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Section 2:   CAN/J1939 Diagnostics

CAN/J1939 Interface

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

The CEN N3218 digital regulator is compatible with

SAE J1939 communications standard for vehicle
networking.
CEN uses MIL-STD connector MS3112E12-10P to

interface between the N3218 and the vehicle J1939
databus and battery box sensors. Mating connector is
MS3116E12-10S or equivalent. If this connection is
not used, it must be sealed with connector cover

MS3181-12CA or equivalent. Connector pinout is

shown in Table 1. Message content is shown in Table 2.
Battery box sensing inputs connect to battery pack

positive terminal (pin J) and battery box thermistor
(pin H). Thermistor is 10K NTC with 32650

Ω

 

at 0ºC,

10000

Ω

 at 25ºC, 3601

Ω 

 at 50ºC and 1% inter-

changeability. Thermistor location should be chosen
so that it closely represents battery case tempera-

ture. Thermistor connects between pin H and vehicle
chassis, battery pack negative terminal, or negative

bus bar. If either sensing input (pin H or J) is not

used, regulator will default to internal temperature
and alternator voltage.

Pin

Identification

TABLE 1 – J1939 Connector

Circuit Identification

A
B
C

D
E

F

G
H

J
K

J1939+

J1939–

J1939/SHLD

B–/GND

Mfr use only
Mfr use only
Mfr use only

Ext. Temp. Sense

Ext. Voltage Sense

unused

Figure 3 –  J1939

Connector Pins

Regulator Readout

Expected Reading

TABLE 2 – N3218 Regulator/J1939 Readout  Diagnostics (see Table 3)

Action If Expected Reading Not Present

Alternator Speed
Alternator Voltage
Battery Voltage
Regulator Temp.
Alternator Current
Alternator Load
Battery Temp.
Stator Voltages

1500 to 8000 RPM

26 to 30 V (when charging)
26 to 30 V (when charging)

–40 to 125ºC

0 to 300 A

0 to 100%

–40 to 80ºC

10 to 18 V (when charging)

Check belts and pulley.
Check alternator drive and regulator IGN signal.
Check battery box voltage sense signal.
Check regulator.
Check alternator output cabling.
Check alternator output cabling.
Check battery box thermistor.
Check alternator belts and output.

Notes:
(1) Byte 1 broadcast closest to CAN frame ID.
(2) Contact C. E. Niehoff & Co. for definition of custom proprietary message content.

Table 3 — Message Data

PGN 

Name 

(1)

 

FED5 

Alt. Speed 

Alt. Speed 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FEF7 

Alt. Voltage 

 

 

Alt. Voltage 

 

 

Batt. Voltage 

FEA7 

Alt. Temp. 

 

 

 

Reg. Temp.   

 

 

 

FFC8 

Proprietary #1 

Alt. Current 

(2) 

(2) 

Alt. Hrs. 

Load 

Batt. Temp. 

FFC9 

Proprietary #2 

(2) 

(2) 

OVCO Count 

(2) 

(2) 

(2) 

(2) 

(2) 

FFCA 

Proprietary #3  Stator 1 Voltage 

Stator 2 Voltage 

 

 

 

 

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Section 2: CAN/J1939 Diagnostics

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Summary of Contents for N1240-3

Page 1: ...reading obtained Be sure the meter leads touch source area only Prevent short circuit damage to test leads or source by not allowing meter leads to touch other pins or exposed wires in test area Be sure to use CEN tools designed especially for trou bleshooting CEN alternators when available Resistance ohm testing Set meter to proper scale Be sure to zero the meter scale or identify the meter burde...

Page 2: ...egulator used with these units also is negative temperature compensated Setpoint is 28 8 0 5 V at 72 F when configured to operate with 6TMF type batteries provides overvoltage cutout OVCO Regulator will trip OVCO when system voltage rises above setpoint by 3 V for longer than 3 seconds OVCO feature detects high voltage and reacts by opening alternator field circuit and turning off alternator Resta...

Page 3: ...or Circuit Identification A B C D E F G H J K J1939 J1939 J1939 SHLD B GND Mfr use only Mfr use only Mfr use only Ext Temp Sense Ext Voltage Sense unused Figure 3 J1939 Connector Pins Regulator Readout Expected Reading TABLE 2 N3218 Regulator J1939 Readout Diagnostics seeTable 3 Action If Expected Reading Not Present Alternator Speed Alternator Voltage Battery Voltage Regulator Temp Alternator Cur...

Page 4: ...ING Shut down vehicle and restart engine If alternator functions normally after restart a no output condi tion was normal response of voltage regulator to overvoltage condition Inspect condition of electrical system If you have reset alternator once and electrical system returns to normal charge voltage condition there may have been a one time overvoltage spike that caused OVCO circuit to trip If ...

Page 5: ...y off engine off Does battery voltage exist at alternator B terminal Yes No Repair vehicle harness circuit to B terminal on alternator T T T T T T T T T T Set DMM to diode test Check continuity of thermal switch and rear stator diodes Connect red lead to pin B in harness plug Connect black lead to alternator B terminal Meter should read one diode drop approx 0 6 to 0 9 V Disconnect leads Connect r...

Page 6: ...in F in harness plug to alternator B terminal Touch shaft with steel tool to detect significant magnetism Is shaft magnetized Yes No Alternator is defective T T T T T Regulator is defective T T T T T T T T T T Yes No Alternator is defective T T T T T CONT D With DMM on resistance scale Connect red lead to pin E in harness plug Connect black lead to alternator B terminal Meter should read 0 ohms Ch...

Page 7: ...of these test procedures or if you need to locate a Factory Authorized Service Distributor please contact us at C E Niehoff Co 2021 Lee Street Evanston IL 60202 USA TEL 800 643 4633 USA and Canada TEL 847 866 6030 outside USA and Canada FAX 847 492 1242 E mail us at service CENiehoff com ...

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