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OUTLET TEMPERATURE COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT 

The  maximum  outlet  temperature  from  the  tempered  water  outlet  may  be  adjusted  to  compensate  for 
temperature losses  in the  pipe  work between  the  water heater outlet and sanitary fixtures. This adjustment 
may only be made by a plumber. 
 

 Warning:

 After adjustment of the tempering valve, the water temperature 

MUST NOT

 exceed 50°C from 

the first tap in the hot water pipe work after the water heater used for personal hygiene purposes, such as in a 
bathroom or ensuite. 
 
To adjust the maximum outlet temperature: 

 

Ensure the preset outlet temperature setting of the in-series gas booster has been set to 70°C and the 
gas booster is turned on. 

 

Locate  the  first  hot  tap  in  the  hot  water  pipe  work  after  the  water  heater  used  for  personal  hygiene 
purposes. 

 

Turn on the hot tap fully to achieve maximum flow. A flow rate of at least four (4) L / min is recommended. 

 

Using  a  thermometer,  measure  the  temperature  of  the  water  from  the  tap,  until  the  temperature  stops 
increasing. Allow at least one (1) minute to ensure the mixed water temperature has settled. 

If the water temperature is below 50°C the maximum outlet temperature of the 50°C limited outlet can be 
adjusted upwards. 

 

Remove the cap from the tempering valve to gain access to the adjusting spindle. 

 

Turn the spindle on the temperature limiting valve counter-clockwise. 

Turning  the  spindle  counter-clockwise  increases  the  outlet  water  temperature,  turning  it  clockwise 
decreases the outlet water temperature. 

 

Repeat the water temperature measurement from the same hot tap. 

 

Further adjust the temperature limiting valve as required, turning the spindle either counter-clockwise or 
clockwise to increase or decrease the outlet water temperature, until an acceptable water temperature not 
exceeding 50°C is measured at the same hot tap. 

 

Turn off the hot tap. 

 

Snap the cap back onto the tempering valve to cover the spindle. 

 
 
 

Содержание Solar Premier Loline 596270

Страница 1: ...er s Guide and Installation Instructions Solar Premier Loline 596270 Gas Boosted Water Heater WARNING Plumber Be Aware Use copper pipe ONLY Plastic pipe MUST NOT be used It is a requirement of a solar water heater installation that all pipe work be in copper and not plastic due to the effects of high water temperatures ...

Страница 2: ...t corrosion due to water running off the copper pipes assist in avoiding accidental contact with the solar pipe work as very high temperature closed circuit fluid can flow from the solar collectors to the solar storage tank and also reduce pipe heat losses The highest point of the solar hot and solar cold pipes must be where they connect to the solar collectors There MUST BE a continuous fall of a...

Страница 3: ...all 20 Installation Solar Storage Tank 24 Installation Solar Collectors 33 Storage Tank and Gas Booster Assembly 39 Connections Plumbing 45 Connections Electrical 49 Commissioning 51 Draining The Water Heater 66 RHEEM AUSTRALIA PTY LTD A B N 21 098 823 511 www rheem com au For Service Telephone 131 031 AUSTRALIA Warning Upon completion of the installation and commissioning of the water heater leav...

Страница 4: ...l be at your cost 2 3 Where a failed component or cylinder is replaced under this warranty the balance of the original warranty period will remain effective The replacement does not carry a new Rheem warranty 2 4 Where the water heater is installed outside the boundaries of a metropolitan area as defined by Rheem or further than 25 km from either a regional Rheem branch office or an Accredited Rhe...

Страница 5: ...c or other materials caused by water temperature workmanship or other modes of failure 2 9 If the water heater is not sized to supply the hot water demand in accordance with the guidelines in the Rheem water heater literature any resultant fault will not be covered by the Rheem warranty 3 WHAT IS COVERED BY THE RHEEM WARRANTY FOR THE WATER HEATERS DETAILED IN THIS DOCUMENT 3 1 Rheem will repair or...

Страница 6: ...ailable the date of manufacture and serial number from the rating label on the water heater b Rheem will arrange for the water heater to be tested and assessed on site c If Rheem determines that you have a valid warranty claim Rheem will repair or replace the water heater in accordance with this warranty 5 2 Any expenses incurred in the making of a claim under this warranty will be borne by you 6 ...

Страница 7: ...t touch any exposed pipe work or fittings connecting the solar storage tank and the solar collectors as this may result in a burn injury Very high temperature closed circuit fluid and in some circumstances high temperature steam can be generated by the solar collectors under certain conditions and this flows through the pipe work from the solar collectors to the solar storage tank Note Any exposed...

Страница 8: ...er Do not place articles on or against the gas booster or in contact with the flue terminal Ensure the flue terminal is not obstructed in any way at any time Do not use Propane Butane gas mixtures in a Propane model A Propane model is designed to operate on Propane only The use of Propane Butane mixture such as automotive LP gas fuel in a Propane model is unsafe and can cause damage to the gas boo...

Страница 9: ...y a qualified person in accordance with the installation instructions in compliance with the Plumbing Code of Australia PCA and Plumbing Standard AS NZS 3500 4 This water heater is designed for outdoor installation This water heater is intended to be permanently connected to the water mains and not connected by a hose set A braided flexible hose or semi flexible connector may be used for connectio...

Страница 10: ...r through an insulated copper pipe to the solar collectors to be heated by the sun s energy and then back to the heat exchanger Heat transfers from the closed circuit fluid in the heat exchanger to the water stored in the solar storage tank This process continues while solar energy is available and until the water in the solar storage tank reaches a temperature of approximately 75 C The pump is th...

Страница 11: ...70 C or higher and a remote temperature controller or an EZiSET kit is not used Warning Temperature controllers or an EZiSET kit must not be fitted to an in series gas booster as part of a solar water heater system because water at a temperature much higher than the controller setting can be delivered HOTTER WATER INCREASES THE RISK OF SCALD INJURY This water heater can deliver water at temperatur...

Страница 12: ...er off to the in series gas booster and there is a risk of freezing then it is necessary to drain the gas booster refer to Draining the Gas Booster Water Heater on page 14 TO TURN ON THE WATER HEATER Screw in the drain plugs at the cold water inlet and hot water outlet of the gas booster if the gas booster has been drained Open the cold water isolation valve fully at the inlet to the water heater ...

Страница 13: ...TER COLLECTION SYSTEM If the solar collectors and solar pipe work are installed on a section of roof which is part of a rainwater runoff collection system then it is recommended this section of roof and its gutter be isolated from the rainwater collection system The closed circuit fluid acts as an anti freeze agent and rust inhibitor is non toxic to humans and is harmless to the environment Howeve...

Страница 14: ...the water heater is switched off and there is a risk of freezing then it is necessary to drain the gas booster refer to Draining the Gas Booster Water Heater on page 14 VICTORIAN CUSTOMERS Notice to Victorian Customers from the Victorian Building Authority This water heater must be installed by a licensed person as required by the Victorian Building Act 1993 Only a licensed person will give you a ...

Страница 15: ...it has pipe work connected Measure the water temperature from the nearest hot tap to the water heater used primarily for personal hygiene purposes with a thermometer If the water temperature exceeds 50 C phone Rheem Service or their nearest Accredited Service Agent to arrange for an inspection Refer to Tempering Valve on page 16 The jacket of the gas booster can be cleaned with a soft cloth and wa...

Страница 16: ...ed with the gas booster for information regarding the recommended five 5 year service TEMPERING VALVE The water heater is fitted with a tempering valve to provide a tempered water outlet The valve is set to deliver water not exceeding 50 C The valve should be checked for performance at least every six 6 months if it has pipe work connected Refer to Minor Maintenance Every Six Months on page 15 The...

Страница 17: ...r is only covered by the Rheem warranty when the total dissolved solids TDS content in the water is less than 2500 mg L and when the correct colour coded anode is used If an incorrect colour coded anode is used in the water heater any resultant faults will not be covered by the Rheem warranty In addition the use of an incorrect colour coded anode may shorten the life of the water heater cylinder T...

Страница 18: ...nnected to the hot water supply The hydrogen which is highly flammable should be vented safely by opening a hot tap and allowing the water to flow There should be no smoking or naked flame near the tap whilst it is turned on Any hydrogen gas will be dissipated This is indicated by an unusual spurting of the water from the tap Once the water runs freely any hydrogen in the system will have been rel...

Страница 19: ...x SI 1 0 gas booster copper heat exchanger Saturation Index SI 0 4 if an expansion control valve is not fitted temperature pressure relief valve water heater cylinder Saturation Index SI 0 8 gas booster copper heat exchanger 0 4 0 8 0 very corrosive very scaling scaling corrosive 1 0 no warranty applies to a temperature pressure relief valve or a water heater cylinder unless an expansion control v...

Страница 20: ...of 5 10 seconds while the heat exchanger warms up This is both an energy and water saving feature of this water heater Once the heat exchanger has warmed up the hot water flow will increase and remain at normal flow levels This feature will only occur at a cold start up and not when the heat exchanger is already warm from a recent use of hot water NO WATER FROM THE HOT TAP No flow of water from th...

Страница 21: ...stall an additional solar collector Are you using more hot water than you think Is one outlet especially the shower using more hot water than you think Very often it is not realised the amount of hot water used particularly when showering Carefully review the family s hot water usage As you have installed an energy saving appliance energy saving should also be practised in the home Adjust your wat...

Страница 22: ...ts The water heater must be switched off at the isolating switch or switchboard Phone Rheem Service or their nearest Accredited Service Agent to arrange for an inspection PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE DISCHARGING A pressure relief valve is incorporated into the gas booster controls This valve protects the gas booster by allowing water to escape in the event of excessive pressure build up in the waterways ...

Страница 23: ...p washers and have a plumber rectify any leaking pipe work Is the gas booster operating too frequently Refer to Gas Booster Operating Too Frequently on page 21 Has there been an increase in hot water usage An increase in hot water usage may result in an increase in booster operation Has your water heating tariff rate been increased by your gas retailer since your previous bill COLLECTOR GLASS The ...

Страница 24: ... assistant duties Every care must be taken to protect and warn occupants of the building and the public from personal injury which may occur from falling tools roof materials fittings or any other hazards of a general nature Advise the occupants of any inconvenience which may occur due to disconnection of existing water and electrical supplies The connection attachment integration or general assoc...

Страница 25: ...ATION The solar storage tank is suitable for outdoor installation only The solar storage tank should be installed close to the most frequently used outlet and its position chosen with safety and service in mind Make sure people particularly children will not touch the flue terminal The flue terminal and air inlet must be clear of obstructions and shrubbery Consideration must also be given to the p...

Страница 26: ...alent horizontal distance measured diagonally from the nearest discharge point of the flue terminal to the opening may be deemed to comply Check with the local regulator The water heater can be turned through 60 either to the left or to the right with the discharge from the flue terminal discharging along the wall MAINS WATER SUPPLY Where the mains water supply pressure exceeds that shown in the t...

Страница 27: ...ome contaminated with closed circuit fluid FREEZE PROTECTION The water heater has a freeze protection system The water heater including the in series gas booster is not suitable for installation in areas where the ambient temperature falls below 20 C including wind chill factor The closed circuit fluid is an anti freeze agent which when mixed to the correct specification can withstand temperatures...

Страница 28: ...r other ablution or public area It is necessary and we recommend that a temperature limiting device be fitted between the hot water outlet of the water heater and the hot water outlets in any ablution and public areas such as a bathroom ensuite or public amenities to reduce the risk of scalding The temperature limiting device must be of a type suitable for use with both a continuous flow water hea...

Страница 29: ...outlet temperature setting is 70 C or higher If the in series water heater is a storage water heater to meet this requirement of AS 3498 its thermostat must always be set to at least 60 C Water should not be circulated from a water heater with a temperature setting of less than 60 C The return water temperature to the water heater must not be less than 55 C If the water temperature decreases by mo...

Страница 30: ...he water heater cylinder The correct colour coded anode for the water supply being used must be selected and fitted to the water heater for the Rheem warranty to apply to the water heater cylinder refer to Water Supplies on page 17 and the Anode Selection table on page 17 The black anode is typically fitted as standard If an incorrect anode is used there is also the possibility the anode may becom...

Страница 31: ...ominal Capacity 25 C rise litres min Hourly Gas Consumption MJ Min Gas Pressure kPa Test Point Gas Pressure kPa Max Gas Pressure kPa minimum maximum 874826NF J Natural 26 199 1 13 0 150 0 920 3 50 874826PF J Propane 26 199 2 75 0 190 0 980 3 50 Model numbers N Natural P Propane Letter N or P is included in the model number to denote gas type F Frost protection J Joey Grey coloured jacket e g 87482...

Страница 32: ...INSTALLATION SOLAR STORAGE TANK 32 TYPICAL INSTALLATION OUTDOOR LOCATION ...

Страница 33: ...ctor and its fittings 43 kg ROOF AREA FOR INSTALLATION Roof area required for solar collectors 3 solar collectors 3 4 m wide x 2 0 m deep Weight full up to 162 kg approx 2 solar collectors 2 3 m wide x 2 0 m deep Weight full up to 108 kg approx 1 solar collector 1 2 m wide x 2 0 m deep Weight full up to 54 kg approx In addition to this area a minimum one 1 metre clearance is recommended on all fou...

Страница 34: ...when installed with the supplied mounting system are suitable for installations with an inclination of up to 45 Where the solar collectors are installed at inclinations greater than 45 a With Pitch frame is necessary Contact Rheem or your local Rheem Solar Water Heater Distributor for details A Variable Pitch frame can be installed to increase the angle of inclination of the solar collectors used ...

Страница 35: ...mmended lengths as specified in the table Maximum recommended total combined pipe length solar hot solar cold and number of 90 bends Pipe Size 1 or 2 Collectors 3 Collectors Pipe Length 90 Bends Pipe Length 90 Bends DN15 40 metres 20 30 metres 20 For each additional 90 bend reduce the maximum total pipe length by 0 5 metres For each additional metre of pipe length reduce the number of 90 bends by ...

Страница 36: ...llectors is 9 m for this closed circuit system The pump supplied with the solar storage tank will not circulate closed circuit fluid through heights greater than 9 m and solar gain will not be achieved Note The top of the solar storage tank must be a minimum of 500 mm below the bottom of the solar collectors for the system to operate correctly Closed Circuit System Drain Back Solar 270 Litre Tank ...

Страница 37: ...r cold pipes must be where they connect to the solar collectors There MUST BE a continuous fall of a minimum 5 1 in 10 grade in the pipe work from the solar collectors to the solar storage tank for efficient and complete drain back of the closed circuit fluid to occur The system has NO WARRANTY for freeze damage if there is not a continuous fall in the solar hot and solar cold pipes or they are no...

Страница 38: ...therwise damage may result to the solar collectors The solar circuit and solar collectors are to be isolated from the solar storage tank for the duration of the pressure test SPA2000 and CSA2007 Solar Collector Installations If water is used as the pressure testing medium and if the collector circuit is not to be connected to the solar storage tank and the system commissioned on the same day then ...

Страница 39: ...ter water heater when mounting it on the 596270 model solar tank Replacing the Top Mounting Bracket To replace the top bracket 1 Remove the top mounting bracket from the gas booster water heater by removing the two screws Put the screws aside The bracket can be discarded 2 Position the new mounting bracket supplied over the two central holes and fit using the screws removed in step 1 Note the corr...

Страница 40: ... aside the screw 2 Remove the screws securing the bottom mounting bracket at the rear of the gas booster reposition the bracket across to the right but do not rotate of the gas booster as viewed from the rear face and refit the screws in the locating holes Tighten the screws 3 Refit the remaining screw to the hole to the left of the bottom mounting bracket Tighten the screw ...

Страница 41: ...dures Replacing the Top Mounting Bracket on page 39 and Relocating the Bottom Bracket on page 40 5 Mount the gas booster 3 onto the mounting bracket of the solar storage tank Refer to the procedure Mounting the Gas Booster on page 42 6 Place the washer 4 supplied inside of the fitting of the water connection plumbing assembly 5 which connects to the hot water outlet of the gas booster 3 7 Connect ...

Страница 42: ...f the bracket on the solar storage tank Slide the gas booster down so its top mounting bracket engages behind the bracket on the solar storage tank 2 The mounting hole in the bottom bracket of the gas booster 3 lines up with the mounting hole at the bottom left front of the mounting bracket on the solar storage tank Secure the booster to the tank using the M6 x 16 screw and washer 12 provided ...

Страница 43: ...es of the gas booster The front of the pipe cover fits behind the front skirt of the gas booster The top flanges of the pipe cover have holes to accommodate the screws on the underside of the gas booster This enables the pipe cover to fit snugly against the underside of the gas booster 2 Secure the pipe cover 10 to the solar storage tank with two screws 11 on each side at the top and bottom of the...

Страница 44: ...as Booster 1 Hot connection assembly 2 Cold connection assembly 3 Gas booster water heater 4 Washer 24 OD x 16 ID x 1 5 thick 5 Water connection plumbing assembly 6 Bracket support 7 Flexible hose cold inlet connection 550 mm long 8 Elbow fitting M x F Rye 2504 9 Flexible hose solar outlet connection 425 mm long 10 Pipe cover 11 Screws No 8 x 13 12 Screw M6 x 16 and washer ...

Страница 45: ...and Return System on page 29 It is necessary to remove the pipe cover if attached from underneath the gas booster by undoing the retaining screws in order to make the water and gas connections to the water heater Refit the pipe cover at the completion of the installation CONNECTION SIZES Hot water connection Rp 3 4 Cold water connection Rp 3 4 Tempered water connection Rp 3 4 Solar hot from collec...

Страница 46: ...ulated hot water flow and return system in a building The benefits of solar gain will be significantly reduced If a circulated flow and return system is required it is necessary to connect the return line to the in series booster not the solar storage tank Refer to Circulated Hot Water Flow and Return System on page 29 This water heater is intended to be permanently connected to the water mains an...

Страница 47: ...ef valve expansion control valve if one is installed and solar circuit relief valve to carry the discharge clear of the water heater Connect the drain lines to the valves using disconnection unions The drain line from the valve to the point of discharge should be as short as possible have a continuous fall all the way from the water heater to the discharge outlet and have no tap valves or other re...

Страница 48: ... cold outlet and solar hot inlet connections are located at the top of the solar storage tank Notes It is important not to cross connect the solar hot and solar cold pipes to the incorrect connections The solar cold pipe connects to the bottom of the solar collectors and the solar hot pipe connects to the top of the solar collectors on the opposite side to both the solar cold pipe connection and t...

Страница 49: ...in accordance with the Wiring Rules AS NZS 3000 and all local codes and regulatory authority requirements Warning Temperature controllers or an EZiSET kit must not be fitted to an in series gas booster as part of a solar water heater system because water at a temperature much higher than the controller setting can be delivered The solar storage tank and gas booster both require a 220 V 240 V a c 5...

Страница 50: ...ATURE SETTING The gas booster outlet temperature setting can be adjusted The adjustment procedure is detailed in the Owner s Guide and Installation Instructions supplied with the gas booster The factory preset outlet booster temperature setting is 60 C Note AS 3498 requires that a water heater provides the means to inhibit the growth of Legionella bacteria in potable water The in series gas booste...

Страница 51: ...ver is raised and lowered gently The lever should move smoothly and without undue force If the lever cannot be moved or is jerky in its movement then the valve has been damaged and must be replaced Open the gas isolation valve fully Check the gas pipe work for leaks Open the isolation valve in the pipe work between the outlet of the heat exchanger and the solar pump located behind the lower front ...

Страница 52: ...ork and closed circuit fluid has been discharged a third solar collector is installed the maximum recommended solar pipe length is exceeded Additional Equipment Additional equipment will be required for the commissioning and checking of the solar circuit This includes checking the closed circuit fluid level and conducting a drain back test The following equipment is required a 1500 mm long x 12 mm...

Страница 53: ... care must be taken so as not to be scalded by either the closed circuit fluid or the vapour escaping from the solar circuit Pre Commissioning Notes Before commencing the solar circuit commissioning procedure check the solar pipe work to ensure there is a continuous fall from the solar collectors to the solar storage tank of a minimum 5 1 in 10 grade the maximum recommended pipe length is not exce...

Страница 54: ...le The ribbon cable can be disconnected from the solar control module if it is necessary to remove the lower front cover completely from the work area in front of the solar storage tank 4 Ensure the isolation valve in the pipe work between the outlet of the heat exchanger and the solar pump located behind the lower front cover of the solar storage tank is fully open Attach Closed Circuit Fluid Lev...

Страница 55: ...ar circuit is complete to reconnect the hot sensor lead otherwise when the electrical supply is switched on the solar pump will deactivate after one hour and the solar control unit will then enter a fault mode and no solar gain will be achieved 10 Switch on the electrical supply at the power outlet to the solar storage tank Warning Take care not to enter the area inside the solar storage tank behi...

Страница 56: ...o step 4 there is no leakage from the solar circuit It is important to check all of the solar pipe work including in the roof space and on the roof If leaking rectify any leaks in the solar circuit the height from the base of the storage tank to the top of the collectors has not exceeded the maximum allowable height the length of solar hot and solar cold pipes has not exceeded the maximum recommen...

Страница 57: ...drain back completely to this level then check there is a continuous fall of a minimum 5 1 in 10 grade in the solar pipe work from the solar collectors to the solar storage tank the solar collectors have an inclination of not less than 10 refer to Solar Collector Location on page 33 the connectors on the inlet and outlet of the collectors are orientated downwards to ensure complete drain back of t...

Страница 58: ...he text marking it will be necessary to add water to the heat exchanger to top up the level of closed circuit fluid There is sufficient closed circuit fluid concentrate in the solar circuit heat exchanger such that only water needs to be added to the system if it is required to top up the level of closed circuit fluid Note The dynamic level of the closed circuit fluid upon the completion of commis...

Страница 59: ...ked on the side of the solar storage tank in step 8 It would be necessary to add one litre of water to the heat exchanger E g If the dynamic level is 180 mm above the text marking then place a mark at least 30 mm but no more than 180 mm below the static level marked on the side of the solar storage tank It would be necessary to drain between one litre and five litres of closed circuit fluid from t...

Страница 60: ...cuit fluid from the heat exchanger if required To drain closed circuit fluid If not already removed disconnect the drain line and remove the spring clip from the solar circuit relief valve at the top of the solar storage tank and remove the valve refer to step 6 Warning The solar circuit may be under pressure Take care when removing the solar circuit relief valve as a sudden discharge of pressuris...

Страница 61: ...k the solar pipe work and collector unions for leaks whilst the pump is operating and the solar circuit is at its working pressure It is important to check all of the solar pipe work including in the roof space and on the roof 25 If the procedure to check the solar pipe work for leaks is not complete before the pump has automatically turned off then switch off the electrical supply at the power ou...

Страница 62: ...rmless to the environment However it is good practice to recover any excess closed circuit fluid and remove from site for appropriate disposal Completing the Commissioning of the Solar Circuit 30 Reconnect the hot sensor lead to the connecting plug located on the tab in the upper front cover opening It is important to reconnect the hot sensor lead otherwise when the electrical supply is switched o...

Страница 63: ...hed 4 x red Top three tank thermistors open or short circuit 5 x green Tank at maximum temperature 5 x red Sensor strip plugged into incorrect port on printed circuit board PCB no green remains off Call for service 6 x red No heating fluid flow through collectors Notes Warning The removal of the lower front cover will expose 240 V wiring Switch off the electrical supply at the power outlet to the ...

Страница 64: ...ressure section of the Installation Instructions and Owner s Guide supplied with the gas booster BURNER GAS PRESSURE It is necessary to check the burner gas pressure at both the minimum and maximum operational settings It is necessary to have the electrical supply to the water heater switched on the hot water must be flowing and the burners on to check and if necessary adjust the operational gas p...

Страница 65: ...A flow rate of at least four 4 L min is recommended Using a thermometer measure the temperature of the water from the tap until the temperature stops increasing Allow at least one 1 minute to ensure the mixed water temperature has settled If the water temperature is below 50 C the maximum outlet temperature of the 50 C limited outlet can be adjusted upwards Remove the cap from the tempering valve ...

Страница 66: ... Exercise care as water discharged from the solar storage tank may be of a very high temperature To drain the storage tank Turn off the water heater refer to To Turn Off The Water Heater on page 64 Close all hot water taps Operate the relief valve lever do not let the lever snap back or you will damage the valve seat It is very important the lever is raised and lowered gently Operating the lever w...

Страница 67: ...a 12 mm diameter clear hose to the heat exchanger drain valve hose tail connection refer to step 5 of Attach Closed Circuit Fluid Level Hose on page 54 Disconnect the drain line from the solar circuit relief valve at the top of the solar storage tank Remove the spring clip from the solar circuit relief valve and remove the valve Warning The solar circuit may be under pressure Take care when removi...

Страница 68: ...Revision Date 2020 October 122594A 68 ...

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