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V-MAC Co-Pilot Operator's Manual 111

CO-PILOT® INTERRUPT SCREENS

Idle Shutdown Warning

The IDLE SHUTDOWN WARNING screen displays a timer warning and an alarm
sounds to inform the driver that the vehicle is going to shut down until the condition
goes away or the driver acknowledges the warning by pressing the

Enter

(

)

button.

W3036652

Figure 60 — Idle Shutdown Warning Screen

Driver Overspeed Warning (if Available)

The DRIVER OVERSPEED WARNING screen appears and an alarm sounds when
the driver exceeds a speed threshold. This screen is displayed until the driver
acknowledges the warning and alarm by pressing the

Enter

(

)

button or decelerates

below the threshold. The alarm will sound again if the threshold is exceeded.

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Summary of Contents for V-MAC IV

Page 1: ...d in U S A E L E C T R O N I C V MAC IV VEHICLE MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL WITH CO PILOT DISPLAY E L E C T R O N I C V MAC IV VEHICLE MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL WITH CO PILOT DISPLAY 22196032 January 2014 221...

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Page 3: ...nual are used for reference only and may differ slightly from the actual vehicle However key components addressed in this document are represented as accurately as possible Mack Trucks Inc Greensboro...

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Page 5: ...on 29 Aftertreatment Driver Warning and Inducement 37 Aftertreatment DEF Tank Level Driver Warning Inducement 37 Aftertreatment DEF Quality Driver Warning Inducement 39 Aftertreatment Tampering Driver...

Page 6: ...mming 73 Instrument Cluster Components 74 Driver Information Display 75 CO PILOT DISPLAY 76 Introduction and Purpose 76 CO PILOT SYSTEM OVERVIEW 77 Set Up Programming 77 CO PILOT OPERATIONS 81 Using t...

Page 7: ...g 113 Maintenance Reminder for Future Support 114 GuardDog Monitor 114 Low Voltage Disconnect Active 115 Inter Wheel Lock 115 Smart Idle Active 116 Starter Inhibit 116 Priority Message in Road Connect...

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Page 9: ...a specific chassis The information specifications and illustrations in this publication are based on information that was current at the time of publication No part of this publication may be reprodu...

Page 10: ...otes are used to emphasize areas of procedural importance and provide suggestions for ease of repair The following definitions indicate the use of these advisory labels as they appear throughout the m...

Page 11: ...by the service method he selects Individuals deviating in any manner from the instructions provided assume all risks of consequential personal injury or damage to equipment involved Also note that pa...

Page 12: ...fail suddenly and unexpectedly resulting in severe personal injury or death Always use jackstands of adequate capacity to support the weight of the vehicle WARNING When working on a vehicle by using...

Page 13: ...as the hose material may not be rated for the high temperature CAUTION When the inhibit position is pressed the DPF switch will remain in a locked position It is important therefore to immediately se...

Page 14: ...ALWAYS wear safety glasses and protective shoes Avoid injury by being aware of sharp corners and jagged edges Use hoists or jacks to lift or move heavy objects NEVER run engine indoors unless exhaust...

Page 15: ...ement and control functions the following sensors provide information to the system Air Brake Application Sensor Air Suspension Sensor Air Humidity Sensor Ambient Air Temperature AAT Sensor Intake Man...

Page 16: ...d Sensor Vehicle Speed Road Speed Sensor Water in Fuel Filter Sensor The following switches and functions are also monitored to provide information related to driver actions A C Pressure Switch Option...

Page 17: ...own in CHU CXU GU model shown The Vehicle Electronic Control Unit VECU is an electronic control module which provides a wide variety of functions including Cruise Control Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC L...

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Page 19: ...Level ECL Engine Coolant Temperature ECT Customer Road Speed Limiting Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC Logging Engine Oil Pressure EOP Engine Oil Temperature EOT Engine Protection Engine Shutdown Engine Sl...

Page 20: ...12 V MAC Co Pilot Operator s Manual C0035360 Engine Control Module ECM MACK MP7 https truckmanualshub com...

Page 21: ...lot only The Instrument Cluster provides the following information Air Brake Application Optional Air Filter Restriction Air Suspension Pressure Axle Oil Temperature Optional Brake Wear Coolant Temper...

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Page 23: ...functions such as to retrieve fault codes and view trip information The GDM provides the following information Air Brake Application Air Cleaner Restriction Air Suspension Pressure Axle Oil Temperatur...

Page 24: ...16 V MAC Co Pilot Operator s Manual C0035357 Figure 6 Location of GDM Passenger Side Against Back of Cab C0035431 Figure 7 Location of GDM https truckmanualshub com...

Page 25: ...tdown Override Operation Optional Integrated Temp A Start Optional PTO Operation Cruise control and engine speed control functions are explained in this manual in CRUISE AND ENGINE SPEED CONTROL page...

Page 26: ...18 V MAC Co Pilot Operator s Manual W2076077 Figure 8 Cab and Dashboard Switches Example https truckmanualshub com...

Page 27: ...ic malfunction indicator stays on while this test is being performed approximately six seconds After the self test is completed the indicator will turn off and remain off unless a problem is detected...

Page 28: ...e high The HEST indicator will also illuminate during a aftertreatment diesel particulate filter DPF parked regeneration event and will turn off after the regeneration is completed and the exhaust EGT...

Page 29: ...and the red shutdown indicator will turn on when vehicle management and control V MAC IV detects a problem or excessive periods of idling Shutting the engine down is warranted The shutdown warning ind...

Page 30: ...ature reaches 240 C 464 F a 100 derate occurs No engine shutdown No warning indicators Crankcase Pressure CCP If a change in pressure difference between the CCP and barometric pressure BARO rises abou...

Page 31: ...er ratio is 1 7 Red engine shutdown indicator lights up when soot trigger ratio is 1 7 For Non Catalyzed ATS Derate starts when soot trigger ratio is 1 15 Amber malfunction indicator lights up when so...

Page 32: ...e Switch The idle shutdown override switch permits the operator to override an idle shutdown W2076075 Figure 13 Panel Idle Shutdown Override Switch Aftertreatment DPF Smart Switch W2076076 Figure 14 A...

Page 33: ...when the icons on the switch are illuminated Indicates that a regeneration has been stopped when the DOWN position of the switch is pressed locked and illuminated Stops a regeneration event when the D...

Page 34: ...e exhaust aftertreatment systems For non catalyzed exhaust aftertreatment systems Vehicle speed must be at least 8 km h 5 mi h in order for the passive regeneration to start Icons on the DPF Smart swi...

Page 35: ...ff 3 Regeneration will take between 20 and 30 minutes to complete 4 If the regeneration process needs to be stopped and performed at a later time please refer to Aftertreatment DPF Inhibit Stop Regene...

Page 36: ...attached to an exhaust ventilation system as the hose material may not be rated for the high temperature 2 Press and hold the top part of the DPF Smart switch momentarily to initiate the regeneration...

Page 37: ...will remain locked in this position and prevent aftertreatment DPF regeneration from occurring Therefore it is important to press the switch back to the middle position and to return it to standby mod...

Page 38: ...tment System Condition Regeneration needed DPF is becoming full Regeneration is required DPF is full Aftertreatment System Service Required Engine Derate Active Engine Performance is limited Soot Leve...

Page 39: ...tion to complete Note Failure to perform the regeneration will take the Aftertreatment System to Level 3 Perform a parked manual regeneration IMMEDIATELY to avoid further engine derate and damage to t...

Page 40: ...tertreatment System Condition Regeneration needed DPF is becoming full Regeneration is required DPF is full Aftertreatment System Service Required Engine Derate Active Engine Performance is limited So...

Page 41: ...low the engine to run and the regeneration to complete Note Failure to perform the regeneration will take the Aftertreatment System to Level 3 Perform a parked manual regeneration IMMEDIATELY to avoid...

Page 42: ...n Regeneration needed Aftertreatment Diesel Particulate Filter DPF is becoming full Regeneration is required DPF is full Aftertreatment System Service Required Engine Derate Active Engine Performance...

Page 43: ...a safe location away from overhanging objects park brake applied Press and hold the top of the DPF Smart switch momentarily Allow the DPF regeneration process to complete Note Failure to perform the r...

Page 44: ...or will turn on to warn of high engine exhaust gas temperature EGT and will stay on during aftertreatment diesel particulate filter DPF regeneration DPF Smart switch indicator will shut off during the...

Page 45: ...l gauge Note Repeated acts of tampering will result in more severe Inducement Triggers Aftertreatment DEF Tank Low Level Indicator Driver Information Display Screen 100 to 12 Aftertreatment DEF Tank L...

Page 46: ...Information Display Screen DEF tank empty and refueling event with parking brake applied W2029415 Refill DEF Tank Vehicle Speed Limited to 5 Mph Vehicle Stationary for 20 minutes or Engine re start K...

Page 47: ...n Derate 5 Mph Limit in ___ mins Note Once this DEF Quality fault occurs the DID timer displays The timer displays the minutes available before the 5 mph derate occurs The timer can be cleared using t...

Page 48: ...after the key cycle one time only W3 031 623 SCR Performance Evaluation Continue Driving 5 Mph Limit Temporarily Removed Exit conditions for DEF Quality 8 Km h 5 mph road speed limit Inducement Next 1...

Page 49: ...river Information Display DID screen associated with this fault are listed in the table below Triggers Aftertreatment Tampering Indicator Driver Information Display Screen No Fault None None Tampering...

Page 50: ...h derate occurs The timer can be cleared using the Escape ESC button on the stalk switch control lever When the vehicle is restarted after shutdown the remaining minutes before derate occurs will reap...

Page 51: ...abeled and filler necks and nozzles are different accidents can happen Contamination of fluids by misfilling of diesel or DEF in the wrong tank may result in vehicle malfunction Results of misfilling...

Page 52: ...isted in the tables below so that aftertreatment diesel particulate filter DPF regeneration whether automatic or manual can occur when commanded C0035438 Figure 18 Minimum Engine Speeds for MP7 with C...

Page 53: ...s follows Set parameter Enable Manual Regen During PTO JAC to Yes or On using VCADS This parameter can be found in the Misc Vehicle Settings section in Parameter Programming A connection to Central Sy...

Page 54: ...system conditioning is NOT available on vehicles equipped with a non catalyzed aftertreatment system Aftertreatment system conditioning purges the DPF of accumulated hydrocarbons typically every 8 to...

Page 55: ...resulting in damage to the PTO equipment or to the product being unloaded Note When selecting a PTO on a vehicle with a aftertreatment diesel particulate filter DPF it is important that the PTO be spe...

Page 56: ...starter 2 After the engine has started warm the engine until engine coolant temperature ECT reaches 60 C 140 F After reaching 60 C 140 F the engine can be operated normally Note If the engine does not...

Page 57: ...rol speeds as well as setting the engine low idle speed These functions are performed by using the speed control switches located on the dashboard Instructions for setting cruise control and engine sp...

Page 58: ...y similar to the cruise controls found on most automobiles The system will maintain a set speed and will allow acceleration and deceleration through the system switches Cruise control can be enabled o...

Page 59: ...activates or turns the switch OFF Note To shift simply disengage the clutch change gears then re engage the clutch Cruise control will resume automatically if programmed to Auto Resume When double clu...

Page 60: ...ch is pressed The new vehicle speed is set when the switch is released Press the DECEL switch to decelerate the vehicle The vehicle will decelerate for as long as the DECEL switch is pressed The new v...

Page 61: ...thod will disengage the cruise control while the clutch is disengaged and will resume the speed control when the clutch is re engaged This programmable option provides for automatic resume after shift...

Page 62: ...the system memory This mode is primarily intended for general PTO applications and engine warm up Note Brake conditions are configurable but the standard setting is park brake on and service brake off...

Page 63: ...unt default setting is 50 RPM VSC can also be programmed for Auto Set mode When enabled simply move the Speed Control switch to the ON position and activate a customer defined switch usually setting t...

Page 64: ...p gear road speed limit The purpose of this option is to encourage the operator to operate the vehicle in top gear where the optimum fuel economy can be achieved There are two programmable top gear Ve...

Page 65: ...hey are all visible through the cluster These settings are connected to legal requirements to keep overall vehicle speeds down and are defined when the vehicle is built They are valid until the vehicl...

Page 66: ...es that are available will start decreasing If there is no time available the vehicle will not accelerate and a different pop up will be shown W3082728 If the cluster does not receive the specified da...

Page 67: ...til after two more hours of operation 5 5 minutes added Vehicle Speed Limits VSL Manual Soft Top cannot be disabled until the vehicle mileage reaches 804672 km 500000 miles Vehicle Speed Limiter The V...

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Page 69: ...no fuel is requested by vehicle management and control V MAC IV and engine speed RPM is greater than 900 RPM To disengage the brake move the switch to the OFF position or press the accelerator pedal A...

Page 70: ...eters Daytime Running Lights Driver Display Parameters Electronic Hand Throttle EHT Control Parameters Engine Brake Delay in Cruise Engine Governor Parameters Engine Protection Parameters Engine Sleep...

Page 71: ...brake engagement delay feature engagement of the engine speed RPM is delayed in cruise control to reduce engine brake cycling The brake will engage 3 2 km h 2 mi h above the cruise set speed The engin...

Page 72: ...talyzed exhaust aftertreatment system This provides flexibility to set the low idle to the smoothest engine speed for the vehicle There are two steps required to reset the low idle speed The first ste...

Page 73: ...pedal until the desired engine speed is reached 2 Use the speed control switches to adjust idle speed 3 Depress and release the clutch pedal to store idle speed This speed is now locked into vehicle...

Page 74: ...icator will illuminate and the idle shutdown function can be overridden If AAT is within range idle shutdown remains active and the red shutdown indicator will illuminate as a warning refer to the VCA...

Page 75: ...ntil the timer reaches zero If a pyrometer is installed the idle cooldown function will use the pyrometer reading shutting the engine down when the temperature drops below 232 C 450 F or after 3 5 min...

Page 76: ...ide with the vehicle moving the time limit may be set between 1 and 25 minutes with the vehicle parked there is no time limit The operator may disengage the fan cancel the override after 30 seconds by...

Page 77: ...arily turned off until high beam use ceases DRLs offer additional safety when driving in low light conditions when the operator may not normally turn the headlights on Having headlights on at all time...

Page 78: ...a the Co Pilot instrument cluster display if available and enabled Note Safety overrides will prevent the system from activating if the transmission is in gear the hood is up or the parking brake is r...

Page 79: ...tected by a 15 amp circuit breaker Ignition Post IGN This is a 12 volt switched battery power connection It can be used to power external devices that require power only when the ignition key is ON Th...

Page 80: ...e It conforms to the SAE ATA J 1708 Recommended Practice for Serial Data Communications Between Microcomputer Systems In Heavy Duty Vehicle Applications CB Radio Power Jack CB Radio Located on Dashboa...

Page 81: ...mmodate his needs The instrument cluster display is user friendly and prompts the driver with messages on the driver information display Dash Cluster Set Up Programming Some features and functions lis...

Page 82: ...ators Although not a part of the dash cluster components but nevertheless part of the dash cluster tool is the stalk switch for Co Pilot only located on the right side of the steering column The follo...

Page 83: ...ion as time temperature trip mileage trip fuel warning information and diagnostic trouble codes DTCs The driver information display also contains a menu where the driver can access and adjust function...

Page 84: ...ion with the stalk switch The Co Pilot is very user friendly and prompts the operator with messages on the display screen Beginning with Co Pilot features include the following Fuel Economy Informatio...

Page 85: ...ily be programmed by the dealer or customer using MACK s scan tool with VCADS software to make these features available through the Co Pilot If your Co Pilot does not display any of the features liste...

Page 86: ...A Start optional Program settings If ordered there are several parameters here Maintenance Reset Reset Maintenance items Disabled DEL Messages Driver enters in Driver Event Logging Messages Disabled N...

Page 87: ...reen 1 Time 2 Mileage 3 Ambient Air Temp AAT 4 Information Area 5 Sweet Spot Indicator 6 Bonus Penalty 7 Engine Brake 8 Maintenance 9 Overspeed Idle 10 Gear with automated transmission 11 Active Cruis...

Page 88: ...ilot display The Esc or Escape button 1 is used to return to the previous menu or display or to cancel a setting or operation The Enter button 3 is used to display a list of menus open a menu and sele...

Page 89: ...hicle Management and Control V MAC IV is programmed to get driver at key on then the CHANGE DRIVER screen will appear Messages on the screen will prompt the driver to press the Enter button to accept...

Page 90: ...ledge a pop up screen Sometimes the Enter button takes the Co Pilot display back to the previous screen Up Down Buttons The Up Down buttons at the end of the stalk switch allow the user to highlight t...

Page 91: ...reen choices disappear from the stationary MAIN MENU screen when the vehicle begins moving and are replaced with the last anytime screen Individual Stationary Screens are discussed in more detail in I...

Page 92: ...vehicle has the Driver ID feature when the vehicle is started the Enter Driver ID screen appears in the DID The operator enters the appropriate driver ID at that time 1 The first number will be highl...

Page 93: ...s Enter again W3067469 If driver does not enter the Driver ID after starting the vehicle the Enter Driver ID screen displays The Driver ID should be entered at the next vehicle stop This screen will d...

Page 94: ...d press the Enter button on the stalk switch control lever The Command Accepted screen displays Press Enter again W3067469 If there is a system issue with confirming the Drivers ID the ERROR Driver Nu...

Page 95: ...isplay every 30 minutes until the proper ID is entered There is also an audible warning emitted until the Driver ID is entered as well W3067468 If the Driver ID is entered and the vehicle is turned of...

Page 96: ...l to Change Driver ID Press Enter W0069618 The Enter Driver ID screen displays Enter the new Driver ID 1 The first number will be highlighted in the DID screen Use the up and down arrows of the stalk...

Page 97: ...rmation is sent for confirmation via MACK Link to a vehicles main office The new Driver ID is received and confirmed W3067471 Press the ESC button to return to the main screen If there is a system iss...

Page 98: ...s options the following screens will appear MACK Logo Intro Theft Deterrence if equipped GuardDog if equipped Current Conditions Compass Screen MACK Logo Intro The MACK LOGO INTRO screen is displayed...

Page 99: ...OGO INTRO screen Messages prompt the driver to enter a password If an incorrect password is entered after a predetermined number of attempts access is denied and the vehicle will shut down and not all...

Page 100: ...d the THEFT DETERRENT screen if programmed The screen waits to acquire data from the truck and will display maintenance items needing service For more GuardDog screens please refer to the CO PILOT STA...

Page 101: ...MAC Co Pilot Operator s Manual 93 Compass Screen The Compass Screen will appear after the Guard Dog if equipped The way to enter this is MENU Gauges VIEW Other Gauges W3083580 https truckmanualshub co...

Page 102: ...items sweet spot information when the engine is being operated at its most efficient range bonus or penalty mode alerts the driver if vehicle speed and cruise maximum speed can be increased or decrea...

Page 103: ...on supplied in a submenu structure Fuel Economy Anytime and Stationary Screens Trip Information Anytime and Stationary Screens Gauges Anytime and Stationary Screens Fleet Management Stationary Screens...

Page 104: ...llowing information supplied in a submenu structure Fuel Economy Anytime and Stationary Screens Trip Information Anytime and Stationary Screens Gauges Anytime and Stationary Screens Note To view any o...

Page 105: ...elect a screen enter a value accept a change or return to the previous screen Use the ESC button to return to the previous screen Fuel Economy The FUEL ECONOMY submenu screen is displayed by selecting...

Page 106: ...ion to be reset if desired or to suspend and activate a current driver trip When two drivers are driving a scheduled trip and driver 1 has completed the trip segment the Driver Trip 1 segment must be...

Page 107: ...le LOV trip information Average Fuel Economy PTO Time Average Vehicle Speed Sweet Spot Time Cruise Time Total Fuel Used Engine Brake Time Vehicle Highest Speed Engine Highest RPM Vehicle Time Idle Tim...

Page 108: ...r Allows the user to view the current speedometer value View Temp Gauges Displays engine coolant temperature ECT engine oil temperature EOT engine exhaust gas temperature EGT transmission oil temperat...

Page 109: ...the Co Pilot display Highlight Black Panel from the moving MAIN MENU screen or stationary MAIN MENU 1 screen and then press the stalk switch Enter button to select it To restore the Co Pilot display p...

Page 110: ...the following Use the stalk switch Up Down button to scroll and highlight an item scroll to the next screen or enter a value Use the Enter button to select a screen enter a value accept a change or r...

Page 111: ...e user to change drivers There are three ways to change driver entries W3065133 1 Enter driver ID using the stalk switch Up Down button to type in the driver identification number 2 Pick an ID from th...

Page 112: ...creen The DIAGNOSTICS submenu screen contains the following main screens Cluster Diagnostics Allows the user to test bulbs pointers on gauges graphics and alarms associated with the cluster Hardware S...

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Page 114: ...optional must be enabled GuardDog an active maintenance monitoring system uses sensor readings to show the status of routine maintenance requirements If the vehicle is equipped with the GuardDog syste...

Page 115: ...to provide data If the engine is started within this time period with no valid oil level reading the Co Pilot will display the message Unable to obtain the oil level data Engine started too soon W3036...

Page 116: ...tor on the instrument cluster will illuminate to notify the driver DPF Inhibit Status Indicates why the aftertreatment diesel particulate filter DPF regeneration was not started To view the DPF Inhibi...

Page 117: ...ould select the LEAVE TERMINAL message To view the list of driver event logging messages in the DEL MESSAGES submenu highlight Messages with the stalk switch Up Down button and then press the Enter bu...

Page 118: ...unit of measure for temperature distance fuel and pressure Driver Over Speed Alarm if available and for future support Allows the user to designate a personal speed limit If this speed is exceeded an...

Page 119: ...acknowledges the warning by pressing the Enter button W3036652 Figure 60 Idle Shutdown Warning Screen Driver Overspeed Warning if Available The DRIVER OVERSPEED WARNING screen appears and an alarm sou...

Page 120: ...an alarm sounds when the driver exceeds the Severe Engine Overspeed threshold This screen is displayed until the driver decelerates below the threshold W3036653 Figure 61 Warning Severe Engine Overspe...

Page 121: ...er button and correcting the situation W3036655 Figure 63 Warning Severe Engine and Brake Overspeed Screen Severe Engine Engine Brake Overspeed Warning The WARNING SEVERE ENGINE ENGINE BRAKE OVERSPEED...

Page 122: ...needing maintenance Press the Enter button to acknowledge the reminder and return to the previous screen The MAINTENANCE REMINDER screen will appear again at the next power up until the maintenance is...

Page 123: ...unnecessary accessory functions that may have caused low voltage W3036657 Figure 65 Low Voltage Disconnect Active Screen Inter Wheel Lock The INTER WHEEL LOCK screen appears when the Inter Wheel lock...

Page 124: ...n satisfied The driver should acknowledge the message by pressing the Enter button W3036659 Figure 67 Smart Idle Active Screen Starter Inhibit The STARTER INHIBIT screen appears to alert the driver th...

Page 125: ...Enter button and read the message at the next scheduled stop W3036661 Figure 69 Priority Message in Road Connect Screen Driver Trip Reset The RESET screens are activated when the Reset Driver Trip opt...

Page 126: ...AGEMENT submenu C0035413 Figure 71 Next Fleet Trip Screen Idle Cooldown Activated The IDLE COOLDOWN ACTIVATED screen appears when the driver turns the ignition key to the OFF position Idle Cooldown is...

Page 127: ...ow fuel quantity the low fuel indicator will illuminate on the cluster display and the Co Pilot will display the LOW FUEL WARNING screen The driver should acknowledge these screens by pressing the Ent...

Page 128: ...rt iTAS saves fuel by reducing the amount of time spent idling to keep the vehicle s batteries charged the engine warm and the cab or sleeper comfortable Once the optional iTAS feature is activated vi...

Page 129: ...ation Vehicle Tracking The Road Connect submenu screen is selected from the anytime MAIN MENU 1 screen if enabled To view the screens of Road Connect highlight Road Connect with the stalk switch Up Do...

Page 130: ...to the Road Connect Driver s Handbook when available ROAD CONNECT is a service mark owned by First Advantage Tax Consulting Services LLC First Advantage offers a complementary line of fleet management...

Page 131: ...control V MAC IV is programmed to get driver at key on or for theft deterrence refer to Figure 41 then the CHANGE DRIVER screen refer to Figure 52 will appear Messages on the screen will prompt the dr...

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