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L8104A,B,C,D

SPECIFICATIONS • ORDERING INFORMATION

Specifications

IMPORTANT: The specifications given in this publication

do not include normal manufacturing tolerances.
Therefore, this unit may not exactly match the listed
specifications. Also, this product is tested and cali-
brated under closely controlled conditions, and some
minor differences in performance can be expected if
those conditions are changed.

MODELS:

L8104A Electronic Commercial Water Heater Control-

ler: Includes electronic control module, single sensing
bulb containing thermistor and ECO switch, and re-
mote- or board-mounted potentiometer.

L8104B Electronic Commercial Water Heater Control-

ler: Includes electronic control module, two sensing
bulbs (one with thermistor and ECO switch and one
with thermistor only), and remote- or board-mounted
potentiometer. Models are available with sensing au-
thority allocated between the upper and lower sensing
bulbs in ratios of 1:1, 2:1, 3:1 and 4:1; specify when
ordering.

L8104C Electronic Commercial Water Heater Control-

ler: Same as the L8104B with additional circuitry to
manually reset the ECO switch.

L8104D Electronic Commercial Water Heater Control-

ler: Same as the L8104A with additional circuitry to
manually reset the ECO switch.

ELECTRICAL RATINGS:

Power Supply: 24 Vac, 50/60 Hz.
Gas Control Relay Contacts:

Inductive: 2A full load, 10A locked rotor.
Resistive: 2A.

TEMPERATURE SETTING RANGE: Temperature range

factory set to meet application requirements. Maximum
setting temperature is 200

°

F (93

°

C). Specify desired

range when ordering.

Ordering Information

When purchasing replacement and modernization products from your TRADELINE® wholesaler or your distributor, refer to the Tradeline
Catalog or price sheets for complete ordering number, or specify—

1. Order number.

6. Potentiometer mounted on electronic module or remote unit.

2. Temperature setting range desired.

7. Setting scale for board-mounted potentiometer.

3. Differential setting desired.

8. Sensing authority desired (L8104B,C only).

4. ECO cutout temperature desired.

9. Sensing bulb: Specify style, material, and lead wire length.

5. Recycling or nonrecycling ECO switch.

10. Additional system components, if desired.

If you have additional questions, need further information, or would like to comment on our products or services, please write or phone:

1. Your local Honeywell Home and Building Control Sales Office (please check the white pages of your phone directory).
2. Home and Building Control Customer Logistics

Honeywell Inc., 1885 Douglas Drive North
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55422-4386

In Canada—Honeywell Limited/Honeywell Limitée, 35 Dynamic Drive, Scarborough, Ontario M1V 4Z9. International Sales and
Service Offices in all principal cities of the world. Manufacturing in Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Japan, Mexico,
Netherlands, Spain, Taiwan, United Kingdom, U.S.A.

DIFFERENTIAL: Factory set from 2 

±

 0.5

°

F (1 

±

 0.3

°

C) to

15 

±

 4.5

°

F (8 

±

 2.5

°

C). Specify when ordering.

AMBIENT TEMPERATURE RANGE AT MODULE: 0

°

F

to +175

°

F (-18

°

C to +80

°

C).

ECO LIMIT SWITCH: Recycling or nonrecycling (one-

shot). Sensing bulb must be replaced if nonrecycling ECO
switch opens. Cutout temperature is factory set to meet
application requirements. Specify type and desired cutout
temperature when ordering. Recycling ECO is used on
manual reset models (L8104C,D).

POTENTIOMETER:

Remote: Minimum setting is at fully counterclockwise

rotation. Has 12 in. (30 cm) leadwires on ter-

minals 1 and 2 and factory-mounted jumper across
terminals 2 and 3. Specify when ordering L8104.

Board-mounted: Setting scaleplate provided. Specify range

and board mounting when ordering L8104.

SENSING BULB: Bulbs available in several styles and

materials with various leadwire lengths. Thermistor sen-
sor and ECO limit are factory-mounted in bulb; leads
terminate with 1/4 in. quick connects. Second bulb on
L8104B contains only thermistor sensor; leads terminate
with 3/16 in. quick connects.

MOUNTING:

Electronic Control Module: Mounts on enclosed panel

with four no. 6 or 8 screws (obtained locally) through
standoffs on module corners. Can be mounted in loca-
tions that reach up to 95 percent relative humidity
(noncondensing), but avoid locations where water
may drip on module.

Sensing Bulbs: Can be mounted in immersion well or

directly immersed if properly sealed to prevent leak-
age. Well or seal must be ordered separately.

Setpoint Potentiometer: Remote potentiometer mounts

through panel with nut on threaded shaft.

Summary of Contents for L8104A

Page 1: ...ed in ratios of 1 1 2 1 3 1 and 4 1 Two sensing bulbs provide temperature averaging L8104C has two sensing bulbs and manual reset pushbutton L8104D has one sensing bulb and manual reset pushbutton 68 0063 3 Temperature range is factory set to meet application requirements Maximumsettingtemperatureis200 F 93 C ECO limit setting is factory set to meet application requirements For L8104A B standing p...

Page 2: ...h 5 Recycling or nonrecycling ECO switch 10 Additional system components if desired If you have additional questions need further information or would like to comment on our products or services please write or phone 1 Your local Honeywell Home and Building Control Sales Office please check the white pages of your phone directory 2 Home and Building Control Customer Logistics Honeywell Inc 1885 Do...

Page 3: ...TER M413 3 4 19 3 8 10 3 8 10 5 32 4 3 8 DIA 10 1 1 4 32 15 16 24 1 1 16 27 1 3 8 35 Fig 2 Approximate dimensions in in mm of L8104A B Electronic Control Module REPLACEMENT PARTS Replacement electronic control modules sensing bulbs and remote potentiometers are 140 1 2 0 160 180 1 0 0 SEN 1 SEN 2 LOWER UPPER 24 V HOT ONLY COM RELAY NO 3 8 10 1 2 13 1 1 8 29 9 32 7 1 25 3 15 32 88 2 15 16 75 170 DI...

Page 4: ...or Assembly 42 in 107 cm 150 C 302 F leadwires with 1 4 in quick connects 198799C Sensor Assembly 42 in 107 cm 105 C 221 F leadwires with 1 4 in quick connects 198799D Sensor Assembly 42 in 107 cm 105 C 221 F leadwires with 1 4 in quick connects 200636A Sensor Assembly 180 F to 201 F 83 C to 94 C cutoff temperature 22 in 56 cm 150 C 302 F leadwires 200636B Sensor Assembly 180 F to 201 F 83 C to 94...

Page 5: ...response Use heat conductive compound available in 4 oz can as Honeywell part no 107408 to fill the space between the bulb and the well and improve heat transfer characteris tics Make sure the bulb is held firmly in the well If the sensor is directly immersed use a 3 8 in x 1 2 in compression to M I P coupling or O ring and clamp to prevent leaks and keep bulb leadwires dry Electronic Control Modu...

Page 6: ... SUPPLY PROVIDE DISCONNECT MEANS AND OVERLOAD PROTECTION AS REQUIRED FACTORY INSTALLED JUMPER DO NOT REMOVE 1 4 IN TAB TERMINALS 3 3 16 IN TAB TERMINALS 3 SENSING BULB WITH ECO SWITCH 1 L1 HOT L2 1 4 4 4 5 5 5 2 3 2 L8104A BLACK BLACK RED RED SEN 1 LOWER HOT 24V ONLY COM RELAY NO 24V 3 4 5 1ST OPERATOR 2ND OPERATOR PILOT VALVE COM MAIN VALVE VR8440 OR VR844 S8600F H M S8610F H MV MV PV PV GND BURN...

Page 7: ... 24V ONLY HOT COM RELAY NO ECO CONNECTOR TH TR VR8200 GAS VLAVE 24V Q308 1 2 3 SETPOINT POTENTIOMETER SHOWN FROM BACK UPPER SEN 2 POT M129B POWER SUPPLY PROVIDE DISCONNECT MEANS AND OVERLOAD PROTECTION AS REQUIRED SENSING BULB WITH ECO SWITCH SENSING BULB 1 L1 HOT L2 1 2 3 4 2 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 L8104B BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK RED RED SEN 1 LOWER 24V HOT ONLY COM RELAY NO 24V UPPER SEN 2 140 1 2 0 160...

Page 8: ...0 9M 2 L8104C SEN 1 SEN 2 LOWER UPPER 24V PV ECO ECO VALVE COM LOAD POT 5 5 1ST OPERATOR 2ND OPERATOR PILOT COM MAIN VALVE DUAL VALVE COMBINAITON GAS CONTROL S8600H MV MV PV PV GND BURNER 24V GND 24V TH W OPT SPARK VENT DAMPER PLUG OPT BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK RED RED Q345 Q346 Q348 Q362 Q381 PILOT BURNER IGNITER SENSOR PILOT BURNER GROUND PILOT GAS SUPPLY CONTROLS IN 24V CIRCUIT MUST NOT BE IN GRO...

Page 9: ... CABLE LENGTH 3 FT 0 9M 2 L8104D SEN 1 LOWER 24V PV ECO ECO VALVE COM LOAD POT 5 5 1ST OPERATOR 2ND OPERATOR PILOT COM MAIN VALVE DUAL VALVE COMBINATION GAS CONTROL S8600H MV MV PV PV GND BURNER 24V GND 24V TH W OPT SPARK VENT DAMPER PLUG OPT BLACK BLACK RED RED Q345 Q346 Q348 Q362 Q381 PILOT BURNER IGNITER SENSOR PILOT BURNER GROUND PILOT GAS SUPPLY CONTROLS IN 24V CIRCUIT MUST NOT BE IN GROUND L...

Page 10: ...otely mounted potentiometer when used with L8104B Dual Bulb Controller MAXIMUM SETTING AT FULLY CLOCKWISE POSITION 200650 POTENTIOMETER 180 o F 135 o F 90o F 3 2 1 M133A TABLE 1 THERMISTOR RESISTANCE AT VARIOUS TEMPERATURES IN FAHRENHEIT Temp erature Resistance K ohms F 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 40 26109 25400 24712 24045 23399 22771 22163 21573 21000 20445 50 19906 19383 18876 18383 17905 17440 16990 1...

Page 11: ...perature drops below the ECO tempera ture Before the system will restart however the system must be reset On a standing pilot system the pilot must be relit On an electronic ignition system power to the 100 percent lockout ignition module must be off for one minute A nonrecycling one shot ECO switch will not remake The sensing bulb containing the switch must be replaced L8104C D The L8104C D uses ...

Page 12: ...RESISTANCE OF POTENTIOMETER WITH OHMMETER IS RESISTANCE GREATER THAN 1000 OHMS AT MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SETTING CHECKS FOR SHORT POTENTIOMETER OK REPLACE ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE RECONNECT ALL LEADS AND CHECK OUT SYSTEM SENSOR S MAY BE SHORTED OR OPEN CHECK FOR LOOSE BROKEN OR SHORTED WIRES REPLACE SENSING BULB S IF NECESSARY REPLACE SENSING BULB WITH ECO LIMIT AND CHECK OUT BALANCE OF SYSTEM REPLA...

Page 13: ...NSOR LEADS FROM ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE AND MEASURE RESISTANCE OF SENSOR S WITH OHMMETER SENSORS OK IS THE POTENTIOMETER REMOTE DISCONNECT POTENTIOMETER LEADS FROM ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE MEASURE RESISTANCE OF POTENTIOMETER WITH OHMMETER POTENTIOMETER OK REPLACE ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE RECONNECT ALL LEADS AND CHECK OUT SYSTEM YES NO NO YES NO YES YES YES NO NO M135B IS VOLTAGE BETWEEN 21 5 A...

Page 14: ...S AND CHECK OUT SYSTEM YES NO NO NO REFER TO TROUBLESHOOTING IF WATER IS TOO HOT SENSOR S MAY BE SHORTED OR OPEN CHECK FOR LOOSE BROKEN OR SHORTED WIRES REPLACE SENSING BULB S IF NECESSARY REPLACE ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE RECONNECT ALL LEADS AND CHECK OUT SYSTEM REPLACE POTENTIOMETER RECONNECT ALL LEADS AND CHECK OUT SYSTEM REPLACE SENSING BULB WITH ECO SWITCH NO YES DISCONNECT ECO LEADS AND MEAS...

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