarded Meanwhile progress continues and we are continuing to listen and maybe some...

Page 10: ...with these goals modern parametric like operation passive tone techniques through out and features different from anything currently available and it had to sound spectacular The Super Pultec Manley...

Page 11: ...ith center detented pots Mechanical center and electrical center are rarely the same The Passive Parametric For years we had been getting requests for a Manley parametric equalizer but it looked daunt...

Page 12: ...cing to get some hum bucking action but avoid magnetic coupling with careful positioning Some kinds of interaction suck and some are beneficial Why Passive If you hate tech talk just skip this section...

Page 13: ...Thisisprobablythemostmisunderstoodtermfloating aboutinthemixingcommunity Lotsofpeopleblameornamephase shift for just about any audio problem that doesn t sound like typical distortion We ask that you...

Page 14: ...most EQs a 100Hz low shelf doesn t reach max until about 10 Hz 14 FREQUENCY RESPONSE BANDWIDTHSETTING AT1 1 00 LOWFREQSHEL VES 22 33 47 68arenew 20 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18...

Page 15: ...ELF BOOSTING THE HALF WAY 10 dB POINT HAS SHIFTED TO 50 Hz THESE CURVES SHOW ONE OF THE IDEOSYNCRACIES AND IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A LF BOOST TO SOUND AS IF IT HAS LESS LOWS DEPENDING ON THE FREQUENCY AND...

Page 16: ...andwidth Bandwidth at 12 00 Narrow Bandwidth dB set at max 20 dB and changing the Bandwidth Max Boost Narrow Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Narrow Bandwidth Max Boost Wide Bandwidth 12 00 Boost Wide Bandwidth...

Page 17: ...Manley Langevin dealers are capable of making the change if needed Part of the reason we did this is to discourage some grey market sales However the following page does show this section of the boar...

Page 18: ...8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 FOR 100 VAC CUT THE TRACES BETWEEN 5 7 AND 7 8 A PCB TRACE SHOULD EXIST FROM 1 2 SOLDER JUMPERS FROM PADS 4 6 AND 6 8 FOR 117 VAC PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARD TRACES SHOULD EXIST ON THE BOT...

Page 19: ...lug in digital EQ with the same 3 predictable knobs per band as the analog EQs The only significant digital variation on the parametric concept has been the linear phase equalizers These are the first...

Page 20: ...will be to finesse your available EQ Hit Record finesse it in the mix More important to get the vibe than to burn out the band doing sound checks and tweaks If mic choice is a mystery you might want...

Page 21: ...vidual units like mics like rooms consoles engineers The last problem was that they only had a few weeks to shout at each other Avoidthattechnique Yougottabecreative playitbyear use your own variation...

Page 22: ...n Percussion There are two big tricks The first is don t trust VU meters usepeakmetersanddon tgettooclosetofullscale Thekey word is percussion and the peaks or transients are very short and impressive...

Page 23: ...o you understand the difference its not just attitude 3 Therestofthegearinmajormasteringhousesisalsosoimportant that cost is no object The engineers regularly shoot out new gearandwillalwaysbuyifitISb...

Page 24: ...what adventures you are having with the Mini Massive The Circuit The Mini Massive is a not a particularly complicated circuit The audio comes in is converted from balanced to unbalanced and DC servo...

Page 25: ...the most forgiving and automatic method to interface given that the ouput is floating and either leg can be grounded without a loss of headroom and with less groundloop difficulties Technicalities asi...

Page 26: ...a lot of freestyle sports but in audio it often runs the risk of painfully bright or screaming highs Telephone Sound First try deep shelf cuts using the two bands set approximately for 470 and 3900 E...

Page 27: ...amps from left to right a pair at a time and verify whether one is not at all well retired early a little dead and arrange to swap the bad amp with your dealer or Manley Another possibility is a powe...

Page 28: ...that donotagreewithanothercompany sDAT Onecannottrustthemtotrulyindicatepeaksorovers Outboarddigitalpeakmeters with switchable peak hold that indicate overs as 3 or 4 consecutive samples at either Ful...

Page 29: ...ut the conversion should only be done by a qualified technician 29 Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment WEEE Information for customers The European Parliament and the Council of the European Unio...

Page 30: ...ref to 30 dBm Input Impedance 20 K ohms Output Impedance 60 ohms transformer 300 ohms Power Consumption 15 watts 100 mA 115VAC Fuse 1 Amp Slo Blo 120VAC 0 5 Amp Slo Blo 230VAC Size 1U 19 x 1 75 x 10...

Page 31: ...20 P B EQ IN POWER BELL BELL HZ HZ HZ HZ NJOJ BY MANLEY LABS FREQUENCY 22 33 47 68 100 150 220 330 470 680 1K LEVEL 0 8 20 P B NBTTJWF BOOST OUT CUT LOW FREQUENCY EQ BANDWIDTH SHELF BELL 560 820 1K2...

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